>> THIS PROGRAM IS MADE BY MPT TO ENRICH THE DIVERSE COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT OUR STATE AND IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF OUR MEMBERS.

THANK YOU.

>> CONNECTING MARYLANDERS.

TO THEIR GOVERNMENT.

THIS IS "STATE CIRCLE."

>> Jeff: GOOD EVENING.

AND WELCOME TO "STATE CIRCLE."

COMING UP THIS WEEK WE'LL MEET THE INCARCERATES FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL.

PLUS, PRESERVING A SLICE OF EASTERN SHORE HISTORY.

BLUT BUT FIRST TONIGHT, UNONE DEBATE IS ABOUT HOUR AND THE MARYLAND GOVERNORSHIP ON THE LINE.

CANDIDATES WES MOORE AND DAN COX FLASHED IN 3479 EAST STUDIOS THIS WEEK.

HERE ARE SOME HIGHLIGHTS.

>> I AM THE ONLY INDIVIDUAL RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR WITH EXPERIENCE, WITH THE OPPORTUNITY WHO HAS SERVED IN GOVERNMENT, AND WHO WHOSE STOOD WITH GOVERNOR HOGAN EAST POLICY TO LOWER TAXES, LOWER CRIME, WHILE MY OPPONENT INSTEAD HAS ON SALON.COM HAS CLAIMED HE WANTS TO DEFUND THE POLICE.

THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US.

IT'S A STARK DIFFERENCE.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REASON HE WON'T DEBATE IT'S BECAUSE HE'S A PHONEY.

THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS IN HIS BOOK THAT ARE COMPLETELY FALSE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOOK, HE CLAIMS HE WASTE RAISED IN BALTIMORE CITY, BUT, SIR, YOU WENT THERE UNTIL YOU WERE 34.

>> GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND.

>> THANK YOU.

WE'RE WATCHING A PERFECT INDICATION AS TO WHY GOVERNOR HOLDEN HOGAN CALLED UNFIT TO LEAD.

WE'RE WATCHING A PERRY PERFECT INDICATION OF WHY GOVERNOR HOGAN SAID NOT ONLY WILL I NOT SUPPORT GOVERNOR COX I WON'T GIVE HIM A TOUR OF THE GOVERNOR'S POST OFFICE FRANK LIME STANDING ON STAGE WITH AN EXTREMIST ELECTION DENIER WHOSE RHETORIC AND WHOSE POLICIES ARE NOT JUST DANGER AND DIVISIVE BUT WILL TAKE OUR STATE BACKWARDS, AND THE INTENTION THAT I HAVE IN THIS CAMPAIGN IS HAVE A AN INTENTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT MARYLANDERS CARE ABOUT LIKE ENSURING WE HAVE A 21st CENTURY EDUCATION SYSTEM FOR ALL OF OUR CHILDREN, ENSURING THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE-1 ENSURING WE HAVE A ECONOMY THAT GROWS, AND BENEFIT EVERYBODY INSTEAD OF DELVING INTO CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT MY OPPONENT CONTINUES.

TO THROW OUT.

>> ALL I EVER WANT FOR MY CHILDREN IS FOR THEM TO BE SEEN.

AND FOR THEM TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING HEARD.

AND I WANT THE SAME THING FOR EVERY CHILD.

AND SO THERE'S A STAT THAT ALWAYS DOES STICK WITH ME AS WELL.

IT'S LOOKING AT THE ACCELERATED YOUTH HOMELESSNESS RATE FOR LGBTQ YOUTH.

IN OUR STATE.

IT'S LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT TRANS CHILDREN OR TRANS INDIVIDUALS, 80% OF TRANS INDIVIDUALS HAVE CONTEMPLATED SUICIDE.

I WANT TO SAY TO ALL OF OUR LGBTQ YOUTH AND FAMILIES, I SEE YOU, AND I HEAR YOU, AND ALL POLICIES THAT WILL BE MADE WILL BE MADE IN PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE THAT IS HOW WE HAVE TO LEAD AS A STATE IN PARTNERSHIP.

>> GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU.

>> IF I MAY RESPOND BRIEFLY.

SO I HAVE CHILDREN ALSO.

AS YOU KNOW, I'M VERY BLESSED, MY WIFE AND I, AND WE BELIEVE AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN ANY CHILD IS STRUGGLING, AS MY OPPONENT IDENTIFIED, YOU CANNOT CUT THE PARENT OUT OF THAT DISCUSSION, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT MY OPPONENT PLANS TO DO BECAUSE THAT'S THE POLICY RIGHT NOW UNDER THIS NEW APPROACH THAT I HAVE OPPOSED, AND THAT'S WRONG.

SURE PARENTS ARE INVOLVED, TO- MAKE SURE THAT WHEN I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH MY SON OR DAUGHTER, THAT THEY KNOW DAD IS ALWAYS IN THE MIX FOR THEM.

>> MR. COX, YOUR ANSWER.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD TO TRACY.

>> I'M SORRY.

CAN I PLEASE JUST SAY ONE THING.

I AM VERY INVOLVED IN MY CHILDREN'S EDUCATION.

AND I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THEIR EDUCATION.

DO YOU KNOW WHO ELSE CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THEIR EDUCATION?

THEIR EDUCATORS.

BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME GOAL.

IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT MY CHILDREN ARE PREPARED FOR THE WORLD THAT THEY ARE GOING TO INHERIT, AND WE WANT THE SAME THING FOR ALL OF OUR CHILDREN.

AND EDUCATOR PARTICIPATION IS NOT INDOCTRINATION.

THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN PARENTS AND EDUCATORS.

>> Jeff: THE FULL DEBATE CAN BE SEEN ONLINE AT VIDEO.MPT.TV.

WHO WON?

WELL, WE PUT THAT QUESTION TO THE RUNNING MATES ON BOTH TICKETS STARTING WITH DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR ARUNA MILLER.

>> Aruna Miller: I THINK THE CONTRAST COULDN'T BE STRONGER, BUT IF YOU ASK ME WHO WON THE DEBATE, OF COURSE, MY RUNNING MATE WAS MORE -- WON THE DEBATE.

WES MOORE DEM STRATD A VISION FOR MARYLAND, AN UPLIFTING, BOLD AND INCLUSIVE FUTURE WHERE WE LEAVE NO ONE BEHIND.

WE SAW A LEADER WHO WANTS TO TAKE MARYLAND FORWARD WITH AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS FOR ALL, TO PROVIDE A WORLD CLASS PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR ALL ITS CHILDREN, AND HE WAS UNE EQUIVOCAL ABOUT THAT WOMEN SHOULD HAVE A TON ME OVER THEIR OWN BODIES, AND WE WILL PROTECT ACCESS TO ABORTION.

AUTONOMY.

>> Jeff: YOU SERVED IN THE HOUSE OF DELEGATES.

TELL US ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND AND QUALIFICATIONS TO BE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND POTENTIALLY SERVE AS GOVERNOR AT SOME POINT.

>> Aruna Miller: SURE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, JEFF.

SO MY BACKGROUND, AGAIN, IS PROFESSIONALLY AS A TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER, SO I WORKED FOR THE LOCAL MONTGOMERY COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR OVER 25 YEARS WHERE I WAS INVOLVED THE IN PLANNING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, FROM ROADWAYS TO TRANSIT TO BICYCLE FACILITIES TO SIDEWALKS, MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, WE REPRESENTED ALL THE USERS OF OUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.

AND THEN I ALSO HAD THE GREAT PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS THE MARYLAND STATE DELEGATE FOR EIGHT YEARS BETWEEN 2010 UNTIL 2018.

>> Jeff: YOUR SERVICE IN THE LEGISLATURE CERTAINLY POINTS TO A POTENTIAL ROLE THAT YOU COULD PLAY IN A MORE ADMINISTRATION, A MOORE-MILLER ADMINISTRATION IF YOU'RE FORTUNATE TO BE ELECTED.

CURIOUS IF YOU HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

BECAUSE HISTORICALLY LIEUTENANT GOVERNORS IN MARYLAND, IT'S BEEN ALL OVER THE MAP.

SOME HAVE BEEN REALLY INFLUENTIAL, SOME HAVE FRANKLY BEEN COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.

>> Aruna Miller: SO YOU WOULD LIKE MY THOUGHT ON THAT?

>> Jeff: ABSOLUTELY.

YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE I EVER, DO YOU?

>> Aruna Miller: NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT, JEFF.

YOU'RE TALKING TO HOPEFULLY, IF THE VOTERS DECIDE WES MOORE AND I ARE THE NEXT TO LEAD THIS STATE, YOU'RE GOING TO TO HAVE A LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR THAT IS INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THINGS THAT SHAPE AND MAKE THE STATE OF MARYLAND, AND WES MOORE AND I ARE FULL PARTNERS IN THIS ENDEAVOR, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK TOGETHER TO COME TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITIES, TO LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS, AND COME UP WITH THE SOLUTIONS BECAUSE THEY BEST KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE OUT THERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO THOSE SOLUTIONS AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT THEM.

SO I CAN ASSURE YOU I'M NOT GOING TO BE IRRELEVANT BECAUSE I HAVE A RESPONDENT, NUMBER ONE -- RESPONSIBILITY, NUMBER ONE, TO BE ELECTED AT THIS VERY HUMBLING ROLE, AND NUMBER TWO, AS, YOU KNOW, YOU IMMEDIATELY BECOME AN AMBASSADOR TO ALL WOMEN, YOU BECOME AN AMBASSADOR TO PEOPLE OF COLOR, TO IMMIGRANTS, TO ENGINEERS, AND SO I HAVE A GREAT RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M LIVING UP TO THE HOPES AND DREAMS OF ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS MARYLANDERS.

>> Jeff: YOU MENTIONED YOUR BACKGROUND AS A TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER.

IN THE DEBATE MR. MOORE WAS CLEAR ABOUT WANTING TO BUILD THE LIGHT RAIL LINE THROUGH THE BALTIMORE REGION.

HE WAS FRANKLY A LITTLE BIT FUZZILY ON THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TOLL LANE PROPOSAL FROM THE HOGAN ADMINISTRATION FOR SOME BIG HIGHWAYS THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TO YOUR FORMER DISTRICT.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?

>> Aruna Miller: SURE.

LOOK, ONE THING, JEFF, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION IS PROVIDES SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST MOVING PEOPLE, RIGHT?

IT'S VITAL TO OUR ECONOMIC HEALTH, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, EQUITY, ENVIRONMENT, QUALITY OF LIFE, AND IT ARE OFTEN LIFTS PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY AS WELL.

AND IT'S GOT TO BE COMPREHENSIVE.

AND I THINK I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER.

IT'S ABOUT BUILDING ROADWAYS, TRANSIT FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, BIKEWAYS, SIDEWALKS, SO MUCH MORE THAT ALLOW THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO TAKE PART AND BE ABLE TO CONNECT, WHETHER IT'S TO THEIR JOBS, WHETHER IT'S THEN JUST GOING TO SCHOOLS OR GOING TO PARKS.

SO IT PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN OUR LIVES.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, THERE'S NO DOUBT THE I-274-95 PROJECT, AS PROPOSED BY GOVERNOR HOGAN, HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF FROAFERS, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT, CONTROVERSY, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT BECAUSE LITTLE COLLABORATION WAS PRESERVED BETWEEN THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS AND THE STATE DELEGATION, AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN ALL THAT TRANSPARENT ABOUT THEIR PLANS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE MOORE-MILLER ADMINISTRATION WILL PARTNER AND COLLABORATE WITH THE STATE DELEGATION, LOCAL LEADERS, AND ENGAGE OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES FOR ANY LARGE SCALE PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS.

AND ANOTHER REASON WHY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONTROVERSY I THINK IS THE P3 PROCESS, AS CURRENTLY PRESENTED, IT'S GOT A LOT OF FLAWS IN IT AND THERE'S MINIMAL PUBLIC OVERSIGHT.

WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT P3 PROCUREMENT PROCESS PLAY OUT IN THE PURPLE LINE, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PURPLE LINE HAS BEEN DELAYED.

THERE'S COST OVERRUNS.

SO CLEARLY WHEN YOU HAVE A P3 PROCESS THAT'S NOT WORKING AND THEN YOU WANT TO TRANSFER TO EVEN A BIGGER SCALE PROJECT, WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT.

AND NOT TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ANY P3 AGREEMENTS BENEFIT WORKERS AND THEY'RE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF MARYLAND'S INTERESTS.

AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS COMMUNITY PROPERTY.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HANDING OVER COMMUNITY PROPERTY TO A PRIVATE ENTITY FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS, I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY THOUGHTFUL IN OUR APPROACH ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG I-270.

>> Jeff: OUR CHAIRCHTION THANKS TO DELEGATE MILLER.

NOW THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR GLOMPLE, GORDANA SCHIFFNELLI.

>> Gordana Schifanelli: WHAT STOOD OUT TO ME BETWEEN THE TWO MEN WAS THAT DAN COX WAS THE FIRST ONE TO APPROACH WES MOORE, SHAKE HIS HAND, AND WES MOORE WAS KIND OF MORE, YOU KNOW, RESERVED ON THE OTHER SIDE, AS I COULD SEE.

HE WASN'T MUCH UP FRONT.

AND THAT MAY BE BECAUSE HE'S NOT A POLITICS OR HE'S NOT IN POLITICS.

THIS IS HIS FIRST RODEO, AS IT IS FOR ME.

BUT WES MOORE'S OPENING AND CLOSING REMARKS REVOLVED AROUND ABORTION AS A PRIME AND KEY ISSUE FOR MARYLANDERS.

SO FOR THOSE THAT BELIEVE THAT ABORTION IS THE KEY ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY WES MOORE WOULD PICK THEIR VOTE.

FOR ME ABORTION IS NOT THE NUMBER ON ISSUE FOR MARYLANDERS BECAUSE I'M ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL PERSONALLY, I I TALK TO PEOPLE, AND FOR EVERYBODY THERE IS KEY ISSUES THAT DAN COX TOUCHED UPON THROUGH HIS ACRONYM SAFE WEEKS, S STANDING FOR SAFETY, A STANDING FOR AFFORDABILITY, WHICH EVERYBODY ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT PRICES, EVERYBODY ARE VERY HURT BY INFLATION, THEN F STANDS FOR FREEDOM.

DAN COX TOUCHED UPONLY MEDICAL FREEDOM AGAINST GOVERNMENT MANDATES OF ANY KIND, WHETHER MSKS OR VENES.

AND I CAN BE VACCINES, AND I WOULD ADD THAT F, FREEDOM SHOULD STAND FOR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH AGAINST MEDIA CENSORSHIP.

AND THEN E STANDS FOR EDUCATION.

THE VOTERS ARE VERY MUCH UPSET ABOUT MARYLAND'S HEALTH CURRICULUM THAT WAS PUSHED ON PUBLIC SCHOOLCHILDREN.

PARENTS ARE UP IN ARMS.

MOMS FOR LIBERTY ARE ATTENDING EVERY MEETING THAT I ATTEND, THAT GO.

THEY'RE VERY VOCAL.

THOSE ARE THE ISSUES FOR MARYLANDERS AS OPPOSED TO WES MOORE'S NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER LAST OPENING AND CLOSING STATEMENT BEING ABORTION AS HE DEFINE IT THAT ABORTION IS SELF-CARE.

SO THOSE TWO MEN, IN MY OPINION, HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT VIEW OF WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR HD MARYLAND AND THE THE VOTERS WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHICH ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY CANNOT BE FAR, FAR APART ON THAT.

>> Jeff: WELL,, MR. COX DID SAY THAT HE IS PROF PRO-LIFE.

HISTORICAL NECESSITY MARYLAND PRO-LIFE CANDIDATES DON'T DO VERY WELL STATEWIDE, AND IN THE ROE V. WADE ERA, THE ONLY PERSON WHO I CAN THINK OF WHO WAS PRO-LIFE WHO WON WHO WON WAS LARRY HOGAN AND IT WAS A TIME WHEN PEOPLE WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

THERE WAS A WASHINGTON POST POLL THAT FOUND, I THINK, 70-SOME PERCENT SUPPORT FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO PUT ABORTION RIGHTS INTO THE STATE CONSTITUTION.

THIS IS A BLUE STATE.

WITH THAT SORT OF SUPPORT FOR ABORTION RIGHTS, DOES A PRO-LIFE CANDIDATE HAVE ANY CHANCE?

>> Gordana Schifanelli: SO THAT IS A GREAT AND VALID POINT, AND MY OPINION ON THIS IS WE ARE IN A VERY DIFFERENT STATE RIGHT NOW.

COX STATED, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WES MOORE SHOULD HAVE PICKED UP ON, THAT MARYLAND LEGISLATURE, SO AFTER REPEALING ROE V. WADE, MARYLAND -- THE SPEAKER PASSED THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ISSUES LIKE ABORTION TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS A SEPARATE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT, AND DELEGATE COX IS AWARE OF THAT, AND HE SAID AS A GOVERNOR THERE IS NOT MUCH I CAN DO.

IT'S ON THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

AND HE QUOTED, I BELIEVE HE SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT MARYLAND HAS THE MOST LIBERAL PRO-ABORTION LAWS.

AS A GOVERNOR, WHETHER HE LIKES IT OR NOT, WHETHER HE'S PRO-LIFE OR PRO-CHOICE, WE WILL HAVE TO UPHOLD THE LAW BECAUSE THAT IS THE ROLE OF THE GOVERNOR.

HE CANNOT BE MAKING LAWS AS THE GOVERNOR.

HE DID MENTION DURING THE DEBATE THAT HE AUTHORED THE DOWN SYNDROME PROTECTION ACT WHICH HIS YOUNGEST SON HAS DOWN SYNDROME, THE BABY.

HE WAS IN THE STUDIO WITH US.

AND HAVING COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IS SOMETHING THAT MARYLANDERS NEED TO RESPECT AND KNOW.

THIS IS A CANDIDATE WHO HAS A PERSONAL VIEWS ON GOD, PRO-LIFE, RESPECT FOR LIFE, BUT THAT ASIDE, HE IS A GOVERNOR FOR ALL MARYLANDERS, AND WHATEVER THE LEGISLATURE COMES UP WITH, HIS DUTY IS TO UPHOLD.

SO THE PERSONAL OPINION -- THAT IS AS AN ATTORNEY I COULD SEE THE VERY CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN THAT TOO.

>> Jeff: BEFORE I RUN OUT OF TIME, I SHOULD ASK ABOUT YOUR QUSKTH TO SERVE AS -- QUALIFICATIONS TO SERVE AS LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IF YOU ARE ELECTED AND POTENTIALLY SERVE AT GOVERNOR AT SOME POINT.

>> Gordana Schifanelli: SO I AM AN ECONOMIST.

I HAVE A GRAUD DEGREE IN ECONOMICS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF BELGRADE SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS.

THAT IS FORMER YUGOSLAVIA THAT NO LONGER EXISTS.

I'M AN IMMIGRANT.

AND I BELIEV THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THE REPUBLICAN TICKET HAS A IMMIGRANT AS A A RUNNING LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.

I AM ALSO A MARYLAND ATTORNEY.

I AM VERY INVOLVED WITH MARYLAND ATTORNEY COMMUNITY, AND I'M SO PROUD TO UPHOLD MARYLAND LAWS AND THE CONSTITUTION.

WHEN I PLEDGED MY ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THAT'S BEHIND MY BACK HERE, I WAS 33 YEARS OLD, AND WHEN I PLEDGED THAT ALLEGIANCE TO THIS COUNTRY, I TOOK THAT OATH SERIOUSLY.

SO AS SOMEONE WHO IS VERY MUCH INDEPENDENT, SUPPORTING MR. COX, HIS ECONOMIC POLICIES TO LOWER TAXES, UPHOLDING THE LAWS, EVEN THE ONES HE OR I MAY NOT AGREE WITH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MARYLANDERS SHOULD PUT AT EASE THAT WE ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THE RULE OF LAW, AND WHATEVER THE LEGISLATURE DOES, WE WILL FOLLOW FAITHFULLY.

I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOUR VIEWERS THAT THERE WAS AN INTERESTING TO TALK ABOUT CRIME IN BALTIMORE, AND AS I WAS SITTING FRANTICALLY TAKING NOTES OF THE DEBATE, IT REMINDED ME THAT THE LAST TIME WE HAD AN ATTORNEY GENERAL REPUBLICAN IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND WAS IN THE LAST 100 YEARS.

SO A CENTURY AGO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DID NOT HAVE AN ATTORNEY GENERAL, WHICH WOULD BE THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE TO UPHOLD THE -- LIMIT THAT WE LIVE IN SAFE COMMUNITIES, AND WE ARE IN DIRE NEED FOR THE SAFETY IN THE STATE, ESPECIALLY BALTIMORE CITY.

>> Jeff: REPUBLICAN PARTY IS PLAINLY DIVIDED.

GOVERNOR HOGAN HAS DISASSOCIATED HIMSELF FROM YOUR CAMPAIGN.

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO?

IN WHAT WAYS ARE YOU TRYING TO BRIDGE THAT DIVIDE?

>> Gordana Schifanelli: SO WHAT I AM ALWAYS REMINDED IS, AGAIN, SOMEONE WHO CAME FROM A DIFFERENT WORLD AND EDUCATED IN A DIFFERENT MANNER, HAVING THE ABILITY TO SEPARATE YOURSELF BETWEEN THE PERSON AND THE ISSUES IS A KEY FOR MARYLAND VOTERS.

GOVERNOR HOGAN MAY NOT LIKE DAN COX.

DAN COX NIGHT LIKE GOVERNOR HOGAN.

GOVERNOR HOGAN MAY NOT LIKE DONALD TRUMP.

DONALD TRUMP MAY NOT LIKE -- YOU KNOW, THESE ARE PEOPLE.

THESE ARE PEOPLE.

THESE ARE PERSONALITIES.

BUT WHAT DAN COX WAS ABLE TO ARTICULATE TO THE VIEWERS YESTERDAY OR DURING THE DEBATE WAS THAT HE AGREES WITH GOVERNOR HOGAN'S POLICIES, AND THAT IS TRYING TO KEEP THE TAX RATE MANAGEABLE.

>> Jeff: WE THANKS HZ SCHIFF NELLY.

NOW, MPT'S NANCY YAMADA CAUGHT UP THIS WEEK WITH THE CANDIDATES FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL.

>> I BELIEVE THAT THE VIOLENCE HE'S THAT'S ON THE STREETS REALLY IS A RESULT OF AND VERY DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE VOYAGES THAT'S HAPPENING AT THE CONSTITUTION, THE STEAFTD GOVERNMENT.

>> Nancy: REPUBLICAN MICHAEL PEROUTKA SAID HIS DECISION TO RUN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS PROMPTED BY THE GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO THE PANDEMIC.

>> Penny Abernathy: A HEALTH CRISIS AND IT'S IN AIR QUOTES, A HEALTH PRIZES IS UTHE AS NOT THE BASIS OF AN EXCUSE TO DENY MARYLAND TERRACE EXERCISE OF THEIR GOD-GIVEN AND CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHTS, INCLUDING THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, TO MOVE ABOUT FREELY, TO ASSEMBLE, TO WORSHIP, TO RUN THEIR OWN BUSINESSES WITHOUT INTERRUPTION.

>> Nancy: THE RETIRED LAWYER AND FORMER MEMBER OF ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY COUNCIL SAID IF ELECTED AS ATTORNEY GENERAL HE WOULD DEFEND THE LIRVETSZ MARYLAND RESIDENTS.

>> Michael Peroutka: I WILL DEFEND LIFE.

I WILL DEFEND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS.

ALSO, I BELIEVE ELECTION INTEGRITY IS ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT.

THE IF WE DON'T HAVE BORDERS.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A FAIR AND OPEN AND TREARNTSZ ELECTIONS, THEN AGAIN -- TRANS PARENTS ELECTIONS, THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE SOVEREIGNTY THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.

>> Anthony Brown: THE SIMPLEST ANSWER FOR WHY I'M RUNNING FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL IS I WANT TO MAKE A BIGGER IMPACT IN THE PROFESSION THAT I SHOWS ERL L. CHOSE NEARLY A QUARTER CENTURY AND THAT'S SERVICE.

>> Nancy: THREE-TIME CONGRESSMAN ANTHONY BROWN SAID IF ELECTED HE WILL FOCUS TO BUILDINGS TO THE PROGRESS OF CURRENT AG BRIAN FROSH.

HIS PRIORITIES INCLUDE ENFORCING LABOR STANDARDS WITH CIVIL RITES AND STEMMING VIOLENT CRIME.

>> Anthony Brown: WE'RE NOT GOING TO INVESTIGATE, PROSECUTE AND INCARCERATE OUR WAY TO SAFER NEIGHBORHOODS IF CAREER WE ARE 23409 REFORMING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, INCLUDING THE JUVENILE ADJUST SYSTEM.

MARYLAND INCARCERATES YOUNG BLACK MEN AT A HIGHER RATE THAN ANY STATE IN THE NATION, AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE CRIME ON THE RISE.

>> Nancy: WHILE CONGRESSMAN BROWN WANTS TO PROMOTE POLICIES TO TAKE MORE GUNS OFF THE STREETS DID,.

>> Anthony Brown: THAT'S YEA WAS IN ANNAPOLIS LAST SESSION TESTIFYING IN SUPPORTIVE BAN ON GHOST GUNS.

WE NOW WILL HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE SUPREME COURT DECISION THAT ALTARS MARYLAND'S LAWLY CONCEAL CARRY.

>> Nancy: PEROUTKA BELIEVES GOING AFTER GUNS ISN'T THE ANSWER.

>> Michael Peroutka: WIVES CRIME COMING FROM AND EMANATING FROM AND BEING PROMOTED BY, WHEN WE HAVE CASHLESS BAIL SITUATIONS AND PEOPLE ARE LET OUT OF JAIME AS SOON AS THEY'RE D. JAIL AS SOON AS THEY'RE ARRESTED, THEN YOU HAVE CORRUPT GOVERNMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY PROMOTING CRIMINAL BAIFORT ON STREETS.

>> Nancy: AS FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S ROLE IN PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT AND CEASING CLIMATE CHANGE.

>> Penny Abernathy: I THINK H. >> Michael Peroutka: I THINK WE ASMS A NEED AND DESIRE TO STEWARD THE ENVIRONMENT BUT THAT QUESTION IS ASKED OF ME SOMETIMES, I ASK BACK, WHAT IS CLIMATE CHANGE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS OTHER THAN THESE LOOF DEFINITIONS OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

>> Anthony Brown: WE HAVE A ENVIRONMENTAL CRIME AND THAT GOES AFTER THOSE WHO ILLEGALLY DISCHARGE POLLUTANTS INTO THE AIR OR WATER, ILLEGAL DUMPING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL I BELIEVE SHOULD HAVE THAT WE CURRENTLY DID NOT HAVE THE HAVE IS THE AUTHORITY TO BRING INDEPENDENT ENVIRONMENTAL LAW, ENVIRONMENTAL VIOLATION FORM CASES.

RIGHT NOW YOU WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT, WITH THE DEPARTENT OF AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SHOULD BE ABLE TO BRING THOSE INDEPENDENT ACTIONS.

>> Nancy: AND WHILE THE POLLS MAY NOT BE FAVORABLE TO PEROUTKA, HE WANTS VOTERS TO CONSIDER THIS.

>> Michael Peroutka: WHO'S 100 YEARS OF DEMOCRATIC ATTORNEY GENERAL WORKING FOR YOU?

WITH THE CRIME AND THE CROSS CHAOS AND THE DISSENSION AND CHAOS THAT'S WHO THE STREETS THAT WE SPEND THIS TIME TALKING ABOUT, WE COULD PROBABLY SPEND A COUPLE MORE HOURS TALKING ABOUT.

WITH ALL OF THAT I WOULD ASK HOW IS THAT WORKING FOR YOU?

>> Nancy: I'M NANCY YAMADA.

>> Jeff: ON THE EASTERN SHORE A JOINT EFFORT IS UNDERWAY TO PRESERVE AND SHARE A SMALL TALBOT COUNTY TOWNS' AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND ITS MARITIME TRADITIONS.

OUR SUE KOPEN HAS THE STORY.

>> POISON IVEY.

>> Ian Edwards: >> Sue: DENNIS AND MICHAEL ARE PART OF A TEAM WORKING TO DOCUMENT AND PRESERVE WHAT THEY CAN OF THE TOWN OF BELLEVUE'S PAST FORT FUTURE.

>> WE THINK THIS WAS BITTEL PROBABLY SOME TIME PROBABLY BETWEEN 1890, 1910, IN THAT RANGE.

YEAH, THIS IS ONE OF THE OLDER HOUSES IN TOWN.

>> Sue: THANKS TO A GRANT FROM THE MELLON FOUNDATION, WASHINGTON COLLEGE PROFESSOR IN A FIELD STUDY, AN IDEAL FIT IN HIS EXPERTISE IN AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND THE MARITIME INDUSTRY.

HE WAS JOIN BY STUDENTS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY AND BEYOND.

>> I KNEW ABOUT THE SEAFOOD INDUSTRIES OF THE CHESAPEAKE.

I KNEW THE BOATS.

I KNEW THE BUILDINGS.

I KNEW ABOUT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN THAT DIGS HERE.

-- TRADITION.

I DIDN'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF BELLEVUE.

>> Sue: AND THE NOTEVATION RIDDEN THE BEHIND THE RESEARCH?

RETIRED DOCTOR DENNIS DESHIELDS.

>> I'M ACTUALLY A FOURTH GENERATION RESIDENT OF BELLEVUE, AND THE CONNECTION STARTED WITH MY GREAT GREAT-GRANDFATHER WHO WAS A WATERMAN, AND THIS WAS A TIME WHEN BELLEVUE WAS PRETTY MUCH SELF-STEANL AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY SIENCHTS THE DESHIELDS' GOAL, THE OPENING OF THE BELLEVUE MUSEUM TO TELL THE TOWN STORY.

HIS INSPIRATION, HIS FATHER.

>> MY FATHER HAS ALWAYS BEEN BIG OH PRESERVING HISTORY, AND THERE WAS I TIME IN WHICH, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT JUST RECENTLY I'VE COME TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING THE HISTORY OF BELLEVUE.

>> Sue: THE PATH TO EXREAGHT THE MUSEUM BUT ONE SQUARE MILE TOWN THAT SITS CRUZE FROM OXFORD GOT UNDERWAY ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO WITH SOME KEY COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

>> I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET DR. PAY KERR AND HER HUSBAND PHILLIP LOGAN WHO IS AN ARCHITECT, AND HE -- THEY STARTED TALKING AND SHOE SHE KIND OF SAW -- SHE KNEW ABOUT MY FATHER'S PASSION, BUT WE SHE ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT HE WAS GETTING OLDER AND TO THAT HIS ENERGY LEVEL WAS NOT LIKE IT WAS EARLIER, AND WE JUST DECIDED THAT WHAT CAN WE DO TO KIND OF PRESERVE PART OF THE BELLEVUE HISTORY.

>> Sue: SO FAR THEY HAVE RAISED AROUND $800,000 FOR THE MUSEUM'S CAPITAL CAMPAIGN FROM GRANTS AND DONATIONS.

AS FOR THE BUILDING WELL, THEY HAVE THAT TOO.

IT WAS HOME TO A BELLEVUE RESTAURANT, NOW LONG GONE.

>> MY FATHER, HE, AGAIN, HE PUT THE FOUNDATION AND LAID THE CINDER BLOCK AND PAID OUT HIS OWN MONEY TO HAVE THE BUILDING MOVED OVER HERE.

>> Sue: BUT THE BUILDING WILL BE ON THE MOVE AGAIN, EVENTUALLY RELOCATE TO THE TOWN'S PARK RIGHT ON THE PATH OF THE VISITORS STEAK FROM THE HISTORIC OXFORD BELLEVUE FERRY.

WHAT'S MORE, THE BELLEVUE PASSAGE MUSEUM WILL BE TEEMING UP WITH ANOTHER RECENTLY OPENED MUSEUM OF IN OXFORD DEDICATED THE TO FOUNDING BLACK FAMILIES OF MARYLAND.

>> WE DO HAVE AFFILIATION WITH THE WATER'S EDGE MUSEUM.

AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FORMING A BOARD WHICH WILL CONSOLIDATE THE TWO, THE TWO MUSEUMS TOGETHER.

>> Sue: AND HELP WITH MEETING THE GOAL OF TELLING BELLEVUE'S STORY ON TO BOTH THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE.

>> I SEE THIS AS A PLACE OF EMPOWERMENT, OF PEOPLE OF BELLEVUE THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DECIDE TO GO INTO, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THIS IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN GET KNOWLEDGE, ENCOURAGEMENT, AND SO THAT YOU'RE MOTIVATED TO DO SOMETHING MORE.

>> Sue: THE HOPE IS THE DOORS TO THE MUSEUM WILL OPEN EARLY NEXT YEAR.

IN BELLEVUE, I'M SUE KOPEN FOR "STATE CIRCLE."

>> Jeff: THANKS, SUE.

AND THANK YOU FOR WATCHING "STATE CIRCLE."

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

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