>>> NOW, GAZANS ARE FACING A DESPERATE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS WITH FOOD SHELVES STILL EMPTY AND FAMILIES STRUGGLING TO FEED THEMSELVES.

THOUSANDS WERE SEEN SURROUNDING TO AID TRUCKS IN NORTHERN GAZA LAST MONTH AS CRUCIAL FOOD DELIVERIES REMAIN IN HINDERED BY-LIMITED SAFE ACCESS INTO THE STRIP.

ACCORDING TO THE WORLD FOOD PROGRAM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CINDY MCCAIN, THE TERRITORY IS REACHING A TIPPING POINT.

SHE SPEAKS TO WALTER ISAACSON ABOUT THE DARK SITUATION IN CONFLICT ZONES AND WHY FOOD INSECURITY IS A GLOBAL CONCERN.

>> THANK YOU, BIANNA.

AND CINDY MCCAIN, WELCOME BACK TO THE SHOW.

>> MY PLEASURE.

THANK YOU.

>> SECRETARY OF STATE TONY BLINKEN, JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, WAS IN THE WORLD FOOD PROGRAMME WAREHOUSE IN JORDAN, TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT WHAT YOU'RE ALL IN HELPING GAZA.

TELL ME ABOUT THE SITUATION THERE?

>> OH, GOSH.

IN ALL THE YEARS, MOST OF THE VERY SENIOR PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR ME HAVE BEEN DOING THIS, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING QUITE LIKE THIS.

GAZA IS ON THE BRINK OF FAMINE.

THE THINGS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR WITH REGARDS TO THE WFP AND FEEDING PEOPLE ARE SAFE ACCESS SO THAT WE CAN GET THE TRUCKS IN, AND THE ABILITY TO BE THE CONFLICTED SO THAT WE CAN WORK SAFELY ON THE GROUND THERE.

IT'S A MESS.

AND MORE IMPORTANT, MORE IMPORTANTLY IN THIS, UNTIL WE GET MORE AND MORE ACCESS, THAT MEANS MORE GATES, MORE ROUTES IN THE COUNTRY IN A FASTER AND BETTER WAIT, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO FEED PEOPLE.

>> SECRETARY OF STATE BLINKEN, AS I SAID, WAS JUST AT ONE OF THE WAREHOUSES IN JORDAN.

AND THEN, HE WENT TO VISIT ISRAEL, VISIT PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU.

HAS HE BEEN HELPING YOU TO PUSH FOR ACCESS?

>> YES.

SECRETARY BLINKEN HAS BEEN WONDERFUL.

HE'S BEEN HELPING, YOU KNOW, CARRYING ON OUR MESSAGE AND THE MESSAGE OF OTHERS AS WELL.

AND THE IMPORTANCE OF WHY IT'S NECESSARY THAT WE GET IN, AGAIN, WE ARE TRYING TO STAVE OFF FAMINE IN GAZA.

AND UNLESS WE CAN GET IN THERE AND BEGIN TO FEED IN A LARGE MANNER AND IN A WAY THAT CAN NOT JUST IN THE SHELTERS BUT IN COMMUNITIES AROUND, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUSHED INTO.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SAVE LIVES.

WE HAVE LITTLE CHILDREN NOW THAT ARE REALLY STARVING TO DEATH.

AND WE HAVE FAMILIES THAT ARE DESPERATE.

YOU HEAR ABOUT THE TRUCKS BEING GRADED, OR YOU HEAR ABOUT THE DISRUPTION, THE UNREST THAT'S GOING ON.

PEOPLE ARE DESPERATE.

AS YOU KNOW, YOU WILL DO EVERYTHING TO FEED YOUR FAMILY.

AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT, THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET IN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FEED PEOPLE.

>> THE CHIEF ECONOMIST OF THE WORLD FOOD PROGRAMME SAID THAT OF THAT 2.2 MILLION PEOPLE IN GAZA NOW, THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE OF FAMINE, THAT THERE IS A FOOD INSECURITY CRISIS GOING ON.

EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THAT MEANS?

>> WELL, I WILL PUT IT -- TAKE IT DOWN TO VERY SIMPLE TONES HERE.

THERE'S A FAMILY, LET'S SAY, OF EIGHT PEOPLE.

AND SIX OF THOSE ARE KIDS.

WELL, THE PARENTS ARE NOT GONNA FEED THEMSELVES IF THEIR ONLY OPTION IS TO FEED THEIR CHILDREN.

THEY'RE MAKING HARD CHOICES ABOUT WHO AND HOW TO FEED, HOW MUCH TO FEED.

AND SO, JUST ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO GET FOOD IN, JUST FROM A BOTTOM LINE STANDPOINT.

THESE ARE THE KINDS OF SITUATIONS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE UP AGAINST RIGHT NOW.

AND THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE AT WFP ARE TRYING DESPERATELY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HELP, NOT JUST IN THE SHORT TERM, BUT IN THE LONG TERM ALSO.

>> HOW MUCH FOOD IS GETTING INTO GAZA?

AND IS THERE ENOUGH FOOD IF YOU CAN JUST GET THE ENTRY INTO THE TRUCKS INTO GAZA?

>> YES.

THERE IS ENOUGH ACCESS TO FOOD.

WE ARE BEGINNING TO PUT A SIZEABLE AMOUNT TOGETHER.

WE'VE ALREADY STARTED IT.

IT'S NOT COMPLETE YET.

BUT THAT AMOUNT OF FOOD, WHEN WE DO PUT THIS IN PLACE, IT CAN FEED GOSSIP FOR THREE MONTHS, THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF GAZA.

SO, THAT'S WHY THE ACCESS THINK IS SO IMPORTANT.

IF YOU CAN GET IN THERE IN A MAJOR WAY TO NOT JUST FEED BUT MAKE SURE THAT THAT FOOD IS, FIRST EMERGENCY FOOD, AND THEN FOOD THAT IS SUBSISTENT FOR A LONG TERM.

RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GETTING OUT EMERGENCY RATIONS.

AND WE NEED TO DO MUCH MORE ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUNG CHILDREN.

AS YOU KNOW, UNICEF HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS A GREAT DEAL AND THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE HAVING WITH VERY YOUNG CHILDREN AS A RESULT OF IT.

>> THE HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH HAS ACCUSED ISRAEL OF USING STARVATION AS A WEAPON OF WAR.

IS THAT TRUE?

>> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS DEAL WITH WHAT WE KNOW AND WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ON THE GROUND AND AS WE NEED TO GET IN AND FEED.

THE IMPORTANT PART OF ALL OF THIS IS MAKING SURE THAT THE WORLD UNDERSTANDS THE DESPERATION THAT'S INVOLVED HERE.

AND SO, I WOULD LEAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS FOR OUR POLITICIANS AND FOR THE U.N.

HIERARCHY.

BUT WHAT I NEED RIGHT NOW IS SAFE ACCESS AND THE ABILITY TO GET IN AND FEED.

>> THERE ARE MORE THAN 300 MILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD WHO FACE STARVATION, FOOD CRISES.

WHAT'S THE CAUSE OF THAT?

IS IT A LACK OF FOOD?

OR IS IT THE LACK OF THE ABILITY TO GET FOOD TO THE RIGHT PLACE?

>> IT'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS, AND I WILL START WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.

LARGE PORTIONS OF AFRICA ARE IN THIS KIND OF FOOD DESPERATION BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND CLIMATE CHANGE HAS BEEN A DISASTER AND I WILL SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE SAHEL RIGHT NOW.

WITH THE LACK OF RAIN, THE LACK OF ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PLANT AND GROW CROPS, PEOPLE ARE STARVING TO DEATH.

AND SO, IT'S UP TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE OURS TO GET IN, AGAIN, AND FEED THEM.

THIS SITUATION WORLDWIDE IS DESPERATE.

WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT A FEW COUNTRIES, WE ARE LOOKING AT MANY COUNTRIES THAT DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADEQUATELY FEED THEIR POPULATIONS.

AND THAT IS WHERE WFP COMES INTO PLAY.

>> I WAS READING THE WFP WEBSITE WHICH, JUST AS ALL OF OUR VIEWERS DO, AND BESIDES CLIMATE CHANGE, IT SAYS THE BIGGEST DRIVER'S CONFLICT.

TELL ME ABOUT THAT.

>> WELL, CONFLICTS, THEY HAVE CAUSED A GREAT DEAL OF THIS.

AND I WILL SPEAK NOW TO SUDAN, ESPECIALLY, BECAUSE AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE OF WHAT HAS OCCURRED IN SUDAN, BUT AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE REFUGEE FLOW HAS BEEN ASTRONOMICAL.

GOING INTO CHAD, ETHIOPIA, AND OTHER COUNTRIES WITHIN THE REGION.

AND WE'VE HAD TO MAKE SOME VERY TOUGH DECISIONS, THE WFP, I, MEAN THEY HAVE HAD TO MAKE SOME VERY TOUGH DECISIONS BECAUSE THERE IS NO FUNDING.

AND SO, I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH IN MY OWN MIND, TAKING FOOD FROM THE HUNGRY TO GIVE TO THE STARVING.

AND THAT'S A DECISION THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE ALMOST EVERY OTHER DAY.

IN PLACES LIKE CHAD, LIKE HAITI, LIKE THE DRC CONGO, LIKE SOMALIA, REGIONS LIKE THAT, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

WE HAVE HAD PLENTY OF FUNDING SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY NOW.

SOME HAVING TO MAKE SOME VERY SERIOUS TOUGH DECISIONS.

>> TELL ME ABOUT WHO'S GETTING CUT BECAUSE OF THESE DECISIONS.

>> WELL, WE ARE SHORTENING RATIONS.

IN SOME AREAS, WE USED TO GIVE RATIONS THAT WOULD LAST YEAR.

NOW, WE ARE REDUCING IT TO SIX MONTHS.

AND NOW, WE'VE REDUCED IT, IN SOME CASES, 20.

IN AFGHANISTAN, IT'S A GOOD DESCRIPTION OF THAT.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO FEED EVERYONE.

WE ARE HAVING TO CUT PEOPLE FROM THE ROLES AND ACCESS TO FOOD.

I HAVE BEEN STANDING IN A LINE WITH A WOMAN, I WAS IN SOUTH SUDAN, AND I WATCH, SHE WAS PREGNANT, AND I WATCHED THE GENTLEMAN BEHIND THE DESK SAY, YOUR RATIONS ARE UP.

I CAN'T GIVE YOU ANY MORE.

I MEAN, SHE WAS PREGNANT, SHE HAD TWO YOUNG CHILDREN.

THESE ARE THE KINDS OF DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE THOSE.

YOU KNOW, I CONTINUE TO RAISE THE FLAG AROUND THE WORLD ABOUT THE DESPERATION, THE IMPORTANCE OF WHY WE NEED TO FEED AND BE IN THEIR, AND WHY WE NEED THE MONEY TO DO IT.

>> THE WFP FACES A 15 BILLION DOLLAR SHORTFALL THIS COMMON HERE.

WHY DO THEY FACE SUCH A SHORTFALL OF FUNDING?

>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF COUNTRIES, I SHOULD SAY, THEY ARE WEARY.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN CRISIS AFTER CRISIS AFTER CRISIS, AND THEIR OWN CONSTITUENTS ARE SAYING, ENOUGH.

LET'S PAY ATTENTION TO OUR OWN HOME.

AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT'S STILL, IT DOESN'T MAKE THESE STARVING PEOPLE GO AWAY.

THESE THINGS JUST DON'T DISAPPEAR.

SO, I DO THE VERY BEST I CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO DO THIS.

BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT GONNA FEED THEM NOW, CONFLICT IS GOING TO TAKE OVER.

THE BAD GUYS ARE GONNA ROLL AND.

AND THEN, WE'VE GOT AN EVEN BIGGER PROBLEM.

SO, THAT'S WHY I CONTINUE TO DO, HOPEFULLY, TESTIFY IN FRONT OF CONGRESS, SPEAK TO.

I'M GOING TO DAVOS THIS COMING WEEKEND TO TALK ABOUT THIS CRISIS WORLDWIDE AND WHY WE NEED TO BE EXTRA DILIGENT ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE EVEN MORE.

>> YOU'VE JUST MADE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN FEEDING PEOPLE AND NATIONAL SECURITY.

IT'S UP TO YOU TALK QUITE A BIT.

EXPLAIN WHY THIS ISN'T JUST A HUMANITARIAN ISSUE BUT A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE?

>> WELL, IT IS.

I MEAN, I WILL TALK ABOUT A PLACE LIKE SOMALIA, OR I WILL TALK ABOUT A PLACE, AGAIN, LIKE THE SAHEL, AND SOME OF THE OTHER REGIONS IN THERE.

WITHOUT ADEQUATE FOOD, PEOPLE WILL, AS I SAID, THEY'LL DO ANYTHING.

AND IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE BAD GUYS TO ROLL IN.

AND THAT BECOMES A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.

THAT'S A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS SEEING AS WELL.

SO, I APPEAL TO MY OWN GOVERNMENT AND THE GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE WORLD TO LOOK AT IT FROM A NATIONAL SECURITY PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IF WE DON'T FEED THEM, THE BAD GUYS ARE GONNA GET RIGHT IN AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO FEED THEM.

>> HOW IS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE FOOD INSECURITY AND FOOD PROBLEMS?

IS IT GIVING AWAY FOOD?

OR IS THERE A DEEPER SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM?

>> WELL, WE HAVE TO PROCESS THE ROOT CAUSE OF IT.

YOU DON'T, IS IT CLIMATE CHANGE?

IS IT CONFLICT WHEN?

IS IT, YOU KNOW, THE COST, COST IS A BIG DELIVERER AND IT IS AS WELL.

WE NEED TO GET AT THE ROOT CAUSES.

TEACHING PEOPLE, NOT JUST TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO FARM, BUT GIVING THEM THE TOOLS AND THE WATER TO DO SO.

IN MANY CASES, IT COMES DOWN TO WATER.

SO, AND I THINK FROM A WORLDWIDE STANDPOINT, I REALLY TALK A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THIS WHEN I'M OUT AND ABOUT BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE ROOT CAUSES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THEM.

ASIDE FROM JUST GIVING FOOD, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY NEED TO BE SELF SUFFICIENT.

>> WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING TO DO THAT, SO IT'S JUST NOT A FOOD GIVEAWAY PROGRAM?

IN FACT, SOME WOULD ARGUE THAT FOOD GIVEAWAYS COULD BE HARMFUL IN THE LONG RUN?

TELL ME WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO FACE THAT.

>> AGAIN, WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD.

AND I WILL USE, CENTRAL AMERICA, THE DRY ZONE, AS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS.

AS I SAID, WE ARE GIVING PEOPLE THE TOOLS.

SO, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE LAND TO FARM ON, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO SEED AND TO WATER, MOST IMPORTANTLY, AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY CAN GET THEM TO THE MARKET.

AND SO, IT'S A MATTER OF JUST SUPPORTING AND GIVING THEM THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO IT THEMSELVES.

NO ONE WANTS TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES.

NO ONE WANTS TO NOT BE ABLE TO FEED THEIR FAMILY.

SO, FOR US, TO BE ABLE TO PUT PROGRAMS IN PLACE, TO BE ABLE TO DO JUST THAT, IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AROUND THE WORLD.

AND ALSO, I THINK, A THING THAT WE CALL CASH-BASED TRANSFERS, IT GIVES PEOPLE THE ABILITY, WOMEN PARTICULARLY, BECAUSE IT EMPOWERS WOMEN, THE ABILITY TO BUY IN THE LOCAL MARKET RATHER THAN US GIVING FOOD TO THEM, WE GIVE THEM A CASH BASED TRANSFER SO THAT THEY CAN BUY IN THE LOCAL MARKET.

THAT HELPS EVERYONE.

IT HELPS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

SO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND THAT THE WFP ACTUALLY STARTED AND NOW IT'S BECOME KIND OF A WORLDWIDE TOOL.

>> UKRAINE USED TO BE REFERRED TO AS THE BREAD BASKET, A BREAD BASKET OF THE WORLD.

TELL ME WHAT THE WAR IN UKRAINE HAS DONE TO EXACERBATE THIS ISSUE?

>> YES, YOUR DESCRIPTION IS EXACTLY CORRECT.

IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE INABILITY, IN SOME CASES, AND A MUCH SMALLER ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO GET GRAIN OUT, IT'S REALLY HAMPERED HOW WE FEED, AND I WILL USE MADAGASCAR AS A GOOD EXAMPLE, AND OTHER REGIONS OF AFRICA WHERE WE CAN BRING GRAIN OUT BY SHIP AND BE ABLE TO REPLENISH IT AND DO WHAT WE DO, WHAT THE WFP DOES WITH IT.

AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT WITH YOUR QUAINT.

WE'VE GOTTEN SOME GRAIN OUT, BUT NOT ENOUGH OUT, NOT TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE.

SO UKRAINE SITUATION HAS BEEN DAMAGING IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

BUT FROM A FOOD STANDPOINT, IT'S BEEN DEVASTATING.

SO, WE'VE HAD TO, OTHER SUPPLIERS, OTHER SUPPLIERS OF A GRAIN, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SOURCE IT.

IT'S MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE.

THAT COST US MONEY, WHICH MEANS, YOU KNOW, IT'S LATER GETTING TO WHERE IT SHOULD GO, AND OF COURSE, THE EXPENSE IS UNBELIEVABLE.

>> THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY HAS SAID THAT IT REALLY WANTS TO END HUNGER AND MALNUTRITION BY 2030.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

HOW COULD THAT BE DONE?

>> WELL, I WILL WORK WITH ANY, ANYBODY THAT CAN OFFER SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I REALLY WILL.

IT MEANS THAT WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER, THAT WE CAN NO LONGER -- THIS ISN'T A PROBLEM THAT IS ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S DOORSTEP.

THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS ON OUR OWN DOORSTEP AND WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH HUNGER.

AND IT DOES EVERYBODY GOOD.

WHEN PEOPLE ARE EATING, THEY'RE CALM.

THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR TROUBLE.

THEY DON'T BECOME A -- RECRUITED BY THESE GUYS THAT COME THROUGH WITH THESE NEFARIOUS CHARACTERS THAT COME THROUGH.

IT HELPS ALL OF US.

AND SO, WHENEVER I SPEAK TO GROUPS, OR COUNTRIES, OR HEADS OF STATE, I SAY, LISTEN, YOU NEED TO BE IN THIS BECAUSE THIS WILL AFFECT YOU, WHETHER IT'S NOW OR NOT, IT WILL AFFECT YOU.

AND SO, JUST REMINDING THE WORLD, REMINDING OUR WORLD LEADERS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS.

AND THAT SOUNDS VERY LOFTY, HOW TO GET THE WORLD TO WORK TOGETHER?

WE CAN'T SEEM TO DO ANYTHING TOGETHER.

BUT I THINK THE ARENA OF FOOD, WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.

WE HAVE TO.

>> THIS JOB AT THE WORLD FOOD PROGRAMME, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN UKRAINE, NOW WE LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN GAZA, AROUND THE WORLD, IT'S GOTTA BE GRUELING.

I MEAN, IT'S REALLY TOUGH.

YOU ARE BASED IN ROME.

YOU ARE TRAVELING TO PLACES LIKE SOMALIA AND SEEING IT.

WHAT DRIVES YOU TO DO THIS?

WHAT KEEPS YOU GOING?

>> YOU KNOW, I CAN HONESTLY TELL YOU, I CONSIDER MYSELF A HUMANITARIAN, AND I HAVE BEEN MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE.

AND WHAT DRIVES ME IS I KNOW THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.

I KNOW THAT WE CAN HELP.

AND SO, WHAT DRIVES ME ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I SEE.

AND I MENTIONED THAT GIRL THAT WAS PREGNANT WITH THE TWO KIDS.

THAT'S WHAT DRIVES ME, IT IS OUR ABILITY AS AN ORGANIZATION, AND AS A WORLD, TO WORK TOGETHER TO FEED PEOPLE IN DESPERATE SITUATIONS.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT DRIVES ME.

WHAT KEEPS ME AWAKE IS NOT BEING ABLE TO FEED THEM.

YOU TALK ABOUT THE STRESS OF A JOB, THAT'S WHAT KEEPS ME AWAKE AND WHAT, TO ME, IS THE MOST GRUESOME THING THAT I FACE, IT'S NOT BEING ABLE TO FEED PEOPLE.

AND SO, IT IS TWOFOLD.

IT HELPS ME CONTINUE ON.

IT ALSO BREAKS MY HEART.

>> CINDY MCCAIN, THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.

>> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.