>> THE NEW JIM CROW OR ENSURING ELECTION INTEGRITY?

A BUDGET LIKE NO OTHER IN NEW YORK STATE AND WHAT'S BEHIND RECENT ATTACKS ON ASIAN AMERICANS?

STAY TUNED.

"IVORY TOWER" IS NEXT.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO "IVORY TOWER."

I'M DAVID CHANATRY FROM UTICA COLLEGE.

I'M JOINED BY THIS WEEK'S PANELISTS KRISTI ANDERSON FROM THE MAXWELL SCHOOL AT SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY, JAMILA JAMILA MICHENER FROM CORNELL UNIVERSITY, LUKE PERRY FROM UTICA COLLEGE AND TARA ROSS FROM ONONDAGA COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR GEORGIA'S NEW CORONAVIRUS LAW.

BIDEN CALLED THE LAW JIM CROW IN THE 21st CENTURY.

REPUBLICANS SAY THE LAW IS ABOUT ELECTION INTEGRITY.

MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL AND SEVERAL BIG CORPORATIONS HAVE BEEN DRAWN INTO THIS FRAY.

KRISTI, THE LAW ANTI-DEMOCRATIC OR ARE THE DEMOCRATS, INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT, OVERREACTING TO THE LIMITATIONS ON ACCESS TO THE BALLOT?

GLTD LAW IS ANTI- >> THE LAW IS ANTI-DEMOCRATIC.

THE REPUBLICANS SAY IT IS TO PROTECT ELECTION INTEGRITY.

BUT THEY WANT TO REASSURE PEOPLE THAT ELECTIONS ARE ACTUALLY RUN WELL AND NOT ALLOWING FOR ANY FRAUD.

BUT THEY HAVE RAISED THE ISSUE OF FRAUD.

THEY'RE THE ONES WHO HAVE PLANTED IN PEOPLE'S MINDS THAT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WAS RIGGED.

AND REALLY, THEY'RE BEING QUITE OPEN ABOUT THIS.

THERE IS A LEGISLATOR IN ARIZONA, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO TALKS ABOUT WE HAVE TO DO THIS BECAUSE WHILE EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF VOTES, THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE VOTING.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY GETS US RIGHT BACK TO JIM CROW AND LITERACY TESTS, IT SEEMS TO ME.

THEY HAVE MADE IT HARDER TO VOTE, SPECIFICALLY IN GEORGIA.

THERE ARE, I THINK, IN THE ATLANTA AREA, THERE WAS IN THE 2020 ELECTION SOMETHING LIKE 95 DROP BOXES WHERE COULD YOU DROP OFF ABSENTEE BALLOTS.

NOW THERE WILL BE 23.

YOU CAN'T-- THIS YEAR IN-- LAST YEAR IN THE RUNOFFS, YOU COULD DROP OFF ABSENTEE BALLOTS 24 HOURS A DAY.

NOW IT'S ONLY BUSINESS HOURS.

I MEAN THERE ARE MANY, MANY, AND , YES, THERE CAN BE EARLY VOTING ON SUNDAYS, BUT BY OPTION OF COUNTY.

>> TARA.

>> ABSOLUTELY THIS IS AN EFFORT TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF VOTERS.

AND ONE OF THE MOST TELLING THINGS, THERE WAS A 2018 PU RESEARCH POLL WHERE 48% OF REPUBLICANS SUPPORTED MAKING VOTING LAWS EASIER.

NOW ONLY 28% WANT TO MAKE VOTING LAWS EASIER.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2018 AND 2020?

BASE BASICALLY THE REPUBLICANS WERE IN CHARGE OF THE WHITE HOUSE THEY HAD CONTROL.

2020 THEY LOST CONTROL.

SO IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THIS IS DESIGNED TO ENSURE THAT THIS LARGE GET OUT THE VOTE EFFORT IS BASICALLY LIMITED BY COMING UP WITH ALL OF THESE RULES.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS KRISTI MENTIONED, THEY HAVE ELIMINATED ALL BUT ELIMINATED, EXCUSE ME, SUNDAY VOTING.

THERE WILL ONLY BE TWO SUNDAYS YOU CAN VOTE EARLY WHICH GETS AT THE BASICALLY SOULS TO THE POLLS EFFORT.

THERE WILL BE ONE EARLY VOTING SATURDAY.

THEY REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU HAVE TO REQUEST AN ABSENTEE BALLOT.

SO EVERY COMPONENT OF THIS LAW VERY CLEARLY GETS AT EFFORTS THAT WERE SUCCESSFUL TO GET VOTERS OUT AND TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE IN GEORGIA.

>> SO YOU SAID EVERY COMPONENT OF THE LAW.

BUT SOME OF THE COMPONENTS, CERTAINLY THE GEORGIA, THE GOVERNOR WOULD SAY, JAMILA, SOME OF THESE COMPONENTS INCREASE VOTING HOURS, EARLIER, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO THE ELECTION DAY.

>> SO, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE THING.

IT'S A 98-PAGE LAW, RIGHT?

SO IT'S HARD TO SAY EVERY COMPONENT X OR Y.

RIGHT?

WE REALLY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE LAW OVERALL AND EVEN SOME OF THE COMPONENTS THAT SAY WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS MORE EASIER IN THIS WAY, MOST OF THEM ARE TARGETED TOWARDS SPECIFIC PLACES.

RURAL COUNTIES OR LESS POPULOUS COUNTIES.

WHICH MEANS WHAT.

IT IS HARD TO IMPLEMENTED PLEMENT POPULOUS COUNTIES WHERE YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR, MORE PEOPLE VOTING DEMOCRAT.

SO PART OF THE REASON FOR MAKING THE LAW SO COMPLEX AND SO MULTIFACETED IS TO GIVE REPUBLICANS AN IN.

YOU SAY PICK OUT THIS ONE LITTLE PIECE AND SAY THIS IS GOES TO MAKE VOTING EASY BUT THERE ARE 20 OTHER PIECES THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE IT HARD, AND HARD IN A TARGETED WAY FOR PRECISELY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT VOTING FOR US.

BUT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MAKE IT EASIER TO GIVE US COVER.

THAT DOESN'T CUT IT.

IF WE GO BACK TO FIRST PRINCIPLES HERE AND WE THINK ABOUT THE BASICS.

WHAT ARE THE BASICS?

THE BASICS ARE THAT THERE IS NO VOTER FRAUD ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY.

THIS IS A SOLUTION WITHOUT A PROBLEM.

THERE IS NO REASON TO HAVE A LAW LIKE THIS.

2: WE ACTUALLY HAVE LOW VOTER TURNOUT IN THIS COUNTRY.

WE NEED TO BE MAKING LAWS TO HELP EXPAND THE ELECTORATE, NOT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T COMMITTING FRAUD OR TO KEEP MAKING IT HARDER OR ONLY THE RIGHT PEOPLE THAT ARE FIT ARE VOTING.

IT'S THE OPPOSITE.

AND THEN WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT CONTEXT WHERE THERE ISN'T REALLY FRAUD BUT THERE IS LOW TURNOUT, HAVING THIS LAW WITH SUBSTANTIAL PARTS OF IT MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE AND FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE TO VOTE, IT DOESN'T FLY, ESPECIALLY WE CAN'T THINK ABOUT THIS AHISTORICALLY ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT LIKE OURS IN THE U.S.

THIS GOES WAY FURTHER BACK THAN JIM CROW, FROM THE FOUNDING WE HAVE BEEN SUPPRESSING THE VOTE AND SUP SUPPRESSING THE VOTE TO SPECIFIC PEOPLE, RIGHT?

BLACK PEOPLE COULDN'T VOTE.

WOMEN COULDN'T VOTE.

AND IMMIGRANTS, YOU KNOW BACK AND FORTH IN TERMS OF STATE AND LOCAL ELECTIONS, WHETHER IMMIGRANTS CAN VOTE.

WE HAVE BEEN ON A SEESAW FOR ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY AND THE WAY THE SEESAW WORKS IS THAT WHEN THINGS I DON'T LIKE HAPPEN AS FAR AS PARTISAN POLITICS, IN THE NEXT-- BEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE, I TRY TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR THE PEOPLE I DON'T WANT TO VOTE AGAINST ME TO VOTE.

AND IT'S NOT RIGHT AND THIS IS A REFLECTION OF THAT LONG STANDING PATTERN.

>> LUKE, ONE PROWTION THAT HAS GOTTEN PEOPLE ATTENTION IS GIVING PEOPLE FOOD AND DRINK IN LINE.

IT OVERLOOKED ONE OF THE MAJOR PROVISIONS, WHICH IS THAT THE GEORGIA SECRETARY OF STATE IS NO LONGER ON THE ELECTION COMMISSION.

>> THEY SAID YOU DON'T WANT A SECRETARY OF STATE RUNNING FOR STATEWIDE OFFICE AND BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING THAT ELECTION.

THAT'S THE REJOINDER.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LEGISLATURE'S ABILITY TO REPLACE COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS.

THERE IS A HIGH BAR FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT THAT IS NOT A GOOD THING.

THE POLITICS OF THIS THAT STRIKES ME IS THAT REPORT ERTS WHO ARE COVERING THE STORY TALK TO LEGISLATORS PRIVATELY AND THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THEY DON'T THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH ELECTORAL ADMINISTRATION IN GEORGIA.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE RHETORIC COMING FROM THE NATIONAL LEVEL AND PRESIDENT TRUMP, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO SHOW TO THEIR PARTY MEMBERS THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING.

IT IS A REFLECTION OF THE REVERBERATION OF THE 2020 ELECTION AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL AND WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, IS THIS GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE?

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ANALYSTS THAT HAVE SAID THAT IT'S, THAT HAVE LOOKED AT VOTER I.D.

LAWS AND SAID THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE REALLY NOT HAD MUCH OF AN EFFECT ON REGISTRATION LEVELS.

>> WELL, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WRITTEN OR SUGGESTED THAT THIS WILL STOP SOME REPUBLICAN GROUPS FROM VOTING, TOO.

THERE IS NOT MUCH EVIDENCE THAT -- OR THERE ISN'T EVIDENCE YET OF WHO IT WILL MAKE IT MORE HARD FOR TO VOTE.

SO THE REPUBLICANS MAY BE DOING THEMSELVES IN IN SOME SENSE, FOR EXAMPLE, MAKE CAN IT MORE DIFFICULT TO GET ABSENTEE BALLOTS BECAUSE REPUBLICAN HIGH INCOME PEOPLE ARE THOSE PEOPLE WHO TEND TO VOTE ABSENTEE MORE OFTEN.

>> BUT ALSO THE RESEARCH ON VOTER I.D.

AND DISENFRANCHISEMENT THAT SHOWS THOSE THINGS HAVE SMALL MARGINAL EFFECTS, SOMETIMES THE LAWS DON'T HAVE HUGE EFFECT IS BECAUSE THEY MOBILIZE PEOPLE TO WORK REALLY HARD AT THEM.

PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

>> GEORGIA IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT, YEAH.

>> I HEARD THIS MORNING AS I WAS DRIVING IN ON THE RADIO, I CAUGHT A BRIEF CLIP OF STACY ABRAMS SUGGESTING THAT SOME OF THE CORPORATE RESPONSE TO THE LAW IS NOT HELPFUL; THAT THE COMMUNITIES THAT IT WILL HURT ARE THE SAME ONES THAT THE LAW, IN HER VIEW, IS TARGETING.

ANYBODY HAVE A THOUGHT ABOUT THE CORPORATE RESPONSE HERE?

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I WAS HAPPY TO HEAR HER SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AND SHE-- IT WAS A VERY NUANCED RESPONSE BECAUSE SHE MADE IT VERY CLEAR SHE APPRECIATED THAT THE CORPORATIONS WERE, YOU KNOW, TAKING A STAND AND SAYING THAT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN GEORGIA WAS WRONG, BUT SHE IS CORRECT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL AND WHO WOULD BE WORKING, YOU KNOW, THE CONCESSIONS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AT THE ALL STAR GAME AND THAT SORT OF THING, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY PEOPLE WHO DESPERATELY NEED THOSE JOBS, AND YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WHO ARE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH I.D.

OR GETTING TO THE POLLING PLACES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO IT WAS A VERY NUANCED RESPONSE.

AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE CORPORATIONS ARE SAYING SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE AT THE BOYCOTT LEVEL YET.

>> HERE IN NEW YORK STATE, THE SAUSAGE HAS BEEN MADE.

WE HAVE A STATE BUDGET AND IT'S AS DUEY.

$$212 BILLION.

EYE LOT FOR MOROCCO.

10% MORE THAN LAST YEAR AMONG THE NOTE BOTHER WORTHY ITEMS.

A TAX INCREASE ON MILLIONAIRES.

APPROVAL OF MOBILE SPORTS BETTING AND COVID RELIEF FUND FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS.

NEW YORK'S PROGRESSIVES LIKE THE DEAL AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THIS PANEL THINKS, LUKE.

ONE THING I LIKE IS THE INCREASED SPENDING ON EDUCATION.

RISE OF $3 BILLION.

HALF OF WHICH GOES TO FOUNDATION AID WHICH IS A HORRIBLY COMPLICATED BROKEN FORMULA WHERE SEVERAL DISTRICTS HAVE TO RAISE TAXES TO PAY FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF SERVICES.

IT'S NICE TO SEE AN INCREASED COMMITMENT TO A FUNDING THAT TROUBLED PROCESS.

ONE CON FOR ME IS HOW THE OVER RELIEVE PIEMENTS, UNFOLDED, IT WAS AN UGLY BACK AND FORDS AMONG DEMOCRATS ON THIS ISSUE THAT CAN PROVIDE UP TO $15,000 NO ONE-TIME PAYMENTS TO UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS, CERTAINLY THESE PEOPLE NEED BASIC SERVICES TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE DURING THE PANDEMIC, BUT I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE DEBATE WHETHER THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.

ONE MIXED REACTION HAS TO DO WITH ONLINE SPORTS BETTING.

I OVERALL THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR NEW YORK TO GET IN LINE WITH OTHER STATES, BUT I HAVE CONCERNS HERE LOCALLY ABOUT THE UNITED INDIANIAN NATION WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN FOR GAME-- ONEIDA PEOPLE, ONEIDA COUNTIES ARE GETTING $20 MILLION A YEAR AS A RESULT OF THESE REVENUES.

SO, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE AS IT UNFOLD.

>> JAMILA.

A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT STAND OUT TO ME ABOUT THE BUDGET THAT ARE SUPER IMPORTANT, OVER $2 BILLION IN AID FOR RENTERS.

THAT'S HUGE.

RENTERS, PEOPLE WHO RENT IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING.

THIS IS ESPECIALLY AN AQUT PROBLEM IN THE UNITED STATES.

THERE IS ANY EVICTION PROBLEM.

IT HAS BEEN HEIGHTENED NOW.

AND THERE IS A HUGE PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE IN A PANDEMIC WHERE THEIR INCOME HAS BEEN INAFFECTED.

SO SIGNIFICANT RELIEF UP TO 12 MONTHS OF PAST DUE RENT AND UTILITIES, PEOPLE CAN GET RESOURCES FOR.

THREE MONTHS OF RENT INTO THE FUTURE AND EVEN SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO SUPPORT PUBLIC HOUSING.

IN NEW YORK CITY IT IS EASY TO OVERLOOK.

TWO OF THE THINGS I WOULD POINT OUT IS LIKE THERE IS A LOT IN THIS BILL IN THE BUDGET FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT'S GOING TO LEAD TO JOB CREATION SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE CONSIDERING LIKE THE KIND OF THE STATUS OF THINGS ECONOMICALLY AND FINALLY THERE IS SOME IN THERE, NOT JUST FOR EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES WHICH LOOK LUKE AND I AGREE ARE IMPORTANT IS CHILD CARE.

ANOTHER FEATURE, ESPECIALLY FOR PARENTS OF YOUNG CHILDREN THAT IS GOING TO PROVIDE A HUGE RELIEF.

SO THE BUDGET ISN'T PERFECT, NO BUDGET IS PERFECT BUT BUDGETED ARE MORAL DOCUMENTS ABOUT WHO MATTERS AND THIS BUDGET SHOWS SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOOD.

>> THE BUDGET ALSO IN THE PROCESS SHOWS SOME THINGS ABOUT QOAM ANDREW CUOMO OWE'S DECLINING POWER AS WELL BECAUSE HE, A COUPLE THINGS, A MINOR THING BUT I LIKE IT, HE HAD SUGGESTED CUTTING THE LIBRARY FUNDING IN NEW YORK AND THE LEGISLATURE PUSHED BACK AND RESTORED THAT FUNDING.

A BIGGER THING IS THAT HE HAS RESISTED FOR YEARS THAT SO CALLED MILLIONAIRES' TAX OR RAISING TAXES ON THE TOP 2% OF THE POPULATION.

AND.

>> AND LUKE MENTIONED THE MONEY FOR HIGHER EDUCATION.

THE OTHER THING I WAS THRILLED TO SEE IS THAT IT INCREASES TAP, WHICH, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS ARE UTILIZING FOR COLLEGE AND DESPERATELY NEED AND INCREASES THAT BY $500 AND I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT IT RESTORES AID TO SUNY AND CUNY SCHOOLS THAT THIS BEEN CUT OR HADN'T BEEN PROVIDED.

BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES STAYED OPEN, THEY REALLY SUFFERED BECAUSE OF THE LOWER ENROLLMENTS DURING THE PANDEMIC.

THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS THRILLED TO SEE IS THAT THERE IS ASSISTANCE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE REALLY TAKEN A HIT DURING THE PANDEMIC.

AND MANY OF THEM DID NOT BENEFIT IN THE WAYS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE FROM THE FEDERAL STIMULUS AND AID THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO SMALL BUSINESSES.

SO IT MADE ME VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT NEW YORK STATE IS PROVIDING SOME.

>> SO WHEN YOU ARE THROWING $ 212 BILLION AROUND, A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN BE MADE HAPPY.

LET'S MOVE ALONG.

RECENTLY WE HAVE SEEN A SHARP INCREASE IN A TAX AGAINST ASIAN AMERICANS AND PACIFIC ISLANDERS AS WELL AS OTHER COUNTS OF VERBAL ABUSE AND HARASSMENT.

THE REPORTING OF THESE SEEM TO COINCIDE WITH THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC.

THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON HERE?

IS COVID JUST A RATIONALE TO EXPLAIN SOME ANGER OR ENVY THAT IS ALREADY SIMMERING.

>> ANTI-ASIAN SENTIMENT.

IT GOES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AS FAR BACK AS THE 1848 AFTER THE GOLD RUSH YOU HAD V THIS INFLUX OF CHINESE IMMIGRANTS COMING TO AMERICA TO WORK THE GOLD FIELDS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AND FAIRLY QUICKLY THEY BEGAN TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE ATTITUDE OF MANY EUROPEANS AND EUROPEAN AMERICANS THAT IF THERE WAS GOLD, IT SHOULD BE FOR THEM AND NOT FOR THOSE.

YOU CAN USE THE PEJORATIVES YOU CAN THINK OF.

THAT CONTINUED WITH THE NATIONAL ORIGINS ACT WHICH BASICALLY EXCLUDED ASIANS FROM IMMIGRATING TO AMERICA UP TO THE INTERNMENT OF THE JAPANESE AND THE JAPANESE AMERICANS DURING WORLD WAR II.

SO WE HAVE HAD A LONG HISTORY IN AMERICA OF ANTI-ASIAN SENTIMENT AND THAT ONLY BECAME EXACERBATED STARTING IN THE 1960s AS YOU BEGIN TO HAVE A STEADY INCREASING ASIAN IMMIGRATION INTO AMERICA FROM A NUMBER OF PLACES.

AND THOSE IMMIGRANTS SEEM TO DO VERY WELL, ESPECIALLY IN ACADEMIA, IN DEVELOPING SMALL BUSINESSES, AND PEOPLE BEGAN TO BLAME THEIR LACK OF SUCCESS FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW, ON THIS INFLUX OF ASIAN IMMIGRANTS AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE BEST PLACES IN THE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES, THEY'RE GETTING THE GRANTS FOR RESEARCH AND THEY'RE GETTING THE JOBS IN SILICON VALLEY, ET CETERA.

>> WELL, I GUESS I WOULD SAY THAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PLACES HAVE DIFFERENT STEREOTYPES OF DIFFERENT NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES OF ASIANS.

SO WE ARE IN THE UNIVERSITIES AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE, AS TARA MENTIONED, ENVIOUS, JEALOUS, WHATEVER, RESENTFUL OF ASIANS GETTING INTO HARVARD AND YALE AND GETTING GOOD JOBS, BUT IF YOU LIVE IN NEW YORK CITY OR IF YOU LIVE IN LOS ANGELES, YOU SEE AROUND YOU, NOT RICH ASIANS, WHICH ARE THOSE PEOPLE, BUT YOU SEE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND YOU SEE SERVICE WORKERS AND YOU SEE PEOPLE WORKING IN LAUNDRIES AND SO FORDS FORTH THE VIOLENCE AGAINST ASIANS IS AGAINST THE LATTER PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE LADDER OF SUCCESS AND I THINK THE VIOLENCE IS PRESIDENT TRUMPS FAULT.

THIS WHOLE COVID WUHAN FLU WAS STARTED BY HIM, REPEATED BY HIM AND HIS FOLLOWERS AND GIVES, ALLOWS PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE ABLE TO BEAT UP OR HARASS ASIANS BECAUSE OF THAT.

>> I WONDER ABOUT THE EFFECT YOU MENTIONED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ELITE COLLEGES AND SORT OF A DIFFERENT ECONOMIC CLASS OF ASIAN AMERICANS IN SOME OF THE CITIES.

ARE WE SEEING, JAMILA, AN IMPACT IN TERMS OF URBAN GENTRIFICATION?

>> YEAH, I MEAN THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROCESSES AT PLAY HERE AND SOCIOECONOMIC PROCESSES AND GENTRIFICATION ARE PART OF IT.

BUT I HAVE TO SAY I DO DISAGREE WITH KRISTI AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN BUT IN THIS CASE, I DO.

TARA POINTED OUT A LONG HISTORY OF ANTI-ASIAN SENTIMENT.

BUT IT GOES BEYOND THAT.

THERE IS ACTUALLY A LONG HISTORY OF ANTI-ASIAN VIOLENCE, RIGHT?

IN THE 1850s, WE HAVE CHINESE IMMIGRANTS BEING KILLED BY WHITE AMERICANS WHO FEEL AS THOUGH THEY'RE TAKING AWAY THEIR JOBS.

AND THOSE WHITE AMERICANS DON'T GET PROSECUTED IN COURT, RIGHT?

THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT SAYS SOMEONE OF ASIAN DISSENT CANNOT EVEN TESTIFY AGAINST A WHITE PERSON IN CALIFORNIA.

IN 1871 AND 1885, YOU HAVE MASSACRES OF ENTIRE GROUPS OF CHINESE PEOPLE IN TOWNS WHERE THEY LIVED, RIGHT?

THERE IS A MASSACRE IN WE OAMING IN 1885 WHERE 28 PEOPLE ARE KILLED, 79 HOMES ARE BURNED DOWN AND IT TAKES FEDERAL TROOPS OF 13 YEARS OF STAYING THERE TO GET THINGS UNDER CONTROL.

AND THAT CONTINUES THROUGHOUT HISTORY.

IN 1982, THE REALLY WELL KNOWN MURDER OF VIN VINCENT CHIN BY DETROIT AUTO WORKERS WHO FELT THE JAPANESE, VINCENT CHIN WAS CHINESE, WERE TAKING AWAY THEIR JOBS.

AND HARDLY EVER ARE THESE CRIMES PUNISHED.

VINCENT CHIN'S MURDERERS GOT PROBATION.

THERE IS A LONG HISTORY ARE SAYING NOT ONLY DO WE RESPOND TO WHATEVER OUR ANXIETIES ARE AND ANIMOSITIES ARE AND SYMPATHIES TOWARDS ASIAN AMERICANS, WHETHER IT'S BASED ON ECONOMIC ANXIETIES OR JUST STRAIGHT OLD RACIAL HATE AND THOSE ARE NOT ALWAYS EASY TO DISENTANGLE, BUT WHATEVER THOSE THINGS ARE, YOU CAN BE VIOLENT AGAINST ASIAN PEOPLE AND THERE IS HARDLY ANY RAMIFICATIONS.

YES, TRUMP HAS MADE THIS WORSE BUT THIS IS WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE HAVE LONG DONE IN THE UNITED STATES IN RESPONSE TO ANXIETIES THAT WE HAVE OR HATRED THAT WE HAVE TOWARDS ASIAN AMERICANS.

>> I HAVE TO LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE AT THIS POINT.

SORRY, LUKE WE DIDN'T GET TO YOU ON THIS TOPIC.

WE NEED TO MOVE TO THE As AND Fs.

KRISTI, YOUR F, PLEASE.

>> MY F GOES TO MY CONGRESSWOMAN CLAUDIA TENNEY, SHE HAS CREATED A NEW HOUSE CAUCUS FOCUSING ON ELECTION TREG AT THING TRI.

THIS IS GOOD, RIGHT?

NO, BECAUSE HER IDEA OF ELECTION INTEGRITY IS TO OPPOSE DEMOCRATIC PROPOSALS FOR THINGS LIKE SAME DAY REGISTRATION, NO EXCUSE EARLY VOTING AND.

HER IDEA IS MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR HER TO VOTE.

>> JAMILA, MY F GOES TO FORMER GOVERNOR MIKE HUCKABEE ON THIS POINT OF ANTI-ASIAN SENTIMENT EARLIER THIS WEEK.

HE TWEETED THAT HE HAS DECIDED TO IDENTIFY CHINESE SO HE CAN GET CORPORATE FAVOR FROM CORPORATE ENTITIES IN THE CONTEXT OF ANTI-ASIAN VIOLENCE, EVEN IF THIS WAS MEANT OF SARCASM OR JOKE, IT WAS COMPLETELY WRONG AND IRRESPONSIBLE.

>> TARA, YOUR F, PLEASE.

>> TO THE GROWING INSTABILITY AND CHILDISHNESS AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNANCE, PARTICULARLY THE STATE LEVEL.

THE THREE MOST RECENT EXAMPLES ARE IN INDIANA, YOU HAD AN INDIANA STATE LEGISLATOR WHO WAS THREATENED BY ANOTHER LEGISLATOR IN THE MEN'S ROOM TO THE POINT WHERE HE RAN OUT OF THE MEN'S ROOM.

YOU HAVE HAD THE CASE IN GEORGIA WHERE THE GEORGIA STATE REPRESENTATIVE PARK CAMERON WAS ARREST FORD KNOCKING ON THE GOVERNOR'S DOOR WHILE HE WAS SIGNING THE GEORGIA VOTING LEGISLATION.

AND THEN THE STATEMENTS BY GUSTAVO RIVERA CALLING ANYONE A RACIST WHO DISAGREED WITH HIS VIEWS ON THE AID PACKAGE FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IN THE BUDGET.

BASICALLY, ALL OF THIS IS VERY STRESSFUL AND BASICALLY THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO UPHOLD CIVILITY AND JUSTICE AND THEY NEED TO REALIZE BOTH THINGS START WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.

>> LUKE, YOUR F, PLEASE.

>> TO NEW FINDINGS THAT PRODUCT PLACEMENT OF E-CIGARETTES IN MUSIC VIDEOS, SOME VIEWED A BILLION TIMES ON YOUTUBE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO INCREASED VAPING.

IT NEEDS TO BE BANNED LIKE IT IS FOR OTHER TOBACCO PRODUCTS.

>> KRISTI YOUR A QUICKLY.

>> JANET YELLENS PROPOSAL FOR GLOBAL CORPORATE INCOME TAX TO REDUCE THE INCENTIVES FOR CORPORATIONS TO MOVE TO COUNTRIES THAT TAX PROFITS AT A LOWER RATE.

IT HAS BEEN SUCCESS DISCUSSED FOR EFERL YEARS.

>> JAMILA YOUR A PLEASE.

>> TO THE ONE THIRD OF AMERICANS WHO HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED AT LEAST THEIR FIRST COVID VACCINATION SHOTS.

>> TARA YOUR A, PLEASE.

>> THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THANKS TO THEIR AIR POLLUTION CONTROL STANDARDS, THE STATE HAS REDUCED TOXIC AIR POLLUTION BY 78% AND THAT, IN TURN, HAS RESULTED IN 82% FEWER DEATHS LINKED TO FOSSIL FUEL.

>> MY A TO CDC DIRECTOR ROCHELLE WOLNISKI FOR CALLING RACISM A PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT AND FURTHER RELATED RESEARCH AND PURSUE HEALTH EQUITY.

>> OKAY.

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