>>> TONIGHT ON KQED NEWSROOM.

THE WARRORS BEAT THE CELTICS, CAPTURING THEIR FOURTH NBA CHAMPIONSHIP IN TALKING ABOUT A BASKETBALL DYNASTY.

>>> WHAT HAPPENED WHEN AN ALLEGED GROUP OF PROUD BOYS SCARE CHILDREN AT A LIBRARY THIS WEEK.

OUR NEWS PANEL DIGS IN THIS WEEK.

>>> THIS WEEK SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL, A WALK DOWN CLARION ALLEY IN SAN FRANCISCO'S MISSION DISTRICT.

>>> COMING TO YOU FROM KQED'S HEADQUARTERS IN SAN FRANCISCO, FRIDAY, JUNE, 17, 2022.

>> I AM SCOTT SHAFER IN FOR PRIYA DAVID CLEMENS.

ON THURSDAY THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS HELD OFF THE CELTICS WINNING THEIR FOURTH NBA CHAMPIONSHIP IN EIGHT YEARS.

ALL OF THEM UNDER THE LEADERSHIP UNDER COACH STEVE KERR.

HERE TALK ABOUT THE SEASON IS MARK WILLARD.

MARK, WHAT A YEAR?

WHAT A SEASON.

NO ONE REALLY SAW THIS COMING.

ANYONE WHO SAID THEY DID IS PROBABLY LYING.

WHY WAS IT, NO ONE THAT THE WARRIORS COULD DO IT THIS YEAR?

>> IS MONEY.

THEY WERE LIKE ONE OF THE TOP FIVE OR SIX OF THE FAVORITE, BUT IT WASN'T LIKE ANYONE BELIEVED IT.

IT WAS LIKE A RESPECT NOT FOR THEIR PREVIOUS ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO OVERCOME SO MANY DEVASTATING INJURIES.

IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR ARC OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE DEPARTURE OF KEVIN DURAND, LEE THOMPSON WITH BACK TO BACK DEVASTATING INJURIES, A TORN ACL AND A TORN ACHILLES.

NOT QUITE AS BAD.

FOR THREE YEARS RUNNING, THEY WERE NEVER HEALTHY AS A GROUP.

EVEN THIS YEAR, THEY WERE NEVER FULLY ALL THERE AT THE SAME TIME UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS STARTED.

IT WAS ALMOST A LEAP OF FAITH, TO THINK IF THEY EVER WERE TO GET BACK TOGETHER, MAYBE IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IT USED TO.

SUDDENLY IT DID.

>> SUDDENLY IT DID.

IT IS ALL ABOUT PEAKING AT THE RIGHT TIME.

STEVE KERR SAID THIS WIN, THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, WITH THE LEAST LIKELY ARE MOST UNLIKELY OF THE FOUR.

WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

>> YES.

SIMPLY BASED ON THE TALENT OF THE PEOPLE ON THE ROSTER.

I MENTIONED KEVIN DURANT NO LONGER BEING ON THE ROSTER.

THE WERE TOO GOOD FOR EVERYONE.

THIS ONE, A MIXTURE OF YOUNG PLAYERS.

EVEN THE PLAYERS YOU KNEW WERE EXPERIENCED AND TALENTED ARE NOW IN THEIR MID-30s AS OPPOSED TO THEIR LATE 20s.

CLAY IS COMING OFF OF THESE INJURIES AND WHAT HE PERFORMED THE SAME WAY?

THERE WERE SO MANY QUESTIONS AND YOU HAD TO BLEND NEW PLAYERS IN TOGETHER AND YOU NEVER KNOW HOW THAT SAUCE IS GOING TO TASTE UNTIL IT IS ALL MIXED TOGETHER.

>> WITH CURRY'S INJURY LATE IN THE SEASON, IT WAS LIKE, I DON'T THINK THOSE THREE GUYS, HAD REALLY PLAYED MUCH TOGETHER.

>> A MATTER OF JUST A SMALL HANDFUL OF GAMES.

ADD THAT IN WITH THE OTHER PLAYERS WHO ARE NEW TO THIS.

ANDREW WIGGINS, YOUNG PLAYERS LIKE JORDAN POOLE.

YOU JUST DIDN'T KNOW.

I DO ALSO WANT TO GIVE A NOD TO ALL THOSE INJURIES, TO THE WAY THE WARRIORS LATEST.

I THINK AT TIMES, THE INJURIES WERE NOT QUITE AS BAD AS WE WOULD THINK BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY CONSERVATIVE WITH THE WAY THEY WANTED TO PLAY.

>> NOT KLAY THOMPSON.

>>> HE PROBABLY STAYED OUT A LITTLE LONGER THAN HE HAD TO.

HE NEVER PLAYED BACK TO BACK GAMES.

THEY PLAY TWO NIGHTS IN A ROW HE WOULD ONLY PLAY ONE.

TOOK A VERY MEASURED APPROACH WITH THE EYE ON THE PLAYOFFS AND IT WORKED.

>> YOU MENTIONED ANDREW WIGGINS.

HE WAS KIND OF A BOMB.

HE WAS A FIRST DRAFT PICK BY THE TIMBERWOLVES.

BY ALL ACCOUNTS, A DISAPPOINTMENT.

I GUESS IT WAS A ROLL OF THE DICE TO ACQUIRE HIM.

THE WARRIORS SAW SOMETHING IN HIM.

>> NO DOUBT.

THEY SAW SOMETHING IN HIM , NUMBER ONE.

A ROLL OF THE DICE, EXCEPT IT WASN'T LIKE THEY HAD A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS EITHER.

BASED ON SOME SALARY-CAP RULES, HE ALLOWED THE TEAM, INSTEAD OF KEVIN LEAVING ON HIS OWN TO TURN IT INTO A SIGN AND TRADE DEAL THAT LED THEM ACQUIRING D'ANGELO RUSSELL.

THEN THEY TRADED HIM TO GET RUSSELL.

THEY HAD TO GET SOMEONE IN THAT WHO WAS AVAILABLE.

HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN TALENTED, HIS REPUTATION, HE WOULD KIND OF CREW THAT BE LEVEL.

HE WAS NEVER PART OF THE CULTURE THAT WAS THAT GREAT.

THE TIMBERWOLVES HAD NEVER REALLY ACHIEVED ANYTHING.

THAT IS WHERE THE KEY FOR ANDREW.

HE HAS A TALENT AND HE NEEDED TO LEARN ABOUT THE CULTURE FROM PEOPLE LIKE STEPH, CLAY AND RAYMONDE.

>> DO THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN.

IT HAS TO BE MORE THAN THAT.

YOU HAVE TO FEEL LIKE THIS IS A PLACE FOR HIM TO THRIVE.

>> WHAT I BELIEVE IS WHAT ANDREW NEEDED IS TO GET IN A SPOT WHERE HE WAS ACCEPTED.

THEY WEREN'T LOOKING AT HIM TO LEAD.

THAT IS EITHER NOT IN HIS DNA OR HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

HE FOUND A SPOT WHERE HE WAS VERY EXCEPT THAT AND THEY PUT HIM IN HIS BEST POSITION TO SUCCEED.

HE WASN'T ASKED TO GO OUT THERE AND BE THAT LEAD CHARACTER IN THE SHOW.

>> HERE IS ALREADY SHY.

>> HE IS AN UNDERSTATED GUY.

I FEEL LIKE I HAVE HEARD HIM TALK AND SMILE IN THE FIRST OF HIS CAREER.

HE ENDED UP FITTING WELL INTO THE ROLEX OF MANY OF THE OTHER PIECES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

>> IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS FOREVER AGO, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE VACCINATED.

THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A BIG PROBLEM.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT ALL WENT INTO THAT, THE TEAM TALK TO HIM AND PEOPLE HE TRUSTS.

HE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE VACCINE AND MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS.

HE WAS DENIED A RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION.

HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT FOR HIM TO BASIC THE DO WHAT HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO.

>> IT IS HUGE.

OBVIOUSLY THE RULES IN CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK AT THAT TIME ARE VERY DIFFERENT.

PLAYERS WERE SIMPLY NOT GOING TO PLAY IF THEY DID NOT AGREE TO GET THE VACCINE.

LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK THERE WILL ALWAYS BE MYSTERIES TO EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON, WHO TALKED TO WHO AND HOW IT FIGURED IT OUT.

IN NEW YORK, KYRIE IRVING MAY HAVE DERAILED THE NEXT SEASON.

ANDREW WIGGINS FINALLY DID.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE HIS HEAD THAT WAS AT THE BEGINNING.

IN A WAY I LIKE TO THINK OF IT SPEAKING TO THE CULTURE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

WHERE THE GROUP SORT OF IMPRESSED UPON HIM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE NEEDING TO FIGURE OUT .

>> THEY NEVER TURNED ON HIM.

THEY WERE REALLY SUPPORTIVE DURING FINALLY AFTER ALL THE THINGS STEPH CURRY HAS DONE MORE AND WITH THE WARRIORS, HE IS THE MVP.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO HIM AND THE TEAM?

>> ANYWHERE WAY IT MEANS MORE TO ALL OF US AND I ME THAT I FANS, MEDIA, WHAT HAVE YOU.

WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IT BEING THE ONLY TROPHY THAT IS NOT IN HIS CASE.

HE IS SUCH A TEAM GUY, I DON'T THINK IT HAS BOTHERED HIM AS MUCH AS SOME PEOPLE WANTED TO BOTHER HIM.

THEY ALSO SHOWED, WHEN THEY WON, THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID ABOUT THEM.

THAT DOES MATTER TO THEM.

THIS TAKES AWAY THE LAST THING THAT SOMEONE CAN POINT TO THAT STAFF HAS NOT ACHIEVED.

>> BEFORE LAST NIGHT, CURRY WAS HORRIBLE.

THE FIRST CAME IN FOUR GAMES HE HADN'T HAD A THREE-POINTER.

HE WAS 0 FOR 9.

HE HAD 34 POINTS LAST NIGHT.

>> HE DID.

SOME OF THOSE WERE QUINTESSENTIAL CURRY VARIETY.

I THINK ANYONE WHO IS ULTRACOMPETITIVE LIKE THESE GUYS ARE, THINK ABOUT THE MOTIVATION IT TAKES TO BE WINNING.

IF YOU ARE THAT ULTRACOMPETITIVE, IT BOTHERS YOU WHEN YOU DO THAT.

YOU WANT TO RESPOND.

IN A WAY, WHEN THE WARRIORS WON GAME FIVE, I THINK IT WORKED IN THEIR FAVOR FOR GAME SIX.

YOU KNEW CURRY WAS GOING TO COME OUT BETTER.

>> THEY ARE GETTING UP THERE IN THEIR AGE.

THEY ARE ALMOST IN THEIR MID- 30s.

THEY ARESTILL TOGETHER AND PROBABLY -- THEY GREW UP TOGETHER.

THEY HAVE KIDS NOW SOME OF THEM.

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT HAVE TO MAKE THE NEXT GENERATION, HAVING PLAYED ON A TEAM LIKE THIS WITH THESE GUYS?

WE SHOULD ALSO MENTION, ANDRE WHO WAS A MAN SURE.

>> I THINK IT SETS HIM UP FOR THE POTENTIAL OF THIS BEING A VERY INTEREST AND LONG RUN.

WERE THEY ARE ALMOST HANDING A BATON TO OTHERS.

IF THESE GUYS CAN REALIZE THEIR POTENTIAL, THEY ALSO HAVE THIS EXPERIENCE OF KNOWING HOW TO WIN AND THEY CAN TAKE THAT INTO THEIR VETERAN YEARS.

PLATE FEWER MINUTES AND FEWER GAMES AS THEY GET READY FOR THE PLAYOFFS.

ONE OF THOSE RARE THINGS WHERE IT WAS LIKE, THEY COMPLETED THE CIRCLE WITHOUT KEVIN DURANT BUT THERE IS ALSO AN OPENING FOR THIS TO KEEP GOING.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THE WARRIORS, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THEY ROLL THE DICE.

WHEN THEY CAME TO SAN FRANCISCO AND LEFT AND, I THINK A LOT OF THE GUYS, DRAIN AND CLAY.

OAKLAND WANTED THEM TO SAY.

WHAT IMPACT DO YOU THINK MOVING HERE TO SAN FRANCISCO HAS HAD ON THE FRANCHISE AND ON THE PLAYERS?

>> IT IS INTERESTING.

IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE MORE LIKE WITHIN THE BAY AREA A GLOBAL FEEL NOW.

THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME FEELINGS ARE, NOT ONLY WITH THE FANS BUT THE PLAYERS.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OAKLAND HERE, THE RAIDERS ARE GONE, THE WARRIORS GO ACROSS THE BAY.

THE A's ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF DISCUSSING A DEPARTURE AS WELL.

THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT EMOTIONALLY.

THIS DID BIRTH CHASE CENTER INTO BEING A PLACE THAT CAN BE LOD AND CAN BE HOME-COURT ADVANTAGE.

I THINK WHEN STUFF LIKE THIS HAPPENS, IT BRINGS ALL WORRIER FANS TOGETHER.

IT DOES HELP MOVE THE STORY FORWARD AT A MINIMUM.

>> WHERE DO THEY GO FROM HERE?

OF COURSE WE SHOULDN'T MOVE ALONG TOO FAST.

WE WANT TO FAVOR THE WIN.

HE WILL ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR, WHO WILL THEY SIGN?

WHO WILL THEY LET GO?

I DON'T SEE THE COURT THREE NOT BEING WITH THE TEAM.

WHAT CHOICES ARE NOW AHEAD FOR THE TEAM?

>> IT'LL PROBABLY BE A QUIET OFF-SEASON.

THERE ARE A FEW THINGS, KEVON LOONEY IS A FREE AGENT.

THEY WILL HAVE TO DO THAT OUT.

GARY PAYTON THE SECOND AND PORTER.

WE ALSO MENTION ANDRE IGUODALA MIGHT RETIRE.

I LARGELY THINK THE WARRIORS WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS GATHER AND DO IT AGAIN.

THEY ARE SPENDING UNPRECEDENTED DOLLARS.

YOU HAVE CHASE CENTER, THEY OWN IT.

THEY EARNED A TON GOING TO THE PAY LOSS.

THEY ARE FINE, BUT THAT WILL BE A QUESTION.

EVEN FOR THE GUYS.

WHAT ROLE DOES JORDAN POOLE WANT TO PLAY.

DOES HE FEEL HE CAN HAVE A BIGGER ROLE SOMEWHERE ELSE?

THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT PROBABLY IS STILL A YEAR AWAY.

THE PARADE IS ON MONDAY.

SUCH A GREAT THING FOR THE CITY AND THE REGION.

GIVEN THE PANDEMIC.

THEY HAD A HORRIBLE SEASON, THEY WERE THE WORST IN THE LEAGUE.

THIS IS CATHARTIC, ISN'T IT?

>> IT IS.

I THINK MONDAY WILL BE SORT OF THE THERAPY THAT ALL OF US HAVE NEEDED.

NOT ONLY LOOKING AT WORRIER BASKETBALL BUT WHAT COINCIDED IN OUR WORLD AT THAT TIME?

KLAY THOMPSON WITH DOUBLE INJURIES AND WORRIER BASKETBALL GOES FROM FINALS EVERY YEAR TO TWO YEARS OF BEING TERRIBLE.

WE ARE ALL GOING THROUGH COVID- 19 AT THE TIME, TO COME BACK TOGETHER AND CELEBRATE THIS.

AN OUTDOOR LARGE EVENT.

I THINK IT WILL FEEL GOOD FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

>> MARK , THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> LAST WEEKEND, SEVERAL MEN BELIEVED TO BELIEVE PART OF PROUD BOYS.

INTERRUPTED STORY HOUR AT A LIBRARY IN EAST BAY.

THE MAN SHOUTED SLURS AT THE HOST OF THE EVENT FORCING LIBRARIANS TO CALL THE POLICE.

OFFICERS ARRIVED BUT MADE NO ARRESTS.

THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE INCIDENTS OF VIOLENCE IN THE PAST WEEK, ALL AIMED AT LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THERE WAS A BOMB OUTSIDE THE HOME OF SAN JOSE COUNCILMAN, A SENATOR SCOTT WEINER.

ATE A MULBERRY COUNCILMEMBERS SUFFERED A TWO INCH LACERATION AFTER TWO MEN DROPPED A BRICK ON HIS HEAD.

THESE INCIDENTS ARE WAGING CONCERNS OF THE SAFETY OF POLITICIANS.

SECURITY IS WELL DURING THE PRIDE EVENT HAPPENING THIS MONTH.

JOINING NOW TO DISCUSS THIS IN MORE OF THE WEEK'S NEWS IS KQED MANAGING EDITOR OTIS TAYLOR JUNIOR AND JOE FITZGERALD RODRIGUEZ.

MY COLLEAGUES, GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

JOE, LET ME BEGIN WITH YOU.

YOU BROKE THE STORY LAST WEEK AND ABOUT THE DRY QUEEN HAPPY HOUR.

PHYLLIS AND A LITTLE ON WHAT WHAT AND DOWN.

>> TO START.

THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THESE DRY QUEEN HAPPY HOURS FOR YEARS.

SHE IS A LOCAL DRY QUEEN FROM SAN FRANCISCO.

WHAT SHE DOES IS SITS DOWN WITH KIDS AND READS THEM A BOOK.

THE BOOK SHE WAS READING WAS FAMILIES, FAMILIES FAMILIES ABOUT INCLUSIVE FAMILIES.

TWO DEBTS, TWO CO-MOMS.

SHE WAS DOING THIS ON SATURDAY WHEN, SAYING THE WELCOME SONG IS WHAT SHE WAS DOING.

>> THESE DRAG QUEEN TELLING STORIES HAPPEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

>> THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO THE BAY AREA.

IT DARTED IN SAN FRANCISCO AND BLOSSOM TO BE IN ALL 50 STATES AND INTERNATIONAL AS WELL.

>> INCREDIBLE.

WE SAW THE PICTURES OF THOSE MEN, BUT THERE WERE NO ARRESTS.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHY?

>> AT THE TIME, THERE WERE 8 TO 10 MEN BEFORE THEY DISPERSED.

THE SHERIFF SAID, THEY WEREN'T AWARE THAT HATEFUL THINGS WERE BEING SET AT THE MOMENT ONCE THEY GOT THERE.

THIS IS A CLAIM BY THE ALAMEDA COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT.

THEY SAID THEY WERE UNAWARE OF IT BUT POORLY WAS RUNNING TO A DISTURBANCE CALL.

THESE MEN WERE THERE SHOUTING WITH CHILDREN IN FRONT OF THEM SHOUTING WORDS THAT I PROBABLY SHOULD NOT SAY ON AIR.

>> PROBABLY NOT.

>> AT THIS LOCAL DRAG QUEEN.

WORDS OF HEAT.

>> OTIS, THIS INCIDENT IN SAN LORENZO , A NUMBER OF THREATS AND ACTUAL VIOLENCE IN SOME CASES.

TELL US WHAT YOU SEE THE CONNECTION.

>> I'LL GIVE YOU THAT, BUT I WANT TO DO SOME HISTORICAL CONTEXT ABOUT SAN LORENZO.

IN 2016, STUDENTS OF COLOR BANDED TOGETHER TO ADVOCATE FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD TO CHANGE THE MASCOT AND NAME OF THE SCHOOL TEAMS.

THEY WERE KNOWN AS THE REBELS THEN.

THE MASCOT WAS KNOWN AS THE REBEL GUY.

HE WAS A JUST PENDANT OF COLONEL REB WHO WAS MODELED AFTER CONFEDERATE SOLDIER.

SAN LORENZO HIGH SCHOOL IS WHERE WHITE STUDENTS WERE BLACKFACE AND WERE AUCTIONED OFF FOR, CHARITY, BUT THEY WERE AUCTIONED OFF UNTIL THE 60s.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE IN THAT SCHOOL, MOCKING BLACK PEOPLE ESSENTIALLY.

NOW, EXTREMIST BEHAVIOR IS ON THE RISE IN THIS COUNTRY AND PARTICULARLY IN CALIFORNIA.

MY COLLEAGUES RECENTLY REPORTED ON A PLOT OF TWO WHITE NATIONALISTS TO BLOW UP THE DEMOCRATIC BUILDING IN SACRAMENTO.

THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS A UNIT TO INVESTIGATE EXTREMISTS AND TERRORISTIC THREATS IN THIS COUNTRY.

I WANT TO POINT OUT, SCOTT, THIS IS NOT HAPPENING UNDER CLOAKS.

UNDER HOODS, OR IN THE COVER OF NIGHT.

THIS IS WIDELY ACCEPTED BY SOME PEOPLE.

IT IS ON MESSAGE BOARDS AND IT IS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

>> YEAH.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT SOCIAL MEDIA IN CALIFORNIA, THERE ARE HANDLES THAT ACTIVELY PROMOTE VIOLENCE, INCLUDING AGAINST SCOTT WEINER.

>> JOE, YOU HAVE BEEN DOING REPORTING AND DIGGING ON THAT AS WELL AS IT RELATES TO SAN LORENZO.

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THERE IS A TWITTER ACCOUNT , TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THE INCIDENT HAD A MAKE A THREAD OF DRAG QUEEN CELEBRATIONS WITH YOUTH AND OTHER PRIDE EVENTS WITH YOUTH ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WE SAW, I WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT TRYING TO DESCRIBE CAUSALITY.

AT THE VERY LEAST, WE SAW AFTER THAT THOSE SAME INCIDENTS TARGETED.

SAN LORENZO WAS ONE OF THEM, THE OTHER WAS THE ARREST OF 31 PATRIOT FRONT NUMBERS IN IDAHO.

THIS IS A PATTERN AND THIS IS NATIONAL.

>> THE FACT THAT IT IS THRIVING IN CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA IS A BIG DATE.

IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT CALIFORNIA YOU THINK THAT IS FOMENTING THAT KIND OF THINKING AND BEHAVIOR?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS FOMENTING, I THINK IT IS THE IDEA WE HAVE OF CALIFORNIA.

THE REPUTATION THAT CALIFORNIA HAS IN IT IS PRESENTED AS PROGRESSIVE.

THIS POST-RACIAL STATE.

THIS ENERGY HAS BEEN IN CALIFORNIA, SINCE THE STATE'S INCEPTION.

>> EXACTLY.

WE SEE IT STILL MUCH ALIVE.

LET ME CHANGE GEARS AND TALK ABOUT THESE IMPENDING DECISIONS FROM THE U.S. SUPREME COURT WHICH WE EXPECT THE END OF THE MONTH.

COULD VERY WELL STRIKE DOWN ROE V WADE WHICH GAVE WOMEN THE RIGHT TO ABORTION.

IN REALITY, IN CALIFORNIA, THAT IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE.

IN SOME PARTS OF THE STATES, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF A LACK OF PROVIDERS.

CALIFORNIA TRIES TO MAKE THE STATE A SANCTUARY FOR WOMEN COMING HERE, SEEKING REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH SERVICES.

WHAT IMPACT DO YOU THINK I CAN HAVE JOE?

>> THE GOVERNO HAD A SPECIAL TASK FORCE LOOKING AT THIS.

LOOKING AT THE INFLUX OF PEOPLE.

THERE WERE MAYBE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COMING ANNUALL TO CALIFORNIA BEFORE FOR ABORTION SERVICES.

NOW IT IS EXPECTED 1.4 MILLION.

A QUITE DRAMATIC INCREASE.

WE KNOW IN RURAL AREAS THERE ARE FEWER CLINICS WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACCESS THE SERVICES.

LOW INCOME AREAS, PEOPLE HAVE MUCH LESS ACCESS TO THE SERVICES.

LOW-INCOME AREAS CAN BE PEOPLE WITH PEOPLE OF COLOR.

>> OTIS, THE STATE IS FLUSH WITH CASH RIGHT NOW.

THEY WILL BE FUNDING TO HELP PEOPLE COME HERE.

DO YOU SEE ANY TENSIONS ON THE ROAD, BASED ON WHAT JOE JUST SAID OR ANYTHING ELSE AROUND US BECOMING A SANCTUARY?

WE SAW THE SAME THING WITH IMMIGRATION, RIGHT?

>> SURE.

I DEFINITELY DO.

WE HAVE THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN 2024.

THE FORMER PRESIDENT, WHETHER HE RUNS OR NOT, IS GOING TO PLAY A ROLE IN THAT ELECTION.

HIS RHETORIC INSPIRED AN INSURRECTION AS WE ARE SEEING IN THE HOUSE HEARINGS.

JOE, I WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO MAKE CALIFORNIA A TARGET FOR MORE EXTREMIST BEHAVIOR.

>> RIGHT.

>> THIS IS ALSO SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE A STAND.

>> SAN FRANCISCO ESPECIALLY IS A SYMBOL.

THERE IS SOMETHING THE NATIONAL IMAGINATION THAT SAN FRANCISCO CALIFORNIA BOTH MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY IT, AND INVOKES A THOUGHT, IT INVOKES PROGRESSIVE THOUGHTS.

THAT MAKES IT A TARGET.

>> LET'S NOT FORGET, 40 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS THE SAME KIND OF HATRED BUBBLING UP AT THE TIME.

>> WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF PRIDE MONTH, WE SHOULD NOT FORGET THAT.

WE SHOULD ALSO NOTE, SAN FRANCISCO PD ARE PLANNING ACCORDINGLY.

>> KEVIN NEWSOME YESTERDAY, DECIDED TO GO ON TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM DONALD TRUMP HAS STARTED.

OTIS, THIS COULD GENERATE SOME HEAT AND ANGER DIRECTED.

DO YOU THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING POLITICALLY?

HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT?

>> I THINK, I AM NOT SURE WHERE KEVIN NEWSOME STANDS RIGHT NOW.

SCOTT, AS YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE A TWO TERM GOVERNOR.

IF HE IS ELECTED IN THE FALL.

HE IS ALSO LOOKING FOR A NATIONAL OFFICE.

HE IS LOOKING TO RAISE HIS PROFILE ONCE AGAIN.

SCOTT, I DON'T KNOW.

KEVIN NEWSOME IS THE ONE WHO SIGNED THE BILL THAT CREATED THE CALIFORNIA REPARATIONS TASK FORCE.

HOW MUCH APPETITE WILL HE HAVE TO SUPPORT THAT, IF HE HAS THESE COUNTER PROTESTS FOR ANTIABORTION RIGHTS IF WE SEE EXTREMIST BEHAVIOR.

HOW MUCH APPETITE WILL HE HAVE TO SUPPORT THAT?

WHICH I THINK WILL ALSO DRAW A LOT OF EXTREMIST BEHAVIOR.

>> EXACTLY.

I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT JUNETEENTH.

THE FIRST TIME AROUND THIS WEEK, NEXT WEEK, MONDAY THAT IT IS A NATIONAL HOLIDAY.

ON THE HEELS OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH GEORGE FLOYD'S MURDER.

GIVE US A SHORT, WE ARE A LITTLE LIGHT ON TIME.

THE HISTORY OF JUNETEENTH AND WHY WE SHOULD REALLY PAY ATTENTION.

>> SURE.

ON JANUARY 1st, 18 SIX 23, THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION WAS SIGNED.

IT TOOK ALMOST FOUR YEARS, FOUR YEARS UNTIL JUNE 19, 1865 FOR THE INNS LADEN TEXAS TO BE LIBERATED.

THAT IS WHAT JUNETEENTH MEANS.

THAT IS WHY IT IS COMMEMORATED.

WE NEED MORE THAN A NATIONAL HOLIDAY.

ONE MORE DAY OFF, TO ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE HISTORICHARM OF SLAVERY IN THIS COUNTRY.

>> WHAT SHOULD BE WE THINKING ABOUT?

>> WE HAVE A MULTI-DAY MLK DAY.

WHAT KIND OF REFLECTION SHOULD BE BE HOPING FOR?

>> WE SHOULD BE HOPING FOR PUSHING THE MESSAGE OF WE NEED EQUITY IN THIS COUNTRY.

TO ACHIEVE THAT, THIS COUNTRY HAS TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND RECKON WITH ITS RACIST HISTORY.

>> JOE, YOU HAVE BEEN DOING REPORTING AROUND HATE CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING.

MOSTLY DIRECTED AT ASIAN AMERICANS.

CLEARLY, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE VERY MUCH CONNECTED WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR HISTORY.

OUR PRESENT AND THE VIOLENCE IN THE PAST AND HOW IT IMPACTS THINGS HAPPENING NOW.

>> WE ARE DEFINITELY SEEING AN INCREASE IN THINGS HAPPENING HERE IN THE BAY AREA.

ALTHOUGH WE THINK WE ARE IN THIS PROGRESSIVE BUBBLE, WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.

IT IS HAPPENING HERE IN HAPPENING NOW.

>> YEAH, WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE TO THAT?

WE SEE THERE WERE ISSUES AROUND POLICE AND THE PRIDE PARADE THAT GOT RESOLVED.

AMICABLY.

WHAT -- WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE REACTION FOR A CITY AND AN AREA THAT THINKS OF ITSELF AS A PROGRESSIVE BEACON?

TO INSTITUTE PROGRESSIVE THOUGHT.

POLICE CAN'T SOLVE ANYTHING.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE ISSUES THAT ALE SOCIETY.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS, BUT WE NEED TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.

OF THE ORIGINSOF THIS HATE THAT WE SEE.

THAT REALLY, FOR ME, GOES BACK TO SLAVERY AND HOW IMMIGRANTS HAVE BEEN TREATED IN THIS COUNTRY.

FOR CENTURIES.

>> REALLY IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE SEEING, ANTI-ASIAN HATE GROW IN PARTICULAR, WE ARE HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD BE FUNDING POLICE MORE.

ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT AFTER ALL OF THE GEORGE FLOYD'S PROTEST.

WE ARE SEEING TWO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES ASKING FOR SAFETY.

IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.

THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE DISCUSSION RECONCILING WITH WHAT THOSE COMMUNITIES NEED.

>> YES.

FINALLY REAL QUICKLY.

OTIS, ANY PLANS FOR JUNETEENTH?

DON'T TELL ME YOU ARE WORKING.

>> OF COURSE.

I WORK ON MLK DAY TOO.

BECAUSE I CAN.

I AM GOING TO BE GOING TO SOME PARTIES.

GOING TO BERKELEY AND I'M GOING TO GO TO A REPARATIONS LISTENING SESSION.

>> AWESOME.

ALL RIGHT .

OTIS TAYLOR, JOE FITZ GERALD RODRIGUEZ FROM KQED.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>>> WE VISIT A BEAUTIFUL ALLEY HIDDEN AWAY IN THE MISSION DISTRICT OF SAN FRANCISCO.

NOTABLE FOR ITS RICH HISTORY WITH THE ARTS COMMUNITY AND MOST RECENTLY FOR ITS COLORFUL MURALS.

TONIGHT ON SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL.

>>> THAT IS THE END OF OUR SHOW TONIGHT.

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WE WILL SEE YOU RIGHT BACK HERE ON NEXT FRIDAY NIGHT.

HAVE A GREAT FRIDAY NIGHT.