WHO SHOULD BE THE NEXT KANSAS ATTORNEY GENERAL I'M DOING THIS BECAUSE SO MANY KANSANS HAVE ASKED ME TO CONSIDER RUNNING FOR THIS OFFICE AT THIS TIME IN HISTORY WE HAVE TO BE ABLE AND IN A POSITION TO PUSH BACK AGAINST THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND THEIR OVERREACH WE NEED THE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN WHO HAS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO WIN AND THAT IS ME AHEAD OF THE AUGUST PRIMARY ELECTION THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES SQUARE OFF LIVE FROM THE DOUBLETREE HOTEL IN OVERLAND PARK THE KANSAS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S DEBATE IS PRESENTED BY THE JOHNSON COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION 1400 ATTORNEY MEMBERS SERVING THE COMMUNITY SINCE 1938 AND NOW HERE'S YOUR DEBATE MODERATOR FROM KANSAS CITY PBS NICK HAYNES HAS THERE EVER BEEN A TIME WHEN OUR ATTORNEY GENERALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE BEEN MORE IN THE NEWS HAVE YOU NOTICED IN KANSAS AND MISSOURI OUR ATTORNEY GENERALS WHO HAVE BEEN RIGHT AT THE HEART OF EVERY SINGLE HOT BUTTON ISSUE DIVIDING AMERICA RIGHT NOW FROM ABORTION TO GUN RIGHTS EVERYTHING FROM MASS MANDATES TO TRANSGENDER ATHLETES IN GIRLS SPORTS IT'S A POWERFUL POSITION AND THE STAKES ARE REALLY HIGH AND YOU THIS YEAR HAVE A CHANCE TO DECIDE WHO SHOULD BE IN THIS OFFICE STEP ONE BEGINS THIS HOUR AS WE PRESENT TO YOU THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES IN KANSAS WHO WANT THAT JOB KRIS KOBACH WAS TWICE ELECTED KANSAS SECRETARY OF STATE AND IS A FORMER CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR AT UMKC HE LIVES NEAR LA COMPTON TONY MATIVI IS A FORMER ASSISTANT U.S ATTORNEY AND FEDERAL PROSECUTOR HE LIVES IN TOPEKA AND KELLY WARREN IS A KANSAS STATE SENATOR WHO SERVES AS CHAIR OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE SHE'S AN ATTORNEY IN PRIVATE PRACTICE SHE LIVES IN LEEWARD NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS ALL ABOUT YOU REGARDLESS OF YOUR ADS CONSUMER ADVICE EXPERTS SAY THAT MUCH LIKE AN ACCOUNTANT OR CONTRACTOR YOU SHOULD APPROACH CHOOSING AN ATTORNEY WISELY WE'RE TOLD DON'T PICK ONE JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE THEIR AD ON TV FIND SOMEONE THAT'S TRUSTWORTHY AND MAKES YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE STARTING WITH YOU KELLY WARREN IN 60 SECONDS OR LESS WHAT CAN YOU SAY TO OUR AUDIENCE TO MAKE THEM COMFORTABLE YOU'RE THE RIGHT CHOICE TO BE THEIR CHAIRMAN OF THE ATTORNEY JUDICIARY COMMITTEE I HAVE HELPED LEAD THROUGH PASSAGE SOME OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL CONSERVATIVE LEGAL REFORMS IN KANSAS IN DECADES I HAVE HELPED PERFORM THE KANSAS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACT TO PUSH BACK ON THE GOVERNOR'S SCHOOL CLOSINGS AND BUSINESS CLOSINGS AGAIN I HAVE HELPED PUT VALUE THEM BOTH ON THE BALLOT AND I HAVE PUSHED BACK ON THE BUREAUCRATIC STATE AND THEIR OVERREACH AND MADE RULEMAKING AND POLICY MAKING PUT IT BACK WITH OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AS AN ATTORNEY WITH MORE THAN 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE I HAVE THE BREADTH AND DEPTH TO BE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHETHER THAT'S HANDLING CASES ON LAND USE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS PUSHING AGAINST CHINA WHEN THEY WERE SENDING CONTAMINATED HEPARIN TO THE UNITED STATES I AM BEST POSITIONED TO BE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO LEAD AND TO DEFEND THE LAWS THAT WE PASS HERE IN KANSAS AND TO STAND UP AND FIGHT AND WIN AGAINST THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TONY MATIVI GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE THANKS FOR COMING I AM THE ONLY CANDIDATE IN THIS RACE WHO HAS SPENT A CAREER AS A PROSECUTOR I'VE PROSECUTED CASES IN STATE COURT FEDERAL COURT AND MILITARY COURT CASES RANGING FROM SPEEDING TICKETS TO MURDERS DRUG CARTELS CHINESE SPIES DOMESTIC TERRORISTS WHO WANTED TO COMMIT ANOTHER OKLAHOMA CITY RIGHT HERE IN KANSAS AND A HIGH RANKING MEMBER OF AL QAEDA WHO KILLED 17 AMERICAN SAILORS IN AN ATTACK ON THE USS COLE THE KANSAS ATTORNEY GENERAL IS THE CHIEF LAW EN FORCEMENT OFFICIAL OF OUR STATE THE AG'S OFFICE HAS 12 DIVISIONS EACH OF WHICH TOUCHES IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ON INVESTIGATION OR PROSECUTION OR BOTH THE KANSAS BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION IS A COMPONENT OF THE AG'S OFFICE IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OF THIS STATE BEING A POLITICIAN THERE ARE TWO VERY CAPABLE PEOPLE STANDING ON THE STAGE WITH ME WHO FIT THAT BILL BUT IF YOU INSIST THAT YOUR CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL ACTUALLY BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL I AM THE ONLY CANDIDATE IN THE RACE WHO CAN SAY THAT KRIS KOBACH I DECIDED TO RUN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL THE DAY THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS SWORN INTO OFFICE ON THAT FIRST DAY HE ISSUED A DOZEN EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT WERE EITHER UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW OR BOTH AND BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES IN STANDING DOCTRINE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS THE OFFICIAL BEST POSITIONED TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTION IN WASHINGTON SOME STATES ARE FIGHTING BACK NOW BUT IT IS ALMOST ALWAYS TEXAS WHO IS LEADING THE CHARGE IF I'M YOUR ATTORNEY GENERAL KANSAS AND TEXAS WILL BE STANDING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA OF COMPLEX CIVIL LITIGATION I'VE ALREADY BROUGHT FOUR LAWSUITS AGAINST ADMINISTRATIONS IN DC THE MOST RECENT TWO ARE IN NOVEMBER I REPRESENTED NORTH DAKOTA EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES SUING TO STOP THE OSHA VACCINE MANDATE WE PREVAILED IN THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT AFTER OUR CASES WAS CONSOLIDATED WITH OTHERS ON JANUARY 13TH AND I'M CURRENTLY REPRESENTING 36 MEMBERS OF THE AIR FORCE WHO ARE SUING TO DEFEND AND ENFORCE THEIR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM TO SAY NO TO THE MANDATE IN ADDITION OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS I'VE BEEN THE LEAD ATTORNEY IN MORE THAN A DOZEN FEDERAL LAWSUITS IN COURTS ACROSS THE LAND WHEN YOU HIRE AN ATTORNEY YOU HIRE THE ONE WITH THE RIGHT EXPERIENCE WHICH I HAVE VERY MUCH INDEED LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME ISSUES THE NEXT ATTORNEY GENERAL TONY MATIVI MAY END UP WITH THE POWER TO PROSECUTE ABORTION CRIMES IF THE KANSAS LEGISLATURE BANS THE PROCEDURE IN YOUR LEGAL JUDGMENT DOES THAT MEAN PROSECUTING ONLY ABORTION PROVIDERS OR WOMEN WHO UNDERGO THE PROCEDURE AND THE CARERS AND FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HELP FUND AND HELP THEM THE NEXT ATTORNEY GENERAL IS THE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO BE STANDING AT THE PODIUM DEFENDING VALUE THEM BOTH WHEN VALUE THEM BOTH PASSES ON AUGUST 2ND I I SUPPORT IT I AM PRO-LIFE I AM A CONSERVATIVE CATHOLIC REPUBLICAN WHEN VALUE THEM BOTH PASSES ON AUGUST 2ND THAT'S JUST THE FIRST STEP THE PRO-ABORTION LOBBY THE ABORTION INDUSTRY IS GOING TO FILE SUIT PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS GOING TO SUE THE CENTER FOR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS EXISTS TO SUE IT'S OUR NEXT ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO'LL BE STANDING AT THE PODIUM DEFENDING THAT LAW IT'S THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S JOB IT'S PART OF WHAT I BELIEVE IN AS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN LAWYER WHETHER THE LAW PASSES SUCH THAT PROSECUTIONS TAKE PLACE OF PROVIDERS OR INDIVIDUALS IS UP TO THE LEGISLATURE NOT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S JOB IS NOT TO LEGISLATE IT'S NOT TO LEGISLATE BY LITIGATION IT IS TO ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT ARE PASSED BY THE KANSAS LEGISLATURE CHRIS KOBACH I WILL AGGRESSIVELY DEFEND VALUE THEM BOTH IN ANY PRO-LIFE LEGISLATION INDEED ALL STATUTES THAT OUR KANSAS LEGISLATURE PASSES INDEED I JUST RELEASED A FIVE-POINT PLAN AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO RESTORE OUR PRO-LIFE LAWS THAT WERE CAST INTO DOUBT AND THE ONE THAT WAS EXPRESSLY OVERTURNED BY THE KANSAS SUPREME COURT WHEN IT'S MADE ITS ERRONEOUS DECISION AS TO THE SPECIFIC QUESTION WHO YOU PROSECUTE OF COURSE DEPENDS ON THE STATUTE VERY FEW STATUTES PROVIDE FOR THE PROSECUTION OF THE THE MOTHER MOST PROVIDE FOR PROSECUTION OF THE DOCTOR OR OR OTHERWISE APPROACH THE PROBLEM UH WHEN WE PASS NEW PRO-LIFE LEGISLATION AFTER WE PASS THE VALUE THEN BOTH AMENDMENT ON AUGUST 2ND UH IT IS RIGHT THE ACLU AND PARENT PUT PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WILL SUE UH I THINK I'M THE ONLY ATTORNEY UP HERE WHICH THE ACL USES IN ORDER TO RAISE MONEY THEY SAY PLEASE HELP US STOP HIM IN COURT THEY KNOW ME THEY KNOW THAT I CAN BEAT THEM AND UH I INTEND TO BEAT THEM WHEN THIS LITIGATION OCCURS AND YOU NEED SOMEONE WHO'S GOT THAT EXPERIENCE KELLY WARREN I AM THE ONLY PERSON ON THIS STAGE WHO HAS DONE ANYTHING TO PUT THE PRO-LIFE VALUE THAN BOTH AMENDMENT ON YOUR BALLOT AND IT'S BECAUSE I FIGHT AND WIN TOUGH ELECTIONS AND LEAD ON CONSERVATIVE POLICY FOR KANSANS IN THE LEGISLATURE MR KOBACH LIKES TO TALK ABOUT HIS LEGAL EXPERIENCE LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE HE HAS LOST IN COURT TO THE ACLU WHEN HE WAS SECRETARY OF STATE DEFENDING THE STATE OF KANSAS AND WHEN HE LOST THAT COST THE TAXPAYERS 1.9 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE AWARD OF ATTORNEYS FEES THAT KANSAS HAS TO PAY FOR MR KOBACH LOSING THAT SUIT AND THEN THAT FEDERAL JUDGE THAT REPUBLICAN APPOINTED JUDGE ORDERED KRIS KOBACH TO TAKE LEGAL REMEDIAL EDUCATION CLASSES BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO INTRODUCE A DOCUMENT INTO EVIDENCE SO I THINK YOU KNOW JOE BIDEN HASN'T HAD A LOT OF GOOD NEWS LATELY BUT HIM HEARING THAT KRIS KOBACH WANTS TO LITIGATE AGAINST HIM THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST NEWS HE'S HAD IN A LONG TIME THANK YOU YOU EACH HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A BUT LET'S START WITH YOU KRIS KOBACH 30 SECONDS UM IN THAT LAWSUIT AS MS WARREN MAY NOT KNOW 42 USC 1988 ALLOWS THE PREVAILING PARTY IN A CIVIL RIGHTS CASE TO GET ATTORNEYS FEES HOWEVER IT IS NOT THE WINNER IN THE DISTRICT COURT THAT DETERMINES WHO GETS FEES IT'S THE WINNER IN THE COURT OF APPEALS MY OFFICE DID THE DISTRICT COURT THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL DID THE COURT OF APPEALS SO NO IT WAS NOT THE PARTY IN THE DISTRICT COURT AND FURTHERMORE EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY YOU SHOULD NOT BLAME THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THEY DREW A HOSTILE PANEL IN THAT CASE NO ONE SHOULD BE BLAMED WHEN YOU HAVE A HOSTILE PANEL YOU STILL ARGUE THE CASE IN THE HOPE THAT YOU CAN GET IT TO THE SUPREME COURT YOUR TIME IS UP TONY WHEN IT COMES TO LEGAL EXPERIENCE I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY IN THIS AUDIENCE WILL GO TO LEXIS AND RESEARCH THE THREE CANDIDATES WHAT YOU WILL FIND WHEN YOU DO THAT IS TONY MATIV HAS 459 CITATIONS TO HIS NAME KRIS KOBACH HAS 187 KELLY WARREN HAS 11.

NOT A SINGLE SIGNIFICANT LEGAL MATTER LITIGATED YOU HAVE THE LAST CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE FOR 30 SECONDS KELLY WARREN WELL THAT SHOWS WHY MY OPPONENTS CANNOT BE OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL THEY DON'T GET THE FACTS RIGHT YOU DON'T NEED MR MCTV'S LEXUS NEXUS INTERNET SEARCH SKILLS TO KNOW THAT KRIS KOBACH LOSES ELECTIONS AND HE LOSES IN THE COURTROOM I HAVE THE BREADTH AND DEPTH OF EXPERIENCE THAT IS REQUIRED IN THIS OFFICE IT IS A BROAD OFFICE THERE ARE 12 DIVISIONS AND IT'S REQUIRED OF OUR OFFICE AS ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT WE GET IT RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S A BIG POLICY DRIVEN OFFICE AND I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF LOOKING AT POLICY AS A STATE ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT WE NEED FOR OUR NEXT ATTORNEY GENERAL LET'S MOVE ON IT APPEARS THE U.S SENATE HAS REACHED A COMPROMISE ON A NEW PACKAGE TO CONTROL GUN VIOLENCE THE STATE OF MISSOURI HAS MADE IT CLEAR IT WILL NOT ALLOW LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO ENFORCE NEW FEDERAL GUN LAWS IF YOUR ELECTED ATTORNEY GENERAL KRIS KOBACH WOULD THAT BE YOUR LEGAL OPINION IN KANSAS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ABSOLUTELY HAS TO STEP FORWARD WHEN THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS OF THE STATE ARE INFRINGED UH THIS NEW LEGISLATION IN MY VIEW IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN PROBABLY TWO RESPECTS IF NOT MORE UM I WROTE THE KANSAS SECOND MEMBER PROTECTION ACT IN 2013 THE CRITICAL SECTIONS OF IT I WROTE THE SECTIONS OF SENATE OF HOUSE BILL 2058 UH LAST YEAR WHICH RESTORES THE RIGHTS OF KANSAS GUN OWNERS IF THERE IS AN EXPUNGEMENT OF THEIR PRIOR CRIME TO ONCE AGAIN HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS AND I HOPE ALL THE ATTORNEYS HERE TAKE NOTE OF THAT OUR EXPUNGEMENT LAWS AND THE ACCORDING LAWS RESTORING THE RIGHTS OF FIREARMS OWNERS ARE NOW STRONGER UH AND YOU CAN TAKE TAKE NOTE OF THAT FOR YOUR CLIENTS I'M THE ONLY ATTORNEY ON THE STAGE WHO'S ACTUALLY DEFENDED ON SECOND AMENDMENT GROUNDS THE RIGHTS OF A KANSAS CITIZEN TO POSSESS FIREARMS THAT EXPERIENCE IS GOING TO BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT HERE AND OF COURSE I TAUGHT SECOND AMENDMENT LAW AS A PROFESSOR OF CONSTITUTIONAL LAW I HAVE THE RIGHT BACKGROUND TO DO THIS KELLY WARREN WELL IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ENFORCE THE LAWS AS WRITTEN AND I HAVE HELPED INTRODUCE LEGISLATION TO PROTECT THE SECOND AMENDMENT SO THAT GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS WOULD NOT IMPINGE AND INFRINGE ON YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS IF THERE WERE A RETAILER WHOLESALER OF FIREARMS THAT WAS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE COULDN'T ADVANCE THAT SECOND AMENDMENT PROTECTION BILL THIS SESSION WHY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR WHO WOULD HAVE VETOED IT AND WHY DO WE HAVE THAT DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR IT'S BECAUSE MR KOBACH LOST THIS RACE IN 2018 TO THE DEMOCRAT THIS OFFICE IS LARGE AND IT'S IMPORTANT ON THE POLICY IT LEADS ON WHETHER IT'S ENERGY WHETHER IT'S EDUCATION WHETHER IT'S HEALTH CARE WHETHER IT'S REGULATION AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO HAS THE POLICY EXPERIENCE I HAVE THAT AS A SENATOR I HAVE TO VOTE ON ALL THOSE POLICIES AND LOOK AT ALL THOSE POLICIES TO LEAD THIS STATE IN WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THESE ISSUES SO IT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE THE BREADTH AND DEPTH OF LEGAL EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE AS WELL AS THE POLICY DECISION MAKING EXPERIENCE BUT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO TONY MATIBI WOULD YOU ENFORCE THOSE FEDERAL GUN LAWS IF THEY'RE PASSED BY CONGRESS WELL THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS DETERMINE IF THEY'RE CONSTITUTIONAL AND ONCE WE DETERMINE THAT YES THANK YOU TONY I TOO WOULD CHALLENGE THEIR CONSTITUTIONALITY AS A AS A FOUNDATIONAL UH ISSUE UH LOOK AS THE ONE THING I AGREE WITH SENATOR WARREN ON I DON'T THINK THIS IS JUST ABOUT LEGAL EXPERIENCE I ALSO THINK IT'S ABOUT LIFE EXPERIENCE AND AS THE FORMER PARAMEDIC WHO'S STANDING UP HERE ON THE STAGE AND MY OPPONENTS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG I BELIEVE I'M THE ONLY PERSON WHO'S EVER RESPONDED TO A 911 CALL OF A CHILD HAVING BEEN SHOT IT'S HEARTBREAKING OKAY AT THE SAME TIME YOU CAN BE PRO-SECOND AMENDMENT AND ANTI-MASS MURDER AND I THINK AS CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS WE HAVE TO BE WATCHFUL AND VIGILANT OF FOLKS WHO USE TRAGEDIES LIKE THIS TO TRY TO INFRINGE ON OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WE HAVE TO BE VIGILANT AGAINST THAT SORT OF OVERREACH SO YES I WOULD CHALLENGE THEM ON CONSTITUTIONAL GROUNDS I ON THE OTHER HAND THINK IT'S OKAY TO BE PRO-SECOND AMENDMENT AND ANTI-MASS MURDER AT THE SAME TIME OUR RULES ALLOW YOU 30 SECONDS TO REBUT STARTING WITH YOU KRIS KOBACH REGARDING MS WARREN'S COMMENT UH THE POLLS CURRENTLY SHOW ME BEATING THE DEMOCRAT IN THIS RACE UH BY A SIZABLE MARGIN WITH REGARD TO 2018 ANYBODY WHO FOLLOWS POLITICAL HISTORY KNOWS THAT 2018 WAS A BLOODBATH FOR REPUBLICANS WE LOST 33 SEATS IN THE U.S HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE OF THE LARGEST LOSSES IN U.S HISTORY IN EVERY SINGLE CLOSE GOVERNOR'S RACE EXCEPT ONE THE REPUBLICAN LOST THAT ONE WAS IN GEORGIA WITH BRIAN KEMP AND YET WE'RE TO TAKE ELECTION ADVICE FROM SOMEBODY WHO HAS ONLY WON AN ELECTION IN A TINY DISTRICT IN JOHNSON COUNTY AND THEY THINK THAT QUALIFIES THEM TO RUN STATEWIDE I'VE WON TWO OUT OF THREE OF STATEWIDE CAMPAIGNS AND YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND KELLY WARREN HE TALKS ABOUT A ITTY-BITTY TEENY SENATE DISTRICT WELL GUESS WHAT I WON MY EL ECTION HE LOST HIS AND YOU KNOW WHAT UM WE'VE SEEN HIM LEAD IN THE POLLS BEFORE MR KOBACH AND THEN HE LOSES ON ELECTION DAY AND AS CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT IN THIS REPUBLICAN PRIMARY AND NOMINATE THE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN WHO FIGHTS AND WINS MR MATIB YOU HAVE THE FINAL WORD ON THIS ELECTABILITY IS ABSOLUTELY AN ISSUE PART OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE AS REPUBLICANS IS THAT WE HAVE TWO REPUBLICAN PARTIES IN KANSAS RIGHT NOW THE ELECTABILITY ISSUE THAT SECRETARY KOBACH HAS IS HE HAS STRONG SUPPORT AMONG CONSERVATIVES BUT THE MODERATE WING WILL JUMP OVER AND VOTE FOR A DEMOCRATIC HAND-PICKED VERY LAURA KELLY-ESQUE A.G CANDIDATE WHAT SENATOR WARREN DOESN'T REALIZE IS SHE HAS THE VERY SAME ELECTABILITY ISSUE BECAUSE SHE'S TRYING TO OUT CONSERVATIVE THE CONSERVATIVE AND AT THE SAME TIME SHE ATTACKS ME FOR HAVING A BACKGROUND THAT IS YOUR TIME I KNOW YOU'LL FIND A WAY OF GETTING IT IN LATER WE RECEIVED DEBATE QUESTIONS BY THE WAY FROM MEMBERS OF THE JOHNSON COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION AND FROM KANSAS CITY PBS VIEWERS LIKE CARLA IN MERRIAM THIS QUESTION FIRST GOES TO YOU KELLY WARREN SHE ASKS WHY IS IT PERMISSIBLE TO BAN PEOPLE UNDER 21 YEARS OF AGE FROM PURCHASING BEER IN KANSAS YET IT IS UNLAWFUL TO BAN THOSE SAME PEOPLE FROM OWNING A GUN WOULD YOU SUPPORT REDUCING THE DRINKING AGE TO 18 SO IT MATCHES THE STATE'S GUN LAWS GUN LAWS ARE CREATED AND ARE LOOKED AT BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO THEM IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT SO IT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE BUT WE ARE KIND OF AT A CROSSROADS IF YOU WILL WHERE WE ALLOW SOME ADULTS AT 18 TO DO SOME THINGS AND SOME ADULTS ONLY AT 21 TO DO THEM WHEN IT COMES TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT AS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT WE HAVE TO BE VIGILANT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T BACKTRACK AND ERODE AND INFRINGE ON THOSE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS IF IT'S A POLICY THAT THE LEGISLATURE WANTS TO LOOK AT I WOULD BE THERE TO LEAD WITH THE COLLEAGUES THAT I HAVE IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE I AM THE CANDIDATE AND THE PERSON ON THIS STAGE WHO HAS THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WHO KNOWS HOW THAT WORKS WHO KNOWS HOW TO GET POLICY LOOKED AT AND WHO KNOWS HOW TO ADVANCE POLICY TO ENACTMENT SO I WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR LEGISLATURE AND MAKE SURE FIRST OF ALL THAT WE DON'T INFRINGE ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET THEM MORE ALIGNED WITH UH 18 YEAR OLDS THANK YOU VERY MUCH KRIS KOBACH I DON'T THINK SHE ANSWERED THE QUESTION BUT I WILL IF YOU'RE 18 AND YOU ARE REQUIRED TO GO TO WAR BY YOUR COUNTRY YOU ARE ENTITLED TO VOTE FOR YOUR COUNTRY YOU SHOULD ALSO BE ENTITLED TO CARRY A FIREARM AND YOU SHOULD ALSO BE ENTITLED TO DRINK AND BY THE WAY IT WASN'T THE LEGISLATURE OF KANSAS THAT CHANGED THE DRINKING AGE IT WAS IN 1983 AND IT WAS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT PASSED A LAW TAKING AWAY FIVE PERCENT OF HIGHWAY FUNDS FROM ANY STATE THAT DIDN'T RAISE IT TO 21.

OUR LEGISLATURE DIDN'T CHOOSE THAT EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY FOLDED EVEN HAWAII DO THEY HAVE INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS I DON'T THINK SO BUT THE POINT IS WE SHOULD NOT HAVE FOLDED AND IF THIS ISSUE COMES UP AGAIN WHICH IT PROBABLY WILL IF WE ASSERT OUR RIGHT AS CITIZENS OF OUR STATE I WILL FIGHT AND I WILL TRY TO DEFEAT TO OVERTURN SOUTH DAKOTA VERSUS DOLE IS A 6-3 DECISION CHALLENGING THE HIGHWAY FUNDS DEAL BACK IN 1983 I THINK WITH THIS SUPREME COURT WE CAN CHANGE IT AND BRING THE RIGHT BACK TO THE PEOPLE OF KANSAS TO DECIDE WHAT THE RIGHT AGE IS THAT'S THE FEDERALIST THING TO DO AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO TONY MATIVI DRINKING AND CARRYING A FIREARM ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS THERE'S A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO ONE AND THERE'S NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO THE OTHER I CAUTION YOU AGAINST FALLING INTO THE TRAP OF FOLKS WHO ARE 18 AND ABLE TO GO OFF THE WAR SHOULD HAVE ACCESS UNRESTRICTED TO FIREARMS BECAUSE THE MILITARY RESTRICTS ACCESS TO THOSE FIREARMS I HAVE A 22 YEAR OLD WHO'S IN THE MILITARY HE'S BEEN IN THERE FOR FOUR YEARS AND WHEN HE WAS 18 TO 21 YEARS OLD THE MILITARY DID REGULATE HIS BEHAVIOR AND DID REGULATE HIS ACCESS TO FIREARMS THAT ALL I'M CAUTIONING AGAINST IS FALLING PREY TO THAT ARGUMENT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A FALSE EQUIVALENCY AS REPUBLICANS WE NEED TO PUSH BACK AGAINST INFRINGEMENT OF ALL OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS INCLUDING OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND I AGREE WITH THE APPROACH THAT BRING ALL GOVERNANCE THAT YOU CAN BACK TO THE LOWEST LEVEL POSSIBLE THE RULES ALLOW YOU 30 SECONDS TO REBUT BUT HAVE YOU COVERED THAT OR DO YOU WANT US TO MOVE ON KELLY WARREN UH THANK YOU NICK I APPRECIATE THAT SURE I'LL MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS UM IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION AND OUR BILL OF RIGHTS WE SEE OVERREACH FROM THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION EVERY DAY WHETHER IT'S REGARDING OUR EDUCATION POLICY WHETHER IT'S REGARDING TAX POLICY AND CERTAINLY REGARDING ENERGY POLICY WE CAN SEE THAT AT EVERY GAS STATION ACROSS THE STATE OF KANSAS AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE AS REPUBLICANS NOMINATE THE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN WHO CAN WIN WE CANNOT AFFORD TO BE LOSING TO THE ACLU IN COURT AND COSTING TAXPAYERS DOLLARS THANK YOU KRIS KOBACH UM WELL I TOLD HER TOLD YOU THAT SHE DIDN'T GIVE AN ANSWER AND THE SECOND TIME AROUND SHE DIDN'T GIVE AN ANSWER EITHER EITHER EITHER THERE ARE A LOT OF POLITICIANS WHO WILL NOT ANSWER THE TOUGH QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE PLACED ON THE SPOT THEY DON'T WANT TO DEFEND THEIR POSITION I'M THE ONLY ONE UP HERE WHO TOLD YOU MY POSITION TONY SAID THERE'S A FALSE EQUIVALENCY I THINK THERE'S SOME MERIT IN THAT ARGUMENT THE POINT IS WHEN YOU'RE 18 YEARS OLD AND YOU CAN VOTE YOU CAN FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY YOU SHOULD HAVE ALL OF THE RIGHTS THAT OTHER CITIZENS ENJOY THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO TAKE A STAND AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEFEND THEIR POSITION ON THE STAND THE LAST WORD GOES TO YOU TONY MATATA I AM GOING TO AGREE WITH THE LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY THAT SOMETIMES TAKES PLACE AND I'M GOING TO AS A NEW CANDIDATE EXPRESS MY FRUSTRATION WITH THAT I'VE NEVER RUN FOR POLITICAL OFFICE BEFORE AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TRULY AMAZED ME ABOUT THIS PROCESS IS THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WILL STAND ON THIS STAGE AND TELL YOU WHAT THEY THINK YOU WANT TO HEAR AND NOT WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW AND I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THAT IS A VERY STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN THE ONE CAREER PROSECUTOR AND EXPERIENCED LITIGATOR IN THIS RACE AND THE TWO CAREER POLITICIANS THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEW TOPIC WHAT PERCENT OF THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S JOB SHOULD BE DEVOTED TO ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS AND IT STARTS WITH YOU TONY LOOK WE NEED STRONG BORDERS UH THERE ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO COME ACROSS OUR BORDER EVERY DAY WHO ARE TRYING TO HARM US AND ARE TRYING TO STEAL FROM US HOW MUCH OF OUR TIME SHOULD BE SPENT DOING THAT I THINK DEPENDS ON WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON IN THE OFFICE IF WE HAVE FIVE CAPITAL MURDER CASES IN THE STATE THAT THE AG'S OFFICE IS TRYING TO PROSECUTE AND WE'RE ARGUING WITH NEBRASKA OVER WATER RIGHTS AT THE SAME TIME AND WE'RE FILING A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IMMIGRATION IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE A LOWER PRIORITY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THE RACE IS THAT I HAVE HEARD BOTH OF MY OPPONENTS TALK ABOUT SENDING KANSAS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS OFFICERS TO THE BORDER TO PROTECT US FROM ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION I CHALLENGE THEM TO FIND A LAW ENFORCEMENT LEADER IN THIS STATE WHO FEELS LIKE THEY HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES IN THEIR COMMUNITY THAT THEY CAN SEND OFFICERS TO THE BORDER AND NOT KEEP THEIR COMMUNITY OR NOT MAKE THEIR COMMUNITY LESS SAFE WE HAVE TO BE FOCUSED ON PROTECTING KANSANS KEEPING KANSANS SAFE AND WINNING IN LITIGATION IN COURT THAT AFFECTS KANSANS HOW ABOUT YOU KELLY WARREN WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE YOUR TIME AS ATTORNEY GENERAL WOULD YOU BE SPENDING ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS AS CHIEF LEGAL ADVOCATE OF THE STATE I WILL BE BUSY A LOT AND ONE OF THE AREAS IS BORDER AND LOOKING AT THE IMMIGRATION LAWS THAT WE HAVE I HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT AS AN ELECTED STATE OFFICIAL I HAVE HELPED LEAD TO PASSAGE A BILL THAT WOULD BAN SANCTUARY CITIES IN THE STATE OF KANSAS NO LOCAL GOVERNMENT COULD ORDER THEIR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO STAND DOWN AND NOT ENFORCE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW SO AS ATTORNEY GENERAL I WILL BE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT THE PERCENTAGE THAT YOU ASKED FOR WELL YOU KNOW IF BIDEN WOULD STEP UP AND DO WHAT HIS JOB IS AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SPEND SO MUCH TIME HERE IN THE STATE OF KANSAS LOOKING AT THAT SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY IT DEPENDS YOU KNOW THE JOB WOULD START IN JANUARY AND SEE WHERE WE ARE WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE WITH REGARDING GOVERNMENT OVERREACH THAT I HAVE A RECORD OF STANDING AND FIGHTING AGAINST STANDING UP FOR OUR RIGHTS AND TAKING A LOOK AT IMMIGRATION LAW TOO SO I WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE WE SURE WE ENFORCE THAT NEW LAW AND A PERCENTAGE IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY WE YOU CAN'T PREDICT AT THIS TIME DID YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE IN MIND CHRIS COPELAND YEAH I THINK IT'S LIKELY TO BE AROUND 25 PERCENT THE REASON IS SOME OF OUR DEFENSE OF STATE LAWS WILL BE IMMIGRATION RELATED SOME OF OUR OFFENSE ON THE BY ADMINISTRATION WILL BE IMMIGRATION RELATED I HAVE ALREADY TWO FEDERAL CASES THAT I HAVE COMPLETED OR ONE STILL IN PROCESS I REPRESENTED THE TEN ICE AGENTS WHO SUED TO STOP THE DACA AMNESTY OF PRESIDENT OBAMA IN 2012 AND I'M CURRENTLY REPRESENTING SEVEN TEXAS COUNTIES AND SHERIFFS IN A SIMILAR IMMIGRATION RELATED LAWSUIT IN FEDERAL COURT I'VE ARGUED THESE ISSUES IN THE FIFTH CIRCUIT EIGHTH CIRCUIT NINTH TENTH AND DC CIRCUITS UH WE ALSO HAVE TO BE WILLING TO USE STATE LAWS TO TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION THE U.S SUPREME COURT IN KANSAS VERSUS GARCIA OPENED THE DOOR TO THAT AND SAID ABSOLUTELY IF YOU WANT TO ENFORCE YOUR LAWS AGAINST UH IDENTITY THEFT AND THE LIKE YOU CAN I SPECIFICALLY WILL POST THE LET PUSH THE LEGISLATURE TO PASS E-VERIFY WHICH OTHER STATES HAVE DONE AND I HAVE HELPED THOSE OTHER STATES DO I'M ASKING SENATOR WARREN IF SHE'LL SUPPORT IT I DOUBT SHE WILL AND AS FAR AS HER SANCTUARY CITY BILL WE POST PASSED THE MOST ANEMIC WEAK TOOTHLESS SANCTUARY CITY BILL THIS PAST YEAR IN THE LEGISLATURE I HAVE WRITTEN AND ARGUED FOR SERIOUS ONES IN THE PAST BUT THE LEGISLATURE HAS YET TO PASS THEM I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO IN YOUR REBUTTAL TONY MATIVI WOULD YOU LIKE TO INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF TIME YOU WOULD SPEND NOW THAT KRIS KOBACH SAID 25 PERCENT WELL UH IS THIS PRICE IS RIGHT NO I'M NOT I'M NOT GOING TO INCREASE IT LET ME JUST POINT THIS OUT FOR CONTEXT THE AG'S OFFICE HAS 12 DIVISIONS CRIMINAL LITIGATION CIVIL LITIGATION CONSUMER PROTECTION CRIME VICTIMS COMPENSATION FRAUD AND ABUSE MEDICAID FRAUD AND ABUSE MEDICAID INSPECTOR GENERAL VICTIM SERVICES LEGAL OPINIONS AND GOVERNMENT COUNCIL THE KANSAS BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION THE ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISION AND THE SOLICITORS DIVISION ANY ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO'S PAYING ATTENTION TO RUNNING THAT ENTIRE OFFICE IF HE THINKS HE CAN SPEND TWENTY PERCENT THANK YOU WE'RE GONNA GET BACK INTO THIS UH KELLY WARREN YOUR REBUTTAL THANK YOU REGARDING THE SANCTUARY CITY BILL THAT WE WORKED WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO BROUGHT THAT OVER TO THE LEGISLATURE AND THE CLAIM THAT IT DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH WELL YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVE A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR WHO WOULD HAVE VETOED ANYTHING ELSE AND WHY DO WE HAVE THAT LIBERAL DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR WHO WOULD HAVE VETOED ANYTHING ELSE IT'S BECAUSE OF ONE PERSON STANDING ON THIS STAGE AND I'LL GIVE YOU A HINT IT'S NOT ME AS FAR AS IN COURT THE LAST THING THAT KANSANS NEED IS MR KOBACH STANDING AT THE PODIUM DEFENDING THE STATE OF KANSAS HE HAS LOST DOING THAT AS SECRETARY THANK YOU KRIS KOBACH THE FINAL BOARD TO YOU YEAH I ASKED HER WOULD YOU SUPPORT THE E-VERIFY BILL DID YOU NOTICE SHE DODGED THE QUESTION AGAIN A SIMPLE YES OR NO COULD DO I'LL TELL YOU SHE'S NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT HE VERIFIES THE ONE STATE LAW ACROSS THIS COUNTRY THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN REDUCING ILLEGAL WORKFORCE IN THE LABOR MARKET SHE WON'T PASS IT BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO WRITE HER CHECKS WON'T LET HER VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT AS FAR AS THE SANCTUARY CITY BILL AND STANDING UP IN COURT LOOK I HAVE FOUGHT THE ACLU PROBABLY MORE THAN ANYONE ON THIS STAGE YOU DON'T ALWAYS WIN IN THESE HIGHLY CHARGED CASES OFTENTIMES THE IDENTITY OF THE JUDGE MAKES MORE DIFFERENCE THAN THE QUALITY OF THE ARGUMENT I THINK EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE HAVE A LOT OF JUDGES IN THE ROOM BECAUSE WE'RE WITH THE BAR ASSOCIATION HERE AT THE DOUBLETREE HOTEL THE NEXT QUESTION GOES TO YOU FIRST KRIS KOBACH YOU RECENTLY STATED BY THE WAY THAT IF ELECTED ATTORNEY GENERAL YOU WILL QUOTE WAKE UP EVERY MORNING HAVING MY BREAKFAST THINKING ABOUT WHAT OUR NEXT LAWSUIT AGAINST JOE BIDEN IS GOING TO BE WHICH FEDERAL LAW RULE OR EXECUTIVE ACTION WOULD YOU SEEK TO OVERTURN FIRST UM I CAN GIVE YOU ONE THAT WAS PASSED UH THAT WAS ANNOUNCED JUST A WEEK AND A HALF AGO BY THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HOPEFULLY SOME OTHER ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL STEP FORWARD AND CHALLENGE IT BUT AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD BIDEN'S DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE FEDERAL SCHOOL LUNCH MONIES AND HOLD THAT HOSTAGE TO ANY STATE THAT DID NOT ADOPT TRANS FEM TRANS FRIENDLY BATHROOMS IN THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOLS SO NO FEDERAL SCHOOL LUNCH MONEY THAT IS A HUGE POINT OF LEVERAGE AND THAT TAKES THAT OUT OF THE STATE THE HANDS OF THE STATE LEGISLATURES I BELIEVE THAT IS A VIOLATION IT IS AN ACCESSION OF THE UH FEDERAL SPENDING POWER UNDER ARTICLE 1 SECTION 8 OF THE CONSTITUTION WE NEED TO BRING THAT LAWSUIT I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO BRING THAT LAWSUIT SO TH AT'S ONE THAT I SEE RIGHT NOW IF IT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT WHEN I BECOME ATTORNEY GENERAL WE'LL BRING IT TONY MATIVI I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT THE ONE THING I WILL NOT AS ATTORNEY GENERAL WAKE UP AND HAVE BREAKFAST THINKING ABOUT IS HOW TO SUE JOE BIDEN UH THIS OFFICE HOW ABOUT LUNCH OR DINNER THE 12 DIVISIONS IN THIS OFFICE ARE FAR TOO IMPORTANT KEEPING KANSAS SAFE IS FAR TOO IMPORTANT MAKING SURE OUR SHERIFFS AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO KEEP US SAFE AND DIG OUT OF COVID IS FAR TOO IMPORTANT IF YOU WANTED TO ASK ME TO ABOUT ONE THING I WOULD PUSH BACK ON THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ABOUT IT WOULD BE THE EVICTION MORATORIUM AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND A LANDLORD I RECOGNIZE I WAS AS FRUSTRATED AS EVERYBODY ELSE IN AMERICA WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAID YOU MAY NOT KICK OUT A DEADBEAT TENANT EVEN IF YOU DEPEND ON THAT INCOME TO FEED YOUR FAMILY AND THEN ADMITTED IN THE SAME BREATH THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT THAT I WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE WILLING TO PUSH BACK ON THAT BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO WAKE UP THINKING ABOUT IS HOW WE KEEP KANSANS SAFE KELLY WARREN WELL WE NEED TO REMIND KANSANS WHEN MR KOBACH TALKS ABOUT WHAT HE WAKES UP AND WANTS TO DO THAT HIS RECORD IS THAT HE WAKES UP AND HE LOSES TO A DEMOCRAT IN HIS U.S CONGRESSIONAL RACE HE WAKES UP AND LOSES HIS STATE SENATE RACE HE WAKES UP AND LOSES HIS GOVERNOR'S RACE AND HE WAKES UP AND LOSES HIS U.S SENATE RACE SO AS REPUBLICANS WE CANNOT AFFORD TO NOMINATE A REPUBLICAN WHO LOSES TO DEMOCRATS AS FAR AS WHAT POLICY I WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD THE U.S ATTORNEY GENERAL ALONG WITH THE EPA CREATED THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE THAT'S JUST ABOUT MORE CONTROL OVER HOW WE RUN OUR BUSINESSES HOW WE USE OUR LAND HERE IN KANSAS AND IT'S JUST AGAIN AN OVERREACH OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT I AM THE PERSON ON THIS STAGE WHO HAS EXPERIENCE GETTING LAWS ENACTED FOR YOU FOR KANSANS PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IN SPECIAL SESSION WE GOT ENACTED A BILL THAT IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO TAKE THE FEDERALLY GOVERNMENT MANDATED COBIN 19 VACCINE IN ORDER TO KEEP YOUR JOB YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO AND I GOT THAT DONE THEY CAN TALK THE TALK BUT I WALK THANK YOU VERY MUCH KRIS KOBACH 30 SECONDS TO REBUT I DON'T THINK YOU DO WALK THE WALK ONCE AGAIN YOU FAILED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU SAID I DON'T LIKE THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE THAT'S NOT A POLICY THAT'S NOT A REGULATION YOU FAILED TO GIVE US A STATUTE OR REGULATION THAT YOU WOULD CHALLENGE THERE ARE ONLY TWO ATTORNEYS ON THE STAGE WHO HAVE EVER BEEN IN FEDERAL COURT ONE HAS NEVER ARGUED CASE IN FEDERAL COURT YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU CAN ACHIEVE WHEN YOU CANNOT ACHIEVE SOMETIMES THE COURT YOU'RE IN MAY DEFINE THE LIMITS OF WHAT YOU CAN ACHIEVE BUT YOU MUST NOT BE AFRAID TO GO TO COURT AND YOU MUST KNOW THE ISSUES TO BE ABLE TO DO IT COMPETENTLY TONY MATIVI I WILL LEAN BACK AND LET THESE TWO SLUG IT OUT OVER LEGISLATIVE ISSUES JUST TO POINT OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND THEM IS IN THAT I AM NOT GOING TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO LEGISLATE I'M NOT GOING THERE TO LITIGATE INTO LEGISLATION I'M GOING THERE TO RUN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE THE ENTIRE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO HELP KEEP OUR STATE SAFE AND TO WIN IN LITIGATION WHEN WE CAN'T RESOLVE CASES AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS AND THE FINAL WORD GOES TO YOU KELLY WARREN WELL ONCE AGAIN IT'S WHY MR KOBACH CANNOT BE OUR NOMINEE HE GETS THE FACTS WRONG JUST YESTERDAY AS A MATTER OF FACT OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL PUSHED BACK AGAINST BIDEN AND HIS ENERGY POLICY AND WANTING TO CHANGE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT'S PART OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S JOB AS WELL LOOK AT POLICY AND STAND UP AND FIGHT AGAINST IT AND HE'S WRONG AGAIN TOO I HAVE BEEN IN FEDERAL COURT SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A COMPETENT LEGAL ATTORNEY WHO DOESN'T GET SANCTIONED BY FEDERAL COURTS WHICH I SURE NEVER HAVE BEEN SANCTIONED BY A FEDERAL COURT AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CHOOSE AS OUR NOMINEE THE ONE WHO CAN WIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND AS YOU POINT OUT THAT CURRENT ATTORNEY GENERAL DEREK SCHMIDT NOW RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR HE'S COMING INTO US VIA ZOOM TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH US BUT HE'S NOW IN A DIFFERENT RACE THIS IS A ONE OF YOU OR A DEMOCRAT THIS FALL IS GOING TO BE ELECTED ATTORNEY GENERAL BUT KELLY WARREN IF YOU HAD BEEN KANSAS ATTORNEY GENERAL AT THE TIME WOULD YOU HAVE JOINED THE TEXAS LAWSUIT CHALLENGING THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AS CURRENT ATTORNEY GENERAL DEREK SCHMIDT DID YOU KNOW THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS TO LOOK AT IN THAT 2020 ELECTION WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT THERE WERE STATES THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE ELECTION SECURITY THAT WE DO HAVE HERE IN KANSAS WE SAW THAT IN WISCONSIN AND PENNSYLVANIA AND MICHIGAN AND AS AN ELECTED STATEWIDE LEVEL OFFICIAL THAT I HAVE BEEN IN THE LEGISLATURE WE HAVE HELPED SECURE OUR ELECTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE HUGE AMOUNT OF BALLOT HARVESTING THAT SOME OTHER STATES SAW SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO ENACT THESE TYPES OF POLICIES TO KEEP OUR DEMOCRACY STRONG WHETHER I WOULD JOIN THAT LAWSUIT IT WAS A DIFFICULT LAWSUIT AND THE ARGUMENTS WERE TO BE MADE AND IT WAS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AND IF I WERE KANSAS ATTORNEY GENERAL I THINK I WOULD HAVE JOINED THAT AS WELL OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL CHOSE THAT THAT WAS THE RIGHT POLICY TO FOLLOW AND HIS EXPERIENCE AS A SENATOR HAS SERVED HIM WELL IN THAT ROLE IN CHOOSING TO JOIN THAT LAWSUIT WHAT ABOUT YOU MR MATIBI YEAH THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES WITH A QUALIFIER LOOK I'M NOT RUNNING TO BE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF TEXAS AND PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS OF TEXAS IS NOT MY JOB AS THE KANSAS ATTORNEY GENERAL WHETHER I WOULD JOIN THAT LAWSUIT OR NOT WOULD HAVE BEEN BASED ON WHAT IMPACT IT HAS ON KANSAS AND WHETHER IT PROTECTS KANSANS FOR US TO BE INVOLVED UH IN I'VE HAD I'VE LOOKED AT IT I AGREE WITH DERRICK I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION KRIS KOBACH I DRAFTED THAT LAWSUIT THAT LAWSUIT WAS WRITTEN BY FIVE ATTORNEYS OF WHICH I WAS ONE WE THEN CIRCULATED IT AMONG REPUBLICAN ATTORNEYS GENERAL ONLY ONE ATTORNEY GENERAL KEN PAXTON OF TEXAS TOOK THAT LAWSUIT AND RAN WITH IT KANSAS DID NOT JOIN TEXAS IN THE SUIT KANSAS AND A FEW OTHER STATES CAME IN A DAY LATER AND SAID OH ME TOO WE'D LIKE TO FILE AN AMICUS BRIEF THERE WAS ONLY ONE STATE THAT MOVED FORWARD AND I DON'T THINK MY OPPONENTS ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE SUIT WAS ABOUT IT WAS ABOUT THE PROVISION IN ARTICLE 2 OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT SAYS ONLY THE STATE LEGISLATURE CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS TO HOW YOU SELECT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTORS FOUR OF THE STATES PENNSYLVANIA MICHIGAN GEORGIA AND AND WISCONSIN MADE NON-LEGISLATIVE CHANGES TO HOW THEIR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTORS WERE RESELECTED THE SUIT WAS NOT ABOUT FRAUD THE SUIT WAS ABOUT UNCONSTITUTIONAL CHANGES TO HOW YOU SELECT ELECTORS THE CASE WENT STRAIGHT TO THE SUPREME COURT RUSH LIMBAUGH SPENT THE ENTIRE PROGRAM TALKING ABOUT IT THE DAY WE ANNOUNCED IT SOME STATES CAME IN A DAY LATER BUT THE QUESTION IS DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DRAFT THAT SUIT DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS AND DO YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO TAKE IT TO COURT THANK YOU KELLY WARREN WELL IT'S INTERESTING TO KNOW THAT MR KOBACH DRAFTED THE LAWSUIT THE LAWSUIT EVENTUALLY WAS UNSUCCESSFUL IN COURT WHICH IS AGAIN ANOTHER REASON WHY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NOMINATE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL CANDIDATE FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHO HAS THE LEGAL EXPERIENCE AND THE POLICY MAKING EXPERIENCE TO GET THINGS DONE IT'S AN IMPORTANT OFFICE YOU'RE THE CHIEF LEGAL ADVOCATE FOR THE STATE PART OF THE JOB IS ASSISTING OUR COUNTIES IN CRIMINAL PROSECUTION AND THE REST IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TOO YOUR 30-SECOND REBUTTAL TONY IT WON'T TA KE THAT LONG LOOK MY DECISIONS AS ATTORNEY GENERAL ARE NOT GOING TO BE MADE BASED ON WHAT GETS ME ON RUSH LIMBAUGH OR WHAT GETS ME ON FOX NEWS THEY'RE GOING TO BE BASED ON WHAT'S BEST FOR THE STATE OF KANSAS THANK YOU KRIS KOBACH YEAH UNSUCCESSFUL IN COURT UH TWO JUSTICES OF THE SUPREME COURT SAID WE MUST TAKE THE CASE ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION ARTICLE THREE THE OTHER SEVEN IN A PROCURIUM OPINION SIMPLY SAID TEXAS DOESN'T HAVE STANDING OF COURSE TEXAS HAD STANDING BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WHAT IS SHE SAYING SHE'S SAYING IF THERE'S A CHANCE YOU MAY LOSE IN COURT DON'T TAKE THE SUIT WELL I WILL ALWAYS TAKE THE SUIT WHETHER IT'S DEFENDING KANSAS LAWS OR DEFENDING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS I WILL NOT BE AN ATTORNEY GENERAL LIKE HER WHO DECIDES WHETHER SHE HAS A CHANCE OF WINNING OR NOT IF IT IS RIGHT AND IF IT IS CONSTITUTIONAL YOU GO TO COURT THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF HOT BUTTON ISSUES HERE BUT THERE'S A LOT TO THIS OFFICE CALLED ATTORNEY GENERAL IN KANSAS STARTING WITH YOU TONY WE'RE TOLD FROM NATIONAL POLLS THAT RISING PRICES IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN ON AMERICANS MINDS THIS ELECTION YEAR WITH A LARGE CONSUMER PROTECTION DIVISION IN THE AG'S OFFICE WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO MAKE SURE KANSAS RESIDENTS ARE NOT BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AT THE GAS PUMP GROCERY STORE AND FROM IN-PERSON AND ONLINE SERVICE PROVIDERS CONSUMER PROTECTION IS A HUGE PART OF WHAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL DOES AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I'M UNWILLING TO SAY THAT IMMIGRATION WOULD MAKE UP SUCH A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THE AG DOES RIGHT NOW THE THE CITIZENS ARE SCARED PEOPLE ARE PAYING TOO MUCH MONEY FOR FIT FOR GOODS THAT YOU KNOW WEREN'T COSTING US VERY MUCH JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO OR WEEKS AGO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS A ROLE WITH REGARD TO CONSUMER PROTECTION MAKING SURE THAT CASES THAT ARE BROUGHT TO HIM OR HER ARE PROSECUTED APPROPRIATELY AN D PROTECTING KANSAS CONSUMERS IT'S A BIG PART OF THE JOB AND I PLAN TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME ON IT AS NECESSARY KRIS KOBACH ABSOLUTELY CONSUMER PROTECTION IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY AND IT WILL NOT DIMINISH ONE IOTA WHEN I'M ATTORNEY GENERAL HOWEVER WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THE REASON EVERYTHING IS MORE EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UKRAINE IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE RESTRICTION ON THE PRODUCTION OF FOSSIL FUELS THE PRICE OF GAS GOING UP CAUSES EVERYTHING ELSE TO GO UP AND THERE IS A ROLE FOR STATE ATTORNEYS GENERAL TO PLAY AND IT IS A LITIGATION ROLE TEXAS FOR EXAMPLE UH BROUGHT ONE OF THE LAWSUITS ON THE RESTRICTION OF DRILLING ON FEDERAL LANDS I BELIEVE IT WAS WEST VIRGINIA THAT BROUGHT MAYBE LOUISIANA THAT BROUGHT THE LAWSUIT ON THE KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE BEING SHUT DOWN BOTH OF THOSE WERE CONTRARY TO FEDERAL STATUTE I BELIEVE THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION AFTER THEY LOSE IN NOVEMBER IS GOING TO BE EVEN MORE BENT ON TAKING DOWN THE USE OF FOSSIL FUELS IN AMERICA THEY'VE ALL THEY'RE ALREADY THREATENING TO MAKE THE PRAIRIE CHICKEN BACK ON THE THREATENED SPECIES LIST WHY DOES THAT MATTER BECAUSE THAT STOPS DRILLING IN WESTERN KANSAS I WILL BE VIGILANT AND WILL DO EVERYTHING WITHIN MY POWER TO ENSURE THAT WE EXPLOIT OUR FOSSIL FUELS IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY AND WE DRIVE DOWN PRICES KELLY WARREN THE CONSUMER PROTECTION DIVISION OF THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS A BIG ROLE TO PLAY AND I HAVE HELPED THAT DIVISION AS WELL AS A STATE ATTORNEY AND SAY EXCUSE ME STATE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN I HAVE ENACTED LAWS THAT WOULD HELP PROTECT OUR CONSUMERS HERE IN KANSAS WHETHER IT'S DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING THAT WE SEE THAT OFTEN LEADS OUR MOST ELDERLY KANSANS TO TOP STOP TAKING THEIR PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS OR STOP USING THAT MEDIC MEDICAL DEVICE THAT THEIR DOCTOR HAS PRESCRIBED BECAUSE THEY SEE A DECEPTIVE AD ON TV OR WHETHER IT'S LOOKING AT THE UH PHARMACY BENEFITS MANAGERS ACROSS THE STATE AND THERE ARE SOME UNSCRUPULOUS ACTORS IN THAT REGARD AND WE HELPED PASS LAW THAT WOULD HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP OUR PHARMACY PRICES IN CHECK AS WELL SO AS THE CHIEF LEGAL ADVOCATE OF THE STATE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS POLICY EXPERIENCE IN MY 25 YEARS AS A LEGAL PRACTICING ATTORNEY I HAVE EXPERIENCE DEFENDING KANSANS LIKE YOU ON THEIR CONSUMER PROTECTION ACT CASES AS WELL YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS TO RESPOND TONY THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF POLITICIANS TELLING YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR INSTEAD OF WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BOTH OF MY OPPONENTS AND HAVE ADVOCATED FOR CREATING A NEW DIVISION WITHIN THE AG'S OFFICE DEDICATED TO AFFIRMATIVE LAWSUITS AGAINST THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION UNLESS THEY ARE AT THE SAME TIME PROPOSING TAX INCREASES WHICH I WOULD NEVER FAVOR AS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN THEY ARE BY NECESSITY BY MATH THEY'RE TAKING RESOURCES AWAY FROM THE OTHER DIVISIONS IN THE OFFICE INCLUDING NOT JUST CRIMINAL BUT CONSUMER PROTECTION AS WELL MR KOBACH I'M GOING TO USE THIS REBUTTAL TO REBUT SOMETHING MS WARREN SAID EARLIER SHE SAID SHE DOES HAVE EXPERIENCE IN FEDERAL COURT SHE JUST TOLD YOU THAT SHE HAS EXPERIENCE ARGUING CASES I GUESS IN FEDERAL COURT IN APRIL SHE TOLD THE DOUGLAS COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT SHE HAD NOT EVER ARGUED A CASE IN FEDERAL COURT WE HAVE THAT ON TAPE SO EITHER SHE'S LYING TO THEM OR SHE'S LYING TO YOU AND I'LL AGREE TONY SHE'S TELLING THE AUDIENCE WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHICH ONE OF THOSE IS RIGHT AND IF YOU HAVE ARGUED THE CASE WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE CASE PLEASE AND YOU HAVE THE LAST CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THAT THANK YOU MR MATIVI TELLS YOU THAT DON'T JUST LISTEN DON'T JUST TELL US WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR BUT WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW HE CALLS HIMSELF A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN BUT HE HAS NO RECORD OF CONCERNING OF SUPPORTING CONSERVATIVE POLICIES THE RECORD THAT HE DOES HAS HAVE IS HE ASKS CAMPAIGN FUNDRAISING TO BE DONE BY PERSONS WHO VOTE NO ON VALUE THAN BOTH AND PERSONS WHO ARE REPUBLICANS BUT THEY SUPPORT THE DEMOCRAT FOR U.S SENATE OVER ROGER MARSHALL AND THEY SUPPORT DEMOCRAT LAURA KELLY WHO IS NOW RUNNING FOR HER SECOND TIME FOR GOVERNOR THANK YOU SO MUCH 20 STATE ATTORNEYS UH 20 STATE ATTORNEY GENERALS RECENTLY WROTE A LETTER TO THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT IN WASHINGTON SAYING THEY OPPOSE TEACHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN CLASSROOMS KRIS KOBACH WHAT ROLE IF ANY SHOULD THE KANSAS ATTORNEY GENERAL PLAY IN CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION IN DISTRICTS GOVERNED BY LOCALLY ELECTED SCHOOL BOARDS WELL THE THE ROLE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE WOULD BE IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IMPOSED SOME SORT OF MANDATE PROBABLY USING LEVERAGE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION MONIES OR SCHOOL LUNCH MONIES TO TRY TO FORCE BLACKMAIL COERCE UH SCHOOL DISTRICTS INTO TEACHING IT SO IT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY ATTORNEY GENERAL TO SAY YOU KNOW CRT IS IS IS GOING TO BE STOPPED IN KANSAS BECAUSE I WANT IT TO BE THE QUESTION IS YOU DEFEND THE RIGHT OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE WHICH I THINK SHOULD RESTRICT CRT IN OUR CLASSES THAT IS NOT AN ACCURATE VIEW OF AMERICAN HISTORY AND WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO PUSH IDEOLOGICAL CONTENT INTO OUR SCHOOLS OUR SCHOOLS SHOULD NOT TEACH PEOPLE TO BE CONSERVATIVE OR TO BE LIBERAL OUR SCHOOLS SHOULD TEACH PEOPLE HISTORY ACCURATE HISTORY AND READING WRITING AND ARITHMETIC THIS DOES NOT BELONG IN OUR SCHOOL SO IF I PLAY A ROLE IT WILL BE IN DEFENDING AGAINST ANY FEDERAL ACTION THAT TRIES TO MANDATE IT IN KANSAS SCHOOLS MS WARREN YES THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL DOES HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN FIGHTING AGAINST CRITICAL RACE THEORY IT'S INDOCTRINATION OF OUR CHILDREN AS A MOTHER OF FOUR THREE OF THEM YOUNG ENOUGH TO STILL BE IN K-12 SCHOOLS I SEE IT EVERY DAY AND WE HAVE TO BE VIGILANT AGAINST IT AS A STATE SENATOR AND CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE I AM THE PERSON ON THIS STAGE WHO HAS ACTUALLY HAD TO VOTE ON THAT AND TRY TO GET THAT PASSED AGAIN IT WAS VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR AND WE COULD NOT GET PROTECTION FOR OUR SCHOOL CHILDREN AGAINST CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN KANSAS BECAUSE WE HAVE A 2018 LOSS AS REPUBLICANS TO A DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE NOMINATE THE PERSON WHO CAN WIN IN NOVEMBER AS FAR AS CRITICAL RACE THEORY IT'S YOU KNOW WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT WE NEED TO STOP THAT AND I WOULD LEAD THE LEGISLATURE TO PASSAGE OF THAT CRITICAL RACE THEORY BAN THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND YOU KNOW WHAT NOT ALL REPUBLICANS VOTED FOR THAT SO THE TYPE OF REPUBLICAN YOU SELECT TO BE YOUR NOMINEE MATTERS NOT ONE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN WHO LOSES OR JUST SOMEONE WHO TELLS YOU THEY'RE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN BUT YOU DON'T KNOW TONY SO LOOK PERSONALLY I'M OPPOSED THE IDEA OF CRITICAL RACE THEORY BUT I'M NOT RUNNING FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL TO FURTHER MY PERSONAL POLITICAL AGENDA I'M RUNNING FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF THE STATE OF KANSAS I'M NOT GOING IN THERE TO BE AN IDEOLOGUE BUT I AM GOING IN THERE TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF OUR CITIZENS AND I AGREE THAT THAT'S THE WAY YOU GO AFTER AN ISSUE LIKE THAT BUT LET ME USE THIS TIME TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT SENATOR WARREN SAID SENATOR WARREN HAS THE SAME ELECTABILITY ISSUE THAT SHE CRITICIZES SECRETARY KOBACH FOR AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS SHE IS TRYING TO OUT CONSERVATIVE THE CONSERVATIVE IN THE RACE I AM AN UNAPOLOGETIC CONSERVATIVE BUT AT THE SAME TIME I HAVE THE RESUME AND I HAVE THE BACKGROUND THAT CUTS ACROSS IDEOLOGUES AND IDEOLOGICAL GUIDELINES AND IT IT DRAWS SUPPORT FROM CONSERVATIVES IT DRAWS SUPPORT FROM MODERATES IT'LL EVEN DRAW SUPPORT FROM THE OTHER SIDE WHEN WE GET TO THE GENERAL ELECTION I AM THE ONE CANDIDATE ON THIS RACE WHO CAN RUN WELL AGAINST THE HAND-PICKED DEMOCRATIC AG CANDIDATE IN A WAY THAT NEITHER OF MY OPPONENTS CAN CHRIS KOBACH YOUR 30-SECOND REBUTTAL UM MORE THAN JUST URGING PEOPLE TO STOP CRITICAL RACE THEORY I'VE ACTUALLY DRAFTED A BILL PERSONALLY MYSELF WITH MY OWN KEYBOARD AND THAT BILL IS FOUND AT THE ALLIANCE FOR FREE CITIZENS WEBSITE PORTIONS OF THAT BILL WERE INCORPORATED INTO A BILL THAT WAS IN THE KANSAS LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR YOU HAVE TO KNOW I TAUGHT LEGISLATION IN LAW SCHOOL AND MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO WRITE LEGISLATION IN A WAY THAT CAN STAND UP IN COURT I HAVE DONE THAT AND SO WE WILL PUSH A C AN ANTI-CRT BILL AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT STANDS UP IN COURT THANK YOU VERY MUCH KELLY WARREN AGAIN IT'S ONE THING TO TALK THE TALK BUT YOU HAVE TO WALK THE WALK I HAVE BEEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL REPRESENTING KANSANS AND THE POLICIES THEY CARE ABOUT AND HAVE A VOTING RECORD ON THIS ISSUE IT'S NOT ABOUT WRITING SOMETHING IT'S ABOUT ACTUALLY GETTING IT ENACTED SO IT IMPACTS KANSANS IN A POSITIVE WAY THAT WILL HELP KANSANS LIVE THEIR LIVES MORE FREELY AND YOU CAN SEE THAT MY OPPONENTS ARE ATTACKING ME IT'S BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THEY'RE DESPERATE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT I'M THE CONSERVATIVE WHO HAS THE LEGAL EXPERIENCE AND THE POLICY MAKING EXPERIENCE TO WIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH TONY MATIBI LET ME JUST SAY ONE THING BEFORE SOMEBODY ATTACKS MY CONSERVATIVE CREDENTIALS UM I WOULD CHALLENGE ANYBODY ON THIS STAGE TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR CONSERVATIVE CR EDENTIALS BY VOLUNTEERING TO LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY AND LEAVE THEIR FAMILY BEHIND AND GO TO A WAR ZONE TO PROTECT US AND OUR IDEALS AND UNTIL SOMEBODY ELSE CAN STAND UP AND TALK ABOUT HAVING DONE THAT FRANKLY I DON'T HAVE MUCH PATIENCE FOR SOMEBODY CHALLENGING MY CONSERVATIVE CREDENTIALS ACCORDING TO THE LATEST VOTER REGISTRATION NUMBERS REPUBLICANS MAKE UP 44 PERCENT OF KANSAS VOTERS THAT MEANS TO WIN THIS RACE YOU'LL NEED TO ATTRACT AT LEAST SOME INDEPENDENCE AND DEMOCRATS STARTING WITH YOU KELLY WARREN WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO PEOPLE WATCHING WHO AREN'T REPUBLICANS MY MESSAGE IS THIS I WIN TOUGH ELECTIONS I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY KANSANS TO RUN FOR OFFICE AGAINST INCUMBENTS IN A VERY POLITICALLY PURPLE DISTRICT KIND OF LIKE THE COLOR OF MY DRESS AND FOR A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN TO GET OUT THERE AND DEFEAT THAT INCUMBENT IN THE PRIMARY AND THEN TO WIN IN THE GENERAL THAT TAKES POLITICAL COURAGE AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AND THEN I WAS ASKED TO RUN FOR THE SENATE BE A BIGGER CONSERVATIVE VOICE IN OUR LEGISLATURE AGAIN WE HAD AN INCUMBENT WHO DIDN'T REPRESENT OUR CONSERVATIVE VALUES AND I RAN AGAINST HIM DEFEATED HIM AND DEFEATED THE DEMOCRAT AS WELL SO I WOULD ASK INDEPENDENTS IN THE GENERAL ELECTION TO JOIN AND SUPPORT ME BECAUSE I WIN TOUGH ELECTIONS AND THEN WHEN I WIN WHAT DO I DO IT MATTERS TO YOU BECAUSE WE GET LAWS ENACTED AND POLICY THAT MATTERS TO YOU AS ATTORNEY GENERAL I WOULD DO THE SAME THING NOT ALL ATTORNEYS GENERAL STEP UP AND STAND UP AGAINST CRITICAL RACE THEORY NOT ALL OF THEM CHALLENGE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ON ENERGY POLICY NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE THE SAME POSITION THANK YOU VERY MUCH KRIS KOBACH YOU'RE GOING TO NEED AT LEAST SOME SUPPORT FROM INDEPENDENTS AND DEMOCRATS WHAT'S YOUR MESSAGE TO THEM WATCHING NOW MY MESSAGE TO THEM IS I WILL AGGRESSIVELY DEFEND ALL KANSAS LAWS EVEN KANSAS LAWS THAT I MIGHT NOT HAVE VOTED FOR BECAUSE THAT IS ULTIMATELY THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THE DUTY OF THE AND IT IS NOT A DUTY THAT IS GOING TO BE FORCED UPON THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SOME ATTORNEYS GENERAL DO NOT DEFEND I WILL NOT PUT MY FINGER TO THE WIND I WILL NOT TRY TO ASSESS OH BOY ARE WE GOING TO WIN IN FRONT OF THAT JUDGE WILL WE WIN IN THIS PARTICULAR COURT I WILL DEFEND ALL OF THEM AND THE REASON YOU DEFEND EVEN IF YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE LIKELY TO LOSE AT THE DISTRICT COURT LEVEL IS BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN GET THE FACTS ON THE RECORD AND BRING THAT CASE ON APPEAL AND HOPEFULLY IF IT'S A FEDERAL ISSUE YOU CAN GET TO THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND EVEN LAWS THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH AND I WILL DO THAT TONY MATIVI THE DEMOCRATS HAVE FOUND A CANDIDATE FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO IS IN MY OPINION VERY LAURA KELLY-ESQUE AND I AM A REPUBLICAN I'M NOT JUST RUNNING AS A REPUBLICAN BUT THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION TO ELECT AN OUTSIDER TO ELECT A PROSECUTOR AND NOT A POLITICIAN CHRIS MANN IS AN EXCEPTIONALLY NICE GUY I LIKE HIM BUT HIS RESUME IS MINOR LEAGUE BALL I AM THE KANSAN THE REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE KANSAN WHO RUNS BEST AGAINST THE DEMOCRAT I AM THE OUTSIDER I AM THE PROSECUTOR AND NOT THE POLITICIAN AND MY RESUME SHOWS THAT I PLAYED IN THE MAJORS FOR 25 YEARS I AM THE CANDIDATE ON THIS STAGE WHO CAN MOST EASILY BEAT THE HAND-PICKED DEMOCRAT YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS TO REBUT KELLY WARREN YES I THINK HE KNOWS AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE DEMOCRAT DOESN'T HE SO UM JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PICK THE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN THAT HAS THEIR RECORD THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND TRUST I AM THAT CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN YOU CAN LOOK AT MY RECORD YOU DON'T HAVE TO GUESS WHETHER I SUPPORT THE PARENTS BILL OF RIGHTS WHETHER I SUPPORT A BAN ON MASS MANDATES BY GOVERNMENT A BAN ON VACCINE PASSPORTS BY GOVERNMENT YOU CAN LOOK AT MY RECORD AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO KANSANS OF ALL POLITICAL STRIPES THAT YOU HAVE SOMEONE YOU CAN TRUST THEIR RECORD YOU CAN LOOK AT THANK YOU SO MUCH WELL I CAN OFFER YOU PROOF THAT I CAN REACH OUT TO THEM I'VE BEEN IN THREE STATEWIDE GENERAL ELECTIONS AND I'VE WON TWO OUT OF THREE AND IN THOSE TWO MY VOTE TOTAL WAS EITHER THE HIGHEST OR THE SECOND HIGHEST IN THE STATE SO OBVIOUSLY I CAN REACH OUT TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT REPUBLICANS ALSO I WOULD SAY THIS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN KANSAS SUFFERS ONE PROBLEM THAT IS A CHRONIC ONE WE HAVE BRUISING PRIMARIES WHERE WE BLOODY EACH OTHER AND RUN ADS THAT ARE FALSE YOU DON'T SEE ME DOING THAT BUT I'VE BEEN THE VICTIM OF THAT WE NEED TO BE MORE TRUTHFUL AND MORE BUILDING UP OF OUR PRODUCTIVITY TONY MOTIF THE LAST WORD TO YOU IF SENATOR WARREN THINKS THAT SHE CAN RUN A PRIMARY WHERE SHE CAMPAIGNS AS BEING THE MOST CONSERVATIVE CONSERVATIVE IN THE RACE AND ATTACKS HER OPPONENTS FOR RECEIVING SUPPORT ACROSS THE IDEOLOGICAL LINES I THINK SHE'S MISLEADING BOTH HERSELF AND YOU BY SAYING THAT SHE CAN GET ELECTED IN THE GENERAL BEING ATTORNEY GENERAL IS ABOUT PRIORITIES SO CONGRATULATIONS TONY MATIVI YOU'VE JUST BEEN NAMED THE NEXT KANSAS ATTORNEY GENERAL YOU JUST WALK IN YOUR NEW OFFICE IN TOPEKA AND THE FIRST BIG PRIORITY YOU WILL TACKLE WHEN YOU SIT DOWN AT YOUR DESK IS BLANK THERE ARE THREE THE WAY THAT WE DEAL WITH FENTANYL IN THIS CASE IN THE STATE IS NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM FENTANYL IS MORE A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION THAN IT IS A DRUG AND WE NEED TO TREAT IT AS SUCH SECONDLY IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE THAT OUR STATE CONTINUES TO PAY TO HOUSE INMATES WHO'VE BEEN ON DEATH ROW FOR DECADES I WILL PERSONALLY BEGIN PUSHING THOSE CASES BACK THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND THEN FINALLY I WILL HELP PROTECT KANSANS FROM THE THEFT OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY BY FOREIGN ACTORS AS A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I SAW FIRSTHAND I AT THE TIME I RETIRED WAS SUPERVISING 30 OPEN INVESTIGATIONS ADVERSE FOREIGN ACTORS HERE IN THIS STATE STEALING INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY FROM OUR BUSINESSES OUR AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY AND OUR ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS I KNOW THAT THERE IS A HUGE GAP BETWEEN WHAT KANSANS CAN DO TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN DO TO PROTECT THEM I KNOW HOW TO FILL THAT GAP AND THAT WOULD BE MY THIRD PRIORITY ON THE DAY I TAKE OFFICE AS ATTORNEY GENERAL THERE WAS A HUGE MISTAKE AND IT WAS ACTUALLY KELLY WARREN WHO WAS ELECTED ATTORNEY GENERAL AND SHE JUST WALKED INTO THE OFFICE TOOK HER SEAT AND HER BIG PRIORITY NOW IS BLANK WELL NICK FIRST OF ALL THAT'S NO BIG MISTAKE SO IT'S LEADERSHIP THE OFFICE REQUIRES LEADERSHIP YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE LEADER WHO HAS BOTH LED IN PRIVATE PRACTICE AND LED THE STATE OF KANSAS TO GET POLICY DONE THAT YOU CARE ABOUT I AM THAT PERSON ON THIS STAGE WHO HAS DONE THAT MY FIRST PRIORITY WOULD BE DEFENDING VALUE THEM BOTH I BELIEVE VALUE THEM BOTH WILL PASS ON THE AUGUST 2ND PRIMARY AND YOU CAN REST ASSURED THE ACLU IS READY WITH THEIR LAWSUIT TO CHALLENGE IT AND LET'S REMEMBER WHO ON THIS STAGE HAS LOST TO THE ACLU AND REQUIRED KANSANS TAXPAYERS TO PAY 1.9 MILLION DOLLARS TO WHO TO THE ACLU WHAT'S THE ACL GOING TO DO ACLU GONNA DO USE THAT 1.9 MILLION DOLLARS FROM KANSANS TO TURN AROUND AND SUE KANSAS ON VALUE THEM BOTH WHEN VALUE THEM BOTH PASSES SO I WILL BE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL JUST LIKE I WAS DEFEND FIGHTING AGAINST THE TWO VERY PRO-ABORTION INCUMBENTS I DEFEATED AND GOT VALUE THEM BOTH THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE AFTER I WON THANK YOU ACTUALLY IT WAS A STEVE HARVEY'S BIG BIG EPIC MISTAKE ACTUALLY THE WRONG NAME MENTIONED IT WAS YOU CHRIS YOU ARE NOW HEADING INTO THE INTO TOPEKA IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE PRIORITY NUMBER ONE I'LL GIVE YOU FIVE PRIORITY NUMBER ONE IS THE SPECIAL LITIGATION DIVISION WHICH WE WILL SET UP SIMILAR TO TEXAS TO BRING THIS THESE LAWSUITS UH NUMBER TWO VALUE THEM BOTH IT'S NOT JUST I WILL SUPPORT VALUE THEM BOTH YOU HAVE TO DO AFFIRMATIVE THINGS LIKE SEEK DECLARATORY JUDGMENTS ON STATUTES THAT ARE IN QUESTION ISSUE ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS UH WHERE THAT'S NECESSARY THIRD THING I WILL DO I'LL MAKE CONCEALED CARRY LICENSES FREE IN KANSAS YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY TO EXERCISE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT YOU HAVE TO PAY TO BE ON THIS STAGE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TO GO TO CHURCH YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE FROM THE STATE FOR CCL YOU STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REQUIREMENTS BUT NOT TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT FOUR ELECTION FRAUD CASES I WROTE THE LAW IN 2015 THAT GIVES NOT JUST THE SECRETARY OF STATE BUT ALSO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF KANSAS THE AUTHORITY TO BRING ELECTION FRAUD CASES THERE IS STILL A DOUBLE VOTING PROBLEM IN HERE IN THE STATE OF KANSAS WHERE PEOPLE VOTE IN MULTIPLE STATES IN THE SAME ELECTION UM AND THEN NUMBER FIVE CONSUMER PROTECTION THERE ARE NEW WAYS THAT THAT FRAUDSTERS ARE PREYING ON CONSUMERS ESPECIALLY THE ELDERLY USING TEXT MESSAGES AND FAKE WEBSITES WE WILL PROACTIVELY GO AFTER THEM THANK YOU VERY MUCH TONY IN YOUR REBUTTAL WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD SIX SEVEN EIGHT NINE AND TEN NO NO LET ME JUST SAY THE SPECIAL LITIGATION DIVISION IS SOMETHING THAT IS ADVOCATED BY BOTH OF MY OPPONENTS IT IS A PHENOMENALLY BAD IDEA WE DON'T NEED IT I WILL FILE THE LAWSUITS THAT NEED TO BE FILED AND IN FOUR YEARS WHEN A REPUBLICAN GETS ELECTED WE WON'T HAVE TO DISMANTLE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY THAT WE BUILT TO GET US THROUGH THE NEXT TWO YEARS KELLY WARREN I THINK IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT KANSAS REPUBLICANS SELECT THE NOMINEE THAT CAN FIGHT AND WIN AND THAT MEANS FIRST WE HAVE TO WIN NOVEMBER WE CAN'T HAVE AN ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO'S GOING TO BE A REPUBLICAN UNLESS WE WIN NOVEMBER AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE THAT REPUBLICAN ATTORNEY GENERAL WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S AN ATTORNEY WHO DOESN'T LOSE WHEN THEY REPRESENT THE STATE OF KANSAS IN COURT ON THAT ELECTION FRAUD BILL THAT MR KOBACH AS SECRETARY OF STATE LOST IN COURT AGAIN TO THE ACLU SO I KNOW KANSANS REMEMBER THIS AND I KNOW KANSANS ALSO REMEMBER THAT HE WAS ORDERED BY THAT FEDERAL JUDGE THANK YOU VERY MUCH MENTION THAT IN YOUR CLOSING STATEMENT BUT KR IS KOBACH THE FINAL WORD ON THIS TO YOU YEAH I'D LIKE TO CORRECT THAT FALSE STATEMENT THAT SHE MADE ONCE AGAIN UNDER FEDERAL LAW IF YOU IF THE STATE LOSES IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WINS IN THE DISTRICT COURT BEFORE THIS CASE WAS TAKEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND I AGREED THAT MY OFFICE WOULD HANDLE THE DISTRICT COURT SINCE WE WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE FACTS THEY WOULD DO THE APPEAL WE BOTH LOST BUT EVEN IF WE HAD WON IN THE DISTRICT COURT WHEN YOU LOSE ON APPEAL THE ACLU GETS ALL OF ITS FEES YOU CAN LOOK IT UP 42 USC 1988.

THAT IS HOW IT WORKS SO TO SAY THAT OUR LOSS IN DISTRICT COURT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ULTIMATE ASSESSMENT OF FEES IS INCORRECT AND THE ATTORNEY WHO DID ARGUE ON APPEAL IS A GREAT ONE THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU SO MUCH KRIS KOBACH NOW IT'S TIME FOR OUR CANDIDATES TO MAKE THEIR FINAL CASE TO THE VOTERS THEY HAVE 60 SECONDS TO DO SO AND IT STARTS WITH YOU KRIS KOBACH UM IN MY OPENING I TALKED ABOUT GOING ON THE OFFENSE AND THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT JOB IT GENERALLY SPEAKING IS OF COURSE PLAYING DEFENSE AGAINST ATTACK THIS IS PARTICULARLY TRUE WITH RESPECT TO THE RIGHT TO LIFE WHEN VALUE THAN BOTH PASSES AS I BELIEVE IT WILL ON AUGUST 2ND WE ARE GOING TO BE GOING BACK TO COURT ON ABORTION RELATED ISSUES I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF ARGUING IN ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT CIRCUITS AGAINST THE ACLU NOW SHE SAYS HE'S LOST A CASE TO THE ACLU OF COURSE AND I'VE BEATEN THE ACLU TOO JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE LOSS AGAINST AN ORGANIZATION THAT BRINGS HIGHLY POLITICIZED CASES AND THESE HIGHLY POLITICIZED CASES EVERYBODY KNOWS TEND TO DEPEND MORE ON THE TEMPERAMENT OF THE JUDGE THAN ON THE ACTUAL ISSUES PRESENTED IN THE BRIEFS BUT HER APPROACH WOULD APPARENTLY BE DECIDE IF YOU CAN WIN IF YOU CAN'T WIN DON'T DEFEND THE LAW THAT IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND THAT IS NO WAY TO DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION IT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS NO EXPERIENCE IN FEDERAL COURT WOULD CHOOSE SHE STILL HASN'T GIVEN US THE NAME OF THAT CASE I ASSUME SHE'S LYING TODAY NOT IN APRIL KELLY WARREN EARLY VOTING IS GOING TO START IN A FEW WEEKS WHAT'S YOUR LAST WORD TO VOTERS SURE MY CON OPPONENTS CONTINUE TO ATTACK ME BECAUSE THEY KNOW I HAVE THE RECORD OF FIGHTING AND WINNING THAT MATTERS TO KANSANS AS A SENATOR I BECAME A SENATOR BECAUSE I CHALLENGED AN INCUMBENT IN MY OWN PARTY NOW THAT'S NOT A PERSON WHO JUST THINKS LET'S TAKE ON A CHALLENGE IF ONLY IF WE CAN WIN IT I FIGHT THE BIG FIGHT AND I WIN BOTH TIMES I WON IN VERY PURPLE POLITICALLY JOHNSON COUNTY SO YOU KNOW I HAVE THE RECORD THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND TRUST AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING I'M A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN I DON'T HAVE CAMPAIGN EVENTS THAT ARE FUNDRAISED BY PEOPLE WHO VOTE NO ON VALUE THEM BOTH WHO SUPPORT DEMOCRATS OVER OUR REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR U.S SENATE AND WHO SUPPORT DEMOCRATS OVER OUR CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR SO BOTH OF MY OPPONENTS DON'T HAVE THE RECORD THAT I DO OF FIGHTING AND WINNING AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE AG WHO'S THE BEST POSITIONED TO DEFEND THE LAWS PASSED HERE IN KANSAS AND TO FIGHT AND WIN AGAINST THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION I AM THAT REPUBLICAN AND I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE THANK YOU AND THE FINAL WORD GOES TO YOU TONY MATIVI AND THAT RECORD IS WHY SHE CANNOT WIN IN THE GENERAL LOOK THIS RACE IS A SHARP CONTRAST BETWEEN TWO CAREER POLITICIANS VERSUS THE CAREER PROSECUTOR ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THE VIOLENT CRIME RATE IS RISING THE MURDER RATE HAS SKYROCKETED OUR COMMUNITIES ARE BECOMING LESS SAFE THE AG'S OFFICE IS NOT A POLITICAL SPRINGBOARD AND IT IS NOT A CONSOLATION PRIZE KANSAS DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER CAREER POLITICIAN KANSAS NEEDS AN AG WHO WILL FIGHT CRIME WHO WILL WIN LITIGATION WHO HAS PROVEN THAT THEY CAN WIN LITIGATION WHO CAN WIN IN NOVEMBER AND WHO WILL KEEP OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE AND OUR BUSINESSES THRIVING I AM THE CANDIDATE WHO CAN DELIVER ON THOSE PROMISES STARTING DAY ONE THANK YOU NICK AND YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE KANSAS REPUBLICAN ATTORNEY GENERAL IN KANSAS THE CANDIDATES KRIS KOBACH TONY MATIBI AND KELLY WARREN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US AS WAS ALREADY POINTED OUT DURING THIS DEBATE WHOEVER WINS WILL TAKE ON DEMOCRAT CHRIS MANN A FORMER POLICE OFFICER AND LOCAL PROSECUTOR IN WYANDOTTE COUNTY THIS FALL BUT BY AND LARGE THIS OFFICE HAS BEEN HELD IN REPUBLICAN HANDS FOR MOST OF ITS HISTORY I'M NICK HAINES FROM ALL OF US HERE AT KANSAS CITY PBS FROM THE DOUBLETREE HOTEL AND OUR DEBATE SPONSORS THE JOHNSON COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION BE WELL KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON THE KANSAS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S DEBATE ON KANSAS CITY PBS HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY THE JOHNSON COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION 1400 ATTORNEY MEMBERS SERVING THE COMMUNITY SINCE 1938