Graffiti Street
Graffiti Street: Making Music, Part I
Season 2 Episode 12 | 28m 11sVideo has Closed Captions
Host Kaden Hughes leads the cast in a discussion about Black music's evolution.
In this episode, host Kaden Hughes leads the cast in a discussion about Black music's evolution, focusing on blues and jazz, hip-hop and rap, and soca/calypso.
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Graffiti Street is a local public television program presented by WTJX
Graffiti Street
Graffiti Street: Making Music, Part I
Season 2 Episode 12 | 28m 11sVideo has Closed Captions
In this episode, host Kaden Hughes leads the cast in a discussion about Black music's evolution, focusing on blues and jazz, hip-hop and rap, and soca/calypso.
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AND WELCOME TO YET ANOTHER EPISODE OF "GRAFFITI STREET."
ON TODAY´S EPISODE WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT MUSIC, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF GENRES AND THE EFFECTS IT HAS ON ALL OF US.
TO START, HISTORY ISN´T REL KBATED IN ONE MONTH, ONE MOMENT OR A LEGENDARY SOUND.
A LEGENDARY MUSICIAN SAID ONE GOOD THING ABOUT MUSIC IS WHEN IT HITS YOU FEEL NO PAIN.
TODAY WE KICK OFF A SERIES OF EPISODES WHERE WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT MUSIC.
WE WILL LOOK ADD MUSIC AND INFLUENCING THE GLOBAL MUSIC SOUNDSCAPE.
SO THE FIRST GENRE THAT THE CAST WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE JIVE AND SOUL.
SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
IT WAS JUST ABOUT 100 YEARS WHEN THE JAZZ AGE BEGAN IN EARNEST, COMING OUT OF NEW ORLEANS WHEN THE POPULATION WAS MORE DIVERSE THAN ANYWHERE IN THE SOUTH.
WHEN PIANOS, MARS AND BLUES AND THE TRADITION OF MUSIC AND MUSICAL IMPROVISATION BECAME THE SOUND THAT DEFINED THE ERA.
SOUND WOULD BE ADDED AND JAZZ WOULD BECOME ANOTHER STONE IN THE BEDROOM OF MUSIC.
SO OUR FIRST QUESTION OF THE CAST.
ARE YOU A FAN OF JAZZ AND SHOW MUSIC AND WHAT EFFECT DOES IT HAVE ON YOU?
>> YEAH.
FOR ME, I GOT TO BE IN THE MOOD FOR JAZZ.
I CAN´T LISTEN TO JAZZ ALL THE TIME.
I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I LISTENED TO JAZZ WAS AT ANTILLE´S.
THEY HAD A LITTLE CONCERT.
WHEN I CLOSED MY EYES, I WAS SEEING SOME COLORS.
I DON´T KNOW IF THAT´S A WEIRD THING, BUT, YEAH, I LIKE JAZZ.
>> I´M NOT A FREQUENT JAZZ AND SOUL LISTENER, BUT WHEN IT DOES COME ON, IT´S PRETTY GOOD MUSIC.
I ENJOY LISTENING TO IT.
>> YEAH.
LIKE I -- IT´S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT I WOULD CHOOSE TO LISTEN TO LIKE ALL THE TIME.
BUT I CAN AT LEAST ENJOY IT BECAUSE IT IS REALLY GOOD MUSIC.
>> YEAH, DEFINITELY.
ONE OF MY PARENTS ACTUALLY STARTED JAZZ IN THE PARK.
A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT.
SO I GREW UP LISTENING TO JAZZ MUSIC A LOT.
AND IT IS NOT NECESSARILY ONE OF MY FAVORITE GENRES.
I DON´T HATE IT.
IT IS JUST A STAPLE.
SOUND GOOD.
FEEL GOOD.
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU THINK OF JAZZ?
WHAT COMES TO MIND WHEN YOU THINK OF JAZZ?
>> A LOT OF INSTRUMENTS, YOU KNOW, CORRELATING TOGETHER TO MAKE MUSIC IS REALLY WHAT I THINK OF WHEN I HEAR JAZZ.
>> SO IF I WERE TO THINK OF JAZZ NOW, THE THING THAT COMES TO MIND, BECAUSE IT´S MOST RECENT, IS THE DISNEY ANIMATION "SOUL."
I THINK OF THAT NOW.
BUT IF YOU ASK ME BEFORE I WATCHED OUT, I DON´T KNOW.
I DON´T KNOW WHO I WOULD THINK OF.
BUT, YEAH.
>> SO DO YOU THINK JAZZ HOLDS A PLACE IN YOUNG PEOPLE´S TASTE IN GENRE?
DO YOU THINK YOUNGER PEOPLE OUR AGE ACTUALLY SHOULD LISTEN TO JAZZ?
>> DEFINITELY NOT.
I DON´T KNOW ONE PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF LIKE 25 THAT I CAN SAY WHO IS CONSTANTLY LISTENING TO JAZZ.
I´M NOT SAYING IT IS A BAD MUSIC, BUT IT DOESN´T REALLY -- IT´S NOT REALLY FOR THE -- I´M NOT SAYING IT´S NOT.
BUT IT DOESN´T TEND TOWARD YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE OURSELVES.
>> YEAH.
I´M GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE BECAUSE I DON´T THINK I KNOW ANYBODY MY AGE OR OLDER THAT ENJOYS TO LISTEN TO JAZZ.
SO I DON´T THINK IT RESONATES WITH THE YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE HOW WOULD RESONATE WITH OLDER PEOPLE.
>> YEAH.
BUT, I MEAN, I´M SURE THERE IS STILL A FEW OUT THERE.
THERE IS LIKE THE RARE THAT LISTENS TO JAZZ.
MAYBE THERE IS HOPE THEY WILL BRING IT ON, SHOW OTHER PEOPLE AND THEN MORE PEOPLE WILL START LISTENING TO JAZZ AGAIN.
>> I MEAN, WELL, SPEAKING ON DIFFERENT KINDS OF GENERATIONS, IF THIS GENRE MUSIC WE´RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NEXT, I THINK IT MOVES ON WITH MY PARENTS, R&B.
SOUL TOOK THE UP TEMPLE MUSIC OF BLACK CHURCHES AND COMBINED IT WITH JAZZ AND THE BALLADS OF BLOOMS AND MADE A GENRE THAT MADE A DEEP AND MOVING AND POWERFUL SOUND.
IT WOULD ACTUALLY THE STARTING POINT OF MOTOWN AND R&B.
HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE A THROWBACK ARTIST OR THROWBACK MUSIC AND WHAT´S YOUR RANGE FOR A THREEBACK SONG?
>> OKAY.
I CAN SAY THAT WHEN YOU SAY R&B, LIKE THAT, I IMMEDIATELY GO TO THE ´90s BOYS 2 MEN.
BUT BOYS 2 MEN IMMEDIATELY COMES TO MIND.
>> I DON´T REALLY KNOW TOO MANY -- WELL, I PROBABLY DO.
I JUST CAN´T THINK OF THEM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
BUT WHEN I THINK OF SOUL, LIKE THAT SONG -- I´M NOT GOING TO SING IT BECAUSE THERE IS NO AUTO TUNE, BUT, YEAH, THAT´S WHAT I THINK OF WHEN I HEAR SOUL.
>> YEAH, DEFINITELY.
I FEEL LIKE SOUL AND R&B ARE MORE OF AN OLDER TYPE OF GENRE, BUT IT´S STILL SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN LISTEN TO AND YOU´RE NOT GOING TO REALLY KNOCK IT, YOU KNOW?
SO NOW WE WILL MOVE INTO A GENRE THAT I THINK WE WILL A LITTLE MORE TO TALK ABOUT, HIP HOP AND RAP.
SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
HIP HOP IS A CULTURE THAT A SIMILARITY GENRE OF MUSIC CAME TO IT.
JAMAICAN BORN DJ IN THE ´70s WOULD BEGIN CUTTING LOOPING BREAKS.
DANCERS WOULD DANCE TO THE BREAKS GIVING US BREAK DANCING.
ARTISTS WOULD MAKE THE MUSIC AND GIVE US BEAT BOXING.
THE ATTIRE WOULD GIVE US FASHION AND THEN WOULD SPEAK AND RHYME OVER THE BREAK GIVING US RAP.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU THINK RAP FROM EARLIER YEARS, YOU KNOW, BACK FROM OUR PARENTS TO RAP NOWADAYS, HOW DO YOU THINK IT´S CHANGED AND DO YOU THINK IT´S FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE?
>> I THINK THAT LIKE FOR ME RAP IS -- HOW THEY SAY THINGS IS DIFFERENT.
WHEN RAP WAS JUST STARTING OFF, THERE WAS A LOT OF HIDDEN MESSAGES.
THERE IS STILL A LOT OF HIDDEN MESSAGES IN CERTAIN ARTISTS RAPS.
BUT THE TRENDS HAVE CHANGED, HOW THEY TALK ABOUT.
YEAH, JUST SOUNDED MORE CLASSYISH WHEN WE THEY WERE DOING RAP BACK THEN.
>> YEAH.
I GUESS IF YOU GO TO THE ´90s OR LATE ´80s, RAP, DEPENDING ON THE LYRICS, EVEN IF THEY WERE INAPPROPRIATE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DIVE DEEP TO KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN COMPARED TO NOWADAYS WHERE THEY PLAIN OUT SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
THEY DON´T TRY TO TALK ABOUT IT, AND IT IS USUALLY ABOUT THE SAME THINGS.
BUT NOWADAYS IT´S WORST.
LIKE MUSIC IS WORSE AS IN IT´S MORE VULGAR.
EVEN IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ´30s, THERE WAS MUSIC THAT YOU MAY THINK CAME OUT TODAY, SO I WOULDN´T REALLY SAY WORSE THAN BACK THEN.
>> YEAH.
I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME GIVE BACKS TO BOTH GENRES.
BACK IN THE DAY, LYRICS WERE MORE PART OF THE RAP.
NOWADAYS I FEEL LIKE THE LYRICS ARE LESS MEANINGFUL, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, BUT THE SONG AND THE BEAT STILL RESONATES WITH PEOPLE.
SO IT´S STILL GOOD, YOU KNOW.
IT´S NOT BAD.
SO THE NEXT QUESTION IS SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE RISE OF SOUND CLOUD ARTISTS IS A BETTER VOICE TO PEOPLE OR WORSE AND HOW THE SOUND QUALITY ALLOWS PEOPLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES.
>> I FEEL LIKE SOUND CLOUD, YOU KNOW, OF ALL PEOPLE HAS A LARGER AUDIENCE TO THE MUSIC AND MORE ARTISTS CAN PUT THEIR MUSIC OUT THERE.
SO I FEEL LIKE SOUND CLOUD, YOUTUBE AND THE OTHER STREAMING SITES HAVE HELPED A LOT OF ARTISTS, SIGNED A LARGER AUDIENCE.
I FEEL LIKE SOUND CLOUD HELPS A LOT OF MUSIC.
>> YEAH.
I´M GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE.
RECENTLY I WAS ON LIKE A LITTLE BOAT TRIP, AND THIS -- HE´S LIKE A DJ.
HE SAID THAT HE WAS WORKING WITH PRINCE AND ALL THOSE BIG-TIME POP STARS BACK IN THE DAY.
AND HE´S LIKE NOW, ALL I GOT TO DO TO GET A GIG OR JUST BLOW UP IS HAVE AN INSTAGRAM OR A FACEBOOK AND PUT SOME OF MY BEATS ON SOME APP AND YOU CAN MAKE IT BIG.
BUT I FEEL LIKE IT´S A GOOD THING, BUT THERE IS ALSO NEGATIVES.
THERE IS GOING TO BE NEGATIVES ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW OUTLET.
SO, YEAH, I THINK THAT IT DOES HELP PEOPLE GET DISCOVERED AND STUFF.
>> YEAH.
RAPPERS AND OTHER MUSICIANS USING OTHER PLATFORMS, I WOULD SEE PEOPLE OUT THERE ON TIKTOK OR SOMETHING BECAUSE I´M NOT REALLY ON INSTAGRAM.
BUT ON TIKTOK, A LOT OF PEOPLE PROMOTE THEIR SONGS AND THEY DO GET A LOT OF VIEWS BECAUSE TIKTOK ALLOWS A LOT OF PEOPLE SO SEE YOUR VIDEOS.
>> YEAH.
QUICKLY I JUST WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT TIKTOK, AND THERE HAS BEEN LIKE A REALLY WEIRD TREND WHERE LIKE OLD SONGS THAT WERE ALREADY POPULAR WILL GO BACK UP INTO THE CHARTS AND THEY WILL JUST CITY THERE BECAUSE OF TIKTOK RERUNNING THESE SONGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
I THINK THAT´S COOL.
AND ALSO LIKE THE TRAP BUNNY BUBBLES, SHE BLEW UP -- I DON´T KNOW.
YEAH, IT´S CRAZY.
>> SO, UM, WE´RE GETTING AWAY FROM MUSICAL GENRES.
WE´RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE HOW PEOPLE CAN JUST HOP ON SOUND CLOUD OR YOU TUNE AND PROMOTE THEIR SONG.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT -- IDEAL WITH THIS ONE GUY.
HE´S ON FACEBOOK.
HE´S ALL OVER FACEBOOK.
HE SITS IN HIS CAR, HE´S KAU CAUTION, AND HE JUST RAPS.
DO YOU THINK THAT COULD BE CULTURE APPROPRIATION AND HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT HIM VIBING OUT TO SOME RAP SONGS IN HIS CAR?
>> YOU KNOW, THAT´S COOL.
THE MAN IS JUST VIBING, DOING HIS THING.
HE ENJOYS THE SONGS.
WE ALL ENJOY THEM.
IF HE ENJOYS THEM, WHAT´S WRONG WITH THAT?
YEAH.
>> YEAH.
I THINK THERE IS A LINE BETWEEN CULTURAL APPROPRIATION AND JUST BEING ABLE TO APPRECIATE SOMEBODY´S MUSIC.
IT´S NOT LIKE HE´S USING IT AND CLAIMING IT TO BE -- I DON´T KNOW HOW TO SAY THIS.
LIKE IF YOU CAN APPRECIATE LIKE A CERTAIN TYPE OF MUSIC LIKE RAP AND HIP HOP AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY BEHIND IT AND WHY IT WAS CREATED AND THAT FOR THE MOST PART BLACK PEOPLE CREATED IT, AND YOU ENJOY IT AND YOU WANT TO SING ALONG TO IT, I FEEL THAT´S JUST APPRECIATED, RATHER THAN CULTURAL APPROPRIATION.
>> SO THERE IS A REGGAE ARTIST.
AND HE IS GOING AROUND SAYING THAT HE´S THE KING OF REGGAE, AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, MATHIS, YOU KNOW, YOUR SONGS ARE GOOD.
YOU GOT THE DREADS, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU´RE NOT THE KING.
HE´S A JEWISH REGGAE ARTIST BY THE WAY.
IF YOU COMPARE HIM TO BOB OR ANY OF THE MARLEYs, HE´S NOT THE KING.
HE CAN´T REP THE TITLE OF KING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE´S NOT -- YEAH.
SO I FEEL LIKE THAT´S A LINE THAT HE SHOULDN´T CROSS.
>> I THINK THAT´S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE AMERICA DOES THE SAME THING WITH THEIR GOVERNMENT.
LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN TO BE THE PRESIDENT.
YOU CAN´T COME FROM SPAIN OR RUSSIA AND BECOME A PRESIDENT.
YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
SO IT´S KIND OF LIKE THAT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF -- I´M NOT SAYING HE CAN´T.
BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE -- A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, REGULAR PEOPLE AREN´T GOING TO ACCEPT A QUOTE, UNQUOTE JEWISH KING OF REGGAE WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF BLACK, JAMAICAN, WHATEVER, REGGAE ARTISTS WHO ARE JUST AS GOOD, MAYBE EVEN BETTER.
SO THAT´S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
>> SINCE WE ARE ALREADY ON THE TOPIC, WE ARE MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT GENRE.
SO I FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT REGGAE IS BIG IN THE ISLANDS.
IT´S SEEN A LOT IN JAMAICA AND IT´S ALSO SEEN A LOT HERE.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS REGGAE AND DANCE HALL OUR MAIN TOPICS, DO YOU THINK THE GENRES NOW ARE MORE FOR PEOPLE TO VIBE OR TO THINK ABOUT?
>> I´M GOING TO HAVE TO SAY IT IS A MIX BETWEEN BOTH BECAUSE IF YOU PUT A TARIS RILEY OR DAMIEN MARLEY -- I USUALLY LISTEN TO DAMIEN MARLEY OR OTHER ARTISTS.
BUT HE TALKS ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THE WORLD, AND YOU GOT TO REALLY LISTEN TO WHAT HE´S SAYING.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO MAKE UP MONEY AND STUFF.
SO THERE IS TWO SIDES TO LIKE REGGAE.
SO YEAH.
>> I TOTALLY AGREE TO WHAT JOSH IS SAYING, ESPECIALLY OUTSIDE OF THE REGGAE GENRE.
WITH RAP AND HIP HOP, YOU HAVE YOUR ARTISTS WHO SPECIALIZE AND THEN MORE CLICHE GOOD SOUNDING THINGS.
YEAH.
AND I A LOT OF THE OLDER GENERATION UNDERSTAND THAT MUSIC DOESN´T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE A LYRICAL BOOK THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO.
IT IS LIKE A VIBE.
IT IS LIKE A FEELING.
IT´S MORE THE SOUND OF, YOU KNOW, THE MUSIC AND HOW IT MAKES YOU FEEL THAN WHAT´S BEING SAID, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO I FEEL LIKE, YEAH, VIBES SPECIALIZE IN THEIR OWN AREAS.
>> YEAH.
II AGREE.
I THINK IT DEFINITELY DEPENDS ON WHO YOU LISTEN TO BECAUSE ONE ARTIST CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT´S GOING ON IN THE WORLD AND ANOTHER ARTIST COULD BE TALKING ABOUT MAKING MUSIC JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE MUSIC AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
SO IT DEFINITELY DEPENDS ON WHO YOU LISTEN TO.
>> IT ALSO DEPENDS ON HOW YOU FEEL.
LIKE IF YOU ARE IN A HAPPY MOOD AND YOU JUST WANT TO LISTEN TO SOME MUSIC, YOU ARE JUST GOING TO WANT TO LISTEN TO THE BEAT.
AND I DO THAT A LOT.
BUT IF YOU ARE MORE UPSET OR SAD OR SOMETHING OR ANGRY, IT BRINGS OUT THOSE EMOTIONS AS IN LIKE THE LYRICS.
SO I THINK IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT, LIKE HOW YOU FEEL OR WHETHER YOU JUST WANT TO GET UP AND DOWN.
>> YEAH, DEFINITELY.
ALSO, MUSIC ISN´T NECESSARILY JUST TO FOCUS ON THE WORDS.
IT IS FOR PEOPLE´S ENJOYMENT.
THAT´S WHY THE GENRES, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THERE WOULDN´T BE ALL THESE GENRES.
IF THERE WAS JUST ONE GENRE, PEOPLE WOULDN´T HAVE SO MUCH TO ENJOY.
THAT´S WHY THERE IS SO MANY.
THEY WANT SOMETHING EVERYONE CAN ENJOY AND BE HAPPY WITH.
SO THERE IS DIFFERENT TYPES OF MUSIC FOR DIFFERENT TYPE OF PEOPLE.
>> YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT.
OUR FINAL TOPIC IS CALYPSO.
A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
TRACING ITS ROOTS BACK TO WEST AFRICAN, STORY TELLING AND CALL AND RESPONSE TRADITION AS WELL AS SPECIALIZES IN SOCIAL POLITICAL COMMENTARY, SATIRE AND THE BALANCE BETWEEN DRAMA AND COMEDY, IT IS A DRAMA EQUAL TO REGGAE.
>> IT GOES ALONG WITH DO YOU THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE FOCUS ON THE LYRICS IN CALYPSO RATHER THAN HOW IT MAKES YOUR BODY MOVE AND HOW IT MAKES YOU FEEL?
>> WELL, FOR CALYPSO, YES.
YOU ARE JUST LISTENING TO WHAT THE PERSON -- IT IS LIKE A READ STORY IN CALYPSO, AND YOU JUST FIGURE OUT WHAT´S GOING ON.
BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO THE SONG AND THEY KNOW WHAT´S HAPPENING, BUT THEY´RE JUMPING UP AND DOWN.
YOU KNOW?
SO THEY KNOW WHAT´S HAPPENING, BUT THEY´RE NOT REALLY TAKING IN EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT´S A PARTY.
LIKE THOSE ARE PARTY SONGS.
SO, YEAH.
>> YEAH.
I AGREE.
LIKE CALYPSO IS ONE OF THOSE GENRES THAT RHYTHM IS EVERYTHING.
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE FOCUSSING ON LIKE THE LYRICS, BUT LIKE YOU ARE THERE FOR THE RHYTHM BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU WANT TO DANCE AND HAVE FUN.
>> YEAH.
I FEEL LIKE CALYPSO MUSIC, THE LYRICS ISN´T REALLY WHAT STANDS OUT TO PEOPLE.
IT IS THE ENERGY.
IT IS THE FEELING.
IT IS RHYTHM.
IT IS WHAT MAKES PEOPLE MOVE.
IT IS WHAT GETS PEOPLE ALIVE.
I DON´T THINK ANYONE LISTENS FOR THE LYRICS.
IT IS THE ENERGY AND THE LIVELINESS OF THE MUSIC.
THAT´S WHY IT IS SUCH A POPULAR GENRE, ESPECIALLY HERE.
>> YEAH.
I DON´T KNOW.
I FEEL LIKE CALYPSO IS SOMETHING THAT IS A MUSICAL STORY.
I´M LISTENING TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THEY´RE SINGING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY CARE ABOUT.
SO YOU ARE KIND OF DANCING TO IT AND LISTENING TO IT.
OH, YEAH, WOW.
THAT´S A GREAT STORY.
LIKE WHAT JOSH IS SAYING, WITH SOKA, YOU´RE NOT LISTENING TO IT.
YOU MAY KNOW IT WORD FOR WORD, BUT YOU´RE NOT LISTENING TO IT.
YOU´RE JUST JUMPING UP AND DOWN AND DANCING TO IT.
>> A LOT OF TIMES ME AND MY BROTHER HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE SONGS WE LISTEN TO AND THE BEAT CARRIES HOW MUCH OF A GOOD SONG IT IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT DOESN´T REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
>> SO NOW WE WILL MOVE OVER QUICKLY TO MUSICIANS.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF MUSICIANS.
SOME OF US WHO WRITE MUSIC.
SOMETIMES I JUST WRITE MUSIC BECAUSE I´M IN THE GOOD TO SPILL SOME STUFF OUT.
AND SOMETIMES I JUST FREE STYLE WITH MY FRIENDS AT SCHOOL SOMETIMES.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CAST.
DO YOU THINK THAT MOST ARTISTS ARE GENERALLY LIVING AN UP IMAGINE TO GET PEOPLE TO CONSUME THEIR MUSIC?
>> MY PERSONAL OPINION IS MOST RAPPERS PICTURE IMAGE BECAUSE THAT´S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT´S PROBABLY BETTER TO BE YOURSELF SO PEOPLE CAN KIND OUT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE -- ONCE THEY FIND OUT THAT YOU´RE NOT REALLY WHO YOU ARE, THEY STOP MESSING WITH YOU ENTIRELY.
SO I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF ARTISTS PORTRAY IMAGES, WHETHER GOOD, WHETHER BAD, WHETHER THIS OR THAT.
BUT IT´S JUST WHAT SELLS TO A LARGER AUDIENCE, SO, THEY DO WHAT´S EASY.
>> YEAH.
I AGREE.
WELL SOMETIMES BECAUSE SOME -- BECAUSE WITH ARTISTS NOWADAYS, I MIGHT JUST USE MIGOS.
THEY´RE LIVING A GLAMOROUS LIFESTYLE.
I CAN´T SAY I KNOW THEM PERSONALLY SO I DON´T KNOW IF SOMETIMES THEY´RE IN KITCHEN WALKING BACK AND TALKING.
YOU KNOW WHAT I´M SAYING?
BUT YES.
I THINK THEY DO TEND TO PORTRAY SOME OF WHAT THEIR LIFESTYLE IS.
>> BY THE WAY, SORRY, I FEEL LIKE A LARGE MAJORITY OF THEM, TO BE MORE CLEAR.
>> YEAH.
I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE SOME RAPPERS WHO FOR THE MOST PART -- I WON´T SAY FOR THE MOST PART THAT IF THEY MAKE THEIR OWN SONGS THEY MAKE BRING TIES FROM THEIR OWN LIFE IN TO MAKE IT MORE BELIEVABLE OR WHATEVER.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT IS ALL KIND OF JUST FOR SHOW BECAUSE IF YOU ARE THE TYPE OF PERSON ABOUT CARES, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WRITE A SONG -- PEOPLE AREN´T GOING TO LISTEN TO A SONG ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH.
FOR THE MOST PART YOUR DAILY LUF IS BORING AND NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO IT.
IN ORDER FOR THEM TO SELL THEIR MUSIC, THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT OTHER PEOPLE WANT, LIKE SHOW OFF YOUR JEWELRY OR CARS OR SOMETHING.
SO FOR THE MOST PART, IT IS JUST A SHOW.
>> YEAH, DEFINITELY.
I ALSO FEEL LIKE IT FALLS INTO THE BROADER TOPIC OF WHAT MUSIC IS FOR.
THE FACT THEY PUT ON A SHOW IS JUST CONSUMERISM BECAUSE THAT´S WHAT PEOPLE LOOK GOOD AND WANT TO HEAR.
SO I´M SORRY, BUT I THINK WE´RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLOSE NOW.
WE´RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
SUCH A BROAD TOPIC AND ONE THAT WE KNOW WE CAN NEVER TALK ABOUT IN ONE EPISODE.
AS WE GO THROUGH THIS SERIES, DISCUSSION, WE´LL DIG MORE INTO SPECIFIC GENRES AND HOW THEY RELATE TO US AND THEY CAN PROVIDE US INSIGHT.
REMEMBER TO JOIN US ON THE NEXT EPISODE OF "GRAFFITI STREET" WHERE WE EACH THE FOCUS ON MUSIC.
AND THANK YOU.
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