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THE VIEWS EXPRESSED ON THIS PROGRAM ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF WTJX, ITS BOARD, STAFF, OR UNDERWRITERS.

♫♫ ♫♫ ♫♫ ♫♫ ♫♫ ♫♫ ♫♫ >>> HELLO.

AND WELCOME TO ANOTHER EPISODE OF "GRAFFITI STREET."

IT´S 2021, THE WORLD´S CHANGE, BUT THERE´S ALWAYS A QUESTION OF IF THAT CHANGES FOR THE BETTER OR WORSE.

FOR WOMEN HISTORY IS MADE ONE MONTH AT A TIME.

WHAT IS THE VALUE OF HISTORY-MAKING?

WHAT IS THE SUCCESS OF WOMEN ACTUALLY WORTH?

IS IT A MATTER OF WORKING TWICE AS HARD WHILE BEING TWICE AS COMPOSED?

FOR BEING TREATED HALF AS WELL?

IT´S VALUING THE EXPERIENCES, INPUT, ABILITIES, AND IDEAS OF WOMEN.

FOR DECADES THERE´S BEEN A MEDICAL BIAS THAT LEANS TOWARDS MEN.

IN THE PAST, THERE HAVE BEEN RESEARCH PROJECTS ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF OBESITY ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF BREAST AND URINARY CANCER, WITH NO FEMALE RESEARCH SUBJECTS OR RESEARCHERS.

THERE´S BEEN POLITICAL DEBATE ABOUT ABORTION IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT EVEN THE MOST DIVERSE CONGRESS IN AMERICAN HISTORY IS 28.6% WOMEN.

A QUESTION FOR CAST.

IS THE VOICE OF WOMEN ON A TOPIC THAT CONCERNS THEIR BODIES LIKE ABORTION BEING VALUED?

>> I DON´T THINK THAT WOMEN GET A LOT OF -- AS MUCH SAY AS THE MEN DO WHEN IT COMES TO ABORTION.

I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MORE WOMEN SPEAKING OUT ON THE TOPIC, BUT IT´S STILL UP TO THE POINT WHERE THEY´RE MAKING THE CHOICES AS MUCH.

BECAUSE I MEAN, EVEN IF WE GO ON TO THE SUPREME COURT JUDGES, THEY -- SOME OF THEIR CASES DEAL WITH THAT.

BUT IT´S NOT AS MUCH REPRESENTATION.

I MEAN, EVEN IN THE STATES THAT HAVE BEEN PUSHING ABORTION BACK, THEY ARE NOT -- THE WOMEN AREN´T GETTING THEIR SAY AS MUCH.

BECAUSE IT´S THE GUY WHO IS MAKING THOSE CHOICES.

>> IS THAT VOTE EVEN BEING HEARD WHEN THEY GET THAT CHANCE?

>> I DON´T THINK WOMEN -- EVEN IF THEY DO GET THE CHANCE TO SPEAK THEIR MIND, THEY´RE SOMEWHAT IGNORED OR PUSHED OFF TO THE SIDE.

OR THEY´RE JUST IGNORED COMPLETELY.

THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY SOMETHING, THEN EVERYONE WOULD JUST DISREGARD IT, LIKE OH, IT DOESN´T MAKE ANY SENSE, ABORTION, IT´S WRONG, IT´S THE WOMAN´S FAULT, SHE SHOULD HAVE KEPT HER LEGS CLOSED, IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO THOUGH.

I FEEL LIKE IT´S A PROBLEM.

BECAUSE IT´S SOMETHING THAT DOES CONCERN THE MALE.

IT´S SOMETHING ABOUT A WOMAN´S BODY.

AND I FEEL LIKE THAT´S THE WOMAN´S DECISION IS THE BEST IMPORTANT THING.

IN CONGRESS, WOMEN SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONES TO HAVE A SAY.

THINGS THAT CAN BE -- BIRTH CONTROL, ABORTION, ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO WE NEED MORE OF A SAY.

WE SHOULDN´T BE IGNORED.

>> YEAH, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT WHEN YOU WERE SAYING THE DIFFERENT THINGS TO PREVENT CONCEIVING A CHILD.

I WAS LOOKING INTO LIKE THE PRICES.

AND IT´S CRAZY HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE TOOLS JUST SO YOU DON´T END UP CONCEIVING SOMETHING THAT WAS -- I MEAN, I KNOW IT SOUNDS A LITTLE HARSH, BUT -- A MISTAKE.

BECAUSE -- I FEEL LIKE THAT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT -- A LOT MORE CHEAPER.

LIKE IT´S 70 BUCKS TO 100 BUCKS FOR PLAN "B."

IT´S REALLY INSANE.

SO -- YEAH, I DON´T KNOW -- THAT´S JUST CRAZY, TO ME.

>> SO WE LIVE IN THIS DAY AND AGE, SOCIAL MEDIA IS A BIG ASPECT OF OUR LIVES.

THERE´S CONVERSATION ABOUT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS REQUIRING MULTIPLE FORMS OF AGREEMENT, OF A SPOUSE, IF A WOMAN WANTS TO HAVE HER TUBES TIED.

BUT A MAN CAN HAVE AN EASILY REVERSIBLE VASECTOMY.

HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO BIAS?

>> THERE´S MEDICAL BIAS ALL THE TIME.

LIKE FOR THIS SPECIFIC THING, I MEAN, IT´S JUST -- A MONEY PLAY, FOR ME, I THINK.

I DON´T KNOW.

BECAUSE IT DOESN´T MAKE TOO MUCH SENSE FOR THE GUY TO BE ABLE TO GET THE VASECTOMY AND THE WOMAN NOT BEING ABLE TO GET HER TUBES TIED.

I THINK THAT´S THE PROCEDURE THAT YOU SAID.

I DON´T KNOW, IT´S JUST A STRANGE THING.

BECAUSE I KNOW WITH REGARDS TO -- IT´S JUST WHAT GETS THE MOST FOLLOWING.

SO IT COMES DOWN TO MONEY, SOMETIMES.

BUT NOT IN THE WAY THAT IT´S SUPPOSED TO BE.

>> I THINK IT JUST GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE FACT THAT WOMEN ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONES WHO WANT OR NOT WANT KIDS.

SOME PEOPLE GROW UP THINKING THEIR MAIN PURPOSE IN LIFE IS TO CONCEIVE A CHILD.

AND I THINK THAT´S WHY IN THE MEDICAL FIELD, LIKE, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO TIE YOUR TUBES?

ARE YOU SURE YOU DON´T WANT TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT MORE, HAVE SOME KIDS IN THE FUTURE?

ARE YOU SURE, ARE YOU SURE?

BECAUSE A WOMAN´S MAIN PURPOSE IS TO WANT TO HAVE A CHILD.

BUT MEN, THE MEN COULD BE MORE PROMISCUOUS, GO ON AND HAVE ALL KIND OF FUN.

IT´S LIKE, OKAY, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A VASECTOMY?

GO AHEAD.

FOR WOMEN, ARE YOU SURE?

ARE YOU SURE YOU DON´T WANT KIDS IN THE FUTURE?

>> DO YOU THINK THIS SHOWS WOMEN ARE ONLY VALUED -- >> THE SOLE PERSON OR THEY´RE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN CREATE NEW LIFE.

IT´S THE WIDELY SOUGHT AFTER THING.

AND IT´S JUST INGRAINED INTO SOCIETY TO MAKE WOMEN PROCREATE.

IT´S KIND OF -- IT´S REALLY MESSED UP.

BUT I JUST THINK THAT´S WHAT IT IS.

>> FROM MEDICAL, LET´S LOOK AT SPORTS.

A "USA TODAY" ARTICLE REPORTED NCAA MEN´S AND WOMEN´S TEAMS RECEIVED DIFFERENT COVID-19 TESTS.

CONNECTICUT BASKETBALL COACH GINA NOTED HER TEAM RECEIVED DAILY ANTIGEN TESTS, THE MEN´S TEAM RECEIVED DAILY PCR TESTS.

QUESTION TO THE CAST.

DO YOU THINK THE OUTCRY IS JUSTIFIED?

>> YEAH.

I FEEL THAT IT´S APPROPRIATE TO NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SITUATION IN THAT THEY´RE RECEIVING DIFFERENT TESTS OR BEING TREATED DIFFERENTLY.

PURELY BASED OFF OF THEIR GENDER.

I FEEL THAT THERE´S NO REASON AS TO WHY THE MEN´S TEAM SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A DIFFERENT TEST THAN THE WOMEN´S TEAM.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, LOOKING FOR THE SAME RESULT IN EVERYONE.

SO I DON´T FEEL THAT THEY HAVE A JUSTIFIED REASON TO GIVE SEPARATE TESTS TO EITHER TEAM.

>> JOSH?

>> THE ARGUMENT THAT HAS BEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN PLAYED BY THE NCAA IS THAT THE WOMEN´S TEAM IS NOT -- LACKING IN AS MUCH MONEY, OR THEY DON´T HAVE AS MUCH MONEY TO ALLOCATE TO THE WOMEN´S TEAM.

MEANWHILE, THE MEN´S GET A -- SOMEWHERE AROUND -- THEY RACK IN A COUPLE OF BILLION IN TOURNAMENT REVENUE.

MEANWHILE, THE WOMEN´S, IT´S PROPORTIONATELY LESS.

IT´S ONLY HALF -- HALF A MILLION A YEAR.

AND WITH REGARDS TO HOW THE NCAA BUDGETS THINGS, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A POOL.

AND IT´S NOT JUST ONE SIDE.

AND THEY JUST DON´T HAVE AN EXCUSE FOR THE LACK OF COVID SHOTS, OR COVID TESTING.

AND I KNOW THERE´S ANOTHER SCANDAL, OR ANOTHER INCIDENT RECENTLY AFTER THAT, WHICH WAS THE WOMEN´S NOT RECEIVING THE SAME WORKOUT EQUIPMENT.

HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THAT?

>> DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT MAKES YOUR BLOOD BOIL A LITTLE BIT.

SURE.

GO AHEAD, DMITRI.

>> I DON´T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE GIVEN DIFFERENT WORKOUT EQUIPMENT, OR EVEN LESS WORKOUT EQUIPMENT, IN GENERAL, GENERALLY.

I FEEL THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BE UPSET ABOUT IT.

BECAUSE WHAT´S THE DIFFERENCE?

WHY WOULD ONE TEAM RECEIVE DIFFERENT WORKOUT EQUIPMENT FROM ANOTHER TEAM?

OR EVEN DIFFERENT AMOUNTS?

IT PUTS THEM AT A DISADVANTAGE TO THEIR PEERS.

BECAUSE IF THE MEN´S TEAM IS ABLE TO PROGRESS THEMSELVES TO MEET A CERTAIN STANDARD, WHY CAN´T THE WOMEN´S TEAM DO THE SAME?

>> THE SAME SPORT, DOING THE SAME THINGS, THEY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME THING.

SAME EQUIPMENT, SAME COVID-19 TESTS.

YEAH, THE WHOLE SITUATION IS JUST A MESS.

>> NOW THE ARTICLE ALSO STATED THE ANTIGEN TEST THAT IS A FASTER TURNAROUND, BUT THE PCR TEST IS CONSIDERED THE GOLD STANDARD BECAUSE IT IDENTIFIES RNA SPECIFIC TO THE VIRUS.

QUESTION TO THE CAST.

DO YOU THINK THIS SHOWS THAT IN COLLEGE SPORTS, WOMEN´S PLAYERS ARE LESS VALUED THAN MEN´S PLAYERS?

JOSH?

>> YEAH.

I THINK 100%, AGAIN.

THEY DO NOT VALUE THE WOMEN AS MUCH AS THE MEN.

THEY THINK THAT THE WOMEN DON´T RACK AS MANY -- OR AS MUCH VIEWERSHIP AS THE MEN´S.

WHICH I MEAN, YES, THEY DON´T.

BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT´S ANOTHER PART THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY IN, WITH REGARDS TO ADDING MORE ADVERTISEMENT.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT BASKETBALL, ABOUT NBA, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF SPONSORSHIPS THAT I SEE, THE AMOUNT OF ADS AND STUFF.

SO YEAH, THEY DEFINITELY VALUE THE WOMEN LESS IN THOSE TYPES OF SPORTS.

>> DMITRI?

>> I FEEL LIKE EVEN -- YEAH, I AGREE THAT THEY´RE NOT VERY HIGHLY VALUED IN COLLEGE SPORTS.

BUT I FEEL THAT IT´S EVEN WORSE AS THEY PROGRESS INTO PROFESSIONAL LEAGUES.

LIKE FOR BASKETBALL, FOR EXAMPLE.

THE WOMEN´S NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION, I DON´T SEE AS MANY GAMES TELEVISED FOR THE PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE AS I DO FOR COLLEGE GAMES.

AND IT´S ALSO NOT TELEVISED IN GENERAL.

LIKE VERY RARELY WILL YOU FIND ONE ON TV.

AT LEAST ME PERSONALLY.

SO I FEEL, IF THERE WERE MORE -- IF THEY WERE MORE TELEVISED, THEY WOULD RECEIVE MORE ATTENTION, AND ULTIMATELY MAKE MORE MONEY.

>> I THINK JOSH AND DMITRI SUMMED UP EVERYTHING I HAVE TO SAY.

LIKE SURE, THE WOMEN´S TEAMS DON´T GET AS MUCH ATTENTION, DON´T GET AS MANY VIEWS.

BUT THAT´S BECAUSE OF ADVERTISEMENT, BUT YOU DON´T REALLY SEE THE WOMEN, YOU SEE THE MEN PLAYERS DOING THEIR THING, AND JUST LIKE, COOL, MEN, SPORTS.

BUT YOU DON´T SEE THE WOMEN.

YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO SEARCH FOR THEM TO FIND THEM.

BECAUSE I KNOW I BARELY SEE THEM.

I FEEL LIKE THAT´S A PROBLEM.

MORE ADVERTISEMENTS, THEY COULD HAVE MORE MONEY, THEY COULD HAVE BETTER THINGS AND HAVE IT BE MORE EQUAL.

>> JOSH, FOLLOWUP?

>> YEAH, I WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE THING.

PRETTY SURE THE MARCH MADNESS TOURNAMENTS, FOR WOMEN´S, THEY HAVE A TURNOUT AS MUCH AS A WIMBLEDON CHAMPIONSHIP.

WHICH IS JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE, IT´S A PRETTY BIG THING.

BUT THEY STILL DON´T VALUE IT AS MUCH AS THE MEN´S TOURNAMENTS.

>> NOW LOOKING AT OUR PROFESSIONAL SPORTS.

IVES MORGAN MAKES $450,000 AS THE HIGHEST-PAID WOMEN´S SOCCER PLAYER.

LIONEL MESSI EARNS IN THE RANGE OF $85.5 MILLION.

THERE´S A MEAN SHOW OF COMPARISON.

SUE BIRD AND LeBRON JAMES, BOTH 17 SEASONS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE LEAGUES, BOTH WITH FOUR NBA AND WNBA CHAMPIONSHIPS, BOTH WINNERS OF THE 2020 NBA/WNBA FINALS.

BUT LeBRON´S BONUS FOR WINNING WAS 3258% OF SUE´S.

DO YOU THINK THESE INSTANCES SHOW EVEN AT THE TOP OF THEIR GAME, FEMALE ATHLETES ARE CONSIDERED BELOW THEIR MALE COUNTERPARTS?

JOSH?

>> YEAH, I THINK, ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE SEEING ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THE INDUSTRY TREATS WOMEN.

I MEAN, WITH REGARDS TO THAT SOCCER PLAYER, ALEX -- I FORGET HER LAST NAME, SORRY.

BUT -- ALEX MORGAN.

BUT SHE -- THEIR TEAM, THEY WON THE WORLD CUP.

AND THERE WAS THIS WHOLE SCANDAL WITH REGARDS TO HOW THEY´RE BEING PAID.

AND THE LEAGUE HAD TO MAKE SOME MAJOR REFORMS.

BECAUSE, I MEAN, THEY JUST ARE NOT TREATED RIGHT.

>> DMITRI?

>> I AGREE WITH WHAT JOSH SAID.

I FEEL, MAYBE IF THE GAMES HAD MORE -- WERE TELEVISED MORE, RECEIVED MORE ATTENTION, THE LEAGUES WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY TO GIVE THE PLAYERS.

SO I FEEL LIKE THE BIG PAY GAP BETWEEN THE WOMEN´S ATHLETES AND MEN´S ATHLETES COMES FROM THE FACT THAT THE WOMEN´S LEAGUE DOESN´T PRODUCE AS MUCH MONEY, HAVE AS MUCH MONEY CIRCULATING THROUGH IT, AS THE MEN´S LEAGUE DOES.

>> JOSH?

>> YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, THEY ACTUALLY DO.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.

THESE LEAGUES, THEY´RE LIKE A WHOLE ASSOCIATION, LIKE THEY SHARE STUFF.

AND THEY ALLOCATE THEIR MONEY IN LIKE A GROUP.

BUT THEY CHOOSE TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO MEN´S.

LIKE COMPANIES LIKE AT&T, COCA-COLA, THEY SPONSOR THE MEN´S MORE THAN THEY DO THE WOMEN´S.

SO THE ASSOCIATION TENDS TO LEAN MORE TO THE MEN´S.

>> SPEAKING OF ENDORSEMENTS, NIKE HAS PROVIDED CAMPAIGNS LIKE "DREAM CRAZIER" AND "ONE DAY WE WON´T NEED THIS DAY" TO EMPOWER WOMEN, BUT EVEN ENDORSEMENTS AND PRODUCTS BY MAJOR BRANDS AREN´T AS VALUED.

THERE ARE SOME ONLINE WHO SAY, IF WOMEN WANT TO SEE MORE WOMEN, THEY SHOULD WATCH MORE WOMEN´S SPORTS, SUPPORT THESE WNBA PLAYERS.

QUESTION TO THE CAST ONCE AGAIN.

DO YOU THINK THAT WOMEN LOOKING TO SUPPORT OTHER WOMEN´S SPORTS IS IMPORTANT TO BRIDGING THE GAP?

OR IS IT ANOTHER INVISIBLE WALL?

>> WITH THAT, I FEEL LIKE IT SHOULDN´T JUST BE WOMEN SUPPORTING WOMEN.

LIKE I KNOW WE SHOULD, BUT WE SHOULD ASK SUPPORT OF MEN.

LIKE MENTIONED EARLIER, IF I PERSONALLY SAY I WANT TO SUPPORT THE WOMEN´S TEAM AND WATCH THEIR SPORTS, I WOULDN´T KNOW EVEN WHEN TO WATCH IT.

LIKE I SAID, I DON´T SEE ANY ADVERTISEMENTS FOR THEM WHATSOEVER.

I CAN´T EVEN EXPLAIN HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

BECAUSE IT´S JUST -- IT´S REALLY FRUSTRATING TO SEE WITH ALL OF THIS.

>> YEAH.

WITH REGARDS TO COMPANIES LIKE NIKE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SERIOUS CONTROVERSIES WITH REGARDS TO HOW THEY TREAT THEIR WOMEN ATHLETES, AS WELL.

THEY DO NOT GET ENOUGH REST -- OR, I MEAN, THEY DON´T GET ENOUGH REST, THEY TRAIN HARD, THEY DO ALL THESE THINGS TO MAKE THE PERFECT POSTER CHILD FOR THEIR CAMPAIGN.

BUT WHEN IT -- EVEN THOUGH THE MEN AREN´T TREATED AS NICELY IN THOSE SPONSORSHIPS EITHER BY NIKE, BUT THEY SEEM MARGINALLY BETTER RESPONSES FROM NIKE.

IT´S JUST STRANGE TO ME, THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> EXACTLY.

ESPECIALLY WITH THESE MORE FEMININE-DOMINATED SPORTS LIKE WOMEN´S GYMNASTICS.

IN RECENT YEARS THEY HAVE HAD MORE COVERAGE THAN THEIR MALE COUNTERPARTS.

IS THE SAME TRUE FOR THINGS LIKE DANCE?

QUESTION TO THE CAST, DO YOU THINK THAT´S BECAUSE THESE AVENUES ARE CONSIDERED MORE FEMININE AND HAVE MORE VALUE?

>> I´M NOT TOTALLY SURE.

WITH REGARDS TO THE GYMNASTICS, I DON´T -- I´M NOT SURE.

>> YEAH, I COULD PROBABLY SAY THAT THEY´RE BETTER BECAUSE IT´S CONSIDERED TO BE MORE FEMININE.

LIKE DANCING, WHEN YOU THINK OF DANCING, YOU THINK OF PRETTY BALLERINAS, WOMEN.

IT´S JUST KIND OF LIKE THAT.

BUT YEAH, I DON´T -- I DON´T EVEN KNOW HOW ELSE TO -- WHAT ELSE TO SAY ABOUT IT.

BUT IT MIGHT BE THAT.

>> DOES IT MEAN THAT PEOPLE IN THE DANCE WORLD DOING GYMNASTICS, MORE FEMININE-DOMINATED AREAS, SHOULD THEY FIGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS TO GET EQUAL PAY?

>> YES.

JUST PLAIN YES.

>> DOES IT ALSO TIE INTO THE FACT THAT FOR WOMEN TO BE VALUED, THEY MUST HAVE -- THEY HAVE TO APPEAL JUST AS MUCH AS THEY SHOW THEIR ABILITIES?

SHE HAS TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO BE VALUED.

>> IT SHOULDN´T, BUT THAT´S HOW IT IS IN TODAY´S SOCIETY.

I THINK THAT´S AN ISSUE.

IF WE COULD BE SUCCESSFUL, ATTRACTIVE, VALUABLE TO YOUR TEAM, WORKING HARD TO ATTRACT, LIKE OH MY GOSH, SHE´S ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD.

BUT YEAH, SADLY, I THINK SO.

>> AND FOR SPORTS LIKE CHEERLEADING.

DOES THIS ALSO TIE INTO IF PEOPLE BELIEVE THINGS LIKE THAT, EVEN A SPORT, OR DESERVE COMMEMORATION FOR THINGS WOMEN HAVE STRIVED TO DO OVER THE YEARS?

DMITRI?

>> EVEN IF THEY DON´T SEE IT AS A SPORT, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT´S A PROFESSION, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE PAID EQUALLY WITH YOUR COUNTERPARTS.

REGARDLESS OF IF IT´S AN ATHLETIC ACTIVITY OR NOT.

PERSONALLY, I SEE THAT IT COULD BE A SPORT.

BECAUSE THERE ARE COMPETITIONS WHERE YOU COMPETE AND IT REQUIRES ATHLETIC ABILITY TO PERFORM.

SO I PERSONALLY SEE IT AS A SPORT.

AND IT´S ALSO A PROFESSIONAL JOB.

SO I SEE NO REASON AS TO WHY WOMEN, FEMALE CHEERLEADERS, SHOULD RECEIVE SEPARATE PAY FROM MALE CHEERLEADERS.

>> THERE WAS AN NPR BROADCAST WHERE A GUEST STATED EQUALITY IN SPORTS CANNOT EXIST UNTIL THERE ARE NO LONGER MALE AND FEMALE DIVISIONS.

QUESTION TO THE CAST.

DO YOU THINK THIS IS EVEN TRUE?

>> WELL, FOR ME, IF YOU´RE GOING TO PUT TWO HEAVYWEIGHT FIGHTERS AND ONE´S A GUY, ONE´S A WOMAN, AND THEY´RE PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED, I´M GOING TO SAY THE GUY´S GOING TO WIN.

I JUST DON´T THINK THAT THE WOMAN CAN BE ABLE TO WIN THERE.

SO I FEEL LIKE IF YOU WERE TO PUT A WOMAN INTO THE SAME CATEGORY TO HAVE THAT EQUALITY, IT WOULDN´T BE AS EQUAL.

>> EARLIER THIS SEASON WE LOOKED AT GENDER NORMS, NOW WE LOOKED AT EQUAL PAY.

AND WOMEN IN HISTORY.

NOW WE´VE TAKEN A LOOK AT WHAT WOMEN ARE WORTH.

TO PUT A NUMBER TO THAT WORTH IS HARD.

THINKING ABOUT HOW THAT COULD BE MADE FAIR IS WORTHWHILE.

HOPEFULLY OUR DISCUSSION CAN GET YOU THINKING ABOUT A WOMAN´S WORTH.

WE´D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU NEXT TIME.

♫♫ ♫♫ ♫♫ >> THE VIEWS EXPRESSED ON THIS PROGRAM ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF WTJX, ITS BOARD, STAFF, OR UNDERWRITERS.