Graffiti Street
Graffiti Street: The Evolution of Women's Rights and History
Season 2 Episode 15 | 27m 41sVideo has Closed Captions
Host Jelani Phillips, Jr. leads the cast in a discussion on women's history evolution.
In this episode, Host Jelani Phillips, Jr. leads the cast in a discussion on the evolution of women's history and culture with special guest Senate President Donna Frett-Gregory.
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Graffiti Street
Graffiti Street: The Evolution of Women's Rights and History
Season 2 Episode 15 | 27m 41sVideo has Closed Captions
In this episode, Host Jelani Phillips, Jr. leads the cast in a discussion on the evolution of women's history and culture with special guest Senate President Donna Frett-Gregory.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship♫♫ ♫♫ ♫ MOVE YOUR HEADS TO THE BEAT, MOVE YOUR FEET, WHERE WE MEET ♫ ♫ MOVE YOUR HEAD TO THE BEAT, GET ON YOUR FEET, MOVE YOUR FEET WHERE WE MEET ♫ >>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO ANOTHER EPISODE OF "GRAFFITI STREET."
THIS EPISODE IN HONOR OF WOMEN´S HISTORY MONTH IN VIRGIN ISLANDS HISTORY MONTH WILL BE PUTTING THE WOMEN ON DISPLAY.
OUR DISCUSSION LOOKS AT WOMEN AND THEIR ROLE LOCALLY AND GLOBALLY.
OUR HISTORY IN THE PRESENT, HOW FAR WE´VE COME AND HOW FAR WE CAN GO.
JOINING US IN THE DISCUSSION IS SENATOR AND SENATE PRESIDENT OF THE 31st LEGISLATURE OF THE UNITED STATES VIRGIN ISLANDS, DONNA GREGORY, FOR OUR VIEWERS WHO DON´T KNOW YOU AS WELL, WOULD YOU MIND TELLING US A BIT ABOUT YOURSELF?
>> HI.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
IT IS INDEED A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AS THERE IS JUST A LOT TO TELL ABOUT MYSELF.
OF COURSE I´M A VIRGIN ISLANDER.
I´VE WORKED IN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE VIRGIN ISLANDS FOR 30 PLUS YEARS.
I´M THE MOTHER OF FOUR CHILDREN.
I AM NOW SERVING IN THE LEGISLATURE.
THIS IS MY SECOND TERM.
I HAVE A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN ADMINISTRATION.
I HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF THE VIRGIN ISLANDS.
I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER MASTERS IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION.
I´VE ACTUALLY SPENT SOME TIME IN HARVARD UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT WHERE I WORKED ON A STATE GOVERNMENT EDUCATION CERTIFICATE.
I AM A STICKLER FOR RESULTS, AND I PAY ATTENTION TO DETAILS, AND I TRULY LOVE THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS, AND I´M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS TERRITORY.
>> OKAY, WELL, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE CAST.
I KNOW WE´RE ALL GENERALLY PART OF A YOUNG GROUP.
SO DO ANY OF YOU KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE OF NAMES LIKE LUCINDA MILLER OR LORRAINE BERRY OUTSIDE OF BUILDINGS NAMED AFTER THEM?
NO?
>> SADLY, I DO NOT.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THAT´S A NO FOR ME.
BUT LUCINDA MILAN, APART FROM HAVING A NAME FOR THE ELDERLY WAS AN EDUCATOR, AND ALSO SHE WAS THE FIRST FEMALE EVER ELECTED TO THE UNITED STATES VIRGIN ISLANDS LEGISLATURE.
LORRAINE BERRY WAS THE SECOND PERSON TO HOLD THE POSITION IN THE LEGISLATURE ALSO.
WHEN YOU HEAR THE PHRASES "VIRGIN ISLANDS WOMEN" AND "HISTORY MAKERS," WHAT NAMES COME TO YOU?
>> I -- I DON´T KNOW.
LIKE DRAWS A BLANK WITH ME, PERSONALLY.
SO.
>> SINCE WE´RE OBVIOUSLY NOT VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THAT FACT, WOULD YOU LIKE THE TELL US ANY OF THEM, MISS FRETT-GREGORY?
>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF NAMES THAT COME TO MIND.
I DON´T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE HUGE IN HISTORY IN YOUR SCHOOLS, BUT IT´S VERY IMPORTANT THAT HISTORY IS TAUGHT IN YOUR SCHOOLS.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF WOMEN LEGISLATORS.
WE´VE HAD OUTSIDE OF LORRAINE BERRY, WE HAD ALICIA HANSEN.
WE´VE HAD WOMEN LEADERS LIKE RUBY MORALES.
IN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS.
THERE ARE SO MANY NAME, EDUCATORS WHOSE NAME COMES TO MIND.
YOU MENTIONED LUCINDA MILLIN.
THERE ARE SO MANY TRAIL BLAZERS.
I JUST WANT TO URGE YOU ALL DO TO DO SOME SEARCHING.
THERE ARE NAMES ON BUILDINGS IN THE TERRITORY RIGHT HERE IN THE LEGISLATURE OF THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, WE´VE HAD SEVERAL WOMEN SENATORS, NELLIA, SENATOR JANELLE SURILL.
ONE OF THE IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS.
I URGE OUR STUDENTS TO REALLY GET INVOLVED AND GET UP TO SPECK ON THE VIRGIN ISLANDS HISTORY, BECAUSE I SUSPECT YOU GUYS AT LEAST SENIORS OR JUNIORS IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND IT´S SO IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND YOUR HISTORY AND MOST DEFINITELY WOMEN HISTORY HERE IN THE TERRITORY.
WOMEN HAVE BEEN A TRAILBLAZER HERE IN THE TERRITORY FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
WE´VE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS.
WE HAVE THE YVONNE BELLSY SCHOOL.
SHE IS A VIRGIN ISLANDER.
JUDY M. GOMEZ, FORMER SENATOR JUDY M. GOMEZ WHO IS ALSO A WOMAN.
THOSE ARE NAMES THAT COME TO MIND AS I THINK ABOUT WOMEN IN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL GEORGE, SHE IS A VIRGIN ISLANDS WOMAN.
THERE IS A LOT OF WOMEN THAT YOU CAN RELATE BACK TO WHEN IT COME TOTS VIRGIN ISLANDS HISTORY AND WOMEN´S HISTORY MONTH HERE IN THE TERRITORY.
>> CHILDREN ARE USUALLY TREATED AS OBSTACLES OR -- NOT OBSTACLES, WELL, THINGS THAT MIGHT SLOW YOU DOWN OR MAKE IT HARDER FOR YOU TO GET SOME PLACE WHEN YOU´RE LIKE IN YOUR SUCCESS IN THE BUSINESS WORLD.
SO FOR A FEMALE, DO YOU THINK, OR FOR ANYONE, DO YOU THINK THAT CHILDREN WOULD BE HINDERING YOUR SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE?
>> I FEEL AS THOUGH ESPECIALLY WITH HAVING CHILDREN AND BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS SUCCESS AND TRYING TO GET YOUR COURAGE STARTED, FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE IT MIGHT BE A BURDEN OR OBSTACLE.
BUT I ALSO FEEL VERY DETERMINED AND AMBITIOUS TO GIVE YOUR CHILD THE BEST WELL-BEING OF LIFE.
IT´S GOING TO BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SHOW YOUR CHARACTER AND SHOW HOW STRONG YOU ARE.
AND SO I THINK IT´S WORTH IT IN THE END.
>> IF YOU´RE COMING -- I LOOK AT FROM THIS.
I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU´RE SAYING, BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE.
SO IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE IDEA TO WHEN YOU´RE GETTING OUT OF COLLEGE AND YOU´RE TRYING TO START YOUR CAREER.
YOU WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO STAVE OFF HAVING CHILDREN BECAUSE, I MEAN, I LOOK AT MYSELF, AND I REALIZE HOW MUCH I EAT.
AND THAT´S A LOT OF MONEY GOING INTO JUST FOOD.
AND THEN YOU GOT TO GET EDUCATION AND THEN ALSO CLOTHES.
SOME OF THE BASIC THINGS THAT CHILDREN NEED.
AND I THINK IT´S HARD TO START A CAREER BY HAVING CHILDREN.
>> YEAH, HAVING A CAREER AND CHILDREN DEFINITELY IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO BALANCE OUT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO BOTH YOUR CHILD AND ATTENTION IF YOU HAVE A CAREER.
YOU DON´T WANT TO HAVE KIDS AS YOU´RE TRYING TO START YOUR CAREER.
MAYBE WHEN YOU´RE IN A COMFORTABLE POSITION AND YOU KNOW YOU´RE MAKING ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN CARE FOR A CHILD THEN I THINK YOU CAN BALANCE THAT TOGETHER.
OTHER THAN THAT, THE CHILD MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN IMPEDIMENT.
>> I TOTALLY AGREE.
I FEEL LIKE GETTING A CHILD WOULD BE SITUATIONAL, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TIMING.
BUT THE NEXT QUESTION, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE BALANCE MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR A WOMAN TO TAKE CARE OF A CHILD WHEN SHE IS STARTING HER CAREER, SINCE THERE MORE OF THE HEAVIER CARE TAKERS WHEN IT COMES TO CHILDREN?
>> WELL, ESPECIALLY IN SOCIETY, WOMEN ARE MORE EXPECTED TO STAY HOME AND TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN.
SO IF YOU ARE THAT, BECAUSE MATERNITY LEAVE, IF YOU GO HOME TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR CHILDREN, YOU REALLY HAVE TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON´T LOSE YOUR JOB, BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS.
AND IT´S LIKE MORE PRESSURE FOR WOMEN.
YOU´RE EXPECTED TO TAKE CARE OF KIDS, RATHER THAN EXPECTATIONS OF MEN WHEN IT COMES TO CHILDREN.
>> I TOTALLY WOULD AGREE.
MY MOTHER IS A SINGLE MOTHER.
SO I´VE SEEN THE STRUGGLE THAT SHE HAD TO GO THROUGH, THE SACRIFICES THAT SHE HAD TO MAKE JUST TO KEEP A ROOF OVER MY HEAD.
AND IT DEFINITELY MAKES YOU MORE GRATEFUL AS A CHILD TO SEE YOUR PARENT DO ALL THAT, THE THINGS FOR YOU JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU´RE FED AND YOU´RE HEALTHY AND YOU´RE GOING TO A GOOD SCHOOL AND YOU´RE GETTING YOUR EDUCATION, BECAUSE THOSE THINGS MATTER IN THE FUTURE.
I DEFINITELY THINK IT IS A HARDER BURDEN ON WOMEN.
I MEAN, SINGLE DADS TOO.
BUT AS WHAT JADA SAID, BECAUSE SOCIETY EXPECTS WOMEN TO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN, I FEEL LIKE IT DOES ADD A LITTLE EXTRA WEIGHT, SOMETIMES ESPECIALLY ON A SINGLE MOTHER.
>> ANYTHING ELSE?
>> SENATOR, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN?
>> I THINK THAT IF -- YOU SHOULD REALLY TRY TO HAVE CHILDREN AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME IN YOUR CAREER, OR AS YOU BECOME AN ADULT.
HAVING A CHILD IS A VERY, VERY SERIOUS RESPONSIBILITY.
THERE IS A LOT OF TIME WHERE YOUNG WOMEN THINK THAT IT´S OKAY TO HAVE CHILDREN WITHOUT HAVING A FATHER, IF YOU WILL, TO HELP TAKE CARE OF THAT CHILD.
AND IN TODAY´S SOCIETY, I THINK IT´S JUST SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO BALANCE YOUR CAREER ALONG WITH MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION AROUND WHEN YOU SHOULD HAVE -- YOU GET TO HAVE A FAMILY.
IT´S IMPORTANT THAT WE BUILD FAMILY.
WE LOOK AROUND IN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY AND WE SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CAUSES AND EFFECT ARE AROUND NOT REALLY BUILDING FAMILIES.
WE LOOK AT THE WAY OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, MANY OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING AND NOT GETTING THE ATTENTION THAT THEY NEED.
I REALLY THINK IT´S VERY CRITICAL THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT DECISION IS MADE IN THE PROPER WAY.
I´LL TELL YOU, THOUGH, ABOUT MYSELF.
I WAS A YOUNG MOTHER.
I HAD MY FIRST CHILD WHEN I WAS A SENIOR IN COLLEGE.
BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR DETERMINATION AND THE RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR PARTNER AND HOW YOU CAN TRAVERSE THAT LANDSCAPE AS A NEW PARENT, AS SOMEONE WHO IS STILL TRYING TO MAKE A CAREER FOR THEMSELVES.
SO IT´S ABOUT THE SUPPORT SYSTEM.
IT´S ABOUT THE VILLAGE.
SO YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT YOUR VILLAGE IS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
SO IT DEPENDS, BUT MY STRONG, STRONG SUGGESTION IS THAT YOU FIGURE OUT HOW DO YOU BALANCE THAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HAVING A CHILD, YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER, AND YOUR CAREER.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THIS IS A QUESTION TO THE CAST.
IN THE RECENT YEARS IN OUR LIFETIME, THERE HAS BEEN VALEDICTORIAN AND SALUTATORIAN RANKS ALL ACROSS THE SCHOOLS.
AND THEY´VE BEEN TAKEN UP BY YOUNG WOMEN.
DO YOU FEEL AS THIS SHOWS A POTENTIAL SHIFT FOR WOMEN TAKING ON NEW AND HIGHER ROLES IN OUR COMMUNITY?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
100%.
>> DEFINITELY WITH MORE MALE-DOMINATED THINGS, I FEEL LIKE THE MORE WOMEN THAT SEE OTHER GIRLS CAN DO IT TOO, IT DEFINITELY GIVES A CONFIDENCE BOOSTER TO MAKE YOU WANT TO PUSH, TO PUSH YOUR LIMITS AND SEE HOW FAR YOU CAN PUSH YOUR BRAIN AND PUSH YOURSELF TO DO THINGS OUT OF THE ORDINARY.
SO I DO THINK IT´S A VERY REVOLUTIONARY THING FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS TO PUSH THEMSELVES TO JUST, I DON´T KNOW, SEE WHAT THEY CAN REALLY ACCOMPLISH.
>> YEAH, DEFINITELY.
AND IT ALSO SHOWS THAT THE WOMEN ARE SCHOOL ORIENTED.
AND AS TO WHAT ALEX SAID, IT GIVES YOU A BOOST BECAUSE YOU´RE WILLING TO TRY HARDER TO BECOME VALEDICTORIAN, THEN YOU MAY WANT TO TRY AND EVEN OUT THE WORKFORCE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU´RE THERE ARE NOT MORE MALE DOMINANCE.
LIKE IN THE WORKFORCE, BUT IT´S MORE EQUAL SO THAT IT WORKS BETTER IN THE FUTURE, I GUESS.
>> I HEAR THAT THERE IS A -- ON YOUR TEAM, SENATOR FRETT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US IF YOU SEE THE SHIFT FIRSTHAND AT ALL?
>> I DO HAVE ON MY TEAM.
HER NAME -- SHE IS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME YOUNG LADY.
SHE IS SOMEONE THAT DEFINITELY IS ABLE TO BREAK THE GLASS CEILING.
SHE HAS DONE SO WELL WORKING IN MY OFFICE.
I SEE HER HAVING THE EXCELLENT POTENTIAL.
I SEE HER DOWN THE ROAD SERVING AS A LEADER IN THIS COMMUNITY.
BUT I THINK FROM A VALEDICTORIAN, SALUTATORIAN PERSPECTIVE, MANY OF OURS THROUGHOUT THE TERRITORIES HAVE BEEN GIRLS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SEEK OTHER POTENTIAL.
A LOT OF TIMES YOU SEE THE KBIRLS, BUT A LOT OF -- WE DON´T PUSH.
SO IT´S ALL ABOUT SUPPORTING OTHER WOMEN.
I THINK IT´S IMPORTANT FOR WOMEN TO SUPPORT OTHER WOMEN.
AND WE WILL SEE THAT THE POTENTIAL OF WOMEN WILL JUST EXPLODE AS WE ARE SEEING ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL, AS WE´RE SEEING RIGHT HERE IN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS.
MANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HERE IN THE TERRITORY ARE WOMEN.
WE SEE THAT THE LAST TWO ELECTIONS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AS WELL AS ON THE MAINLAND, RATHER, AS WELL AS HERE IN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, MANY OF THE ELECTED LEADERS ARE IN FACT WOMEN.
SO WE SEE THAT WE´RE BREAKING THE GLASS CEILING.
SO IT´S ALL ABOUT HOW DO WE SUPPORT OTHER WOMEN.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
THIS QUESTION CAN GO TO ANYONE.
RECENTLY TEACHING HAS BEEN VIEWED AS A -- PROFESSION SEEING AS MOST OF THE TIME THE TEACHERS ARE WOMEN THAT ARE YOUNGER OR JUST COMING OUT OF COLLEGE.
FOR YEARS THIS WASN´T THE CASE.
SO DO YOU THINK THE FACT THAT EDUCATION -- THE EDUCATION IS NOW VIEWED AS A FEMALE PROFESSION CONTRIBUTES TO POOR PAY THAT THEY RECEIVE?
>> IF I CAN TAKE THAT.
I THINK YOU SAID THAT WOMEN, THAT THE TEACHING PROFESSION THESE DAYS ARE BASICALLY GEARED TOWARD WOMEN.
BUT AS I LOOK BACK IN HISTORY, THE TEACHING PROFESSION, WOMEN HAVE ALWAYS LED IN THE TEACHING PROFESSION.
I CAN LOOK BACK, I´M A LOT OLDER THAN YOU ALL ARE.
WHEN I WAS IN EVEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, LITERALLY ALL THE TEACHERS WERE WOMEN.
AS I TRAVERSED TO JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING, AND SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL.
THE TEACHING PROFESSION HAS MOST DEFINITELY ALWAYS IF YOU ASKED ME BEEN A WOMAN PROFESSION, A PROFESSION WHERE WOMEN HAVE DOMINATED THOSE -- THAT PARTICULAR PROFESSION.
I DON´T KNOW THAT IT´S TIED TO THAT THE LOW PAY IS REALLY TIED TO THE PROFESSION.
IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE NEGOTIATING.
MANY OF THE TEACHING PROFESSIONS ARE UNIONS.
SO UNIONS PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN HOW THE SALARIES MOVE.
I WOULD NOT VENTURE TO SAY THAT IT´S TIED -- THAT THE LOW SALARY FOR THE TEACHING PROFESSION IS BECAUSE IT´S DOMINATED BY WOMEN.
>> SO I -- I AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT OF WOMEN PREDOMINANTLY LEADING THE FIELD IN TEACHING YEARS PRIOR, BUT MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IS IT HERE IN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS?
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD I WOULD SAY THAT IT WAS LED BY PREDOMINANTLY WHITE MALES.
BECAUSE OF THE RESOURCES THAT THEY HAD IN THEIR ALLOWED PRIVILEGES THROUGHOUT HISTORY.
>> I GUESS THAT´S POUR ME.
BASED ON THE INFORMATION I HAVE AND WHAT I´VE SEEN AS I GREW UP HERE IN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, AND AS I LOOK BACK TO HISTORY, EVEN ON THE MAINLAND, YOU SEE WHERE MANY OF THE TEACHING PROFESSION -- I BEG TO DIFFER.
I GUESS THAT´S WHAT I´M SAYING.
YES, THEY MAY BE MALE DOMINATED IN SOME STATES, BUT OVERALL I THINK IT´S -- YOU ALWAYS LOOK TO WOMEN AS TEACHERS.
SO I HAVE TO SAY THAT I LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY FROM YOU.
WE HAVE TO GET THE STATISTICS ON THAT.
WE HAVE TO GET THE STATS, YES.
>> I DEFINITELY HAVE TO SAY THAT´S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
MAYBE TEACHERS DON´T GET AS MUCH BECAUSE IT´S DOMINATED BY WOMEN.
BUT I THINK IT ALSO GOES BACK TO HOW WOMEN ARE BETTER WITH CHILDREN.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT´S WHY WE MOSTLY SEE MORE WOMEN AS TEACHERS.
BECAUSE PERSONALLY, I´VE ONLY HAD THREE MALE TEACHERS IN MY ENTIRE SCHOOL CAREER, AND THE REST HAVE BEEN WOMEN.
THAT´S REALLY SOMETHING.
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY.
THIS IS A QUESTION TO THE CAST.
WHEN YOU HEAR THE TERM "VOCATIONAL AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION," WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT?
>> I PERSONALLY THINK ABOUT PLUMBERS OR JUST ANYTHING THAT HAS LIKE HANDS-ON TYPE OF WORK.
THAT´S WHAT I VIEW TO BE.
>> YEAH, I AGREE.
PLUMBERS OR ELECTRICIANS DEFINITELY COME TO MIND WHEN I HEAR VOCATIONAL SCHOOL.
MORE HANDS-ON.
>> OKAY.
>> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH JADEN AND JOSH.
>> MY NEXT QUESTION IS, WE NORMALLY SEE WOMEN IN BUSINESS AND FINANCE.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE PLUMBING, AUTO MECHANICS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS A FIELD DOMINATED BY WOMEN AT ALL?
>> I WOULD HAVE TO SAY IT DEPENDS.
I CAN´T REMEMBER IF I´VE EVER SEEN A FEMALE PLUMBER COME TO MY HOUSE OR A FEMALE ELECTRICIAN.
JUST ME PERSONALLY.
I DON´T THINK I HAVE EVER SEEN THAT.
I´VE NEVER SEEN THE TRUCK COME WITH A WOMAN TECHNICIAN.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD MAKE REFORM TO THAT, AND THEY SHOULD BE DOMINATING THAT -- OR THEY SHOULD BE IN THAT FIELD.
>> SO IF I HEAR CORRECTLY, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THEY COULD DOMINATE THOSE FIELDS?
>> WELL, I DON´T THINK DOMINATE THE FIELD, BUT I THINK THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE IN EVERY PROFESSION WHETHER IT BE PLUMBING, WHETHER IT BE ELECTRICIAN.
I THINK INDIVIDUALS SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DREAM AND BE WHATEVER THEY WANT TO BE.
SOMETIMES THERE IS THE STIGMA THAT IF YOU ARE A PLUMBER OR AN ELECTRICIAN, THEN AS A WOMAN, YOU ARE LOOKED AT A CERTAIN WAY.
BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT´S IMPORTANT IS TO ALLOW EVERYONE, EVERYONE INCLUDING MALES BUT IN THIS CASE WE´RE TALKING ABOUT FEMALES.
SO EVERYONE, EVERY FEMALE, IF SHE WANTS TO DREAM TO BECOME A PLUMBER, SHE COULD SHOULD BE ABLE TO DREAM AND BECOME A PLUMBER.
BUT I DON´T KNOW THAT IT COULD BECOME A FEMALE-DOMINATED INDUSTRY, BUT MOST DEFINITELY WOMEN SHOULD BE GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.
>> YEAH, I FEEL LIKE THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DOMINATE THE FIELD, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE ISSUE COMES IN WITH LIKE THE CUSTOMERS WHO MAY NOT TRUST A WOMAN AS A PLUMBER, ELECTRICIAN.
THEY SAY OH, IT´S MORE OF A MEN´S JOB.
WOMEN CAN´T DO IT.
THEY´RE TOO DELICATE OR TOO DUMB TO KNOW WHAT THEY´RE DOING.
AND I THINK THAT´S THE MAIN REASON WHY IT´S NOT EQUAL OR WHY IT´S MORE MALE DOMINANCE.
>> STEREOTYPES SEEM TO RUN A LOT THE WAY PEOPLE THINK ABOUT CERTAIN SITUATIONS AND EVERYTHING.
BUT THIS IS DIRECTED TOWARDS THE MALES IN THE GROUP.
DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU COULD SEE YOURSELF IN A FIELD SUCH AS COSMETOLOGY OR SOMETHING AND THE LIKE?
>> YOU SEE -- NO.
I DO NOT FIND JOY IN THAT.
I WANT TO DO VIDEO WORK, WHICH IS NOT -- I DON´T WANT TO DO MAKEUP OR HAIR OR NAILS.
THAT´S -- THAT´S NOT FOR ME.
PERSONALLY.
>> HONESTLY, I DON´T FEEL ANYTHING BAD ABOUT GOING TO BECOME COSMETOLOGY.
IT´S JUST IF ANYTHING, IT WOULD BE BEING A BARBER, BECAUSE WHEN I GO TO THE BARBER, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ENJOY THEIR JOB.
AND THAT´S WHAT I WANT FOR MYSELF.
I WANT A JOB THAT I CAN ENJOY WHILE STILL MAKING AN INCOME.
SO PERSONALLY, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GOING INTO A FEMALE-RUN FIELD, BUT THAT´S NOT WHAT I WANT TO DO.
WELL, SINCE JOSH BROUGHT IT UP, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK YOU´D BE DOING IN THIS NEXT TEN YEARS?
WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR PROFESSION WILL BE?
>> I WOULD HAVE TO SAY UNDECIDED.
BUT MAYBE SOMETHING WITH A PSYCHOLOGY DEGREE.
OTHER THAN THAT, I´M NOT SURE.
>> DEFINITELY HAVE TO GO WITH JADEN AND STILL SAY UNDECIDED, BUT DEFINITELY WANT TO BE IN THE FIELD OF VETERINARY MEDICINE, VETERINARY ENGINEERING, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
YOU DON´T KNOW.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING THAT GENERAL.
>> YOU KNOW IT´S OKAY TO BE UNDECIDED, RIGHT?
IT´S REALLY A GOOD THING TO BE UNDECIDED BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY EXPLORE, TO REALLY FIND OUT WHAT YOU´RE TRULY INTERESTED IN.
A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE GO TO COLLEGE TO GET A DEGREE IN A PARTICULAR AREA, AND THEN THEY COME OUT OF COLLEGE AND REALIZE YOU KNOW WHAT?
THAT´S NOT REALLY FOR ME.
SO UNDECIDEDED IS NOT A BAD THING.
IT´S REALLY A GOOD THING.
IT ALLOWS YOU TO EXPLORE TO REALLY DETERMINE WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO BE.
>> I AGREE.
BUT NORMALLY YOUR PARENTS OR PEOPLE AROUND YOU WILL TRY TO GET YOU TO MAKE UP YOUR MIND BEFORE YOU GO OUT INTO THE REAL WORLD AND GO INTO COLLEGE AND STUDY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
BUT THIS IS THE LAST QUESTION, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WRAP UP.
TEN YEARS FROM NOW, THIS IS FOR THE CAST, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, DO YOU EXPECT TO BE MAKING THE SAME AMOUNT MONEY THAT YOUR MALE COUNTERPARTS ARE?
>> ACTUALLY, I EXPECT TO BE MAKING MORE.
>> YEAH, I WOULD HOPE SO.
>> I EXPECT TO BE MAKING MORE.
>> MY CAREER, BECAUSE I´M REALLY GOAL-ORIENTED.
BUT THE WAY THAT SOCIETY IS RIGHT NOW, I DON´T KNOW IF WE´RE GOING TO BE THERE IN TEN YEARS.
MAYBE 90 CENTS TO THE MAN´S DOLLAR, BUT NOT PROBABLY DOLLAR TO THE DOLLAR.
>> ALEX?
WHY DO YOU FEEL YOU SHOULD BE MAKING MORE?
>> BECAUSE IT´S BEEN SUCH A LONG TIME SINCE PEOPLE HAVE SEEN WOMEN REALLY RISING ABOVE THAT STANDARD OF JADEN SAID 90 CENTS TO THE DOLLAR MAN COUNTERPART.
BUT OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, BACK AT WHAT JADEN SAID, I´M ALSO VERY GOAL-ORIENTED.
I´M AMBITIOUS.
IF I WANT SOMETHING, I´M GOING TO GO FOR IT.
AND IF THAT MEANS I HAVE TO GET IN FRONT OF A MAN TO DO THIS, I WILL.
I DO EXPECT TO BE WORKING HARDER THAN THEM.
>> OKAY.
I CAN SEE SOME POWER BEHIND THAT STATEMENT.
BUT NOW WE´RE RUNNING LONG TIME.
SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, SENATOR FRETT-GREGORY, AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE IN THE CAST WHO CAME FOR THIS EPISODE.
>> THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
THIS WAS REALLY AWESOME.
WOMEN IN TEN YEARS WILL BE RIGHT AT THE SAME LEVEL SALARY WISE OR ABOVE IN TEN YEARS.
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