>> Ted: NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, A DISCUSSION ON THE GROWING CONCERNS OF FENTANYL IN THE STATE.

AND LATER IN THE HOUR ON CRONKITE NEWS, WHAT'S BEHIND THE INCREASING NUMBER OF ROBO CALLS.

WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

FORMER PRESIDENT OBAMA IS IN THE VALLEY FOR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES AND KIDDED SCHEDULED TO APPEAR AT CESAR CHAVES HIGH SCHOOL AND GUBERNATORIAL KATIE HOBBS.

THIS IS PRESIDENT OBAMA'S FIRST VISIT TO ARIZONA SINCE LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE.

IT'S THE SIXTH INCREASE.

HERE IS FED CHAIR JEROME POWELL.

>> MY COLLEAUGESMY COLLEAGUES AND I HAVE STRONGLY COMMITTED TO BRINGING IT DOWN AND WE HAVE THE TOOLS WE NEED AND THE RESOLVE TO RESTORE PRICE STABILITY ON BEHALF OF AMERICAN FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES.

PRICE STABILITY IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND SERVES AS THE BEDROCK.

>> Ted: HE SAID IT WAS REMATURE TO THINK ABOUT HIKES.

>>> A VACCINE TO PROTECT OLDER ADULTS AGAINST RSV IN THE WORKS FOR CAUSING SEVERE ILLNESS IN YOUNG CHILDREN AND COULD HIT SENIORS HARD, TOO, AND THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY GSK DEVELOPED A VACCINE FOR SENIORS THAT HAS BEEN ACCEPTED FOR COMPANIES AND COULD BE READY FOR RELEASE BY NEXT SPRING AND PFIZER ANNOUNCING POSITIVE RESULTS ON ITS RSV VACCINE FOR INFANTS.

AN FCC COMMISSIONER CALLING FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO BAN TIKTOK RATHER THAN WORK OUT THE CHINA-BASED APP TO CONTINUE OPERATING IN THE U.S.

IT INVOLVES CHINESE AUTHORITIES GAINING ACCESS TO DATA THAT TIKTOK HOMEDS HOLDS ON CITIZENS.

>>> FENTANYL DEATHS AMONG KIDS 17 AND YOUNGER INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE PAST FEW YEAR.

FENTANYLFEWYEARS.

STEPHANIE IS A LEADING EXPERT ON PREVENTION AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

LET'S DO BASICS FIRST.

WHAT IS FENTANYL?

>> AN EXTREME OPIOID.

I LICK TO EXPLAIN THIS.

PRESCRIPTION PAINKILLERS AND THEN BIG SISTER IS HEROIN.

PRESCRIPTION PAINKILLERS.

THEY BECAME ABUSED AND PEOPLE GOT ADDICTED AND THEY WERE PRICEY AND PEOPLE PROGRESSED INTO OTHER DRUGS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DRUG CALLED FENTANYL THAT'S AN EXTREME OPIOID.

>> Ted: HOW POTENT AND ADDICTIVE IS THIS?

>> I'M GLAD TO PUT THIS OUT THERE AND HEROIN IS STRONG AND PROGRESSED OVER THE YEARS AND YOU GET INTO FENTANYL AND THAT'S 50 TIMES STRONGER THAN HEROIN AND SOME REPORTS SAY EVEN MORE AND ADDICTIVE AND STRONG STUFF.

>> Ted: CASES ARE SKYROCKETING IN ARIZONA AND WHY IS THAT?

>> AGAIN, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED ABOUT ARIZONA.

I DO EDUCATION ALL OVER ABOUT DIFFERENT DRUGS AND AS PEOPLE IN ARIZONA, SOME DRUGS ARE BOUND FORWARD OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTRY AND THEY COME THROUGH OUR STATE AND WE'LL SEE THIS FIRST AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A BIGGER PROBLEM HERE.

>> Ted: WHERE IT'S PRODUCED FOR THE MOST PART?

>> SOUTH OF THE BORDER.

>> Ted: COMES THROUGH OR BRANCHES OUT?

>> YEAH.

YOU HEAR A LOT ON A DAILY NOTE HOW MUCH IS STREET STOPS AND TRAFFIC STOPS AND AT THE BORDER, MILLIONS OF PILLS AND OVER 20 MILLION PILLS THAT HAVE CROSSED INTO ARIZONA JUST IN 2022 AND I'M PLAYING THAT CONSERVATIVELY.

OVER 20 MILLION PILLS.

>> Ted: CHILDREN ESPECIALLY SUSCEPTIBLE AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT?

>> ONLY MINISCULE AMOUNTS OF THIS AND CAN BE TAINTED INTO ANYTHING.

USUALLY PILLS, BUT CAN BE POWDERS, PATCHES, LIQUIDS AND ANY FORM AND NO RIGHT OR WRONG FORM.

WE SAW MOST RECENTLY JUST A WEEK AGO HOW IT WAS LIKE A SPECTACLED RAINBOW OF COLORS.

IF YOU AREN'T TALKING TO YOUR KID ABOUT CANDY-LIKE LOOKING SUBSTANCES, YOU SHOULD BE AT A HEIGHTENED ALERT.

>> Ted: IT CAN BE MIXED WITH COCAINE, METH, HEROIN?

>> YOU ARE TRIGGERING MY BRAIN TO TALK ABOUT AND NOTHING IS VANILLA.

NO PLAIN DRUGS TODAY.

THAT'S A BIG TAKE AWAY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A PARENT.

WE GO WHEN KIDS ARE TEENS, EXPERTALEXPERIMENTAL AGE, YOU'LL HAVE YOUR FENTANYL CUT INTO HEROIN, COCAINE, MARIJUANA, METHAMPHETAMINE AND 70 IS CUT WITH FENTANYL.

>> Ted: FROM A BUSINESSPERSON'S ASPECT, IF I'M A DEALER, WHY WOULD I WANT CHILDREN TO GET AHOLD OF THIS?

>> I DON'T THINK A CARTEL WANTS CHILDREN TO GET AHOLD OF IT AND THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION.

WE HAVE AN OPIOID CRISIS AND PILLS ARE EXPENSIVE AND HEROIN, YOU BUILD UP A TOLERANCE AND YOU NEED TO TAKE CERTAIN DOSING AND FENTANYL BEING THE EXTREME.

SO AT A LOW PRICE POINT, IF YOU'VE BUILT UP A TOLERANCE, YOU COULD TAKE FENTANYL.

THE BIGGEST CONCERN WITH CHILDREN IS ACCIDENTAL POISONING, UNINTENTIONAL.

IF YOU'VE BEEN USING FOR WEEKS, MONTHS, YEARS, YOU MIGHT BE FINE.

IF YOU'RE A 15-YEAR-OLD, 19-YEAR-OLD KID AND IT'S CUT WITH FENTANYL AND THIS IS YOUR FIRST SUPPORT, YOU COULD INSTANTLY DIE FROM IT.

>> Ted: WHERE ARE KIDS FINDING THIS?

I IMAGINE THE INTERNET IS A NUMBER ONE?

SOCIAL MEDIA BUT FRIENDS AND IT'S NOT THAT HARD.

SALES ARE -- YOU COULD GO DOWN TO THE BORDER AND YES, A LOT OF -- TALKING ABOUT TIKTOK AND SNAPCHAT AND MORE DEALS ARE DONE ON SOCIAL MEDIA APPS LIKE THAT AND PARENTS NEED TO MONITOR THEIR KID'S SOCIAL MEDIA.

I CAN GIVE EXAMPLES OF CAMERAS AT THE HOMES ARE CATCHING THE DEALS AND THE DEATHS.

PARENTS ARE SAYING IT WAS AS EASY AS ORDERING A PETE DISA.

PIZZA.

THE PANDEMIC INCREASED DRUGS ACROSS THE BORDER.

NOT ONLY WERE YOU COPING WITH STRESS AND ANXIETY AND THE UNKNOWN BUT SO WERE THE ADULTS.

AN INCREASE IN SUBSTANCE USE AND AN INCREASE IN SUBSTANCE DEATHS.

FENTANYL JUST COLLIDED WITH THE PANDEMIC.

>> Ted: IT SEEMS LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA, THE PANDEMIC, YOU PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER AND IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE AN EXPLODING SITUATION.

WHAT DO YOU TELL ADULTS, PARENTS?

OBVIOUSLY, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU PURCHASE A PILL ILLICITLY AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR TROUBLE?

>> THEY SAID MY KID CHOSE TO USE A PILL AND DIDN'T CHOOSE TO DIE.

I'M KNOWN FOR BEING DIRECT AND I'M EDUCATING PARENTING TO BEING JUST AS DIRECT.

ONE PILL CAN KILL.

OLD SCHOOL, YOU DON'T TAKE CANDY FROM A STRANGER AND YOU DON'T TAKE UNKNOWN FROM A FRIEND.

NOWADAYS, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM, YOU DON'T TAKE A SUBSTANCE THAT'S IN A BAGGIE OR SOMETHING BOUGHT OFF THE STREET.

YOU DON'T TAKE IT, PERIOD.

>> Ted: TOUGH LOVE, TOUGH ADVICE TO PARENTS TO ADULTS IS, LAY IT ON THE LINE?

>> IF YOU'RE NOT TALKING TO YOUR KIDS, SOMEONE AT THE SCHOOL IS.

I WOULD SAY THE SHORT VERSION IS, TEEN BRAIN, LACK OF LIFE EXPERIENCE.

THEY DON'T KNOW AND IF YOU DON'T EDUCATE THEM, THEY MIGHT BE EXPOSED TO SOMEONE OFFERING THEM SOMETHING AT A PARTY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEENAGERS WHO ARE INVINCIBLE AND DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER AND PERCEIVED RISK.

IF THEY DON'T TOE DON'T KNOW THIS IS DANGEROUS, THEY MIGHT TRY IT OR KNOW IT MIGHT BE MIXED WITH SOMETHING ELSE.

WE HEAR ABOUT NARCAN AND IT'S NASAL SPRAY, THAT'S NOT A SAVIOUR.

YOU ALSO WOULD NEED IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE AFTER.

EVEN IF THE SPRAY WAKES SOMEONE UP, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE SAFE BUT IT'S EVERYWHERE.

I'M TRYING TO GET RESOURCES OUT THERE TO PEOPLE.

JUST FOE THERE'S HOPE AND NOT JUST TO LIVE IN FEAR BUT JUST TO BE AWARE AND EDUCATED.

>> Ted: WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, BUT IS THIS SOMETHING TO BE THINKING OF FENTANYL IN THE PAST OR IS THIS GOING TO BE AROUND AWHILE?

>> IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE BUT THERE'S OTHER FORMS OF FENTANYL.

CARFENTANYL AND THE FACT I COULD NAME VARIOUS FENTANYL.

DRUGS ARE PROFITABLE AND WE NEED TO STAY AHEAD OF IT AND NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

>> Ted: THANKS FOR JOINING US.

UP NEXT, EFFORTS TO HELP MILITARY VETERANS TO ADVANCE FORM TO CIVILIAN CAREERS.

>> THE VETERAN'S IMAGINATION PROJECT FOR SCIENCE AND THE IMAGINATION USES NEW WAYS OF THINKING TO HELP VETERANS TRANSITION TO CIVILIAN CAREERS.

THE PROJECT RECEIVED A GRANT TO EXPAND ITS WORK AFTER A SUCCESSFUL PILOT WITH ASU VETERANS LAST SPRING.

WE WELCOME BOB BEARD AT THE CENTRE FOR SCIENCE AND THE IMAGINATION AND ERIK VILLEGAS, AN ASU VETERAN.

BOB, WE'LL START WITH YOU, AND VETERAN'S IMAGINATION PROJECT AND SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE USING CREATIVE IDEAS FOR PEOPLE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY.

>> FUTURE THINKING, ART, SCIENCE FICTION, STORY-TELLING AND ALL OF THAT IF A WAY TO MODEL SORT OF NEW MENTAL MODELS FOR FOLKS OUT OF THE MILITARY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER THIS A JOB CHANGE OR RELOCATION.

BUT IT'S A FUNDAMENTALLAL, PERSONAL TRANSFORMATION AFFECTING PEOPLE'S PSYCHOLOGY AND SO MUCH OF THEIR POST SERVICE IDENTITY AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO SORT OF GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO NAVIGATE THAT FUTURE.

>> Ted: FUTURE THINKING, GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE.

>> THIS IS A SKILL THAT'S INCREASINGLY USING BY FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, LARGE ORGANIZATIONS, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND EVEN PLACES IN THE MILITARY, RIGHT?

THIS IS ABOUT DEVELOPING THESE NEW SKILLS AND TOOLS TO MODEL WHERE THE FUTURE MIGHT BE AND REHEARSE FOR THE FUTURE YOU WANT,.

FOR THESE BIG ORGANIZES, IT'S IN A STRATEGIC INTEREST TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE FUTURE IS GOING TO MARTIAL RESOURCES TO BE SUSTAINABLE AMID A FUTURE THAT'S JUST BEING CHANGED SO RADICALLY.

>> Ted: WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA FOR INDIVIDUALS AND ERIK, WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS WHEN YOU LEARNED ABOUT THIS?

>> THANK YOU.

I WAS A PART OF THE PILOT PROGRAM YOU MENTIONED IN THE SPRING AND STARTED AT ASU IN 2020 AND MET BOB THROUGH A WORK COLLEAGUE AND FOUND OUT HE WAS TEACHING A COURSE AND SO, I TOOK PART IN THE PROGRAM AND REALLY, BOB MENTIONED HE TALKED ABOUT PERSONALITY IDENTITY AND REMINDING STUDENT VETERANS AND VETERANS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IDENTITY CAN BE IN ANY FIELD AND INDUSTRY THEY WANT.

SO BOB IS ALLOWING THESE STUDENT VETERANS AND VETERANS JUST IN THE COMMUNITY TO EXPLORE ANY INDUSTRY THAT NEED LIKE AND DOING THIS BY CONNECTING THEM WITH PROFESSIONALS ALL AROUND THE VALLEY AND CONNECTING THEM WITH PEOPLE THAT CAN GUIDE THEM INTO THE FIELD THEY'RE PURSUING.

>> Ted: I'M INTERESTED IN THE MINDSET AND THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CHALLENGES FROM THE MILITARY INTO CIVILIAN LIFE WHERE YOU HAVE A MISSION AND A THING TO DO AND YOU GO HERE AND THERE AND IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU GET OUT IN CIVILIAN LIFE, BUT FUTURISTIC THINKING IS DIFFERENT AND THEN SOME.

HOW DO YOU WORK THAT TOGETHER?

>> YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN AND NOBODY TO TILL WHAT TIME TO BE SOMEWHERE, WHAT THE MISSION IS AND IT'S ALL ON YOUR OWN.

SO BOB IS HELPING VETERANS REALLY PURSUE WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN AND THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THEIR OCCUPATIONAL SPECIALTY THEY DID IN THE MILITARY.

THIS ISN'T AN OPPORTUNITY TO PURSUE SOMETHING THEY WERE HESITANT SOMETHING TO PURSUE IN THE PAST AND NOW THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET INTO ANY FIELD THEY THAT HAVE THE SLIGHTEST INTEREST IN.

>> Ted: SCIENCE FICTION, THAT'S INTERESTING.

>> THAT'S TO PROTOTYPE NEW IDEAS AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT A TIME DURING RADICAL CHANGE.

WE EXPERIENCED THIS IN THE PANDEMIC AND WHAT DID PEOPLE SAY DURING THE PANDEMIC.

THIS IS UNIMAGINABLE.

WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS WOULD HAPPEN AND IT WAS UNCERTAIN AND IT WAS THIS STRANGE NEW TERRITORY.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT MOST SCIENCE FICTION STORIES, THEY'RE ABOUT A STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS NEW REALITY AND THINKING ABOUT THE MILITARY EXPERIENCE, THAT IS 100% ACCURATE.

WHEN YOU GET OUT OF THE MILITARY, EVERYTHING CHANGES.

YOU KNOW, THESE BIG FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES I MENTIONED THAT ARE DOING FUTURE THINKING, THEY HAVE THE LUXURY OF TIME AND RESOURCES TO REHEARSE IN TEN, 15, 20 YEARS.

FOUR OUR MILITARY, IT'S AS SOON AS YOU SIGN OFF THE BASE AND AS SOON AS YOU SIGN YOUR DISCHARGE BASES, EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED AND YOU NEED DIFFERENT TOOLS TO NAVIGATE THAT REALITY.

>> Ted: RESPONSE FROM THE PROGRAM SO FAR?

WERE YOU SURPRISED AT WHAT YOU ENCOUNTERED AND MAYBE EVEN THE RESULTS?

>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS GET CONNECTED LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS OR PROFESSIONALS IN THE FIELD AND WE COLLABORATE WITH A FUTURIST AND DESIGN WHAT THAT INDUSTRY COULD LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT TEN, 15, 20 YEARS AND IT'S INTERESTING AND BEYOND JUST BUILDING A LINKEDIN PROFILE.

BOB IS FOCUSED ON THE FUTURE AND THE CONNECTIONS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

>> Ted: FOR SOMEONE LIKE YOU, IT MUST BE EXCITING.

>> IT IS.

>> Ted: AND WE HAVE A MINUTE OR SO LEFT, BUT WHAT GOT YOU STARTED DOING THIS?

>> I'VE BEEN AT THE CENTER OF SCIENCE OF IMAGINATION FOR SEVEN YEARS AND WORKED WITH NASA, GOOGLE, METALABS AND BEING A MILITARY VETERAN, THE PEOPLE CONTENDING WITH RADICAL CHANGE ARE THE FOLKS GETTING OUT OF THE MILITARY AND CAN WE APPLY THIS TO PERSONAL FUTURES FOR OUR MILITARY VETERANS.

>> Ted: THE EXPANDED PROGRAM, HOW FAR AND WHERE DOES IT GO?

>> WE'RE RETURNING A PROGRAM AT THE MESA VETERAN'S RESOURCE CENTER AND RECEIVED A GRANT FROM WOMEN AND PHILANTHROPY INTO THE COMPANY AND RUNNING ANOTHER WORKSHOP RIGHT NOW.

I'LL BE RUNNING ANOTHER WORKSHOP IN THE SPRING AND SO, IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, GO TO THIS WEBSITE AND THEY CAN APPLY AND IT'S A FREE PROGRAM AND JUST FOR OUR MILITARY VETERANS TO HELP THEM GET TO THE NEXT STEP.

>> Ted: THAT WEBSITE?

CSIVSU.EDU.

LEAH AEGERTER IS A SCULPTOR WHO USES 3D SCANS OF LANDSCAPE AND GEOLOGY TO CREATE MULTI-COMPOSITIONS.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU AND ARTIST AND RESIDENCE FOR THE GRAND CANYON AND WHAT DOES AN ARTIST AND RESIDENT DO AND WHAT DOES THIS TITLE MEAN?

>> I WOULD SAY IT JUST REFERS TO AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO A NEW PLACE AND ESCAPE THE SOUTH RIM AND MAKE WORK AND ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND YEAH, JUST BE AN ARTIST FOR A FEW WEEKS.

>> Ted: SOUNDS FANTASTIC!

DID YOU APPLY FOR THIS?

>> YES.

I APPLIED FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

>> Ted: WHAT ATTRACTED YOU TO THIS?

>> WELL, I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS PROCESS OF 3D SCANNING, GEOLOGICAL TEXTURES FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS AND I WAS INTERESTED IN IN THE GRAND CANYON BECAUSE I DID A BACKPACKING TRIP IN 2019 AND SO INSPIRED BY THE DIVERSITY OF GEOLOGY HERE AND FELT LIKE A NICE PLACE TO KIND OF CONTINUE MY RESEARCH AND ARTISTIC PRACTICE.

>> Ted: WE MENTIONED THE 3D PROCESS AND THE MODELS USED.

GIVE US AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND HOW IT WORKS.

>> SO THE PROCESS OF 3D SCANNING I USED CALLED PHOTOGRAMETRY AND TAKES A FEW HUNDRED IMAGES OF ANY TEXTURE, SURFACE OBJECT AND THEN I BRING THOSE IMAGES THAT I HAVE TAKEN IN THE FIELD BACK INTO MY STUDIO AND UPLOAD THEM ONTO A COMPUTER SOFTWARE THAT STITCHES THEM TOGETHER INTO A 3D MODEL.

THAT'S KIND OF THE GIST OF IT.

>> Ted: THE 3D MODEL BECOMES A SCULPTURE.

>> WHILE AT THE GRAND CANYON, I'VE BEEN 3D PRINTING MY MODELS AND I TYPICALLY WORK IN WOOD AND CARVE OUT OF WOOD ON THE C & C ROUTER.

>> Ted: A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY INVOLVED AND STARTS WITH WHAT, WHAT YOU FIND?

DOES IT START WITH A VISION AND HOW DO YOU GET THE PROCESS GOING?

>> IT STARTS WITH WHAT I FIND AND I WOULD SAY THAT 3D SCANNING IS MY WAY OF CAPTURING A PIECE OF THE LANDSCAPE AND MY VERSION IS TAKING A PHOTO KIND OF AND SO I'LL BE HIKING, RAFTING AND I SEE SOMETHING THAT IS OF INTEREST AND I WANT TO REMEMBER THAT MOMENT AND CAPTURE THAT LANDSCAPE OR THAT TEXTURE.

SO I CAPTURE A 3D SCAN AND SOMETIMES I'LL HAVE AN IMMEDIATE IDEA OF WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH IT AND OTHER TIMES, IT TAKES ME AWHILE TO PROCESS THE MEMORIES AND EMOTIONS EXPERIENCED THAT ONE LOCATION AND WHAT I WANT TO DO SCULPTUREALLY WITH MY SCAN.

>> Ted: THEY'RE GORGEOUS!

DO YOU FIND THAT THE MEMORY, THE EXPERIENCE, WHAT YOU WANT TO DOCUMENT, WHEN IT'S OVER, HAS IT CHANGED?

>> INTERESTING QUESTION.

I THINK THAT I HAVE A ROMANTIC VIEW OF THE LANDSCAPE SOMETIMES, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT KIND OF COME BACK TO THAT MOMENT OF INTIMACY WITH THE LAND THAT I EXPERIENCE AND SO I THINK IT'S WORKING WITH THESE TEXTURES AND IT'S KIND OF A WAY OF PROLONGING THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LAND AND RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.

>> Ted: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ICONIC AREA AND ANYONE WITH A CAMERA OR EASEL AND TRYING TO CAPTURE IMAGES AND DOCUMENTS.

IS THERE A BIT OF A CHALLENGE?

THE GRAND CANYON IS NOT LIKE GOING TO THE CORNER AND FINDING ART.

>> IT'S DEFINITELY CHALLENGING EXI THINKAND I GET OVERWHELMED BY THE AMAZING THINGS I'M SEEING.

WHEN I BRING THESE TEXTURES BACK INTO THE STUDIO, USING THIS MICROMOMENT FROM THE CAMERA, I WANT TO EXPRESS THE GRANDEUR OF THE PLACE AND THAT'S WHAT I'M WORKING THROUGH DURING RESIDENCY IS HOW I MAKE A SCULPTURE OR COMPOSITION THAT DOES THAT.

>> Ted: EXPECTAND THE RESIDENCY IS ALMOST OVER.

HAS YOUR ART FOREVER CHANGED BECAUSE OF THIS?

>> I THINK I'LL TAKE A BUNCH OF NEW SOURCE MATERIAL TO WORK WITH BECAUSE AND MAYBE ALMOST 100 SCANS AND I HAVE NOT PROCESSED NEARLY ALL OF THOSE AND I THINK I'LL TAKE THOSE, LIKE, RELATIONSHIP AND BELONG TO THE PLACE.

I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOLO BACKPACKING AND THAT'S BEEN AMAZING TO FIND SOLITUDE AND COMMUNE WITH THE CANYON.

>> Ted: WHAT IS NEXT FOR YOU AND WHERE DO YOU GO FROM HERE?

>> I'LL BE GOING BACK TO CARBON CARBONDALE, COLORADO, WHERE I LIVE AND WORK AND CONTINUING MY PRACTICE THERE AND I HAVE ANOTHER RESIDENCY COMING UP IN JANUARY AT ROCKLIN ROCK LYNN WOODS IN WASHINGTON STATE.

>> Ted: WOW!

I'M JUST FASCINATED.

CAN YOU TAKE SOMETHING FROM THE GRANDGRAND CANYON AND HAVE IT WEAVE INTO THE RAIN FOREST?

>> I'LL HAVE TO FIND OUT.

I'M NOT SURE.

>> Ted: CAN GRAT ALLEGATIONS AND THISTHANKS FOR JOINING US.QUICKLY FOR TOMORROW'S SHOW.

WE HAVE THE LATEST POLL RESULTS ON STATE-WIDE RACES AND THAT IS FOR TOMORROW.

BUT THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!

AND COMING UP IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR ON CRONKITE NEWS, THE NEWEST INDUCTEES INTO THE ARIZONA SPORT'S HALL OF FAME.