
Grijalva, Leg. update, SRP Reservoirs
Season 2023 Episode 52 | 27m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Republican leg. update, Rep. Grijalva, SRP water reservoirs
Representative Grijalva talks all things Capitol and the Silicone valley bank collapse. Senator Kavanagh joins us for this weeks legislative update and Chief water executive at SRP here to talk about the reservoirs filling up and the efforts being taken to create additional storage.
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Grijalva, Leg. update, SRP Reservoirs
Season 2023 Episode 52 | 27m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Representative Grijalva talks all things Capitol and the Silicone valley bank collapse. Senator Kavanagh joins us for this weeks legislative update and Chief water executive at SRP here to talk about the reservoirs filling up and the efforts being taken to create additional storage.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> Ted: NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, CONGRESS RAUL GRIJALVA JONES JOINS US TO DISCUSS THE BANK COLLAPSE AND OUR UPDATE LOOKS AT THE STATE CAPITOL AND WE HEAR FROM A REPUBLICAN LAWMAKER.
HOW IS ALL OF THIS WINTER RAIN AND SNOW IMPACTING THE SRP'S RESERVOIRS.
THAT'S NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."
I'M TED SIMONS.
THE PHOENIX CITY COUNCIL HAS TWO NEW MENS.
THERE'S KEVIN ROBINSON AND KESHA HODGE WASHINGTON WON.
ROBINSON SUCCEEDED THE TERM LIMITED SAL DICICCIO IN DISTRICT 6 WHICH COVERS ARCADIA AND AHWATUKE AND WASHINGTON WON INCUMBENT AND IMMIGRANT RIGHT'S GARCIA IN 8 WHICH INCLUDES SOUTH PHOENIX AND PARTS OF DOWNTOWN.
BOTH WERE CONSIDERED THE MODERATE CHOICES AND BOTH ARE ENDORSED BY MAYOR KATE GALLEGO AND THIS WILL INCLUDE TWO BLACK MEMBERS AND WASHINGTON IS THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN TO WIN A CITY COUNCIL SEAT AND WILL TAKE OFFICE ON APRIL 17th.
>>> THE ARIZONA REPUBLICAN REPORTS KRIS MAYES WILL NOT TAKE ACTION AGAINST BRNOVICH NOT RELEASING THE RESULTS OF THE OFFICE'S INVESTIGATION INTO ELECTION FRAUD.
THAT INVESTIGATION FOUND THAT NO FRAUD OCCURRED IN THE 2020 ELECTION AND SAID IT'S NOT HER PLACE TO TAKE STEPS AGAINST BRNOVICH FOR SITTING ON THE REPORT AND LEFT TO THE STATE BAR AND OTHERS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE WHICH HAS ALREADY LEAD TO AT LEAST 18 BAR COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL.
>>> THE SILICON VALLEY BANG COLLAPSE HAS THE U.S. BANKING INDUSTRY ON EDGE AND RUSSIA FORCING DOWN A DRONE OVER THE BLACK SEA RAISING CONCERNS OVER AMERICA'S COMMITMENT TO UKRAINE AND THE FIGHT AGAINST RUSSIA.
JOINING US NOW TO ADDRESS THESE AND OTHER ISSUES IS ARIZONA CONGRESSMAN RAUL GRIJALVA JONES.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
DID THIS BANK COLLAPSE BUSINESS, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> I THINK THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO MAKE AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION AND ONE I ACCEPT AND THAT THE CLIENTS OF THESE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, OF THEIR WHOLENESS AND NOT THE CORPORATE OWNERS AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DECISION.
IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE AND MY CONCERN IS, AND EVEN UNDER OBAMA, I VOTED AGAINST THE BANKS.
I HOPE WE DON'T GET ON THAT SLIPPERY SLOPE AND IF THERE'S INTERVENTIONS WITHIN THE FINANCIAL SERVICE'S INDUSTRY.
PLUS, NOT SETTING ANY PRECEDENT THAT LEADS US INTO A PATH WHERE WE CREATE A RUSH ON OUR LENDING INSTITUTIONS AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
I WORRY ABOUT A SLIPPERY SLOPE BAILING OUT.
>> Ted: OBVIOUSLY, THERE WAS MISMANAGEMENT AND IT'S GONE NOW AND FDIC HAS TAKEN OVER AND WHAT COULD BE DONE FROM KEEPING THAT FROM HAPPENING DEPEND?
>> I THINK WHAT HAS BEEN ATTEMPTS TO WEAKEN IS THE OVERSIGHT TO BE A PART OF THE FINANCIAL SERVICE AND LENDING INSTITUTIONS IN THIS COUNTRY.
AS IT GOT WEAKENED, I THINK IT'S TIME TO RETURN AND GIVE THAT SOME STRENGTH AND GIVE ENFORCEMENT AND THE OVERSIGHT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND GIVEN IT MORE TEETH AND AUTHORITY.
>> Ted: EVERYTHING IS A PARTISAN ISSUE THESE DAYS AND THIS IS INCLUDED, AS WELL, REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES BLAMING "WOKE POLICIES," DIVERSITY INCLUSION STANDARDS AND THESE SORTS OF THINGS.
VALID ARGUMENT?
>> IT'S A BLOODY RAG AND WE'LL SEE IT GOING INTO 2024.
IT'S DIVERSITY, IT'S WOKE, CULTURE WARS AND IT'S REPLACEMENT THEORIES AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
AND THE REALITY IS THAT WE HAVE LAX INSTITUTIONAL OVERSIGHT AND THAT IS THE KEY TO IT.
AND THE SLIPPERY SLOPE IS SOMETHING THAT IS, I THINK, PART AND PARCEL OF NOT HAVING THE OVERSIGHT.
>> Ted: SPARKINGSPEAKING OF PARTISANSHIP, AMERICA'S INVOLVEMENT IN HELPING UKRAINE AGAINST RUSSIA, DOES THAT SURPRISE YOU THERE'S PARTISANSHIP?
>> IT REALLY DOES.
BE IT FROM FAR FROM, THE WARMON GERRING,WARMONGERINGS RING, THAT WE NEED TROUPES ON THE GROUND, NO.
WE NEED TO SUPPORT UKRAINE AND THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT NOW, HUMANITARIAN WAY AND MILITARY SUPPLIES AND THIS IS A DANGEROUS ONE.
I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO SOLIDIFY.
THIS IS A DEMOCRACY AND IF WE CARE ABOUT SOVEREIGNTY AND DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS, WE NEED TO HELP UKRAINE AND ITS STRUGGLE AND ITS FIGHT AND ITS WAR WITH RUSSIA TO RETAIN ITSELF AND TO CONTINUE TO BE A SOVEREIGN NATION.
>> Ted: DOES THE LATEST PROVOCATION MAYBE PUSH THE U.S.
TOWARDS SUPPLYING F16S AND THESE THINGS THAT UKRAINE WANTS, MORE MILITARY WEAPONRY?
>> THE WEAPONRY PART, THAT CONTINUES TO BE FROM ARMORED VEHICLES AND TANKS, ET CETERA, ADDITIONAL MISSILES, BUT THE F16, STARS AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THAT'S ALIGNED, THE MILITARY.
>> Ted: IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN UKRAINE AND RUSSIA'S INVASION, THAT A BIG THING FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN YOUR DISTRICT?
>> IT'S A BIG ISSUE AMONG CERTAIN SECTORS, BUT IS IT THE OVERWHELMING ISSUE IN TERMS OF HOW WE DEAL WITH THE COST OF LIVING AND HOW DO WE DEAL WITH OTHER ISSUES, OTHER CHALLENGES WE'RE CONFRONTING?
NOT NECESSARILY, NO.
BUT ONCE YOU PUT IT IN TERMS OF DEMOCRATIC VALUES AND PROTECTING THAT DEMOCRACY, THE TONE CHANGES AND I THINK THE UNDERSTANDING INCREASES AND YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN IT AND YOU JUST DON'T ASSUME AND ONCE YOU EXPLAIN IT IN THOSE TERMS, THE SUPPORT HAS BEEN THERE AND CONTINUES TO BE THERE.
>> Ted: STATEWIDE ISSUE, EVERYBODY IN ANSWER IS WATER SECURITY AND WHERE DO WE STAND WITH THAT SECURITY?
>> THE NEXUS FOR THE FEDS IS THE COLORADO RIVER AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE URGING, THE DEPARTMENT OF RECLAMATION IN PARTICULAR, BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, GENERALLY, AT SOME POINT, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BASIN STATES DEAL WITH THE PROCESS OF AGREEMENT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THAT BE EQUITY IN THE CONSERVATION REDUCTION THAT IS GOING TO COME.
THIS BURST OF MOISTURE IS WELCOME, NECESSARY AND HELPS US WITH OUR RESERVOIRS AND HELPS US WITH ALL OF THE AREAS IN WHICH WATER IS NEEDED AND IT IS, INDEED A BURST.
THE LONG-TERM SCIENCE INDICATES THAT THIS DROUGHT AND THIS WATER SHORTAGE AND THIS STATE AND THE BASIN STATES WILL CONTINUE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TALKS ABOUT MANDATING AND IF THAT STIMULATES, THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THE BOMB LINE BOTTOM LINE BEING EQUITY AND IT'S TRANSPARENCY.
BUILDING A PIPELINE AND A NONDISCLOSURE AND YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT, THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
>> Ted: PUMPING FROM WATER FROM NORTHWEST, DO YOU THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS?
>> THE PRIZE IS WE HAVE A SITUATION NOW AND WATER IS A STRATEGY SHORT-TERM AND GOING INTO THE LONG-TERM TO DEAL WITH THIS REALITY AND IN ARIZONA AND THE BASIN STATES.
THE DESALINATION LINE FROM WHEREVER IN MEXICO TO ARIZONA WILL BE THE SOLUTION, I THINK IS MORE OF A SHINY NEW OBJECT.
WHEN, IN REALITY, WE NEED TO DEAL WITH A MANDATED EQUITABLE SOLUTION THAT DOESN'T ALLOW CALIFORNIA TO DICTATE WHAT HAPPENS AND DOESN'T HAPPEN TO THE OTHER SIX BASIN STATES.
>> THE GOVERNOR OF SENORA IS NOT ENAMORED AT ALL.
>> IT'S SOMETHING IN ARIZONA MISSED, TODAY NEED AN AGREEMENT WITH MEXICO, THAT YOU NEED A CONCURRENCE FROM THEM AND NO CONCURRENCE, NO PIPELINE.
>> Ted: IS THERE PARTISANSHIP ON THAT ISSUE?
>> IF THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS TO AGREE ON OR FIND COMMON GROUND, IT IS ON THE DROUGHT AND THE TRANSITION AS WE GO FORWARD DEALING WITH THE ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
I WOULD HOPE THAT REALITY AND THE FACTS AND SCIENCE THAT BACK BOTH THOSE TWO POINTS, I WOULD HOPE THAT CREATES SOME COMMON GROUND.
>> Ted: LAST QUESTION ON THIS AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THE FEDS ARE ABOUT TO COME DOWN BECAUSE CALIFORNIA WOULD NOT COOPERATE AS YOU ELUDED TO, AS WELL.
AND WHAT ARE YOU EXPECT.
>> ING?
>> WE URGE EQUITABLABILITY AND WE HAVE AN INFORMED PUBLIC AND THERE WILL BE MEASURES THAT INVOLVE REDUCTIONS.
>> Ted: CONGRESSMAN RAUL GRIJALVA JONES, THANK YOU.
>> YOU BET.
>> Ted: OUR WEEKLY LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.
>> Ted: IT'S TEAM FOR OUR WEEKLY LEGISLATIVE UPDATE IN WHICH WE HEAR FROM LEGISLATORS AT THE STATE CAPITOL AND THE REPUBLICAN'S TURN AND WE WELCOME JOHN KAVANAGH.
THANK YOU.
>> Ted: I GUESS THIS IS WHAT'S PART OF HAPPENING AND YOU'RE FOUNTAIN HILLS.
>> YES.
>> Ted: NOT FAR AWAY AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE FOLKS?
>> IT'S A SAD SITUATION AND PEOPLE IN RIO VERDE HAVE WATER AND GET UPSET WHEN PEOPLE SUGGEST THEY DON'T.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RIO VERDE FOOTHILLS, AN UNINCORPORATED ISLAND.
BECAUSE IT'S UNPLANNED, MOST OF THE LOTS CAME ABOUT NOT BY BIG PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND LOT SPLITS WHICH UNDER STATE LAW, THE DEVELOPER DOES NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE AN UNINSURED WATER SUPPLY.
YOU HAVE 600 HOMES THAT DO NOT HAVE WATER BECAUSE THEIR WELLS RAN DRY OR TRIED TO GET A WELL DOWN AND NO WATER.
IT'S AN UNRELIABLE AQUIFER.
THESE PEOPLE, BIG TANGOR TAKER TRUCK PULLTANKER TRUCKFILL UP AND FILL FIVE TO TEN GALLON TANKS WITH WATER AND DO MONTHLY TRIPS AND IT WORKED WELL UNTIL TWO YEARS AGO WHEN SCOTTSDALE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER SITUATION SAID, WE'LL CUT THIS OFF.
YOU'RE NOT IN OUR MUNICIPALITY AND WE COUP HAVE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS.
THOSE WITHOUT WATER TRIED TO FORM THEIR OWN WATER DISTRICT.
ONLY PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO JOIN COULD JOIN AND NEEDED COUNTY APPROVAL.
THE PEOPLE WHO HAD WELLS DID NOT WANT THIS BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID THEY WOULD BE FORCED TO JOIN OR THEY WERE AFRAID THE DISTRICT WOULD START DRILLING WELLS AND TAKE THEIR WATER FROM THE GROUND.
SO THEY GOT THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS WHO HAD TO APPROVE THE DISTRICT TO VOTE IT DOWN.
YOU HAVE 600 FAMILIES THAT SCOTTSDALE CUT OFF FROM WATER AND THAT CAN'T FORM THEIR OWN WATER DISTRICT WITHOUT WATER.
>> Ted: CAN THE LEGISLATURE DO ANYTHING WITH THIS LAW THAT ALLOWS FOR THE SUBDIVIDING IN THE FIVE SPOTS?
>> THERE'S A SOLUTION.
THEY HAVE AGREED TO GET THESE PEOPLE WATER AND SUPPLY IT.
BUT IT WILL TAKE THEM ABOUT TWO YEARS TO GET THE APPROVAL FROM THE CORPORATION COMMISSION AND TO RUN A LINE FROM WHEREVER THEY'RE GETTING THE WATER TO DO THEIR OWN STAND PIPE.
THESE PEOPLE NEED A LIFE PRESERVER FOR TWO YEARS.
WE ASKED SCOTTSDALE TO DO THIS AND NO, IT WASN'T THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
SO WE BEGAN TO CRAFT LEGISLATION TO FORCE THEM AND I FEEL FOR THESE PEOPLE AND "WE," MYSELF AND REPRESENTATIVE CULLEN AND REPRESENTATIVE COOK.
SCOTTSDALE SAID WE DON'T WANT THIS AND WE PUT THIS INTO THE BILL THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE THE WATER.
WE'LL MAKE THE COUNTY GET THE WATER AND YOU'LL BE REIMBURSED AND IF IT JEOPARDIZES YOUR WATER, YOU CAN STOP.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN MACE FOR TWO YEARS PLACE FOR TWO YEARS.
>> Ted: DOES ANY OF THIS MAKE SENSE WITHOUT SOME MORATORIUM ON DEVELOPMENT IN.
>> THERE?
>> THERE SHOULD BE A WATER SUPPLY BEFORE SOMEBODY CAN SUBDIVIDE LAND AND DO A LOT.
>> Ted: IS THERE A CHANCE FOR THAT HAPPENING?
>> IT'S IN THE RURAL COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THE RURAL COMMUNITIES KNOW IF THIS IS IMPOSED, THEY MAY NOT SUBDIVIDE THEIR LAND AND MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE NEW HOMES OR NEW BUSINESSES AND THAT IS ECONOMIC RUIN.
SO THEY ARE OBJECTING TO THIS AND AT THE END, IT'S A DISASTER AND WE CANNOT GET REASONABLE LEGISLATION THROUGH.
>> Ted: THEY'LL HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS OUT THERE?
>> HOPEFULLY WE CAN PASS THE BILL AND REQUIRE THE COUNTY TO GET THE WATER AND THE COUNTY TO DISTRIBUTE IT OUT OF THE STAND PIPE SO THESE PEOPLE DON'T LOSE THEIR HOMES.
>> Ted: I UNDERSTAND THE URBAN SITUATION AND THE URBAN CONCERNS, BUT THIS IS WRONG.
THIS ISN'T RIGHT OUT THERE WHEN YOU SUBDIVIDE.
THERE'S SUBDEVELOPMENT AND THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ASSURED WATER AND THIS ISN'T SEEM RIGHT.
>> I IMPOSE THERE BE A WATER SUPPLY BEFORE HOMES CAN BE SOLD.
THERE'S VEHEMENT OPPOSITION FOR ECONOMIC REASONS IN THE RURAL -- THIS IS A RURAL, URBAN ISSUE AND IT'S SAD BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THIS, WHO DON'T TRULY UNDERSTAND THE REPERCUSSIONS END UP IN THIS POSITION.
>> Ted: THIS REQUIRES A PRIVATE BATHROOM FOR KIDS AND WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?
>> IT'S A BATHROOM, TRUE, BUT IT'S SHOWER FACILITIES AND LOCKER ROOM FACILITIES AND BATHROOMS.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE, HUMAN BEINGS ARE MODEST AND THIS GOES BACK TO ADAM AND EVE HIDING BEHIND THE BUSH.
A 14-YEAR-OLD HIGH SCHOOL LIQUID CO-ED SHOULD NOT STAND PLACE WHO IDENTIFIES AS A FEMALE.
IF IT'S A SINGLE USED FACILITY, NO PROBLEM.
FID A FACILITY WHERE MORE THAN ONE COMES IN, THEY HAVE TO BE THE SAME BIOLOGICAL GENDER.
SCHOOLS HAVE TO MAKE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS WHO WILL NOT OR CANNOT DO THAT BY PROVIDING THEM WITH THE SAME FACILITIES OR AT CERTAIN TIMES FOR THEM.
>> Ted: IT'S NOT A PROBLEM AND THIS IS PREEMPTIVE AND NOT A PROBLEM AND BATHROOMS ALREADY HAVE STALLS.
IF THERE'S THAT MUCH CONCERN WITH SHOWERS, PUT UP DIVIDERS.
>> HOW DO YOU PUP A PUT UP A DIVIDER IN EVERY SCHOOL OR LOCKER?
>> Ted: I'M FLYING TRYING TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT -- IS THIS NECESSARY?
>> IT IS BECAUSE THIS IS HAPPENING MORE AND MORE AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THAT SCHOOLS ARE ALLOWING THIS AND NOT ALL, BUT STUDENTS HAVE A RIGHT, ADULTS HAVE A RIGHT TO PRIVACY AND MODESTY AND THIS ACCOMMODATES EVERYBODY.
>> Ted: YOU'RE SAYING IT'S HAPPENING MORE AND MORE?
>> REPORTS OF SCHOOLS DOING THIS.
>> Ted: WHAT ABOUT ARIZONA?
>> I'VE HEARD REPORTS AND THE IDEA IS TO STOP BEFORE IT STARTS.
>> Ted: WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT BIOLOGICAL SEX AND THAT IDEA IS WHAT?
>> VERY SIMPLE.
WE'RE NOT GOING STOP A SCHOOL FROM USE AG PRONOUN THAT DOESN'T MATCH A STUDENT'S BIOLOGICAL GENDER AND THE PARENTS HAVE TO CONSENT AND KNOW ABOUT THIS FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CHILD.
PARENTS NEED TO KNOW WHEN CHILDREN HAVE CONTUSION.
>> Ted: PARENTS MIGHT DECIDE THEIR CHILDREN'S GENDER IDENTITY HAS CHANGED AND IF THE PARENT SAYS HE IS NOW A SHE, WHAT IS IN?
>> THEY CAN USE A DIFFERENT PRONOUNCE AS LONG THE PARENT CONSENTS.
THEY WANT TO DO IT WITHOUT TELLING THE PARENT.
THE PARENT DOESN'T KNOW THIS PARENT HAS PSYCHOLOGICAL POSSIBLES.
WE'LL >> Ted: WE'LL GET TO THE BUDGET ANOTHER TIME.
>> WE WILL.
>> Ted: SRP'S CHAIN OF RESERVOIR ARE IN MUCH BETTER CHAIN AS SNOW IS MAKING AN IMPACT ON THE WATER LEVELS AND HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH AND WHAT HAPPEN TO EXCESS WATER AND JOINS US IS LESLIE MEYERS AND GOOD TO SEE YOU SMILING.
THESE RESERVOIRS ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.
>> THEY ARE.
>> Ted: GIVE US NUMBERS.
>> THE FOUR RESERVOIRS ON THE SALT RIVER AND THE TWO RESERVOIRS ON THE VERDE RIVER.
>> Ted: DID I SEE IT'S THE SECOND DEEPEST IN 30 YEARS?
>> IT IS AND ON THE VERDE SIDE, TODAY WE HAVE 400% OF NORMAL IN OUR SNOW PACK.
>> Ted: TAKING MEASUREMENTS AND THE SNOW PACK IS A HUGE DEAL AND THAT HAS TO COME DOWN HERE AND RELEASES WILL HAPPEN FOR QUITE AWHILE.
>> WE'RE GETTING A NICE RAIN STORM ON THE WATERSHED, WHICH MEANS THE SNOW WILL MELT FASTER AND COME DOWN QUICKER.
>> Ted: TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND WHERE IT GOES AND WHY IT GOES AND HOW IT GOES.
>> SO THE SALT RIVER PROJECT HAS TWO AREAS THAT FEED ITS RESERVOIR SYSTEM AND WE TALK ABOUT THE VERDE, WE'RE TALKING EVERYTHING AROUND THE VERDE RIVER AND WE CALL IT THE WATERSHED.
AND THAT IS VERY FULL THIS YEAR AND THAT'S GOING TO HEALTH AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN THE VERDE, IT ENTERS AT HORSESHOE DAM AND BARTLETT DAM.
>> Ted: AND BARTLET, THERE'S PLANS TO INCREASE STORAGE IN BARTLETT, TRUE?
>> THIS YEAR, WATER THROUGH TOWN RIGHT NOW IS COMING OFF THE VERDE SIDE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STORAGE THERE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP AND USE IT ALL, SO WE HAVE TO EVACUATE SPACE TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE WATER THAT'S COMING OFF THE WATERSHED.
>> Ted: TALK ABOUT BARTLET DAM AND THE PLANS AND WHAT IT WOULD MEAN.
RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE BE SEEING RELEASES RIGHT NOW?
>> WE WOULD NOT.
WE WOULD NOT.
SO THIS ACTUALLY STARTED AS A PROCESS TO LOOK AT ISSUES WITH SEDIMENTATION IN HORSESHOE DAM.
IT SETTLES IN HORSESHOE AND THAT HAS FILLED UP WITH SEDIMENT AND WE'VE LOST A LOT OF CAPACITY AND WE STARTED TO LOOK AT WAYS TO REGAIN CAPACITY.
ONE OF THE OPTIONS WAS TO INCREASE THE DOWN KANSAS CITY STREAMSTREAM DAM.WE DID AN APPRAISAL STUDY AND A BUNCH OF LOCAL ENTITIES TO SEE IF THAT WAS EVEN A RESOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.
NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS LOOKING AT TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF RAISING THAT DAM AND WE'LL ENTER INTO SOME NEPA, NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT AND DO AN E IS.
>> Ted: A TIME TABLE FOR WHEN IT'S COMPLETED?
>> THAT STUDY TAKES ABOUT FOUR YEARS AND AT THE END OF FOUR YEARS, WE GET IT AUTHORIZED FEDERALLY, A BUREAU OF RECLAMATION PROJECT AND THE STUDY IS COSTING $27 MILLION.
AT THE END OF IT, WE HOPE TO GET AUTHORITY TO RAISE THE DAM.
WHAT WE COULD EFFECTIVELY DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE CAPACITY OF BARTLET DAM IN THE PROCESS.
>> Ted: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN DOWNSTREAM FOR AQUIFERS?
WE SEE IT'S BEING WASTED AND NOT NECESSARILY BEING WASTED?
IT'S RECHARGING INTO THE GROUNDWATER SYSTEM.
THAT'S A GOOD THING AND WE LIKE THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO CONTROL THE USE OF IT, RIGHT?
WE'LL DEVELOP IT AND DELIVER IT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN DIRECTLY USE IT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RECHARGE THE AQUIFER AND PUMP IT BACK OUT.
>> Ted: HOW FAR DOWN DOES THE WATER GO AND HOW FAR DOWN DOES THE WATER GO?
>> THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WATER STORED UNDERGROUND OVER THE YEARS AND A LOT OF CAP WATER WE'VE BROUGHT INTO ARIZONA AND STORED UNDERGROUND.
SO IT WILL GO DOWN INTO WHEREVER THE SURFACE ELEVATION OF THE WATER TABLE IS.
AND IT'S MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH TOWN RIGHT NOW AND IT WILL END UP ALL THE WAY DOWN BY GILA BEND,.
>> Ted: DOES THAT IMPACT NEXT YEAR?
HOW MUCH DOES A SEASON MAKE FOR FUTURE YEARS?
>> A GREAT IMPACT BECAUSE OUR SYSTEM WILL BE FULL THIS YEAR.
SO WE STARTED THIS YEAR MAYBE HALF FULL AND THE YEAR BEFORE, WE DREW DOWN THE SYSTEM BY ABOUT 25% JUST TO MAKE DELIVERIES.
SO THIS YEAR, WE'RE FULL AGAIN AT THE TOP AND IT'S JUST A GREAT WAY TO ADDRESS NEXT YEAR.
>> Ted: VERY ENCOURAGING.
LESLIE MEYERS, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> TODAY, TED.
>> Ted: AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.
I'M TID SIMONS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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