>> WELCOME TO BASIC BLACK.

SOME OF YOU ARE DRONING ON OUR BROADCAST AND OTHERS OF YOU ARE JOINING US ON DIGITAL PLATFORMS.

I AM KELLY, TONIGHT THE RESIGNATION OF RACHAEL ROLLINS U.S. ATTORNEY FOR MESSAGES AND HAITIAN HERITAGE MONTH.

FIRST THE RESIGNATION OF RACHAEL ROLLINS, JOINING ME TO DISCUSS DETAILS, FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE RACHEL -- RACIAL JUSTICE PROGRAM OF A SEAL -- ACLU MASSACHUSETTS.

LET ME START OUT THIS WAY AND ASK YOU TO GIVE US THE DETAILS OF ARE IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW ABOUT THE TWO FEDERAL ETHICS PROBES ABOUT RACHAEL ROLLINS.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE IT IS UNFORTUNATE WE FIND OURSELVES IN THE SITUATION.

THE DETAILS THAT HAVE BEEN REVEALED TO THE TWO ETHICS PROBES UP BY THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL COUNSEL IN THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL DETAIL HER VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW.

THE HATCH ACT, THAT TRIES TO KEEP FEDERAL EMPLOYEES OUT OF POLITICS.

ATTENDING A FEDERAL -- LOCAL FUNDRAISER DR. JOE BIDEN WAS PRESENT.

WEIGHING IN ON THE SUFFOLK COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY RACE BY LEAKING CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION TO VARIOUS PRESS OUTLETS ABOUT ONE OF THE CANDIDATES.

KEVIN.

ALSO USING HER POSITION AND INFLUENCE TO GAIN BENEFITS.

LIKE GETTING TICKETS TO THE CELTICS GAMES.

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MOST HIGH-PROFILE THINGS THAT WERE COMPLAINED ABOUT OR REPORTED ON IN BOTH OF THOSE INVESTIGATIONS.

>> OBVIOUSLY THEY THOUGHT THAT THESE THINGS WERE WORTHY OF INVESTIGATING AND REPORTING ABOUT.

TO YOUR EYE AS AN ATTORNEY AND SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THIS LANDSCAPE WELL, ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO RACHAEL ROLLINS AT THIS POINT?

WE SHOULD SAY SHE IS RESIGNING.

SHE OFFERED TO RESIGN.

THAT IS ON THE TABLE.

WHERE DO YOU SEE THIS?

IN SPITE OF THAT?

>> DESPITE THE FACT THAT SHE HAS TENDERED HER RESIGNATION, AND WILL BE RESIGNING, THERE ARE STILL SEVERAL CONCERNS THAT SHE HAS.

ONE, THE ETHICS CONCERNS.

HER LICENSE TO PRACTICE LAW MAY COME INTO QUESTION.

THE BOARD OF OVERSEERS MAY CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION AND CAN ISSUE AND LEVEL OF DISCIPLINE FROM A MERE REPRIMAND UP TO DISBARMENT.

THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR CRIMINAL CHARGES, 18 USC SECTION 1001 ALLOWS PROSECUTION OF INDIVIDUALS FOR KNOWINGLY MAKING FALSE STATEMENT TO FEDERAL INDIVIDUALS.

THAT IS SUNDAY SHE KNOWINGLY DID WHAT BEING INVESTIGATED.

SHE WAS QUESTIONED AND LATER GAVE INFORMATION THAT WAS FOUND TO BE FALSE.

>> YOU SAID THERE WERE MOTIVATIONS FOR THE INVESTIGATION.

TO BE CLEAR, WHAT SHE DID, SHE DID.

LET'’S PUT THAT ON THE TABLE.

>> RIGHT.

THERE IS NO QUESTION WHAT THOSE REPORTS INDICATE SHE DID WERE INAPPROPRIATE.

THERE WERE VIOLATION OF ETHIC RULES AND A VIOLATION OF THE LAW.

THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

THERE ARE MANY OF US WHO HAVE SUPPORTED HER AND WORK WITH HER.

INVESTED IN HER SUCCESS AND FEEL LET DOWN.

WE ARE CONCERNED HOW THIS MISCONDUCT WILL BE USED TO UNDERMINE THE ACCOMPANIMENTS THAT SHE TOOK TO REFORM THE CRIMINAL SYSTEM.

BASED ON THE WORK OF TIRELESS ADVOCATES THAT DO NOT HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF THE PLATFORMS THAT SHE HAD.

WE ARE CONCERNED ON HOW THIS WILL BE USED TO DISCREDIT THE EFFORTS OF DIVERSIFYING GOVERNMENT OFFICES THROUGH APPOINTMENTS.

WE CAN ALSO NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE DOUBLE STANDARDS THAT EXISTS.

OVER A DOZEN TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS THAT VIOLATED THE HATCH ACT.

THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL COUNSEL WHEN QUESTIONED ABOUT THEIR LACK OF VIGOR OF GOING AFTER THOSE, SAYS THE HATCH ACT BACK -- HATCH ACT IS ONLY AS EFFECTIVE AS THE PRESIDENT DECIDES IT WILL BE.

THIS IS MINISTRATIONS CHOOSES -- ADMINISTRATION CHOOSES TAKE THAT MORE SERIOUSLY THAN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.

>> MAMMY CIRCLE BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT FEELING DOES APARTMENT.

YOU KNOW HER PERSONALLY -- LET ME CIRCLE BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT FEELING DISAPPOINTMENT.

YOU KNOW HER PERSONALLY.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS?

>> I FEEL GRIEVED FOR HER AS A PERSON.

BUT SHE HAS TO GO THROUGH.

A SINGLE MOTHER RAISING HER CHILD AND NIECES.

FIGHTING THIS UPHILL BATTLE OF GETTING INTO POSITIONS THAT GENERATIONS PEOPLE SAY WE DO NOT DESERVE OR BELONG IN.

MAKING MANY STRIDES IN REFORMING, AND INVESTING IN HER SUCCESS.

BEING AN ADVOCATE THAT BENEFITS FROM SOME OF THE CHANGES SHE TRIES TO MAKE AND KNOWING HOW THIS WILL BE USED, TO SAY WE TOLD YOU SHE WAS NOT QUALIFIED.

WE TOLD YOU SHE WAS NOT A GOOD FIT.

THE THINGS THAT SHE WAS DOING HER UNSAFE OR WORK DANGEROUS.

OR SHE IS NOT THE PERFECT PERSON FOR THIS POSITION.

THAT IS FRUSTRATING.

IT ALSO RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS IMPACTS HER CAREER MOVING FORWARD, BUT ALSO IMPACTS THE MOVEMENT THAT BENEFITED FROM THE POSITIVE THING SHE DID.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE LONG-TERM DAMAGE TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, BUT BLACK COMMUNITIES CAN SPECIFICALLY?

>> UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW THIS WELL, THIS IS NOTHING NEW.

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE BLACK ELECTED OFFICIALS, APPOINTED OFFICIALS AND HIGH-PROFILE POSITIONS THAT GET MADE AN EXAMPLE AGAIN OF WHY WE SHOULD NOT BE IN THESE PLACES.

WE ALWAYS REBOUND.

WE ALWAYS RALLY TOGETHER TO FIND ANOTHER PERSON TO BE A STRONG LEADER.

THIS SHOULD NOT DISCREDIT THE YEARS AND GENERATIONS OF WORK THAT WE AS ADVOCATES AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE DONE.

AND ALSO SOME OF THE POSITIVE THINGS SHE HAS DONE.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO RAISE AWARENESS.

HOPEFULLY MORE PEOPLE KNOW AND UNDERSTAND WITH THE HATCH ACT IS.

WHEN THEY ARE APPOINTED TO FEDERAL POSITIONS THEY DO NOT VIOLATED.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE STRIDES TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITIES.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHT ABOUT THE RESIGNATION OF RACHAEL ROLLINS.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> NOW, ONTO OUR MAIN DISCUSSION.

YOU MAY KNOW THAT MASSACHUSETTS IS HOME TO THE THIRD HAITIAN COMMUNITY IN THE U.S.

RIGHT AFTER NEW YORK AND FLORIDA.

YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT MAY IS MAKE -- HAITIAN HERITAGE MONTH.

THIS YEAR'’S CELEBRATION OF THE CONTRIBUTION OF LOCAL LEADERS TAKE PLACE AS A HAITIAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IS NAVIGATING SOCIAL, ECONOMIC, IMMIGRATION CHALLENGES.

JOINING AS THIS EVENING, DR. ALEX, SENIOR -- MARIE, FORMER STATE REPRESENT OF MY FIT SUFFOLK DISTRICT THE FIRST -- FIFTH SUFFOLK DISTRICT.

PRESIDENT AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TRUE ALLIANCE CENTER COOPERATED -- INCORPORATED, AND CHAIR OF PATIENTS UNITED INC. -- PATIENTS UNITED INC.. HAITI WAS THE FIRST INDEPENDENT BLACK REPUBLIC.

LET ME JUST GET IT RIGHT.

THE FIRST FREE BLACK REPUBLIC IN THE WORLD.

THE FIRST INDEPENDENT STATE IN THE CARIBBEAN.

THE SECOND INDEPENDENT STATE IN THE WESTERN END OF -- HEMISPHERE AFTER THE UNITED STATES.

THAT SHOULD BE HERE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HAITIAN HERITAGE MONTH.

BACK TO YOU, I DID NOT REALIZE YOU WERE THE FIRST IN MASSACHUSETTS, BUT THE FIRST ELECTED HAITIAN-AMERICAN IN THE UNITED STATES.

>> FOR STATE OFFICE.

>> THAT IS WHAT I'’M SAYING, THAT IS IMPRESSIVE.

LET'’S START WITH YOU, WHAT IS IT YOU WANT US TO KNOW AS WE CELEBRATE HAITIAN HERITAGE MONTH ABOUT THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS?

WHAT IS INTERESTING TO ME A VERY LONG CONNECTION BETWEEN THE U.S. AND MASSACHUSETTS, MASSACHUSETTS AND HAITI, I WILL GET IT RIGHT.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD CELEBRATE OUR ACCOMPANIMENTS.

EVEN IN THE MIDST OF THE CHAOS WE FIND OURSELVES DISCUSSING AS WE TALK ABOUT HAITI.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT AS PART OF THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE STOLEN FROM A CONTINENT, AND LANDED THAT FIRST STOP IN THE WEST INDIES.

THESE BLACK FOLKS WERE ABLE TO PERSEVERE, PUSH FORWARD, GAIN THEIR FREEDOM.

GAIN THEIR FREEDOM THAT SADLY FOR THEMSELVES.

AFTER THEY DID THAT THEY REACHED OUT -- NOT SIMPLY FOR THEMSELVES, AFTER THAT THEY REACHED OUT AND SUPPORTED INDEPENDENCE EFFORTS IN VENEZUELA AND OTHER PARTS OF SOUTH AMERICA.

THAT IS THE SPIRIT OF THE AFRICAN PEOPLE.

WE ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER.

WE ARE ALSO THE VICTIMS OF THAT KIDNAPPING THAT OCCURRED.

THAT VIOLENCE THAT OCCURRED.

THAT CONSISTENT HISTORY OF VIOLENCE AND THE LACK OF STABILITY THAT CREATED.

WE BROUGHT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ONTO AN ISLAND.

SOME OF THEM DIFFERENT TRIBES.

DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.

DIFFERENT CULTURES.

THEY HAD TO FORGE AS ONE.

WITH THAT THEY CREATE MADE -- CREATED THIS AMAZING OPPORTUNITY FROM MANY OF US.

BELIEVING IN EDUCATION.

BELIEVING IN RESPECTING YOUR CULTURE.

BELIEVING IN DISCIPLINE.

BELIEVING IN CHARACTER FORMATION.

ALL THOSE THINGS YOU GOT TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD.

IT IS ALL THAT CAN EXIT TO THE UNITED STATES AS WELL.

IN LOUISIANA WE THINK ABOUT LOUISIANA AND THE WEEDS -- THE LOUISIANA PURCHASE WHAT HAPPENED?

IT WAS BOTH HAPPENING WITH BONAPARTE, HE NEEDED MORE MONEY TO SUPPRESS THE SLAVES.

TO SUPPRESS THE SLAVES AND NEEDED MORE RESOURCES.

THE FRENCH WERE ABLE TO GET INTO THIS ARRANGEMENT, WITH THE LOUISIANA PURCHASE AND ALLOWED US TO HAVE THAT HUGE PART OF THE UNITED STATES THAT WE ALL ENJOYED TO BE PART OF THIS COUNTRY.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF BLACKS IN AMERICA, THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, CHICAGO AND THE WORLD FAIR.

THE FACT THAT ONE OF THE BLACK REPUBLICS FEATURED IN THE FIRST WORLD FAIR WAS HAITI.

WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT FREDERICK DOUGLASS?

HIM BEING, WE DID NOT WANT TO CALL HIM AN AMBASSADOR AT THE TIME IT CAME WITH ALL SORTS OF NAMES.

WHO ACTUALLY FIRST REPRESENTED A FOREIGN NATION AS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN?

AT THE TIME WE WERE ALL JUST BLACK.

THERE IT WAS, THAT WAS THE CONNECTION.

WE THINK OF THE ARTS, CATHERINE, AND THE BEAUTIFUL OF THE ARTS.

>> WE GOT IT, MURRAY.

>> I WILL NOT TOUCH ON ON W.E.B.

DUBOIS.

>> SHE HAS A LOT OF HISTORY AND CULTURE TO CELEBRATE HERE.

AT THE SAME TIME, ALEX, WE ARE AT THE MOMENT IN TIME, WHERE THERE IS A LOT MORE PRESSURES ON HAITI, I WOULD SAY.

GOING BACK TO THAT HISTORY, TO KNOW IF YOU BECOME THE FIRST INDEPENDENT BLACK REPUBLIC THERE WAS A LOT OF PRESSURE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES NOT TO ALLOW HAITI TO INFECT INDEPENDENCE TO OTHER PLACES.

THERE WERE PRESSURES TO GO AGAINST HAITI SUCCESS.

>> TOTALLY.

THE BEST WAY TO BEGIN WITH THAT, IS FROM THE PRIME MINISTER OF HAITI.

IN A MEETING WITH THE KELLOGG FOUNDATION, SHE SAID HAITI WAS THE FIRST PLACE TO AFFIRM THAT BLACK LIVES MATTER AND HAS BEEN PAYING FOR IT EVER SINCE.

I THINK THAT SUMMARIZES WERE HAITI IS.

WHAT HAITI DID WAS NOT JUST SAY BLACK LIVES MATTER, YOU MAKE SOMEBODY A SLAVE YOU HAVE TO DEHUMANIZE THEM.

YOU HAVE TO DEVALUE THEM.

WHAT HAITI SAID, BUT WE CELEBRATE THIS MONTH, IS THE FACT THAT EVERY PERSON IS A PERSON.

NO HUMAN BEING SHOULD OWN ANOTHER HUMAN BEING.

NO COUNTRY SHOULD OWN ANOTHER COUNTRY.

THAT AFFIRMATION OF SAINT BLACK LIVES MATTER, -- SAYING BLACK LIVES MATTER.

THIS GOES BEYOND WHAT WE SEE WITH THE POLICE BRUTALITY.

WITH THE DEVALUING OF BLACK LIVES AND BLACK BODIES, TO SAYING BLACK LIVES MATTER.

I THINK THAT'’S WHAT THE HAITIAN REVOLUTION IN HAITI REPRESENTS.

IN TODAY AND WHAT IT MEANS.

HAITI HAS PAID FOR IT EVER SINCE.

WHAT IS HAPPENING IN HAITI AS PART OF THAT LEGACY OF COLONIALISM.

AND IN SLAVERY.

THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE SAYING.

THIS NOTION THAT WE DID NOT BELONG, WE DO NOT DESERVE.

HAITI DID NOT BELONG IN THE GLOBAL SYSTEM AT THE TIME.

HAITI DID NOT DESERVE TO BE FREE.

THEREFORE WE ARE GOING TO PENALIZE.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING TODAY.

THE TURMOIL THAT MARIE STINKS ABOUT IS THAT -- SPEAKS ABOUT IS THAT LEGACY.

HAITI WAS ISOLATED FOR NEARLY 100 YEARS AFTER INDEPENDENCE.

AND THEN FOR HAITI TO BECOME PART OF THE WORLD COMMUNITY, HAITI HAD TO PAY FRANCE THE EQUIVALENT OF TODAY 30 BILLION.

THAT IS THE COST OF HAITIAN FREEDOM.

THIS AFFIRMATION OF BLACK LIVES MATTER.

THAT IS THE COST HAITI IS STILL PAYING TODAY.

WITH THE KELLOGG CONDITION, THIS MONTH, I MEAN YESTERDAY, AND ANNOUNCED THIS CAMPAIGN CALLED PACKETS OF HOPE.

THAT IS A TERM WE BORROWED SAYING THAT THERE ARE REALLY IMPACTFUL THINGS GOING ON IN HAITI.

WHAT WE ARE HEARING AND SEEING IN THE NEWS IS NOT ALL THERE IS.

THERE IS 11 NOON PEOPLE, DEPEND -- MILLION PEOPLE DEPEND ON HOW WE COUNT.

CHILDREN THAT HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL EVERYDAY.

HAVE TO BEEFY -- TO BE FED EVERY DAY, MOTHERS HAVE TO GIVE BIRTH.

FATHERS, THERE ARE 11 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE PLAYS THAT ARE SURVIVING AND LIVING EVERYDAY AND THEY DESERVE BETTER.

>> WE WILL CIRCLE BACK TO PROJECTS OF HOPE.

RIGHT NOW YOU ARE OFFERING HOPE TO A LOT OF IMMIGRANTS FROM HAITI.

OVER 1000 IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS THAT HAVE ARRIVED IN BOSTON.

AS WE HAVE SAID THERE IS A SPECIAL MASSACHUSETTS CONNECTION WITH HAITI AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE HISTORY.

THE REALITY IS THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME AND THE NEED RESOURCES AND SHELTER.

IT IS A CRISIS THAT THEY HAVE ESCAPED FROM, SOME OF THE CONDITIONS ALEX HAS REFERRED TO.

SOME THEY'’RE NOT AWARE THERE IS GANG VIOLENCE ON THE RISE, IN JANUARY THE LAST OF THE STATE SENATORS RESIGNED.

A LOT OF CHAOS GOING ON IN HAITI.

PEOPLE HAVE ARRIVED HERE LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE AND A WAY TO CONNECT WITH THE THIRD LARGEST PATIENT IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES.

HOW ARE YOU -- HAITIAN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES.

HOW DO YOU ENTER FACT -- INTERACT WITH FOLKS?

>> THANK YOU, MONTH OF MAY, HAITIAN HERITAGE MONTH.

WE CELEBRATE THE 220TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FLAG THAT IDENTIFIED HAITI AS A NATION.

THE RESIDENCY OF THE PEOPLE OF HAITI, BASICALLY, DESPITE ALL THE -- THAT THEY FACE ON A DAILY BASIS.

THEY ARE FINE, TO LEAVE HAITI THROUGH TRAVEL OF CENTRAL AMERICAN COUNTRIES.

IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THEM TO MAKE IT ALTHOUGH THEY FACE MANY DRAMATIC SITUATIONS ON THEIR JOURNEY TO MAKE IT TO THE MEXICAN BORDERS.

WAITING TO MAKE IT TO THE UNITED STATES.

THEY HAVE THE HOPE, BASICALLY, WHEN THEY ARRIVE.

WHEN THEY ARE ABLE TO CROSS THE BORDERS.

THEY MAKE THEIR WAY TO MASSACHUSETTS, HOPING TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THEIR LIVES.

THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE HELPING THEM TO UNDERSTAND BY ACTING THEM WITH DIFFERENT RESOURCES.

TELLING THEM -- CONNECTING THEM WITH DIFFERENT RESOURCES.

WE ARE SERVING THEM A GOD OF HOPE.

TO MAKE IT TO THE BORDERS, THEY ARE ABLE BECAUSE THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DEPORTED THE PAST TWO YEARS.

THE FACT THAT THOSE THAT ARRIVE HERE IN SEARCH OF THE, TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THEIR LIVES, AS A PASTOR AS A COMMUNITY LEADER, ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT.

THAT IS SOMETHING I CAN DO ON MY OWN, I HAVE TO CONNECT WITH ALL SOCIAL, LEGAL, INSTITUTIONS.

ON THE GROUND, BUT ALSO CONNECT WITH STATE DISABILITIES AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HELP THOSE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THERE IS HOPE FOR THEM IN THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS.

>> WILL THERE BE ROOM FOR THEM, PASTOR IN THE INN?

THERE IS A LOT OF FOLKS, MORE CAME EVEN LAST YEAR.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

WE ARE NOT IN A NATIONWIDE CONVERSATION ABOUT IMMIGRATION LARGELY, BROADLY, IS NOT WELCOMING, LET'’S JUST SAY.

YOU ARE OPERATING AGAINST THAT.

DOES NOT MATTER WHO THE IMMIGRANT IS THE CONVERSATION TENDS TO BE SOMEWHAT NEGATIVE.

HOW DO HUMANS THAT AT THIS TIME?

>> UNDERSTANDING FORGING A RELATIONSHIP WITH A DIVERSE ORGANIZATIONS, IMMIGRANT FAMILY SERVICES INSTITUTE THAT I WORK CLOSELY WITH JUST TO CONNECT THOSE IMMIGRANTS WITH DIFFERENT RESOURCES.

WE UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT THE HOUSING LANDSCAPE IS.

WE UNDERSTAND WHEN WE BRING THE ISSUE TO THE MAYOR, TO THE CITY OF BOSTON MAYOR.

HE UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE AT AND FINDS WAY BASICALLY TO CALL THE GOVERNORS TO SEE HOW CAN USE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

USE THE HOTELS, USE THE MOTELS, USE THE MILITARY BASES.

ESTABLISH COMMON CENTERS FOR THOSE MIGRANTS.

EVEN THOUGH WE SCATTERED THEM THROUGHOUT MASSACHUSETTS.

RIGHT NOW THEY ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT MASSACHUSETTS.

MASSACHUSETTS IS A VERY WEALTHY STATE.

THEY CAN COME TO A CONFERENCE A PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE HOPE AND THE ACCOMMODATION FOR THESE FAMILIES.

>> HOW DOES PROJECT HOPE, THE PROJECTS HOPE THE KELLOGG FOUNDATION HAS PUT $90 MILLION INTO IF WE UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT.

>>.

TRY TO RAISE.

>> TRY TO RAISE $90 MILLION FOR THE EFFORT TO CONNECT WITH WHAT IS ON THE GROUND, NOT JUST THE -- >> THE PROJECTS OF HOPE CAMPAIGN IS TO REALLY INVESTED WHAT IS HAPPENING IN HAITI.

LOOK AT SOME OF THE PARTNERS WE WORK WITH BREAKER IN BOSTON, SAYING -- SEND MONEY FOR THE HASTY -- HAITI FOUNDATION.

>> BOSTON IS CRITICAL TO THIS?

>> VERY CRITICAL.

YOU HAVE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO REMAIN IN HAITI.

THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH TEACHERS WITH A SUPPORT NETWORK OF SCHOOLS IN HAITI.

SOME IS EDUCATION, THAT IS BASED HERE IN BOSTON.

TEACHERS ARE LEAVING THE COUNTRY.

NURSES ARE LEAVING.

THERE IS A NEED FOR PEOPLE TO REMAIN.

OUR PRIMARY GOAL IS TO INVEST IN MAKING SURE THAT WE SUPPORT LOCAL INITIATIVES THAT ARE IMPACTFUL.

THAT WOULD THEN ENABLE KEY FOLKS TO REMAIN IN THE COUNTRY AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT 11 MILLION PEOPLE CRITICALLY, URGENTLY NEED.

EDUCATION, HEALTH, AGRICULTURE.

THAT IS OUR FIRST PRIORITY.

IN TERMS OF WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH IMMIGRATION WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

WE WORK IN MEXICO, WE WORK IN COSTA RICA, HUNTER IS, WAS -- HONDURAS, BRAZIL.

I WAS IN TIJUANA RIGHT BEFORE COVID VISITING THE MIGRANTS THAT WERE THERE.

THERE IS A LOT OF CHILDREN.

WE HAD TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE SUPPORT THESE CHILDREN.

BOTH IN TERMS OF THE TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCES OF GOING TO THE JOURNEY.

WHEN I WAS THERE SPEAKING TO THE FAMILIES A LOT OF YOUNG CHILDREN.

MANY OF THEM WERE NOT BORN IN HAITI.

THAT MEANS THEY MAY NOT SPEAK CREOLE, SOME SPEAK SPANISH, OTHERS SPEAK PORTUGUESE.

WHAT SERVICES DO YOU PROVIDE FOR THEM?

WE SEE THEM ALL HIS HAITIANS BEHIND WE SUPPORT THESE KIDS?

ANOTHER THING I LEARNED BEING AT THE BORDER, U.S. MEXICO BORDER, WAS THAT EVERY FAMILY I SPOKE WITH OR SPOKE TO EXPERIENCE, OR AT LEAST THE GROUP, THEY TRAVEL IN GROUPS.

SOMEBODY DIED.

AT LEAST ONE PERSON.

THERE IS TRAUMA.

PEOPLE ARE RAPED.

THERE IS A LOT OF TRAUMA ASSOCIATED WITH THAT JOURNEY.

FOR US IS HOW YOU DO WITHOUT?

HOW DO YOU -- DEAL WITH THAT?

HOW DO YOU SUPPORT THE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN EXPERIENCE THAT TRAUMA OVER A PERIOD OF TIME?

IT IS A VERY LONG JOURNEY.

IF YOU VISUALIZE MEXICO, THOSE FOLKS ARRIVE EVEN AFTER THAT JOURNEY THEY ARRIVE AT THE SOUTHERN PART OF THAT MEXICO AND TRY TO MAKE IT TO NORTHERN MEXICO.

AND SAME WITH THEIR STANDARD IN MASSACHUSETTS THEY ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT MEXICO.

WE ARE LOOKING AT SUPPORTING BOTH THE HAITIAN MIGRANTS IN MEXICO AND HOW TO SUPPORT THEM HERE IN THE U.S. AS WELL.

>> MARIA, YOU HAVE IN OUR LAST-MINUTE HERE, YOU ARE STILL WORKING ON POLICY.

HAVING SERVED AND YOU CONTINUE TO SERVE IN VARIOUS ROLES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HAITI AND HAITIAN AMERICANS THAT LIVE HERE.

OR WHO MAY COME TO LIVE HERE.

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?

I KNOW THERE IS CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

ARE THERE TWO CRITICAL POINTS OR EVEN ONE CRITICAL POINT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW THAT CAN ADVANCE, SOME OF THE PROJECTS OF HOPE THAT CAN SUPPORT WITH WHAT THE REVEREND IS DOING WITH PEOPLE THAT ARRIVED.

UNDERSTANDING WHAT ALEX JUST SAID, AND HAVE YOU HAVE EMPHASIZED YOU DO NOT WANT EVERYONE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY.

PEOPLE NEED TO BE OF THE LIVE THERE.

>> THE UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL CAME OUT OF THE REPORT IN EARLY MAY.

TWO POINTS THAT THEY RAISED I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON.

ONE, THE COMMUNITY SECURITY.

COMMUNITY SECURITY FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF REALLY CONVENING THE COMMUNITY IN HAITI IN ORDER TO HELP THEM TO SUPPORT THEM AND THEIR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND HOW THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN SECURITY IN HAITI.

I WOULD SAY IF YOU THINK OF IT AS A CRIME SCENE AND PUT A YELLOW TAPE AROUND IT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PARTICULAR STRATEGY FOR THAT SPACE.

YOU THINK ABOUT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AND BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE POCKETS OF HOPE.

THAT IS ONE PIECE.

THE SECOND PIECE THE NEED TO FOCUS ON, IS REALLY, THE SOCIAL ECONOMIC PIECE.

JOBS AND FOOD SECURITY.

I THINK OF IT CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THAT, THAT WOULD BE VERY CRITICAL.

THE UNITED STATES HERE, WE NEED BETTER COORDINATION OF SERVICES.

IN MASSACHUSETTS I WANT TO GIVE IT UP TO THE GOVERNOR AND THE MAYOR FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE THUS FAR IN.

TERMS OF RESOURCES THEY PUT OUT COORDINATION IS THE ISSUE, PLACES LIKE THE BOSTON MEDICAL CENTER THAT HAS TO ABSORB SOME OF THAT THAT WHEN THEY COMMEND, WE DO NOT HAVE THE INNER STRUCTURE FOR HOUSING -- WHEN THEY COME IN.

THEY DO NOT HAVE THE STRUCTURE FOR HOUSING AND WHAT THEY DO WHEN THEY GET HERE.

THOSE ARE MY HAVE TO HAPPEN.

COMMUNITY SECURITY, SUPPORT EFFORTS ON THE GROUND, SOCIAL ECONOMIC JOBS AS WELL AS FOOD.

AND HERE, BETTER COORDINATION OF RESOURCES.

>> THAT IS WHERE WE WILL LEAVE IT NOW, THIS IS AN ONGOING CONVERSATION, THE END OF OUR SHOW.

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