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>> ERC: COMING UP ON TONIGHT'S SHOW, WE'LL CHECK IN WITH A MEMBER OF MINNESOTA'S JEWISH COMMUNITY ABOUT THE HAMAS ATTACK IN ISRAEL AND THE NOW ONGOING WAR IN GAZA, TAKE A LOOK AT HEART HEALTH DISPARITIES, A POLITICAL PANEL FILLS THE COUCH, AND MARY LAHAMMER HAS BEEN FOLLOWING DRAMA AT THE STATE CAPITOL.

>> Mary: WE'LL CATCH UP WITH THE PRODUCERS BEHIND A NEW PODCAST.

>> I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE GOTTEN YOURSELF INTO.

>> WONDERFUL.

>> Mary: THAT LIFTS THE VEIL HERE AT THE CAPITOL FOR FOLKS FROM BROUGHT A PLAY.

>> HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES TO SERVE THE INTERESTS OF MINNESOTANS?

>> Mary: THAT'S COMING UP ON "ALMANAC."

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>> ERIC: IN THE NEXT HOUR, WE'LL EXAMINE HEALTH DISPARITIES IN MINNESOTA, KAOMI LEE TAKES US TO A RESERVATION IN SOUTH DAKOTA THAT IS FOCUSING EFFORTS ON DECOLONIZATION, AND A COUCH FULL OF POLITICOS ANALYZES...

POLITICS.

>> CATHY: WE START TONIGHT WITH THE BIGGEST INTERNATIONAL NEWS OF THE WEEK, LAST WEEKEND'S BRUTAL HAMAS ATTACK ON ISRAEL, FOLLOWED BY ISRAEL'S DECLARATION OF WAR ON HAMAS, HAS LEFT THOUSANDS DEAD OR MISSING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER BETWEEN ISRAEL AND THE GAZA STRIP.

SEVERAL VIGILS HAVE BEEN HELD ACROSS THE TWIN CITIES THIS WEEK, INCLUDING ONE AT BETH EL SYNAGOGUE IN ST. LOUIS PARK.

STEVE HUNEGS WAS AT THAT GATHERING.

HE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY RELATIONS COUNCIL OF MINNESOTA AND THE DAKOTAS.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> GOOD EVENING, CATHY, GOOD EVENING, ERIC.

>> Cathy: EX ONLY IMAGINE THE PAIN AND THE ANGER IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY.

HOW ARE FOLKS DEALING WITH THIS?

>> THE FIRST THOUGHT THAT CAME TO MY MIND WAS A LINE FROM THE YEPECHENKO POEM, BLOODY ARE.

IT'S BLOOD RUSHING OVER THE STREAMS.

THAT'S IN KILLING FIELDS, IN UKRAINE, WORLD WAR II.

OF COURSE WE LIVE IN A DIFFERENT TIME.

ISRAEL HAS THE IDEA YOU HAVE TO DEFEND THE NATION AND I WOULD SAY ISRAEL HAS A POWERFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UNITED STATES, RIGHT?

BACK-STOPPING ISRAEL, SO WE DO LIVE IN A DIFFERENT TIME BUT WHEN JEWS SEE BARBARITY, ATROCITIES, MACHINE-GUNNING, BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, KILLING OF CHILDREN, THIS HAS A STRONG HISTORICAL RELEVANCE AND RESONANCE WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND OF COURSE WE'RE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL IS HUGE.

SOLIDARITY GATHERING THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO, TUESDAY, AT BETH EL.

SENATOR KLOBUCHAR WORK, GOVERNOR WALZ SPOKE, A LETTER FROM TOM EMMER.

SO THE DELEGATION IN MINNESOTA IS VERY SUPPORTING OF ISRAEL.

THAT'S COMFORTING.

>> Eric: WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS AND OTHERS WHO EXPRESSED SYMPATHY FOR THE PALESTINIANS IN THE SITUATION?

>> IT'S EVEN DEEPER THAN THAT, THOUGH, ERIC.

THE FIRST AT THE SAME TIME FROM THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS AND BY THE WAY, KEN MARTIN, OF THE DFL, HAS OFF TO HIM FOREHIS TALKING BACK AND SEEKING ESSENTIALLY EXPULSION FROM THE DSA.

>> Eric: THEY TOOK A SECOND SWING AT THEIR STATEMENT, I GUESS.

>> LET'S LOOK AT THE FIRST STATEMENT FIRST.

NO MENTION OF HAMAS, ZERO, NO MENTION OF TERRORISM, DESPITE THE ATROCITIES COMMITTED.

WHAT'S THE LAST LINE?

WE BELIEVE IN LIBERATION OF PALESTINIAN FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

NO ROOM FOR ISRAEL, ENDS OF ISRAEL, EXTERMINATION OF ISRAEL.

YES, TODAY, THEY ISSUED A SECOND STATEMENT.

TOO LATE, NO CORRECT TO THAT STATEMENT, NO REPUDIATION OF THE LINE FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, HAS NO CREDIBILITY AS FAR AS I'M ONCERNED.

>> Cathy: FORMER HAMAS LEADER WAS CABLING TODAY FOR A DAY OF RAGE, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PRO-MINERALLIES AROUND THE WORLD.

ARE JEWS CONCERNED FOR THEIR SAFETY, INCLUDING HERE IN MINNESOTA?

>> COMMUNITY SECURITY IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE JCRCR ORGANIZATION, THAT'S ONE OF OUR MISSIONS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY AND PLEASED TO REPORT THAT AS EVER, WE HAVE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF COOPERATION AT ALL LEVELS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, STATE, LOCAL, FEDERAL.

WE FEEL VERY SECURE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AT TUESDAY'S EVENT, WE HAD 2,000 PEOPLE, ANOTHER 1,000 WATCHED ONLINE, IT WAS VERY SECURE EVENT.

NEVERTHELESS, WE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE WORLD.

USUALLY, UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THERE ARE FLARE-UPS, IT'S FAR MORE THAN A SNARE-UP, IT'S A WAR NOW IN THE MIDDLE EAST BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS.

YOU HAVE A SPILL-OVER EFFECT.

2021, MAY, WHEN THE LEVEL OF CONFRONTATION WAS MUCH LOWER, YOU HAD JEWS BEATEN IN THE STREETS IN NEW YORK, LOS ANGELES, CHICAGO, BECAUSE THEY WERE PERCEIVED AS SUPPORTERS OF ISRAEL OR WERE OUT DEMONSTRATING ON BEHALF OF ISRAEL.

>> Eric: IS THE JEWISH COMMUNITY OF ONE MIND ON THE PALESTINIAN ISSUE?

>> NO.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT MINDS.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THE PALESTINIAN ISSUE.

I THINK SAY THAT THE CONFLICT, THE HAMAS TERRORISM, THE BARBARISM, HAS BROUGHT THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, IT'S BROUGHT ISRAEL TOGETHER, TOO.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED USUALLY WITH THE DEBATE OVER THE DEMOCRACY MOVEMENT IN ISRAEL.

ISRAEL'S CALLED UP 360,000 RESERVISTS, PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER WORLD, VEN PEOPLE WHO ARE BEYOND MILITARY AGE ARE RETURNING TO ISRAEL.

IF HAMAS THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO EXPLOIT DIVISIONS BETWEEN THE ISRAEL SOCIETY, THE EXACT OPPOSITE HAS HAPPENED.

>> Eric: BUT IF SOMEONE SAYS I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE JEWISH PEOPLE OR ISRAEL CITIZENS, MY BEEF IS WITH THE NETANYAHU GOVERNMENT.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF AMERICAN JEWS HOLD THAT OPINION, TOO.

I'M NOT SURE HOW IT RELATES TO -- YOU MAY HAVE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION WITH THE NET AN YAW HUE GOVERNMENT, THERE ARE A LOT OF JEWS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS BUT ISRAEL HAS THE INVIABLE RIGHT TO DEFEND ITS.

YOU'RE AND HAMAS CHARTER SAYS WHAT?

>> DESTROY ISRAEL, DESTROY THE JEWS.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, THERE IS NO ROOM FOR JEWS IN THE MIDDLE EAST UNDERSTAND THE HARASS CHARTER.

>> Eric: HOW DOES THIS ENDS OR DOES IT?

>> AFTER 100 YEARS, IT'S HARD TO BE OPTIMISTIC, I HAVE TO SAY.

ON THE OTHER HAND, BEN GURION WOULD ALWAYS SAY THAT BELIEVING IN MIRACLES IS THE WORK OF A REALIST, I WOULD SAY AFTER THE I DON'T KNOW KUPUR WAR IN 1963, AND THAT WHEREAS A CONFLICT BETWEEN SOVEREIGN STATES, ISRAEL AND SYRIA, BUT OUT OF THE '73 WAR ULTIMATELY CAME THE EGYPT-ISRAEL PEACE TREATY.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND HOW THAT CAME TO MASS BUT THAT IS THE FACT THAT THAT CONFLICT LED TO PEACE AND BEGAN THE WAY WITH PLEASE FOREISRAEL AND ITS NEIGHBORS.

HARD TO SEE, THOUGH, COMING OUTS OF THIS CONFLICT RIGHT NOW.

>> Eric: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OVER.

>> CATHY: THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, STEVE.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE IMPACT OF THIS WAR ON MINNESOTANS.

TUNE IN NEXT FRIDAY NIGHT FOR A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS FAMILY TIES TO GAZA.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> ERIC: MINNESOTANS ARE MORE LIKELY TO DIE FROM CARDIOVASCULAR RELATED ILLNESSES THAN THEY WERE JUST A DECADE AGO.

AND FOR BLACK AND NATIVE AMERICAN MINNESOTANS, THE DEATH RATE IS DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE STATEWIDE AVERAGE AND HITS YOUNGER AGE GROUPS.

THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HAS CREATED A PLAN TO ADDRESS THESE INEQUITIES.

HERE WITH MORE, SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THIS CLOSELY.

AVA KIAN COVERS ISSUES OF RACE AND HEALTH EQUITY FOR THE ONLINE NEWS PUBLICATION MINNPOST.COM.

WELCOME TO "ALMANAC."

>> THANK YOU.

>> Eric: SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THIS ARE THE SAME FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO ALL KINDS OF GAPS, INEQUITABLE RESULTS BETWEEN MINORITIES AND THE WHITE POPULATION.

>> RIGHT, YEAH, WHEN THINKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE, SO MUCH OF IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE ACTUAL CLINICAL SETTING AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT -- AND THIS PLAN, THE CREATORS OF THE PLAN WERE VERY AWARE OF AND WANTED JUST HOSPITALS TO KNOW THAT SO MUCH OF IT IS NOT ACTUALLY IN THAT CLINIC SETTING.

>> Cathy: WOW.

LIKE 80% OF HEALTH OUTCOMES OCCUR OUTSIDE THE CLINIC OFFICE.

HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT?

YEAH, SO A LOT OF IT COMES TO HAVING STAFF WHO CAN GO OUT TO SOMEONE'S HOUSE, RIGHT?

SOME OF THE FACTORS FAMILIES CAN'T CHANGE, RIGHT, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, YOU KNOW, JUST GENETIC DISPOSITION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, THE PLAN WANTS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO SEEK OUT CARE.

>> Eric: HOW DO THEY DO THAT?

>> BY BRINGING THE PEOPLE TO THEM, THAT'S ONE OPTION.

SO THIS PLAN LAYS OUT TEN DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES AND STRATEGIES.

ONE OF THEM THEY HIGHLIGHTED A PLAN CALLED HEALTHFULLERS, A CLINIC WITH LOOKS IN OWATONNA, NORTHFIELD, AND THEY'VE HAD SO MUCH SUCCESS WITH CLINICAL HEALTH WORKERS THAT GO INTO COMMUNITIES.

THEY'VE ACTUALLY SEEN 15% INCREASE IN THEIR DIABETES PATIENTS IN THEIR ROLL, SO MORE PATIENTS ARE HAVING CONTROL OVER THEIR DIABETES WITHIN THREE YEARS.

>> Cathy: ALMOST LIKE A VISITING NURSE PROGRAM?

>> YEAH, SO THEY'LL COME IN, THEY'LL TRY AND CHECK THEIR MEASURES AND DO EVERYTHING INSIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THEY'VE SEEN IT WORK SO FAR.

>> Cathy: DO THEY KNOW, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THIS ERA OF WEARABLE DEVICES, YOU KNOW, APPLE WATCHES AND THAT KIND OF THING, AND IS THAT ALSO COULD THAT BE A HELP IN DOING SOME OF THIS, TOO, AND MAYBE IND OF LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD IN A SENSE?

>> YEAH, IT COULD CREATE MORE ACCESS, RIGHT, BUT THEN YOU GET DOWN TO WHO CAN AFFORD THAT AND WHO HAS THE TIME, RIGHT, TO USE THOSE DEVICES.

>> Eric: THE PLAN ENVISIONS WHAT KIND OF MOBILIZATION ANY MEAN, WHO PAYS FOR IT, HOW WIDESPREAD IS IT?

GIVE US SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.

>> YEAH, SO THE STATE CONSULTED AROUND 100 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS IN CREATING THE PLAN FROM DIFFERENT HOSPITALS TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND, REALLY, THEY WANTED TO CREATE A WAY FOR THEM TO PUT IN INPUT, RIGHT?

SO THE GOAL WOULD BE FOR DIFFERENT HOSPITALS TO THEN LOOK AT THIS PLAN AND SAY BASED OFF OUR COMMUNITY, HERE IS A NEED WE HAVE.

THIS IS HOW THE PLAN RECOMMENDED ONE PLACE DID IT.

IT GIVES THE OUTLINE OF WHAT OTHER PLACES HAVE DONE SO THERE IS A REFERENCE PATH FOR THE ENTIRE STATE.

>> Cathy: HOW WILL THEY MEASURE SUCCESS?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

HOW CAN WE TOLD THE STATE ACCOUNTABLE TO THESE OUTCOMES?

ONE WAY THEY WANT TO DO THAT IS JUST BY CONTINUING TO MEASURE THOSE OUTCOMING, RIGHT?

SO EACH INDIVIDUAL CLINIC IS GOING TO BE MEASURING THOSE OUTCOMES, WHETHER IT'S DIABETES CONTROL OR IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT MEASURES.

>> Cathy: DISEASE OR -- >> HEART DISEASE, YEAH, HOSPITALIZATION RATES, THAT'S SOMETHING THE STATE IS REALLY CLOSELY TRACKING.

>> Cathy: AND REHOSPITALIZATION RATES I'M SURE, TOO, RIGHT?

>> YES.

>> Cathy: SO WHO PAYS FOR THIS?

WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM?

>> SO THE PLAN IS MORE SO JUST AN IDEA, RIGHT?

IT'S CREATING AN OUTLINE FOR DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO THEN UTILIZE.

THE FUNDING PART, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING STRAIGHT INTO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

>> Eric: MINNPOTS.COM AND YOU EVER STORIES ON THIS ONLINE?

>> YEAH, ON CARDIOVASCULAR HEALTH AND OTHER RACE AND EQUITY ISSUES.

>> Eric: THANKS FOR COMING OVER.

NICE TO SEE YOU.

>> Cathy: THANK YOU.

>> YOU TOO.

>> CATHY: FOUR DAKOTA TRIBES WERE EXILED FROM MINNESOTA AFTER THE DAKOTA UPRISING IN 1862.

REPORTER KAOMI LEE CROSSES THE BORDER INTO SOUTH DAKOTA TO VISIT ONE TRIBE THAT HAS NEVER FORGOTTEN IT.

>> KAOMI: J. GARRET RENVILLE IS CHAIRMAN OF THE SISSETON WAHPETON OYATE NATION IN SOUTH DAKOTA.

>> SISSETOWAN WAHPETOWAN, THAT'S HOW YOU SAY IT.

BASICALLY, IT'S FISHSCALE VILLAGE.

>> KAOMI: HE'S ALSO THE GREAT- GREAT-GREAT-GRANDSON OF THE TRIBE'S LAST CHIEF, GABRIEL RENVILLE.

HE SAYS HE OFTEN COMES TO HIS ANCESTOR'S GRAVE FOR GUIDANCE.

>> DEPENDING ON HOW YOU VIEW HISTORY, HE COULD BE A CONTROVERSIAL PERSON.

>> KAOMI: GABRIEL RENVILLE WAS KNOWN FOR TRYING TO BROKER PEACE DURING THE DAKOTA OUTBREAK OR UPRISING OF 1862.

SEVERAL BANDS OF DAKOTA ATTACKED WHITE SETTLEMENTS AFTER DELAYED U.S. TREATY PAYMENTS STARVED THEIR PEOPLE.

>> PEOPLE CALL IT AN UPRISING OR OUTBREAK.

I'VE HEARD VARIOUS NAMES.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT DISPLACED MOST OF THE DAKOTAS OUT OF MINNEOSTA WHICH IS OUR ANCESTRAL HOMELAND.

>> KAOMIP IN 1863, CONGRESS EXILED ALL FOUR DAKOTA TRIBES FROM MINNESOTA.

THAT FEDERAL LEGISLATION REMAINS TO THIS DAY.

>> IN THIS DAY AND AGE, THE TOPIC OF EXILE IS STILL DOMINANT NARRATIVE IN MOST DAKOTA HOMES.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDRESSING HISTORICAL WRONGS AND HISTORICAL TRAUMA, SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO DAKOTA PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE 1863 EXILE ACT AND HOW DOES IT AFFECT US TODAY AS DAKOTA PEOLE, AS A DISPLACED PEOPLE.

AND WHY IS THAT BOOK ON THE LAWBOOKS TODAY?

THAT WHOLE NARRATIVE THAT AUTHORED THAT OR THE REMOVAL LAW IS BASED ON THE PREMISE THAT THERE'S A BAD INDIAN -- A GOOD INDIAN AND A BAD INDIAN.

IF YOU WERE EXILED OUT OF MINNESOTA, YOU WERE A BAD INDIAN.

>> KAOMI: IN A STATEMENT, MINNESOTA GOVERNOR TIM WALZ SAID, MINNESOTA CANNOT UNDUE THE FEDERAL LAW THAT EXILED THE DAKOTA PEOPLE BUT WE CAN ENGAGE IN AUTHENTIC GOVERNMENT-TO-GOVERNMENT RELATIONSHIPS WITH TRIBAL NATIONS.

LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR PEGGY FLANAGAN ADDED, THE LANDS IN MINNESOTA ARE HOME TO SEVEN OJIBWE AND FOUR DAKOTA FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBAL NATIONS, BUT TRIBAL-STATE RELATIONS IN MINNESOTA HAVE NOT BEEN ROOTED IN HONORING SOVEREIGNTY.

THEY HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY PATERNALISTIC AND ROOTED IN REMOVAL.

THAT IS WHY WE ARE WORKING CONTINUOUSLY WITH TRIBAL LEADERS TO ADVANCE OUR SHARED PRIORITIES.

THE SISSETON WAHPETON OYATE ARE REMINDED OF THAT EVERY DAY ON THE BLUFFS AND PLAINS OF THEIR NEW HOME.

>> OUR RESERVATION IS SHAPED LIKE A TRIANGLE AND WE STARTED OUT WITH 918,000 ACRES AND NOW WE ARE CLOSE TO AROUND 200,000 ACRES AFTER THE ALLOTMENT ACT >> KAOMI: ABOUT HALF OF THE BAND'S 14,800 MEMBERS LIVE ON THE RESERVATION.

HE SAYS A DRUG EPIDEMIC, CHRONIC HEALTH ISSUES AND TRAUMA FROM DISPLACEMENT ARE A DIRECT RESULT OF COLONIZATION.

THAT'S SOMETHING RENVILLE INTENDS TO CORRECT, STARTING WITH FOOD SOVEREIGNTY.

>> THAT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS MY ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO PUSH FOR, THAT WE ARE FARMING OUR OWN LAND, BEING ABLE TO FEED OURSELVES, REALLY TAKING WHAT THE PANDEMIC HAS EXACERBATED AND BEING ABLE TO FIX THAT >> KAOMI: THE BAND HAS BEEN ALSO CULTIVATING AN 800-HEAD BUFFALO HERD ON MORE THAN 2000 ACRES OF GRASSLAND.

BUFFALO TECH STACY MILLER SAYS THEY HAVE ONE OF VERY FEW PURE GENE HERDS IN THE COUNTRY.

>> WE TRY TO KEEP THE GENETICS 100% PURE, SO THERE'S NOT BEEF GENES IN OUR HERD, AND ANYTIME WE HAVE OTHER ANIMALS THAT COME FROM DIFFERENT PLACES, WE HAVE THEM HELD IN A SEPARATE PEN.

WE HAVE THE BLOODWORK SENT BACK, WE WANT TO KEEP THEM 100% >> KAOMI: AND THEY'RE ACTIVELY HELPING OTHER TRIBES REPOPULATE, TOO.

FIFTEEN BUFFALO WILL SOON ARRIVE AT THE SHAKOPEE MDEWAKANTON BAND.

THE SOUTH DAKOTA BAND HAS JUST BUILT ITS OWN PROCESSING FACILITY.

THE HOPE IS TO ENCOURAGE TRADITIONAL FOODWAYS ON THE RESERVATION.

AND BE A MAJOR SUPPLIER ELSEWHERE WITH A RISING INDIGENOUS FOOD MOVEMENT.

>> WHERE WE'RE STANDING IS THE RESULT OF MANY... >> KAOMI: TAMARA ST. JOHN IS THE BAND'S TRIBAL ARCHIVIST AND HISTORIAN.

SHE TOOK ME TO THEIR SACRED BURIAL GROUNDS WHERE THE TRIBE PRACTICES TRADITIONAL PRAYERS AND RITES.

COLONIZATION ONCE MADE IT ILLEGAL.

>> NOW WE'RE NOT ONLY EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT SUPPORTS THAT CULTURAL IDENTITY BUT WE'RE RAISING THEM IN TRADITIONAL PRACTICE.

>> KAOMI: LAST MONTH, THE BAND MADE HEADLINES FOR REPATRIATING THE REMAINS OF TWO CHILDREN WHO DIED AT AN INDIAN BOARDING SCHOOL OUT EAST.

AMOS LAFRAMBOISE AND EDWARD UPRIGHT WERE THE SONS OF TRIBAL LEADERS AND DIED IN THE LATE 1800S.

THEY WERE SENT TO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT'S FLAGSHIP BOARDING SCHOOL IN CARLISLE, PENNSYLVANIA.

HOWEVER, BRINGING THEM HOME TOOK A SIX-YEAR BATTLE WITH THE U.S. ARMY.

>> WE'RE NOT ABLE OFTEN TO RETURN THEM TO THE PLACES THEY WERE STOLEN FROM, BUT HERE WE ARE ABLE TO BURY THEM AND RETURN THEM AND PROTECT THEM.

>> KAOMI: SHE SAYS THE CHILDREN WERE PART OF A FEDERAL POLICY OF ASSIMILATION.

THEY WERE FORBIDDEN TO SPEAK THEIR TRADITIONAL LANGUAGE OR WEAR TRADITIONAL CLOTHING.

THEY WERE ROBBED OF THEIR KINSHIP TIES.

IT WAS A WAY FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT TO BREAK THEIR TRIBAL SUCCESSION.

>> THIS IS HISTORIC.

THESE CHILDREN ARE THE CHILDREN OF CHIEFS.

WE KNOW THEY WOULD BE LEADERS.

WE LOST A WHOLE GENERATION OF LEADERSHIP WITH BOARDING SCHOOLS.

WE CHOSE TO HONOR THEM LIKE THE CHIEFS THAT THEY ARE.

>> KAOMI: THE CHILDREN WERE GIVEN A TRADITIONAL FOUR-DAY BURIAL WITH SONGS AND PRAYERS.

CHAIR RENVILLE'S DAKOTA NAME IS TI WAKAN INAGI, WHICH MEANS "SACRED LODGE."

HE SAYS BRINGING THEIR CHILDREN HOME, GROWING THEIR OWN FOOD, AND RE-INTRODUCING TRADITIONAL PRACTICES IS ALL PART OF THEIR INTENT TO DECOLONIZE.

RECLAIMING LAND IN MINNESOTA BEFORE THEIR EXILE IS ALSO HIGH ON THE LIST.

>> THAT'S OUR ANCESTRAL HOMELAND.

ONE OF THE TREATIES WE HAD SIGNED WAS GIVING UP 25 MILLION ACRES IN MINNESOTA.

THAT'S HARD TO FORGET THAT PAST.

♪♪ >> ERIC: MINNESOTA'S OWN BOB DYLAN LOOMS LARGE IN THE PANTHEON OF AMERICAN ARTISTS.

HIS 1975 ALBUM "BLOOD ON THE TRACKS" IS OFTEN CALLED ONE OF THE GREATEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME.

WHAT ISN'T WELL KNOWN IS THAT HALF OF THAT ALBUM WAS RECORDED RIGHT HERE IN THE TWIN CITIES, BACKED BY A HANDFUL OF SESSION PROS WHO DIDN'T APPEAR IN THE ALBUM CREDITS UNTIL JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.

VETERAN OF THE LOCAL MUSIC SCENE PAUL METSA AND LONG-TIME JOURNALIST AND AUTHOR RICK SHEFCHIK TEAMED UP TO WRITE A BOOK CHRONICLING THE STORIES OF THESE UNSUNG HEROES AND THOSE LEGENDARY MINNEAPOLIS SESSIONS.

THIS CAME TOGETHER BECAUSE PAUL HAD A BUNCH OF TAPED INTERVIEWS WITH THE MINNEAPOLIS SIX?

>> YES, WITH THE ORIGINAL SIX MUSICIANS WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER BY DAVID ZIMMERMAN, BOB'S BROTHER, AND PAUL HAS, FOR YEARS, DONE A LOT TO TRY TO KEEP THEM TOGETHER.

HE'S ACTUALLY PROMOTED -- AND I'M TAKING PAUL'S STORY HERE BUT, ANYWAY, HE KNEW THEM ALL, INTERVIEWED THEM ALL FOR HIS RADIO SHOW UT HE HAD THE TRANSCRIPTS AND WANTED TO PUT IT INTO A BOOK SO HE CONTACTED ME AND ASKED IF I WAS INTERESTED IN HELPING OUT AND I SAID ABSOLUTELY.

>> Eric: THIS WAS A TOP-SECRET RECORDING SESSION, WASN'T IT?

HE HAD RECORDED TRACKS IN NEW YORK, DIDN'T LIKE THEM, I GUESS HIS BROTHER PUT TOGETHER THE SESSION PROS IN MINNEAPOLIS?

>> YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.

DAVID ZIMMERMAN PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, VERY HUSH-HUSH, JUST TWO NIGHTS IN THE END OF DECEMBER, IN A KIND OF STARTED, BOB WAS LOOKING FOR THIS 1938 MARTIN GUITAR.

JUST SO HAPPENED THERE WAS ONE ON CONSIGNMENT ALMOST THE SAME YEAR, THE EXACT MODEL, AND SO -- >> Eric: AT THE PODIUM IN DINKYTOWN?

>> IN DINKYTOWN, YEAH.

DAVID IS THE ONE THAT COLD KEVIN ODEGARD, AND THEY HAD STARTED PUTTINGS THE BAND TOGETHER, AT SOUND 80, WHICH WAS THE BIG STUDIO.

AT THE TIME, BILL TEE PETTERSON, A BASS PLAYER AND DAVE BURG, A DRUMMER IN HIBBING, AS WELL, WERE KIND OF THE HOUSE RHYTHM SECTION DOWN THERE SO DAVID PUT THE THREE OF THEM TOGETHER.

ODEGARD CALLED WEBBER TO GET THE GUITAR.

HE ENDED UP KIND OF BEING THE BAND LEADER ON THE SESSIONS AND THEN PETER OSTROUSHKO AND GREG HOPPER WERE INVITED IN.

SO IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL MAGIC KIND OF NIGHTS.

>> Eric: THEY WERE JUST GOING TO DO IDIOT WIND AND THEY KEPT GOING?

>> IT WAS DAVID'S SUGGESTION TO BOB THAT HE DIDN'T REALLY HEAR A HIT ON THE ALBUM.

HE SAID IT'S A GREAT ALBUM BUT PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GET ON THE RADIO BUT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, BRING IN THESE GUYS AND MAYBE PUNCH IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND MAKE A LITTLE MORE DYNAMIC SO THEY THOUGHT "IDIOTS WIND" WOULD BE THE SONG TO TRY IT OFF AND SEE FIT WORKED.

THEY GOT ON A STUMBLING START, IT WAS A C SHARP MINOR CHORD, WHERE NO SONG HAS EVER STARTED IN THAT, AND ONCE THEY FELL INTO THE GROVE, THEY REALIZED THEY REALLY HAD SOMETHING THERE AND BOB SAID LET'S DO ANOTHER ONE.

AND THEY ENDED UP DOING TWO THAT NIGHT AND THEN THREE HE NEXT NIGHT.

>> Cathy: BUT WHY DID THE GUYS GET NO CREDITS?

OR MORE MONEY?

>> THE COVERS WERE ALREADY PRINTED UP BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO DO -- THE RECORD WAS GOING TO BE ALL THE NEW YORK SESSIONS SO BY THE TIME HE RECORD CAME OUT IN '75, THREE USED WHAT THEY HAD PRINTED.

THE BAND WAS PROMISED THAT THEY WOULD END UP IN THE SECOND PRESSING WHEN IT CAME OUT, THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

I PUT TOGETHER BOB DYLAN'S 60th BIRTHDAY PARTY AT FIRST AVENUE IN 2001.

I GOT HOLD OF KEVIN OEDGAARD, I SAID WHAT'S THE CHANCES OF GETTING THE ORIGINAL GUYS FROM THE SESSIONS TOGETHER, SO WE HAD FIVE OUT OF THE SIX GUYS, 40 OTHER BANDS FROM -- ON BOTH 7th STREETS ENTRY AND THE FIRST AVENUE STAGE AND IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THE BLOOD ON THE TRACKS BOYS HAD SEEN EACH OTHER AND PLAYED TOGETHER SINCE THOSE TWO NIGHTS IN DECEMBER.

AND THAT STARTED KIND OF RESTARTED THE CAMPAIGN FOR THEM TO GET THEIR NAMES ON THE RECORDS.

>> Cathy: SO THEY NEVER GOT ANY RESIDUALS, EITHER, FROM -- >> THEY GOT STUDIO SCALE THE NIGHTS THAT THEY PLAYED AND THAT AS IT.

AND THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY ERE KEPT OFF THE CREDITS FOR THAT LONG BECAUSE COLUMBIA KIND OF FELT LIKE THEY HAD DONE WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO FOR THESE GUYS AND IF THEY REOPENED THAT ISSUE, THEN POSSIBLY THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, ROYALTY OR OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT THEY COULD HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR.

>> Eric: WHEN YOU TALKED TO THESE GUYS, ALMOST SEEMS LIKE IT WAS A MYSTICAL, MAGICAL CONFLUENCE OF THE STARS THAT THIS HAPPENED.

>> IT ACTUALLY WAS ON ONE OF THE COLDEST NIGHTS OF THE YEAR, TOTAL MINNESOTA EVENING AND WHAT WE REALLY LIKE ABOUT OUR BOOK IS THOSE THINGS KIND OF GOT SHRANKED OFF WITH ANONYMOUS GARAGE BAND MUSICIANS WHEN TRUTHFULLY THEY WERE SOME OF THE BEST MUSICIANS IN MINNEAPOLIS WHICH MINUTES THEY WERE AS GOOD AS ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.

SO NOT ONLY DO WE TELL THE STORY OF THE SESSIONS, WE TELL EVERYBODY'S LIFE STORY BEFORE THE SESSIONS, THE SESSIONS AND WHAT HAPPENED AFTERWARDS.

>> Eric: GREG WEHOVER TOURS WITH JESSE VENTURA.

>> HE MIGHT THINK THE BIGGER STORY WAS HE WAS IN OLIVIA JOHN'S TRAVEL TOUR.

>> 4:00 WE'LL BE THERE TOMORROW.

>> Eric: AND I'M SIGN?

>> Cathy: I WOULD GUESS SON.

>> I WOULD GUESS SO.

>> Eric: FLAT ITEMS ONLY.

THANKS, FELLAS.

>> MINNESOTA STATE FAIR GROUND, BRING YOUR OWN CORN DOG.

>> Cathy: CUTE, GUYS.

THANK YOU.

♪ >> ERIC: IF YOU'RE A LOCAL MUSIC FAN AND A TWIN CITIES VIEWER, MAKE SURE TO STICK AROUND ON FRIDAY NIGHT RIGHT AFTER "ALMANAC" FOR THE SEASON PREMIERE OF "STAGE."

THIS YEAR, THE TWIN CITIES PBS MUSIC SERIES EXPLORES COLLABORATIONS BETWEEN WELL-KNOWN LOCAL MUSICIANS AND LESSER KNOWN ARTISTS THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW MORE ABOUT.

TONIGHT'S BROADCAST PREMIERE FEATURES RAPPER DESSA AND THE SOUTH AFRICAN AND MINNESOTA-BASED ENSEMBLE "29:11."

"BACKSTAGE," A DIGITAL COMPANION FOR EACH EPISODE WILL PREMIERE ON YOUTUBE ON TUESDAYS.

HERE'S A SNEAK PEAK OF NEXT TUESDAY'S "BACKSTAGE" EPISODE WITH DESSA AND 29:11.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT A RAPPER AND A SOUTH AFRICAN -- BUT I DON'T THINK IN PRACTICE IT'S THAT WEIRD.

♪♪ >> YEARS AGO, I WAS ON TOUR WITH THE MINNESOTA ORCHESTRA IN SOUTH AFRICA.

AND ON ONE OF THE STOPS, I GOT TO SEE THE SINGERS IN A REALLY HUMBLE ENVIRONMENT.

IT WAS LIKE A CONFERENCE ROOM.

♪♪ >> WATCHING THEM SING SET MY BLOOD PUMPING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION FOR A MOMENT.

AND THEY WERE PART OF A CHOIR I LATER FOUND OUT IS CALLED 239:11: OH, WOW.

SHE SEPTEMBER THIS ON HER PHONE.

[Laughter] >> WHAT?

>> THAT IS COOL.

♪♪ OUR CHORUS, THAT'S 11 DIFFERENT TRIBES, IN SOUTH AFRICA, THAT IS NOT HEARD OF.

WE DECIDED IF WE SPREAD THE MESSAGE OF RECONCILIATION, IT SHOULD BE ALL CULTURES IN SOUTH AFRICA.

♪♪ >> APARTHEID SIMPLY MEANS, IN ENGLISH, A TIME APART, SEGREGATED.

THAT'S WHAT THE GOVERNMENT DID BACK THEN.

TO PEOPLE OF COLOR, TO BLACK PEOPLE, AND SO MY DAD'S FAMILY WAS SPLIT UP.

HE NEVER SAW HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS BECAUSE HE WAS LIGHT-SKINNED.

AND HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS WAS DARK-SKINNED.

BLACK BROTHERS AND SISTERS, THEY SPLIT.

♪♪ >> OKAY, GET IT TOGETHER.

THEY SPLIT THEIR FAMILY UP, AND FOR THE FIRST TIME I MET MY UNCLES AND AUNTIES, AFTER APARTHEID, AT MY DAD'S FUNERAL.

THIS IS WHAT APARTHEID DID.

AND SO THROUGH OUR MUSIC WE JUST WANT TO SPREAD THIS MESSAGE OF UBUNTU.

UBUMTU IS A PHRASE WE USED BACK IN THE DAYS OF APARTHEID WHICH SIMPLY MEANS, "HUMANITY."

WE ARE ALL ONE PEOPLE AND THAT'S THE MESSAGE I WANT TO SPREAD.

♪ WE BOW BEFORE YOUR LOVE ♪♪ [Applause] ♪♪ >> THERE'S WAR IN ISRAEL.

IN WASHINGTON, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS SELF-DESTRUCTING.

IN GREATER MINNESOTA, FIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WERE SHOT THIS WEEK.

EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK, IT SEEMS, THE NEWS IS BAD AND GETTING WORSE.

AND IT WOULD BE EASY, WAY, WAY TOO EASY, TO DESPAIR.

ALLOW ME, THEN, TO OFFER A FEW BEAMS OF LIGHT.

WAR?

YES.

LOTS OF IT, IN ISRAEL AND UKRAINE AND OTHER PLACES WE SADLY DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT.

AND.

HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST NARGUS MAHAHMADEE WON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE LAST WEEK.

SHE WAS ONE OF 305 PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS NOMINATED.

THAT'S A LOT OF FOLKS WORKING FOR PEACE.

YES, POLITICAL DYSFUNCTION IS RAMPANT.

AND A RECENT STUDY BY THE MINNESOTA NONPROFIT MAJORITY IN THE MIDDLE SHOWED THAT ALMOST HALF THE BILLS INTRODUCED IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE LAST SESSION WERE SPONSORED BY AT LEAST ONE DFLER AND ONE REPUBLICAN.

I GET THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GETTING BILLS INTRODUCED AND GETTING THEM PASSED.

STILL, THERE'S AT LEAST A SPARK OF BIPARTISANSHIP IN ST. PAUL.

IS THERE TROUBLE IN GREATER MINNESOTA?

YES.

AND LAST NIGHT, I ATTENDED A COMMUNITY EVENT IN WILLMAR CELEBRATING EVERYTHING FROM JOB OPPORTUNITIES FOR TROUBLED YOUTH TO INNOVATIVE WAYS TO CARE FOR ELDERS.

THREE TEENAGERS PLAYED "OVER THE RAINBOW" ON UKELELES.

IT WAS FANTASTIC.

BAD NEWS IN THE WORLD?

YES.

GETTING WORSE?

WELL... AT THAT EVENT IN WILLMAR, POET AMANDA GORMAN WAS QUOTED: "FOR THERE IS ALWAYS LIGHT," SHE WROTE, "IF ONLY WE'RE BRAVE ENOUGH TO SEE IT.

IF ONLY WE'RE BRAVE ENOUGH TO BE IT."

SO MAYBE PART OF THAT IS UP TO US.

THINK ABOUT IT.

AND BE A BEAM OF LIGHT.

[Applause] >> CATHY: OCTOBER IS BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH AND TODAY IS SPECIFICALLY METASTATIC BREAST CANCER AWARENESS DAY.

AMANDA THEISEN WAS 39 YEARS OLD WHEN SHE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH STAGE 4 METASTATIC BREAST CANCER IN 2021.

SHE WAS ONLY 39 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME.

SHE'S HERE TO SHARE HER JOURNEY WITH US.

NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> Cathy: GOSH, AT THE AGE OF 39, YOU'RE TOO YOUNG TO HAVE REGULAR MAMMOGRAMS, SO I'M ASSUMING WHEN YOU FOUND A LUMP, THE CANCER THE ALREADY SPREAD?

>> YEAH, IT WAS SHOCKING, JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE I FOUND THE LUMP, I HAD GONE IN FOR A PHYSICAL AND THE DOCTOR HAD PERFORMED A BREAST EXAM AND NOTHING WAS DETECTED.

ABOUT THREE WEEKS LATER, I WAS DOING A SELF-EXAM, I HAD -- I USUALLY DO THOSE, I'M PRETTY DILIGENT ABOUT THOSE AND THAT'S WHEN I FOUND MY LUMP.

SO I WENT THIS RIGHT AWAY, BACK TO THE DOCTOR AND THEY SAID, YEP, THIS IS -- LET'S GET THIS CHECKED OUT.

SO HAD A MAMMOGRAM, ULTRASOUND AND A BIOPSY, AND IT WAS ON THE BIOPSY TABLE WHEN THAT DOCTOR SAID, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.

AND THAT WAS KIND OF WHEN IT CLICKED IN MY MIND THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING PRETTY SEVERE AND ABOUT 4 HOURS LATER, THAT'S WHEN I GOT THE CALL THAT IT WAS BREAST CANCER.

I WENT THROUGH A BUNCH OF OTHER TESTS, ONE OF THOSE WAS A PET CT WHICH LOOKS FOR CANCER IF IT HAS SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE BODY.

ON THAT TEST, THEY FOUND A SMALL SPOT ON A HIP BONE.

SO I WENT IN TO HAVE THAT BIOPSIED AND THAT ENDED UP TESTING POSITIVE FOR BREAST CANCER, SO THAT OFFICIALLY MADE ME STAGE 4 METASTATIC, AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, AT THE AGE OF 39.

>> Cathy: WHICH THAT NEWS HIT YOU LIKE A TON OF BRICKS.

>> IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT TO PROCESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE MESSAGE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES THAT COMES OUT, ESPECIALLY DURING BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH, IS IF YOU GET IT -- IF YOU CATCH IT EARLY, IT WILL BE AT AN EARLY STAGE.

WELL, IN THE CASE OF ME AND A LOT OF OTHER STAGE 4 PATIENTS WHO ARE MY AGE AND EVEN YOUNGER, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS HE CASE.

LIKE, I CAUGHT MINE EARLY AND WENT IN RIGHT AWAY.

IT WAS STILL AT STAGE FOUR BY THE TIME I GOT ALL THE RESULTS BACK.

>> Cathy: WE SHOULD SAY, THIS IS INCURABLE SO, REALLY, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE TREATMENTS TO EXTEND LIFE.

>> EXTENDS LIFE AND EXTEND QUALITY OF LIFE.

>> Eric: WHAT WAS YOUR FOCUS OR YOUR GOAL IN GOING PUBLIC?

>> I THINK TO BRING MORE AWARENESS TO IT.

I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE - REALIZE THAT IF THEY KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS DIED OF BREAST CANCER, IT IS MOST LIKELY METASTATIC BREAST CANCER BECAUSE ONCE THE CANCER SPREADS TO OTHER PARTS OF THE BODY, SUCH AS THE -- IN MY CASE, THE BONES OR IT COULD SPREAD TO OTHER ORGANS LIKE THE LUNGS OR THE LIVER OR THE BRAIN, THEN IT BECOMES INCURABLE, IT BECOMES A DEADLY DISEASE AND I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT IS REALLY SHOCKING WHEN I TELL PEOPLE THIS, THEY GET THAT SHOCKED LOOK ON THEIR GUYS, OUT OF ALL THE MONEY THAT'S RAISED FOR BREAST CANCER AWARENESS, ONLY 2 TO 5% OF THAT MONEY GOES TO STAGE 4 METASTATIC BREAST CANCER RESEARCH.

>> Cathy: THAT IS SURPRISING.

>> THAT'S 2 TO 5% FOR THE ONLY CANCER THAT IS DEADLY.

>> Eric: WOW.

>> Cathy: I WOULD THINK IF YOU SPENT MORE MONEY ON RESEARCH, WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE FOUND TO BE THE MECHANISMS TO MAKE THE ANCER SPREAD COULD BE HELPFUL IN OTHER CANCERS, PERHAPS.

>> I THINK SO.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY STAGE FOUR METASTATIC CANCER I THINK NEEDS MORE ATTENTION AND MORE RESEARCH.

IN MY CASE, I AM NOW TAKING AN ORAL DRUG THAT HAS -- WAS APPROVED BY THE F.D.A.

YOU KNOW, NOT TOO LONG AGO, MAYBE FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO, AND THAT HAS ACTUALLY HELPED ME EXTEND MY LIFE EXPECTANCY, HOPEFULLY, I'M ONLY TWO YEARS IN SO HOPEFULLY IT WILL GIVE ME A LONGER LIFESPAN.

AND A BETTER QUALITIES OF LIFE.

I CAN ALREADY SENSE THE BETTER QUALITIES OF LIFE NOW BECAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW -- I DON'T LOOK PSYCHIATRIST RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T KNOW THAT I HAVE DEADLY DISEASE IF WE JUST PASSED ON THE STREET ORR JUST WERE HAVING COFFEE OR SOMETHING, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS ALLOWING ME TO HAVE A BETTER QUALITIES OF LIFE.

I'M STILL ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THE THINGS I WAS ABLE TO DO BEFORE I HAD CANCER AND I THINK, AGAIN, THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE RESEARCH THAT HAS SO FAR HAPPENED BUT SO MUCH MORE NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO HELP MOOR PATIENTS LIKE ME.

>> Eric: YOU TALK ABOUT BEING NOT A SURVIVOR BUT A THRIVER.

>> UH-HUH.

>> Eric: WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT?

>> SO, IN THE CANCER COMMUNITIES, WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERED A CANCER SURVIVOR, IT REALLY MARKS AN END TO YOUR TREATMENT.

LIKE, YOU'RE DONE WITH CHEMO, YOU'RE DONE WITH RADIATION OR SURGERY, YOU GET TO RING THAT HE WILL ABOUT, YOU GET TO SAY "I AM DONE WITH MY CANCER TREATMENT."

BECAUSE I HAVE STAGE FOUR AND BECAUSE IT'S AN INCURABLE DISEASE, I WILL ALWAYS BE ON SOME SORT OF TREATMENT, I WILL NEVER GET TO RING THAT BELL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER I HAVE SO INSTEAD OF CALLING MYSELF A THRIVENNER, I DON'T GET TO CLAIM SURVIVORSHIP BUT WE GETS TOO CLAIM THAT WE'RE STILL ABLE TO THRIVE EACH WITH CANCER IN OUR SYSTEM.

>> Cathy: ARE YOU DOING OKAY?

YOU'RE WEARING PINK, I APPRECIATE THAT BUT THERE'S SO -- PINK IS PERVASIVE THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, RIGHT?

>> IT'S A LOT.

SO I AM WEARING PINK.

I HAPPEN TO LIKE THE SHIRT SO THAT'S -- I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT, YES, YOU KNOW, OCTOBER, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF PINK GOING ON.

YOU SEE IT IN YOUR Facebook FEEDS, YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA FEEDS, IN STORES, THERE ARE SO MANY PINK PRODUCTS AND THE RIBBON IS SLAPPED EVERYWHERE.

SO ONE THING I'VE REALLY COME TO TELL MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND ANYONE WHO WILL LISTEN IS MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE -- WHEN YOU'RE SPENDING MONEY OR THINKING ABOUT BREAST CANCER AWARENESS, MAKE SURE YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR DOLLARS TOWARDS MEANINGFUL RESEARCH.

NOT ALL PINK PRODUCTS AND RIBBON AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS ACTUALLY FUND MEANINGFUL RESEARCH.

A LOT OF THEM ARE USED AS MARKETING AND P.R.

TOOLS SO I WANT PEOPLE TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT, IF YOU SEE PINK PRODUCTS, YOU KNOW, ASK THE QUESTIONS.

IS THIS ACTUALLY FUNDING RESEARCH?

IS IT FUNDING BREAST CANCER AWARENESS RESEARCH?

WHAT KIND OF RESEARCH?

AND WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING BECAUSE NOT ALL BREAST CANCER ORGANIZATIONS ARE THE SAME.

ONE THAT I'M REALLY MASH THAT THE ABOUT IS METAVIBER, THEY PUT MONEY SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS STAGE 4, 100% OF THE ONEY GOES TO STAGE 4.

THAT CAN'T BE SAID OF ALL ORGANIZATIONS.

>> Cathy: AMANDA, WE WISH YOU, OF COURSE, ALL THE BEST.

>> Eric: ALL THE BEST.

>> Cathy: THANK YOU FOR TELLING YOUR STORY.

>> I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

♪♪ >> ERIC: STATE CAPITOL POLITICS CAN HAVE PLENTY OF DRAMA, AS LOCAL THEATER PRODUCERS DISCOVERED WHEN THEY STAGED A PLAY AT THE CAPITOL.

NOW THE SAME PEOPLE ARE BACK WITH A PODCAST THAT WILL KICK OFF AT AN EVENT AT THE MINNESOTA HUMANITIES CENTER ON THURSDAY.

POLITICAL REPORTER MARY LAHAMMER TAKES US INSIDE THE PRODUCTION THAT ATTEMPTS TO GO BEHIND THE SCENES AT THE CAPITOL.

♪♪ >> Mary: THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE IS HOME TO SO MANY RICH STORIES.

FIRST, THIS PLAY.

♪ ELCOME TO THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE ♪ >> Mary: NOW THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE PLAY HAVE A PODCAST.

"OUR OUSE," INTENT ON PEELING BACK THE CURTAIN TO HOW CHANGE HAPPENS AT THE CAPITOL.

>> I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE GOTTEN YOURSELF INTO.

>> WONDERFUL.

>> WE'RE NOT HERE TO TRICK YOU INTO SOMETHING SOMETHING PUBLICLY.

>> I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE CONVERSATION, I FEEL LIKE WHERE I AM IN MY OWN POLITICAL JOURNEY.

>> Mary: THIS FINAL EPISODE OF THE SEASON FEATURES A PERSON WE FIRST FOUND IN THE CAPITOL PATHWAYS PROGRAM YEARS AGO, WHO WENT ON TO RUN FOR OFFICE AND BECOME AN IMPORTANT PLAYER IN PUBLIC POLICY AND STATE, FEDERAL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AFTER DELIVERING HER COMMENCEMENT ADDRESS.

>> IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE FOR YOU, LET THEM.

>> WHAT GOT YOU INTERESTED IN POLITICS AND ADVOCACY?

>> Mary: CONFESSING SHE BUNK HE WOULD HER FIRST JOB INTERVIEW IN PUBLIC POLICY WORK, SUBJECTS IN THE PODCAST SEEMED TO DROP THE FACADE THE CAPITOL IS FAMOUS FOR, MAYBE THE GOLDEN MORE HOVERING NEARBY.

>> MAKING A PLAY IS INCREDIBLY TIME-CONSUMING AND SUSPENSIONIVE SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS IN WHICH TO SHARE THE STORIES IN MORE PEOPLE AND MORE WAYS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO AMAZING THE STORIES THAT WE HEAR.

A PODCAST MAKES SENSE ECAUSE GETTING INTO THE INFLUENCE OF HOW THE CAPITOL REALLY WORKS REQUIRES SITTING DOWN AND CONCENTRATING ON ALL THE DETAILS THAT PEOPLE PROVIDE.

>> Mary: HOW DIFFERENT IS A PODCAST FROM A PLAY?

>> OH, IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

I'M JUST HEARING PEOPLE SAY, OH, I HAD NO IDEA HOW MUCH SHOWING UP COULD AFFECT HOW MY LIFE IS IMPACTED BY GOVERNMENT.

>> Mary: THEY DEAL WITH ISSUES OF ACCESS AND EQUITY IN THE PLAY AND PODCAST.

>> NO JUSTICE!!

>> Mary: WHEN WE LAST TALKED TO THE PRODUCERS FIVE YEARS AGO, THAT WAS BEFORE A PANDEMIC, RACIAL RECKONING AND CHANGE AT THE CAPITOL, SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, THIS PODCAST COMES AT A VERY DIFFERENT TIME THAN THE PLAY.

>> DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGE, RIGHT?

THERE'S MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN WHO ARE IN THE LEGISLATURE THAN EVER BEFORE, AND REPRESENTATION MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.

SO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE KIND OF IN THE PLAY IN TERMS OF ACCESS AND IN TERMS OF EQUITY ARE ACTUALLY IN SOME WAYS BEING ADDRESSED.

BUT THEN THERE IS A LOT THAT STAYS THE SAME BECAUSE IT IS -- THERE IS A LOT OF ENTRENCHED CULTURE HERE.

>> IT'S CHANGED IN TERMS OF WHO'S HERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE GET INTO IN THE PODCAST EPISODES IS TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NEWLY HERE ABOUT HOW DIFFERENT IT IS THAN WHAT THEY WERE TAUGHT IT WOULD BE.

BECAUSE YOU CAN BE IN THE ROOM BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU KNOW THE UNSPOKEN RULES OF CULTURE.

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

>> Mary: WANDERLUST PRODUCTIONS IS A THEATER-SPACED COMPANY THAT ATTEMPTS TO TELL STORIES IN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE OFTEN IGNORED OR MISUNDERSTOOD.

>> WE ACTUALLY TRY NOT TO MAKE IT PARTISAN SHIPP, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT HOW THE GOVERNMENT WORKS.

THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WE TALK TO ARE NON-PARTISAN STAFF.

WHY IS IT LIBERAL?

HE SAID BECAUSE IT'S ART.

AND THEY WERE LIKE, SO THERE ARE CERTAIN BIASES AND ASSUMPTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, EVEN THOUGH WE VERY MUCH TRY TO MAKE IT AS NEUTRAL AS WE CAN.

>> Mary: IS ART LIBERAL?

IS IT ONLY FOR LIBERALS?

>> WOW, THAT'S A REALLY TOUGH QUESTION.

I THINK THERE IS A BIAS AMONG SOME FOLKS THAT ASSUMES THAT ART IS EXCLUSIVELY ELITE FOR THE EDUCATED, FOR RADICALS.

OUR ART DEFINITELY IS NOT.

OUR ART IS BASED ON STORIES GATHERED FROM PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF LIFE EXPERIENCE, SO WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO BREAK IT DOWN THOSE BIASES AND STEREOTYPES.

I DON'T THINK ART IS INHERENTLY LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE UNLESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LIBERALISM OF CURIOSITY.

>> Mary: IN THE EN, THEY SEE THEMSELVES ENGAGING ND EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ABOUT POLITICS AND POLICY THROUGH ART.

>> HOW MUCH YOU CAN DO BEYOND VOTING, HOW MUCH UMM COME SEE HOW PUBLICLY AVAILABLE IT IS, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES TO SERVE THE INTERESTS OF MINNESOTANS.

I THINK IT HAS BEEN A WILD FIVE YEARS IN WHICH I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ASKING THEMSELVES, WHAT MIGHT THEY DO TO BE MORE POLITICALLY INVOLVED.

WHAT MIGHT THEY DO TO AFFECT CHANGE LOCALLY, AND IT FEELS LIKE FOR SOME PEOPLE THE PODCAST ANSWERS THAT QUESTION, IT SAYS YOU CAN DO A LOT MORE THAN VOTE, YOU AN DO A LOT MORE THAN WATCH TV OR SOCIAL MEDIA AND GET MAD.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY SHOW UP.

>> WHAT WE WHAT WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE IS I DIDN'T KNOW HOW COMPLICATED IT WAS BUT NOW I KNOW HOW COMPLICATED IT WAS, I FEEL A LITTLE MORE ENGAGED IN IT.

♪♪ >> CATHY: ANOTHER BUSY POLITICAL WEEK IN WASHINGTONM D.C., AND BACK HERE IN MINNESOTA SO LET'S DIVE RIGHT IN WITH THIS WEEK'S VERSION OF OUR POLITICAL PANEL.

REPUBLICANS ON THE COUCH TONIGHT, FRITZ KNAAK IS A FORMER STATE SENATOR AND PRACTICING ATTORNEY.

JEN DEJOURNETT IS A POLITICAL OPERATIVE AND VETERAN OF CAMPAIGNS.

DEMOCRATS ON THE COUCH TONIGHT, ABOU AMARA, FORMER LEGISLATIVE STAFFER, AND ALSO AN ATTORNEY.

AND WE WELCOME BACK FORMER STATE SENATOR EMBER REICHGOTT JUNGE.

WHO'S ALSO AN ATTORNEY.

GOOD TO SIGH EVERYBODY HERE.

JEN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE U.S. HOUSE SPEAKERSHIP CHAOTIC MISS.

JIM JORDAN EVIDENTLY SEVERED THE NOMINATION, IS HE GOING TO USE THE WEEKEND TO WIN OVER VOTES?

>> YEAH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE.

THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE ALL GOING TO WORK TOGETHER, HOW THE NEW RULES ARE GOING TO GO, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DECIDE.

I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS THINGS THAT ARE ON THE PLATE THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH AND I HOPE THAT HE SPENDS HIS TIME, LIKE, HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

IF NOT, WELL, THEN, THE NEXT PERSON UP ONLINE HAS TO, LIKE, START THAT PROCESS, TOO, SO I HOPE THEY ALL HAVE COOLER HEADS, PICK SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO LEADS AND LET'S GO.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME TO WASTE.

>> Eric: DOES THIS HAVE LASTING POLITICAL SIGNIFICANCE FOR 2024 OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WILL E GONE WITH THE WIND WHEN THE CYCLE GETS GOING?

>> I WISH.

I WISH.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT WILL BE CHANNELING REGARDLESS AND THEY KNOW IT.

I THINK THE SOONER THEY GETS THROUGH THIS PROBLEM THE BETTER, AS FAR AS REPUBLICANS ARE CONCERNED.

YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE 8 PEOPLE THAT ARE INTRACTABLE, THEY'VE KIND OF PAINTED THEMSELVES INTO A CORNER, I DON'T KNOW HAT THEY CAN GIVE EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE GOT A SPEAKER POTENTIALLY THAT WOULD BE MORE IN THEIR CORNER THAN ANYBODY ELSE'S, IT'S OING TO BE A TOUGH THING FOR THEM TO GET TOO.

>> JIM JORDAN WILL NOT BE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.

HE IS A FACTIONABLE EXTREME CANDIDATE IN AN EXTREME CAUCUS IN AN EXTREME HOUSE.

THERE'S NO WAY HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE VOTES IN MY OPINION, SO I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOMEBODY ELSE STANDS UP, PEOPLE WE HAVEN'T HEARD OF SO I THINK THIS IS A QUESTION FOR VOTERS GOING INTO THE NEXT ELECTION, HOW CAN REPUBLICANS GOVERN IF THEY CAN'T GOVERN THEIR OWN CAUCUS?

>> Cathy: SENATOR.

>> JIM JORDAN IS A DISRUPTER SO, NO, I DON'T THINK HE CAN MAKE IT.

THE LAST THREE REPUBLICAN SPEAKERS HAVE TRIED TO GOVERN AND THEY HAVE BEEN FORCED OUT.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL IN THAT CONFERENCE THAT CAN GET 217 VOTES, AND I'M HEARING MORE REPUBLICANS -- REPUBLICAN LEADERS SAYING, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH DEMOCRATS, AND IF THEY DO THAT, THEY CAN BRING DEMOCRATS TO HE TABLE.

BUT IF WE DON'T DO THAT, E'VE GOT ALL THESE SERIOUS ISSUES OUT THERE THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AND THE TIME IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.

>> Jearlyn: WHY ARE WE NOT HEARING MUCH FROM TOM EMMER?

HE'S NUMBER 3 RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE TO UNDERSTAND THAT HE WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT BEING MAJORITY LEADER BUT HE'S FAIRLY QUIET RIGHT NOW.

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'M GLAD THAT HE'S NOT OUT RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, A SIGN OF A THOUGHTFUL LEADER IS SOMEBODY WHO SITS BACK AND TAKES IT IN AND HAS THOSE CONVERSATIONS BUT, TO BE HONEST, TOM EMMER IS GOOD OR MINNESOTA.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE OUR HOMETOWN GUY EVEN IN PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND AT THE TABLE REGARDLESS OF WHAT CHAIR IT IS, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT HE'S GOING TO WORK TO BENEFIT ALL OF MINNESOTA AND WORK REALLY HARD FOR ALL OF US.

>> Cathy: COULD HE -- I WAS TALKING TO DEAN PHILLIPS, CONGRESSMAN PHILLIPS EARLIER THIS WEEK ON MPR, AND CONGRESSMAN PHILLIPS FLOATED, CONGRESSMAN EMMER AS A POSSIBLE HOUSE SPEAKER CANDIDATE?

>> I THINK HE'S A VIABLE CANDIDATE AND HE TOOK A LESSON FROM PAUL RYAN.

IF YOU REMEMBER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BEFORE PAUL RYAN BECAME SPEAKER, HE SAID I DON'T WANT THE JOB, AND THAT ALLOWED HIM TO GET LEVERAGE IN NEGOTIATIONS OVER THE RULES AND OVER OTHER MEASURES INSIDE OF THE HOUSE SO WHOEVER THESE GOING TO BE, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED SOME LEVERAGE TO CHANGE THOSE RULINGS BECAUSE WHAT YOU DON'T WANTS IS TO HAVE ONE REPUBLICAN BE ABLE TO KNOCK YOU OUT OF THE SPEAKERSHIP AND SO I THINK HE FARTHER HE DRAGS OUT AND SAYS NO, NO, NO, AS OTHER CANDIDATES FALL, IT MIGHT POSITION HIM ELL NOT JUST TO WIN BUT TO CHANGES THE RULINGS.

>> YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND THIS WHOLE THING IS LIKE A SQUARE DANCE ON VERY THIN ICE AND THE SMART DANCER IS GOING TO BE THE ONE SITTING -- THE WALLFLOWER WHO'S GETTING AWAY FROM THE CENTER AND THAT'S THE GAME THAT HE'S PLAYING, I GET IT, AND HE'S VERY SKILLED AT IT, THAT'S HOW HE GOT WHERE HE IS, AND, YOU KNOW, PHILLIPS IS A FELLOW MINNESOTAN, IT'S KIND OF NICE TO THINK THAT A GOOD MINNESOTA-NICE PERSON COULD SIGNED OF SOOT THE PROBLEMS SOOTHE THE PROBLEMS IN THAT CAUCUS.

IT'S NOT TOO LIKELY, TOM IS SKILLED BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING HE SHOULDN'T DO.

>> HE LAST -- WELL, GO AHEAD.

>> Eric: IF DEAN PHILLIPS DOESN'T RUN FOR HIS SEAT, RON HARRIS IS IN THERE FOR A PRIMARY, STEVE SIMON SAID HE WOULD BE INTERESTED, KELLY MORRISON, STATE SENATOR.

HOW LONG WOULD THE LINE BE FOR A PRIMARY OR ENDORSEMENT FIGHT IF PHILLIPS IS NOT IN THE EQUATION?

>> IF E'S NOT IN THE EQUATION OR -- >> Eric: IF HE RUNS FOR PRESIDENTS OR -- >> ABSOLUTELY, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT RACE BECAUSE IT'S VERY MUCH A PURPLE DISTRICT AND THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD CANDIDATES BUT I WANT TO SAY ONE THING ABOUT TOM EMMER AND THAT IS THIS, HE CAN'T WIN BECAUSE HE DIDN'T SUPPORT -- RUMP IS WORKING AGAINST HIM AND HE VOTED TO CERTIFY THE LECTION.

>> YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, I HOPE THE DEMOCRATS GETS INTO A BIG FIGHT ABOUT CD3 BECAUSE I THINK IF PHILLIPS DECIDES TO MOVE ON, THAT SEAT CAN E VIABLE, THERE IS A PATH THERE.

I KNOW IT SOUNDS RIDICULOUS BUT IT IS AS SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THAT DISTRICT VERY, VERY WELL.

BUT TO BE HONEST, I THINK PHILLIPS IS GOING TO RUN AGAIN AND I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD TOWN DOWN THE RECEIPT RICK AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS.

>> Cathy, O.AGAIN, TALKED TO HIM EARLIER IN THE WEEK AND HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO ANNOUNCE.

WHY IS HE DOING THIS?

I MIGHT RUN, I MIGHT NOT RUN.

WHAT'S GOING ON?

>> SO FOR MANY IT'S CONFUSING.

I THINK AS SOMEONE WHO HE KNOWS HIM, I THINK HE SINCERELY BELIEFS, IT'S A SINGE CERTAINLY HELD BELIEF AND SOMEONE TAKING ON THAT MUCH FLACK IN THE PARTIES WOULD NOT A DO SO UNLESS THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL WINNING AN ELECTION AND HE THINKS HE'S A PART OF HELPING THE ELECTION.

>> Eric: WHILE THE CAMERA IS ON YOU, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS.

CITY COUNCIL, IS THE THING NOW WHO'S FOR TERRORISM AND WHO'S NOT?

>> WE'VE GOT THE LEFT AND THE PEOPLE ON THE FAR LEFT AND THE PEOPLE DOWN THE STREET ON THE LEFT.

IT'S FIGHTING AMONG FAMILY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WON'T RADICALLY CHANGE THINGS, THERE ARE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS PARTICULARLY IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE BUT I'M NOT CONCERNED IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS IF YOU LOOK AT WHO CONTROLS THE CITY, IT'S OVERWHELMINGLY THE SCENTS POSITION.

>> Eric: YOU'RE KIND OF A MODERATE DEMOCRAT, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF IS THIS?

>> WE'RE BOTH FROM MINNEAPOLIS BUT WHAT I MAKE OF THIS IS THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS COULD VERY MUCH EXPERIENCE A MAJOR SHIFT IN THIS COMING ELECTION.

THERE IS A GROUP THAT'S WORKING TO SHIFT THE MAJORITY TO THE LEFT, MUCH MORE THAN IT IS NOW.

THEY WOULD NOT BE ALIGNED WITH MAYOR FREY'S AGENDA SO THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER GROUP THAT IS TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE BALANCE IN MINNEAPOLIS, KEEPING PEOPLE IN THE VEIN OF LISA GOODMAN WHO IS STEPPING DOWN.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR ELECTION IN MINNEAPOLIS AS FAR AS ITS FUTURE.

ARE WE GOING TO GO WAY TO THE LEFT OR ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE BALANCE?

>> IN MANY WAYS, IT WILL BE A RELITIGATION OF WHAT HAPPENED IN 2021, PUBLIC SAFETY IS GOING TO BE FRONTS AND CENTER AND I THINK WHEN YOU POLL THAT ISSUE, OVERWHELMINGLY THE PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA ARE GOING TO LEAN TOWARDS WHAT WE CALL THE FRY COALITION.

>> WELL, YOU HOPE BUT MINNEAPOLIS IS MINNEAPOLIS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN IT STOP GOING LEFTWARD.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> Eric: SCHOOL BOARDS ELECTIONS COMING UP, YOU HAVE THE MINNESOTA PARENTS ALLIANCE ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, MINNESOTA SCHOOL BOARD INTEGRITY PROJECT ON THE LIBERAL SIDE.

HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT?

>> WHAT I'VE SEEN IS A RESURGENCE OF THE PEOPLE ON THE GRASS ROOTS LEVEL WANTING TO GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS AND WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON FOR THEIR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION OR IN THEIR CITY OR EVEN BOND QUESTIONS.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S SURPRISING IS MOST PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE OF MINNESOTA DON'T REALIZE THAT THEY EVEN HAVE AN ELECTION ON THE BALLOT THIS YEAR WHICH IS AWFUL, RIGHT?

WE WANT PEOPLE TO VOTE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT SO I THINK ALL THOSE GROUPS WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT, ONE, PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT THERE IS ELECTIONS, NUMBER TWO, GROUPS LIKE THE ONES I'M AFFILIATED WITH, ALSO RAISING THE AWARENESS, CHECK YOUR BALLOT, GO TO MNVOTES.ORG, CHECK TO SEE IF YOU HAVE AN ELECTION.

I DIDN'T REALIZE I HAD A BOND QUESTION ON MY BALLOTS UNTIL I WAS DOING A TRAINING AS I CROSS THE STATE, TEACHING PEOPLE JUST BASIC SKILLS ABOUT ELECTIONS AND I LOOKED IT UP AND I WENT, HEY, I HAVE A BOND QUESTION AND THERE HAD BEEN NO FEAR GIVEN.

THAT'S REALLY POOR.

>> THE KICKER HERE IS OUTSIDE FUNDING, THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT TO WATCH FOR.

THERE IS A LOT OF THAT -- >> Eric: YOU PUT THOUSANDS OF MILES ON YOUR CAR.

>> I PUT THOUSANDS OF MILES ON MY CAR.

>> Cathy: THE BELL IS RINGING.

YOU'RE GOING.

♪♪ >> BACK IN THE EARLY '90s, IT IS CHURCH WAS SAYING WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT, WE'VE GOT ALL THE PROCEDURES IN PLACE AND THEN WHEN THE BOSTON GLOBE SCANDAL BROCK IN 2002, AND THIS BECAME A NATIONAL PROBLEM, THE CHURCH SAID, REMEMBER, WE'RE LREADY HEADS OF THE GAME, WE'VE GOT IT FIGURED OUT AND I THINK PEOPLE BELIEVED THAT FOR A LONG TIME.

>> ERIC: IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS SINCE THE MINNESOTA PUBLIC RADIO SERIES "BETRAYED BY SILENCE," THE MONTHS-LONG INVESTIGATION, LED TO A HISTORIC BANKRUPTCY SETTLEMENT AND THE LOCAL ARCHDIOCESE PAYING SURVIVORS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

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IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THE PRODUCERS HAVE MADE ME PRETEND TO BE THE MYSTERY PERSON.

WE'LL SEE HOW I DO.

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