>> "ALMANAC" IS A PRODUCTION OF TWIN CITIES PBS FOR THE STATIONS OF MINNESOTA PUBLIC TELEVISION ASSOCIATION.

>> CATHY: COMING UP ON TONIGHT'S SHOW, WE'LL CHECK IN WITH A MEMBER OF MINNESOTA'S PALESTINIAN COMMUNITY ABOUT THE ONGOING WAR BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS.

PAUL DOUGLAS IS HERE WITH A FALL WEATHER FORECAST.

OUR POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSORS WILL HELP SORT OUT THE HISTORIC STALEMATE IN CONGRESS.

AND MARY LAHAMMER CAUGHT UP WITH A FAMILIAR FACE IN A NEW SPACE.

>> Mary: A FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER IS TRADING THE STATE CAPITOL FOR A SKYSCRAPER, REPRESENTING BIG BUSINESSES.

WE'LL CATCH UP WITH KURT ZELLERS.

>> ALL.

MY DEMOCRAT FRIENDS AND THEN A LOT OF REPUBLICANS IN THE ROOM SAID THIS IS GREAT.

WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT HARDER STAND.

>> Mary: THAT'S COMING UP ON "ALMANAC."

♪♪ E ♪♪ >> "ALMANAC" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY MEMBERS OF THIS PUBLIC TELEVISION STATION.

SUPPORT IS ALSO PROVIDED BY... GREAT RIVER ENERGY: PROVIDING WHOLESALE POWER TO 27 MINNESOTA ELECTRIC COOPERATIVES.

DELTA DENTAL OF MINNESOTA FOUNDATION: IMPROVING ORAL HEALTH WHILE ADVANCING SOCIAL EQUITIES.

DELTADENTALMN.ORG/TPT.

AND EDUCATION MINNESOTA: THE VOICE FOR PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS AND STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

MORE AT EDUCATIONMINNESOTA.ORG.

>> CATHY: COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR, PAUL DOUGLAS HAS A WINTER WEATHER FORECAST FOR US.

"PIONEER PRESS" REPORTER FRED MELO IS HERE TO PREVIEW ST. PAUL CITY COUNCIL RACES.

PATTY WETTERLING SHARES HER STORY OF HOPE OUT OF UNSPEAKABLE TRAGEDY IN "DEAR JACOB," A MEMOIR PUBLISHED EARLIER THIS WEEK.

>> ERIC: BUT WE START TONIGHT WITH THE INTERNATIONAL STORY THAT CONTINUES TO REVERBERATE ACROSS THE U.S. AND HERE IN MINNESOTA, THE WAR BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS, WHICH BEGAN NEARLY TWO WEEKS AGO WITH THE HAMAS TERROR ATTACK ON ISRAEL FOLLOWED BY ISRAEL'S DECLARATION OF WAR.

THOUSANDS ARE DEAD, INJURED, OR MISSING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER BETWEEN ISRAEL AND GAZA.

INTERNATIONAL AID HAS BEEN STALLED AT THE BORDER BETWEEN EGYPT AND GAZA.

HERE IN MINNESOTA, THE LOCAL CHAPTER OF AMERICAN MUSLIMS FOR PALESTINE AND CAIR MINNESOTA HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR AN IMMEDIATE CEASEFIRE AT RALLIES AND PROTESTS AT THE STATE CAPITOL AND CONGRESSIONAL OFFICES.

JOINING US, MARIAM EL-KHATIB, AN ADVISOR AT THE LOCAL BRANCH OF AMERICAN MUSLIMS FOR PALESTINE WHO HAS BEEN AT SEVERAL OF THE PROTESTS.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

I SUPPOSE THE CEASEFIRE WOULD BE JUST A FIRST STEP.

IS THAT KIND OF THE IDEA?

>> AT THIS POINT, IT'S THE BARE MINIMUM WE'RE ASKING FOR.

I MEAN, WE UST WANT TO STOP SEEING PEOPLE DIE.

WE WANT TO STOP SEEING IMAGES OF KIDS BEING PULLED FROM THE RUB ALE.

PARENTS BURYING THEIR OWN CHILDREN.

SO YES, RIGHT NOW OUR FOCUS, OUR FIRST FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS TO JUST CALL FOR A CEASEFIRE.

>> Cathy: WE SHOULD PROBABLY GIVE FOLKS SOME CONTEXT.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PALESTINIAN FAMILIES IN MINNESOTA.

IN FACT, I KNOW, THERE WAS THIS NEW NEWS THAT THERE WAS A FAMILY IN WOODBURY WHO'S HAD 30 MEMBER AS OF THEIR FAMILY KILLED IN GAZA.

>> EAH, FAMILY FRIEND ACTUALLY.

SO A FRIEND, SHE'S LOST 30 PEOPLE FROM ER FAMILY IN ONE ATTACK AGAINST THEIR FAMILY.

SO ALL OF HER SIBLINGS, ALL THEIR SPOUSES, ALL THEIR CHILDREN WERE KILLED YESTERDAY.

THE ONLY SURVIVING -- HER MOTHER, AND ONE NEPHEW HAS SURVIVED.

IT'S JUST BEEN ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATING.

AT THIS POINT, EVERY PALESTINIAN KNOWS SOMEONE, HAS EITHER BEEN DIRECTLY IMPACTED OR KNOWS SOMEONE.

JUST LAST WEEK, MY NEIGHBOR ALSO LOST FIVE FAMILY MEMBERS.

I HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEIR FAMILY FOR A COUPLE DAYS.

I HAVE ANOTHER FRIEND WHO THEIR FAMILY WAS IN THE HOSPITAL THAT GOT ATTACKED.

SO AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, OUR GROUP CHATS, I'M IN A LOT OF GROUPS, SOCIAL GROUPS, WORK GROUPS AND.

AT THIS POINT.

E FEW HOURS, THERE'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF NEW FAMILY THAT'S BEEN ATTACKED AND KILLED AND IT'S JUST EEN REALLY HEAVY TO BEAR THAT NEWS.

>> Eric: NO ROUP IS MONOLITHIC.

I WONDER IF THIS HAS UNIFIED PALESTINIANS.

>> IT'S UNIFIED, PALESTINIANS, ARABS, MUSLIMS, NON-MUSLIMS, CIZ EVERYONES.

JUST YESTERDAY THE THIRD OLDEST IN THE CHURCH IN THE WORLD WAS ATTACKED.

AND SO THIS IS NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, A PALESTINIAN, MUSLIM, ARAB ISSUE.

EVEN HERE LOCALLY, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH JEWISH GROUPS, JERCHISH GROUPS FOR PEACE.

SO AT THE PROTESTS, I THINK THERE'S MORE NON-PALESTINIANS THAN PALESTINIANS.

SO THE SUPPORT FOR THE PALESTINIAN CAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE OUTCRY AT THE AGGRESSION THAT'S HAPPENING WHILE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THE NEWS DEFINITELY TRANSCENDED, YOU KNOW, ALL BORDERS, ALL BOUNDARIES, ALL IDENTITIES AND I THINK IT'S AT THIS POINT IT'S -- YOU JUST HAVE TO BE HUMAN REALLY TO WANT TO SEE THE VIOLENCE END.

>> Cathy: THIS IS OBVIOUSLY VERY DIFFICULT TIME, AN EMOTIONAL TIME ON ALL SIDES, BUD I'M WONDERING, ESPECIALLY, DO YOU FEEL ISOLATED IN THIS TIME?

>> YOU KNOW, ONE THING WE'VE BEEN SAYING IS PALESTINIANS ARE BEING KILLED TWICE.

ONCE BY ISRAEL AND ANOTHER TIME IN THE MEDIA.

YOU KNOW, THE RHETORIC THAT'S COME OUT HAS BEEN, FOR ME, ACTUALLY PERSONALLY HARDIER THAN SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT WE'RE SEEING.

WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAINSTREAM MEDIA, WHEN YOU HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS, WHEN YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES COMING OUT AND NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING VOCAL IN HOLDING ISRAEL ACCOUNTABLE, BUT ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING AND STANDING WITH THEM, IN THE VIOLENCE, IT'S JUST BEEN REALLY, REALLY HARD.

SO IN THAT SENSE, IT'S BEEN ISOLATING AS A PALESTINIAN.

YOU KNOW, ISRAEL DEFENSE MINISTER REFERRED TO PALESTINIANS AS HUMAN ANIMALS.

AND PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU TWEETED THAT THIS IS A BATTLE OF CHILDREN OF LIGHT AND CHILDREN OF DARKNESS, REFERRING TO PALESTINIAN PEOPLE AS CHILDREN OF DARKNESS.

SO THE LEVEL OF DEHUMANIZATION HAS BEEN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO HANDLE AND ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING THINGS I THINK AND WE'VE SEEN IT TO A LEVEL THAT I THINK WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.

>> Eric: YOU'VE PROTESTED AT CONGRESSIONAL OFFICES HERE IN THE TWIN CITIES.

HAVE YOU GOTTEN SOME REACTION FROM MEMBERS OF THE MINNESOTA DELEGATION?

>> YES, SO WE'VE BEEN -- I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN MOBILIZING SINCE -- I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN -- WITH THE AMERICAN ESPONSE, WE'RE ALWAYS IN CONTACT WITH A LOT OF OUR CONGRESSIONAL OFFICES.

BUT SINCE THE EVENTS OF OCTOBER 7TH, WE'VE BEEN FLOODING THE OFFICES WITH PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS.

, YOU KNOW, DEMAND HEAG THAT THEY SPEAK UP.

DEMANDING THEY SIGN ONTO A CEASEFIRE.

AS OF NOW, I BELIEVE ONLY REPRESENTATIVE ILHAN AND REPRESENTATIVE MCCOLLUM HAVE SIGNED ONTO THE CEASEFIRE.

OTHER OFFICES WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, THEY HAVE NOT SIGNED ON WITH.

JUST BE A HUMAN AND CALL FOR A CEASEFIRE SO THAT WE CAN STOP SEEING CHILDREN BE KILLED.

>> Cathy: 'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

WE HAD A PERSON FROM THE JEWISH COMMUNITY HERE LAST WEEK AND I ASKED HIM THIS QUESTION, DO YOU FEAR FOR YOUR SAFETY, AND THE ANSWER WAS YES.

GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED IN CHICAGO ON TO THAT LITTLE BOY, DO THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE FEAR FOR THEIR SAFETY IN THIS COUNTRY?

>> EVIDENCE Q.R.

CODE, I MEAN, IDENTIFICATION WITH HE RHETORIC THAT WE'RE HEARING, LIKE SIDE, WHEN PALESTINIANS ARE BEING REFERRED TO AS ANIMALS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE DESTRUCTION OF A PEOPLE.

THIS IS BEING CALLED ON BY THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND ESKTSDIVELY BEING SUPPORTED BY THE YOU'D GOVERNMENT, HOW DO PEOPLE SEE ME NOW.

IF THEY'RE WATCHING THE NEWS AND THIS IS HOW THEY'RE SEEING PALESTINIANS REPRESENTED AS MAN ALES AND, YOU KNOW, AS VIOLENT PEOPLE, LIKE WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO THINK ABOUT PEOPLE.

YOU NOW, THEIR PALESTINIAN NEIGHBOR OR COWORKER?

AND WHEN THIS RHETORIC FIRST BEGAN, PEOPLE STARTED COMPARING IT TO THE POST-9/11 ERA AND IT QUICKLY TURNED FROM SPECULATION TO REALITY WHEN THAT SIX-YEAR-OLD BOY WAS STABBED OVER 20 TIMES.

AND THE PERSON WHO STABBED HIM VERY EXPLICITLY SAID I DID IT BECAUSE I HATE HUSBAND LIMBS, AND HE HAD BEEN LISTENING TO THE NEWS.

I DON'T LIKE TO BE DRIVEN BY FEAR BUT IT'S A LEALT OF REALITY THAT NOW WE HAVE O UNAWARE OF OF, BE: OF.

>> THANK YOU IN FOR COMING OVER.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

♪♪ >> CATHY: WE TURN OUR ATTENTION NOW TO POLITICS CLOSER TO HOME.

EARLIER THIS WEEK, THE ST. PAUL CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO OVERHAUL ZONING CODES IN THE CITY TO ALLOW MORE HOUSING DENSITY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

FRED MELO COVERS ST. PAUL CITY POLITICS FOR THE "PIONEER PRESS."

HE'S BEEN COVERING THE STORY AND THE UPCOMING CITY COUNCIL ELECTIONS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WEEKS.WEEKS.

YOU'RE A BUSY GUY.

WHEN I READ THE ARTICLE, I THOUGHT, OKAY, ZONING CHANGES, YAWN.

BUT IT IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL.

>> THIS IS THE BIGGEST CHANGE SINCE 18970 TO REALLY THE LAYOUT OF THE CITY.

IN 1975 FOR LOTS OF DIFFERENT RESIDENTS, CITY HALL STAID, HEY, ZONING'S GOING TO REALLY CATER TO SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.

YOU CAN ONLY BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ON THESE STREETS.

IT WAS MORE THAN HALF THE CITY.

SO FOR THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 40, 50 YEARS, WE'VE REALLY LOOKED AT A ZONING CODE WHERE YOU HAVE TO BEG CITY HALL FOR A VARIANCE, FOR AN EXEMPTION, FOR SOME KIND OF A SPECIAL PERMISSION IF YOU JUST WANT TO BUILD A DU FLEX.

THIS LIFTS ALL THAT.

THERE'S NO STREET IN THE CITY THAT IS JUST ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

IT MAY NOT BE ALL THAT EASY TO BUILD A DUE DPLERCHL DUE TO ALL THE OTHER RULES, IF THE LOTS BIG ENOUGH, TRIPLEXES, SPHOWR-FLEXES.

>> Cathy: DOESN'T THIS MEAN A LOT OF TEAR-DOWNS POTENTIALLY >> THAT'S THE FEAR.

CHRIS TOLBERT, HE SAID, LOOK, IN MAC-GROVELAND, HIGHLAND PARK, WE HAVE THESE HOUSES THAT WERE 800 SQUARE FEET, 1200 SQUARE FEET, THE STARTER HOMES IN A REALLY NICE AREA.

- AND THOSE HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN BY YEARS SOMETIMES BY OUT OF STATE INVESTORS WHO COME IN, SAY, OH, THAT'S THE CHEAPEST HOUSE ON THE BLOCK, I'LL TEAR IT DOWN AND BUILD OMETHING THAT'S BIGGER AND CAN SELL FOR A LOT OF MONEY.

SO I ON'T WANT TO SEE MORE OF THAT, SO HE VOTED AGAINST THIS.

AND HE'S NOT EXACTLY A HIGHLY CONSERVATIVE VOICE.

SO THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY A 4 TO 3 VOTE.

IF YOU WANT TO GET TO A SIX-FLEX, LET'S SAY, WHICH IS ALLOWED WITHIN A COUPLE BLOCKS OF MAJOR TRANSIT CORRIDORS, YOU HAVE TO ADD A UNIT OR TWO OF WORKFORCE HOUSING SO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

>> Eric: DO YOU HAVE A SIMILAR THING TO MINNEAPOLIS WHERE YOU'VE GOT SOME DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS RUNNING?

GLEFD, I MEAN, THE CITY COUNCIL ELECTIONS, NOVEMBER 7TH IS GOING TO BE A BIG DAY.

AND I THINK WE HAVE 30 CANDIDATES FOR SEVEN SEATS.

FOUR OF OUR SITTING COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO RUN FOR REELECTION.

SO MOST OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO TURN OVER.

SO THE TWIN CITIES D.S.A.

HAS BEEN VERY VOCAL IN ENDORSING CANDIDATES.

THE D.F.L.

HAS BEEN VERY VOCAL.

I'M LOOKERRING AT WARD ONE WHERE THERE WAS NO ENDORSEMENT.

THAT'S FROGTOWN, SUMMIT, UNIVERSITY, PART OF THE NORTH END.

LOTS OF DIFFERENT GROUCHES ARE VYING FOR THAT.

THERE'S EIGHT CANDIDATES THERE.

>> Eric: SALES TAX, 1 PERCENTAGE POINT INCREASE ON THE BALLOT.

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

>> I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BRING SOME PEOPLE OUT TO VOTE.

OFF-YEAR ELECTIONS TEND TO BE SLEEPY.

THIS MIGHT NOT BE SO SLEEPY.

THERE'S A QUESTION THAT SAYS IF YOU VOTE YES, WE WILL INCREASE THE CITY SALES TAX BY A PERCENTAGE POINT.

IT ALREADY WENT UP A PERCENTAGE POINT TO FUND METRO TRANSIT, TRANSIT, AND SOME STATE HOUSING INITIATIVES.

SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER 1%.

THAT WOULD REALLY MAKE ST. PAUL THE PRICEYEST SALES TAX -- >> Eric: CLOSE TO 10%, WOULDN'T IT BE?

>> YEAH, ABOUT 9.75.

BUT THAT WOULD FUND ROAD RECONSTRUCTIONS, OUR ROADS HAVE BEEN A MESS.

I THINK I CAN OBJECTIVELY SAY THAT.

ANYONE WHO'S DRIVEN THROUGH ST. PAUL.

3/4 OF THAT BILLION DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE RAIDED WOULD BE FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION.

A FOURTH WOULD BE PARKS.

>> Cathy: THAT'S TRUE.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE A NEW COUNCIL, I BET YOU, WILL REVISIT SOME BIG ISSUES.

I BET RENT CONTROL.

>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT'S COME UP A LOT.

RENT CONTROL.

IN HIGHLAND PARK, YOU'VE GOT A RACE BETWEEN SARAH JOST, ISAAC JOST I THINK WOULD BE CALL THE FRONT RUNNERS.

THERE'S A 20-YEAR EXEMPTION FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WENT THROUGH LAST FALL.

HE WOULD EXPAND THAT TO 30 YEARS.

SO THAT'S 30 YEARS WITHOUT RENT CONTROL FOR A BRAND ?EMP BUILDING TO KEEP IN BASE WITH THE MORTGAGE.

>> Eric: AND A QUICK REMINDER, YOU HAVE RANKED CHOICE VOTING.

>> YOU CAN VOTE FOR BOTH OF THEM.

>> AND 22ND SEPTEMBER IS WHEN THE EARLY VOTING STARTS.

>> YOU COULD HAVE VOTED A WEEK AGO.

>> Eric: THANKS VERY MUCH.

♪♪ >> ERIC: THIS SUNDAY WILL MARK 34 YEARS SINCE 11-YEAR-OLD JACOB WETTERLING WAS ABDUCTED AT GUNPOINT IN ST. JOSEPH, MINNESOTA, WHILE BIKING HOME WITH HIS BROTHER AND A FRIEND.

THE SEARCH FOR JACOB WOULD CONTINUE FOR NEARLY 27 YEARS UNTIL A CONFESSION BROUGHT AUTHORITIES AND THE FAMILY TO HIS REMAINS.

THROUGH THE DECADES, JACOB'S MOM, PATTY WETTERLING, BECAME THE FACE OF HOPE, TRAGEDY, AND A NATIONAL ADVOCATE FOR MISSING CHILDREN.

SHE CHRONICLES HER STORY IN "DEAR JACOB," A MEMOIR CO-AUTHORED WITH JOY BAKER, THE BLOGGER WHO HELPED CRACK THE CASE.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Eric: YOU GO THROUGH THESE EVENTS, I GUESS AGAIN, WRITING THE BOOK.

WHAT WAS THE PERSON, AND WAS IT -- WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE AND WAS IT TOUGH FOR YOU?

>> IT WAS ACTUALLY HEALING.

YOU KNOW, I NEVER STOPPED TO THINK ABOUT ALL THAT WAS HAPPENING.

I WAS JUST PUSHING FORWARD.

WHERE DO WE GO NEXT?

WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO.

AND SO T GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT.

AND PART OF THAT I THINK IS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO HEAL.

YOU WERE THERE.

I MEAN, PEOPLE WERE -- THEY'VE LIVED IT EVERYWHERE I GO.

I'M HEARING STORIES.

MY HILD WAS BORN THAT DAY.

OR MY CHILD HAD CANCER, AND I WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH WITHOUT FEELING YOUR HOPE AND KNOWING WHAT TO DO.

AND SO IT WAS LIKE THIS KIND OF HEALING AND THE STORY THAT HADN'T BEEN TOLD.

IT WAS OUR PERSONAL JOURNEY.

- >> Cathy: JOY, I WANT TO GET TO YOU IN JUST A MOMENT.

BUT, PATTY, IN THOSE HOURS AND DAYS AFTER THE KIDNAPPING, I REMEMBER IT WAS SO CHAOTIC.

AND YOU WRITE ABOUT THAT TOO.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Cathy: HOW DID YOU NAVIGATE THAT?

>> I DIDN'T.

MY SISTER CAME FROM CALIFORNIA AND STAYED WITH US AND SHE'D SAY, GO HERE, DRESS, WEAR THIS, EAT.

YOU KNOW, I HONESTLY WAS -- WHEN I LOOK BACK AT EARLY VIDEO, WAS STARING INTO LA-LA LAND.

I WAS KIND OF NONFUNCTIONAL.

BUT PEOPLE WERE KIND ND THEY CARRIED US WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ENCOURAGE TO GET UP OUT OF BED.

SO IT WAS TRAUMATIC.

>> Eric: JOY, HOW DO YOU ENTER THE PICTURE HERE IN THE STORY?

>> WELL, I ADJUST A MOM OF TWO TEENAGE BOYS TRYING TO NAVIGATE MY WAY TO A SECOND ACT.

I HAD BEEN IN MARKETING MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE, AND SO IDENTIFY STARTED THIS BLOG.

I THOUGHT THAT WOULD KEEP ME WRITING.

AND I DECIDED TO WRITE ABOUT THE JACOB WETTERLING STORY AND THAT IS KIND OF HOW IT STARTED.

>> Cathy: BUT YOU HAD SOME DELICATE GROUND TO TROD IN THAT PATTY AND THE FAMILY WERE JUST INUNDATED AT CERTAIN POINTS WITH JUST WEIRDOES.

I MEAN, REALLY, YOU WERE.

STRANGE PEOPLE.

WHO HAD ALL KINDS OF THEORIES ABOUT WHERE JACOB WAS AND ALL OF THAT.

SO YOU COME ON THE SCENE.

AND YOU HAVE TO TRY TO GAIN PATTY'S TRUST TO WRITE HIS BOOK, RIGHT?

>> YEAH, THAT WAS HARD.

BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS JUST A MOM HELPING ANOTHER MOM.

AND THAT HAD NOT REALLY OCCURRED TO ME.

AND I -- IT WAS HARD.

I MEAN, I WAS PROBABLY ACTING A BIT LIKE A STALKER BUT TRYING REALLY HARD NOT TO.

AND SO PATTY EVENTUALLY CAME AROUND.

>> Eric: IN THE BOOK, YOU TALK ABOUT LOBBYING CONGRESS FOR A LAW CHANGE.

AND YOU'RE IN THE ROSE GARDEN WHEN PRESIDENT CLINTON SIGNINGS AND I WANT TO GET THE NAME RIGHT.

THE JACOB WETTERLING CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN AND SEXUALLY VIOLENT OFFENDERS REGISTRATION ACT.

I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE BOOK, PEOPLE SAY, YOU MUST VERY PROUD TO HAVE JACOB'S NAME ATTACHED TO A BULL.

AND THAT'S NOT SO.

>> IT'S HARD.

YOU'RE AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND IT SHOULD BE THIS GRANDIOSE MOMENT AND IT WAS INCREDIBLY SAD.

MY MOM CAME OUT THERE.

AND SENATOR DURENBERGER AND JIM RAMSTAD WERE REALLY KEY.

AND THERE WAS JUST A PART OF ME THAT JUST WANTED TO CURL UP IN A BALL AND GO AWAY.

BUT T WAS SOMETHING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT SAID THEY NEEDED.

AND I WOULD DO WHATEVER -- THAT'S WHAT I ASKED.

WHAT DO YOU NEED?

WHAT WOULD HELP YOU FIND THESE KIDS?

AND THEY SAID IT WOULD HAVE HELPED TO KNOW WHO WAS IN THE AREA.

SO WE DID IT.

>> Eric: TELL US ABOUT JARED SCHYRE LSKS.

L. >> HE WAS AMAZINGLY BRAVE.

HE WAS A YOUNG 12-YEAR-OLD WHO WAS KIDNAPPED AND SEXUALLY ASSAULTED NINE MONTHS PRIOR TO JACOB IN JANUARY OF 1989.

AND I FOUND JARED.

I WANTED TO TALK TO HIM.

I DIDN'T KNOW OF HIM UNTIL I STARTED BLOGGING.

AND SO FOUND HIM WITH SOME GENEALOGY SKILLS AND SOME LUCK.

AND HE AGREED TO TALK TO ME.

AN JUST BY HIM SHARING HIS STORY AND THEN WHEN WE DISCOVERED THESE OTHER CASES IN ABOUT A ANESTHESIAS VILLE OF THESE SIMILAR INCIDENTS, JARED WAS THE ONE WHO WENT UP TO THESE GUYS AND SAID, HERE'S MY STORY.

WILL YOU SHARE YOURS?

AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT START AID THIS WHOLE THING.

>> Eric: AND THEN YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS TOO, OF COURSE, PATTY.

>> I KNEW JARED.

I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE ARTICLE THAT SHE HAD FOUND IDENTIFYING OTHER VICTIMS.

I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IS THAT.

AND SO IT WAS NEW.

ALL THE LOS ANGELES TRAINING SAID I PARTICIPATED IN AND LEARNED IS WHEN THERE'S A CLUSTER OF VICTIMS, THERE'S PROBABLY -- THEY'RE RELATED.

AND JOY WAS TURNING EVERYTHING OVER.

FOR SO LONG, I WANTED TO KNOW IF SHE WAS NORMAL.

BUT SHE'S NOT NORMAL.

SHE'S EXTRAORDINARY.

SHE'S REALLY BRIGHT.

AND KEPT ASKING QUESTIONS.

AND LOGGING EVERYTHING AND CHARTING.

WHERE DID THESE HAPPEN?

AND PUT TOGETHER A PACKAGE.

WE HEARD FROM THE F.B.I.

JUST THE OTHER DAY THAT HELPED THEM DRAMATICALLY WHEN THEY WENT BACK TO REVISIT THE CASE.

>> Eric: DO YOU QUESTION THE QUALITY OF THE INVESTIGATION?

>> NOPE.

NO, I REALLY DON'T.

THOSE KIDS WERE VICTIMIZED IN 1987.

JACOB IN '89.

LAW ENFORCEMENT DIDN'T HAVE FAX MACHINES.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE A COMMUNICATION SYSTEM STATEWIDE.

SO NOBODY KNEW HAT WAS GOING ON HERE.

AND MAYBE TEN MILES AWAY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THAT AUTOMATIC THING.

AND THEY DID WHAT THEY COULD.

I THOUGHT IT WAS INCREDIBLE DETAIL.

AND THEY SAVED EVIDENCE.

THAT'S WHAT EVENTUALLY GOT THEM TO IDENTIFY THE VICTIM, THE GUY WHO VICTIMIZED JARED.

>> >> Cathy: I THINK ABOUT HOW SO MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES WERE CHANGED BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO JACOB.

AND I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, EVEN PARENTING CHANGE AID.

DID IT NOT?

I MEAN, YOU HAD TWO BOYS.

DID YOU BELET THEM GO OUT OF YOUR SIGHT AFTER THIS?

>> WELL, NOT MUCH.

HONESTLY.

I MEAN, I WAS A VERY STRICT PARENT.

ASK MY BOYS.

I'M SURE THEY WOULD TELL YOU THAT.

AND THAT WAS A WHOLE NEW WAY OF RAISING CHILDREN.

I MEAN, YOU HAD TO TELL YOUR KIDS, IF SOMEONE TRIES TO TAKE YOU, YOU RUN.

YOU JUST DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.

SO WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR KIDS.

>> Cathy: AND THERE'S BEEN GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE KIND OF GROWN UP IN THAT WAY.

>> Cathy: I ANT TO KNOW, DO YOU FEEL JACOB IS WITH YOU?

>> ALL THE TIME.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT HIM TODAY.

YEAH, WE CARRY HIM RIGHT HERE, CLOSE TO OUR HEARTS.

AND I CAN HEAR HIM LAUGH SOMETIMES.

AND LIKE THAT WAS A GOOD ONE, MOM.

YOU KNOW?

HE CALLS ME OUT.

OUR FAMILY CARRIED HIM WITH US FOR SO LONG.

AND I JUST REFUSE TO LET THE MEMORY AND THE LEGACY OF WHO HE WAS, AND THAT'S THE WORLD WE'RE FIGHTING FOR.

I WAS LISTENING TO YOUR SPEAKER AND IT'S LIKE THE WORLD NEEDS TO PULL TOGETHER.

SO MANY PEOPLE, THE ENTIRE STATE AND REGION PULLED TOGETHER FOR JACOB BECAUSE HE HAD THAT SPIRIT, THAT EVERYBODY WAS UNITED AROUND.

AND I THINK WE ARE STARVED FOR THAT NOW.

WE NEED TO PULL TOGETHER AGAIN.

>> Eric: "DEAR JACOB": A MOTHER'S JOURNEY OF HOPE, IT'S A GREAT READ AND THERE'S A LOT OF BEHIND THE SCENES STUFF.

SO THANKS FOR SHARING ALL THAT.

♪♪ >> ERIC: THE MINNESOTA BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP HELD ITS ANNUAL DINNER THIS WEEK WITH A NEW LEADER FOR THE FIRST TIME IN DECADES.

HE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN POLITICS AND MEDIA, STARTING WITH COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR U.S.

SENATOR ROD GRAMS AND RISING TO STATE HOUSE SPEAKER.

POLITICAL REPORTER MARY LAHAMMER HAS COVERED KURT ZELLERS FOR DECADES AND CAUGHT UP WITH HIM IN HIS NEW CORNER OFFICE IN DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS.

>> IS THAT ME?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

[ Laughter ] >> I DON'T HAVE TO -- >> Mary: MORE THAN A DECADE AGO, A YOUNGS DAD NAMES KURT ZELLERS BECAME THE NEW REPUBLICAN SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.

WHAT ARE THOSE CHILDREN MOW?

>> ONE OF THEM IS A THRIVING FRESHMAN AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA.

REAGAN'S DOING GREAT ND WILL HAS NOW LIVED AWAY FROM HOME FOR THREE YEARS AS A BOARDING STUDENT AT CHATTUCK ST. MARY'S.

TWO YEARS IN A ROW, HE'S GOT TO WEAR THE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE I'M PROUD OF MINNESOTA AND USA HOCKEY.

>> Mary: NOW THOSE KIDS ARE ALL GROWN UP AND DAD HAS A NEW JOB AS HEAD OF THE MINNESOTA UBUSINESS PARTNERSHIP.

>> LITTLE FAMILY SECRET, I WAS OVER FOR THE LINCOLN TOURNAMENT WHEN THE BOARD VOTED ON MY POSITION.

EARLY IN THE MORNING, YOU JUST TELL ME WHEN, BUT I SAID, THIS IS KIND OF A ONCE IN A LIFETIME DEAL SO 'M GOING TO BE THERE.

AND IMAGINE, THAT A LOT OF MINNESOTA COMPANIES HAVE HOCKEY CONNECTIONS.

>> Mary: ZELLERS ADMITTEDLY HAS BIG SHOES TO FILL.

ARE THERE STILL MODERATE REPUBLICANS LEFT.

>> INTERESTS GOT TO BE.

THE CLIMATE'S CERTAINLY CHANGED IN THE LAST TEN YEARS.

THERE'S MORE ANGER.

YOU KNOW, AND LESS FRIENDSHIP, LESS REACHING ACROSS THE AISLE.

>> Mary: WEAVER WAS BELOVED IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE POLITICAL COMMUNITY, BIPARTISAN, REACH ACROSS THE AISLE.

ARE YOU GOING TO BE CHARLIE WEAVER?

>> I'M NOT CHARLIE WEAVER, BUT I'M MY OWN IRS HAVE OF THAT, YEAH.

JEFF HAYDEN GAVE ME A GREAT BIG HUG.

SO DID TOM BAKK.

AND A LOT OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE FRIENDS SAID THIS IS GREAT.

WE NEED SOMEBODY WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE, TAKE A LITTLE BIT HARDER STANCE.

>> Mary: ARE YOU A MODERATE?

>> YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE DAY, DEPENDING ON THE ISSUE, YEAH.

I'M STILL FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE.

I'M SAY I'M MORE PRACTICAL THAN MODERATE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE REALLY STRONG WITH THE GOVERNOR AND THE DEMOCRATS.

IF THIS MAKES IT MORE OR LESS COMPETITIVE FOR MINNESOTA BUSINESSES WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT OUT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE US LEADING IN THE NATION, WE'LL BE THERE TO SUPPORT YOU.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S SIMILAR TO CALIFORNIA, FOR TAX POLICY, WE'RE GOING TO CALL ON OUT.

>> Mary: LIKE CHARLIE, HOW MUCH DOES YOUR POLITICAL EXPERIENCE HELP YOU WITH THIS?

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OVERTURN OF ABOUT A QUARTER OF OUR CEOs.

YOU KIND OF WORK YOUR WAY UP.

THERE'S A LOT OF CEOs COMING IN FROM OUTSTATE.

>> Mary: TONIGHT WE'RE BRINGING DOWN THE AVERAGE AGE AT THE GUEST HERE AT "ALMANAC."

ZELLERS CAME OF AGE AS HIS PARTY AND POLITICS CHANGED INTO A DIVISIVE, DIFFICULT ERA.

HOW MUCH WOULD YOU SAY POLITICS CHANGED SINCE YOU LEFT?

>> A LOT.

AND THE ONE THING THAT'S REALLY DISIS A POINTING AND MORE OF A PERSON THING IS, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATORS DON'T MEET WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS.

IF YOU SAY, HI, I'M KURT WITH A.M. ME TOOLS.

>> Mary: HOW IS THE POLARIZATION?

>> WE'RE GOING TO PRIMARY YOU.

YOU BETTER NOT DO THAT.

BRINGING CANDIDATES, NOT OPPOSING PARTY CANDIDATES BUT BRINGING CANDIDATES FROM YOUR OWN PARTY TO THE CAPITOL TO SIT IN THE GALLERY OR BE THERE VISITING, THAT'S HARD CORE.

WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, CANDIDATES THAT ARE PRO-BUSINESS AND IF THAT MEANS GETTING INVOLVED IN HELPING THEM FIGHT OFF A PRIMARY OPPONENT, YEAH, I'M ALL ON BOARD.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE WE'LL JUST TAKE WHATEVER WE CAN GET.

WE'RE GOING TO GO FIND PRO-BUSINESS CANDIDATES.

BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

>> Mary: HIS JOB WILL BE TO HELP GUIDE AND DVOCATE FOR A BUSINESS LANDSCAPE THAT'S GOING ALSO GOING THROUGH CHANGES.

HOW MUCH DOES THAT CHANGE BUSINESS?

>> YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE'RE KIND OF THAT AT EBB WHERE IT WAS LIKE, OH, THIS IS GREAT.

EVERYBODY'S REALLY PRODUCTIVE, AND THEN WELL, MAYBE THEY ARE SHOWING UP IN THEIR PAJAMAS AND MAYBE THEY'RE NOT ON CAMERA.

AND I THINK ONCE THAT KIND OF THE AND THE NEW WORKFORCE, YEAH, IT'S EASY TO WORK FROM HOME, BUT IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO BE FACE TO FASHION.

>> Mary: LAST QUESTION.

YOU WERE HOUSE SPEAKER.

IS THIS THE BEST JOB EVER YET?

>> OH, YEAH, NOW KNOW WHY CHARL YEAR WAS SO HAPPY.

I SAID I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO STAY QUITE AS LONG AS YOU, BUT I SAID, I GOT A LOT OF THINGS I WANT TO GET DONE.

♪♪ >> CATHY: DESPITE RECENT RAINS, THE DOWNPOURS HAVE NOT MADE MINNESOTA'S DROUGHT DISAPPEAR.

TODAY'S GLORIOUS WEATHER SAW A LOT OF OUTDOOR ACTIVITY, BUT PAUL DOUGLAS HAS VENTURED INDOORS TO EXPLAIN THE LATE ARRIVAL OF FROST AND FLAKES HERE IN THE NORTH STAR STATE.

HEAD OF HIS OWN WEATHER COMPANY, PRAEDICTIX, PAUL ALSO SHARES WEATHER MUSINGS IN THE "STAR TRIBUNE" AND ON WCCO RADIO.

I'M ALL CHOKED UP.

>> ARE YOU OKAY?

>> Cathy: I'M SO OVERCOME WE MOTION THAT YOU'RE HIRE.

[ Laughter ] SO WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE DROUGHT?

I MEAN, I'M HAPPY, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S EASING.

BUT WE'RE STILL NOT QUITE OUT OF IT?

>> NO, WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS.

PARTS OF THE METRO ARE NOW DROUGHT-FREE.

IT'S STILL TOO DRY EVERYWHERE.

BUT THE RECENT RAINS, THE DELUGE, IN LATE SEPTEMBER AND JUST LAST WEEK, THAT HELPED.

WE PUT A GIANT DENT IN THE DROUGHT.

BUT I'M GOING TO LEAD WITH SOME GOOD NEWS.

>> Cathy: REALLY?

>> SOMETHING I CAN PREDICT.

FALL FOLIAGE.

[ Laughter ] >> Eric: PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN HERE.

LET'S SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> THIS WAS THE VIEW OUTSIDE MY FRONT DOOR.

>> Cathy: WOW!

>> YEAH, JUST -- >> Eric: BEAUTIFUL.

>> BUT THIS ISN'T UNIQUE.

THIS IS HAPPENING ALL ACROSS THE STATE.

AND THE COLORS ARE PEAKING IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS ACCORDING TO THE MINNESOTA D.N.R.

THE DARK RED UP NORTH, PAST PEAK.

BUT BRAINERD LAKES, ALEXANDRIA LAKES, METRO PEAKING WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE DAYS.

AND YES, IT'S COMING A WEEK OR TWO LATER.

THE BEST THEORY I'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT IS BECAUSE THE TREES ARE JUST AS CONFUSED AS WE ARE.

WITH 90s IN EARLY OCTOBER.

AND, WHAT, WE HAD HE HOTTEST SUMMER ON RECORD WORLDWIDE.

AND SOME F THAT WARMTH IS BLEEDING DEEP INTO TRADITIONAL AUTUMN.

SO, YEAH, WHERE YOU SEE THE ORANGE, THAT'S STILL MODERATE TO SEVERE DROUGHT.

THE YELLOW, OVER MUCH OF THE METRO, IS DRY.

IT'S STILL TOO DRY.

THERE'S STILL A POCKET OF EXTREME DROUGHT OVER FAR SOUTHEASTERN MINNESOTA.

SO, AGAIN, PROGRESS.

BUT WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO.

I FOUND THIS INTERESTING FROM CLIMATE CENTRAL.

SINCE 1970, 21 ADDITIONAL DAYS ABOVE FREEZING.

HERE IN THE TWIN CITIES.

SO WE'RE NOT SEEING THIS SIGNAL IN THE SPRING, BUT IN THE FALL, IT IS STAYING WARMER LONGER, DEEPER INTO OCTOBER.

ON A FAIRLY CONSISTENT BASIS.

WINTER IS COMING.

IT HAS BEEN DELAYED.

THE AVERAGE COATING, IF ANYBODY ASKS, AND I SURE HOPE THEY DON'T, NOVEMBER 6TH.

THE AVERAGE FIRST INCH OF SNOW IS RIGHT AROUND NOVEMBER THE 22ND.

AND DECEMBER 17TH, WE USUALLY GET OUR FIRST 4-INCH SNOWFALL.

SO THIS JUST GIVES US A LITTLE MORE BREATHING ROOM.

N.O.A.A.

YESTERDAY CAME OUT WITH THE OFFICIAL WINTER OUTLOOK.

DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, 3450EU8DER THAN AVERAGE OVER THE NORTHERN TIER.

QUITE A BIT WARMER, PACIFIC NORTHWEST.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL THANKS TO EL NINO.

THIS DEVELOPING WARM STAIN IN THE PACIFIC SESSION.

ALSO A SLIGHT BIAS TOWARDS DRYER THAN AVERAGE.

MUCH WETTER FOR THE GULF COAST, DP.

L. AND THE SOUTHEAST.

THAT'S HOW MOST EL NINOS GO.

BUT AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME BIG DIFFERENCES.

THIS S FROM CLIMBAL GIST BRIAN BRETT SCHEIDER.

THE LAST EL NINO, 2016, EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN RED INCLUDING MINNESOTA, THREE, FOUR, FIVE DEGREES ARMER THAN AVERAGE FOR THE WINTER.

THERE HAVE BEEN 25 EL NINO EVENTS, JUST SINCE 1950.

THE AVERAGE TWO DEGREES WARMER, WHICH DOESN'T SOUND LIKE MUCH, BUT IT CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

AND 22% LESS SNOW ON AVERAGES.

DURING AN EL NINO WINTER ACROSS MOST OF THE STATE.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE BIG EXCEPTIONS.

THE HALLOWEEN SUPERSTORM OF '91.

YOU REMEMBER THAT.

>> Cathy: YES.

>> I'LL TAKE HAT TO MY GRAVE.

25 TO 30 INCHES OF SNOW, THAT TOOK PLACE DURING AN EL NINO WINTER.

>> Cathy: NO!

>> SO WE CAN'T GET TOO COMPLACENT.

ODD CERTAINLY FAVORITE IT'S TO GOING TO BE A MILDER DRYER WINTER.

WE WILL NOT GET 90 INCHES OF SNOW.

I WILL WASH AND WAX ERIC'S MINI VAN IF WE GET MORE THAN 60 INCHES OF SNOW.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET 40 TO 45.

>> Eric: I'VE NEVER OWNED A CAR.

>> NEVER?

>> Cathy: NO.

>> THAT'S RAE MARKABLE.

>> Cathy: THAT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER STORY.

>> Eric: WE'RE GETTING THE HOOK WITH MY CAR STORY.

NICE TO SEE YOU.

>> HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

♪♪ >> ARON: WELL, FOLKS, IT'’S THAT TIME OF YEAR WHEN THINGS START TO GET COLDER, THE DAYS BEGIN TO FEEL SHORT, AND FOR ME, IT'’S THE END OF THE BIKING SEASON.

FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, I'’VE BEEN GLIDING DOWN THE STREETS ON MY BIKE, FEELING THE WIND IN MY HAIR, THE SUN ON MY CHEEKS, AND ANGRY DRIVERS AT THE BACK OF MY HEAD.

BUT NOW THAT'’S GONE, AND SO TO IS MY ENTHUSIASM.

LIKE SO MANY OTHER BEASTS, I MUST NOW TRAVEL BY CAR, AND IT'’S DISAPPOINTING.

MY MIND IS RIDDLED WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT MY NEW LIFE.

WHERE WILL I GET MY MID-DAY EXERCISE?

HOW WILL I RETURN TO A LIFE OF LOOKING FOR PARKING?

HOW MUCH IS GAS NOW?

LAST TIME I CHECKED, IT WAS THREE DOLLARS.

SURELY, IT'’S COME DOWN BY NOW.

YOU KNOW, DESPITE ALL THE DISAPPOINTMENT, THERE ARE THINGS I'’M EXCITED ABOUT.

LIKE I'’LL NO LONGER HAVE HELMET HAIR.

I CAN TRAVEL IN THE RAIN.

AND IF I HIT A POTHOLE, I'’M A LOT LESS LIKELY TO END UP IN THE HOSPITAL.

I'’M REALLY GONNA MISS MY BIKE.

FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, I WOULD START MY DAY BY JUMPING ON MY SPECIALIZED ROCKHOPPER AND RIDING INTO THE SUNLIGHT.

BUT NOW THOSE DAYS ARE OVER.

THIS WILL BE THE LAST WEEK I RIDE MY BIKE.

SO IF YOU SEE ME, PLEASE KNOW I'’M HAVING THE TIME OF MY LIFE, AND DO ME THE FAVOR OF GIVING ME THE RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE I LIKELY WON'’T BE ABLE TO CUT YOU OFF FOR ANOTHER SEVEN MONTHS.

♪♪ >> CATHY: A NEW DOCUMENTARY FILM MAKING ITS WAY ALONG THE FESTIVAL CIRCUIT IS COMING BACK TO THE TWIN CITIES.

CALLED "FINDING HER BEAT," THE FILM FOLLOWS AN INTERNATIONAL TROUPE OF PERFORMERS ATTEMPTING TO ORGANIZE AND STAGE A PERFORMANCE IN ST. PAUL JUST AS THE PANDEMIC BEGAN TO SPREAD.

IF THAT WASN'T COMPLICATED ENOUGH, THE PERFORMANCE WAS AN EXHIBITION OF TRADITIONAL JAPANESE TAIKO DRUMMING, WHICH HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN RESTRICTED TO ONLY MALE PERFORMERS, WHICH NO ONE IN THIS TROUPE IS.

>> I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO PRODUCE AN ALL STAR CONCERT.

BRING THE BEST FEMALE TAIKO ARTISTS FROM JAPAN AND FROM NORTH AMERICA TOGETHER.

AND PUT WOMEN CENTER STAGE.

OKAY, WE'RE REALLY DOING THIS.

YEAH!

THERE ARE AMAZING FEMALE TAIKO PLAYERS, BUT THEY'RE KIND OF SCATTERED AND KIND OF WORK IN ISOLATION.

SO HAPPY YOU'RE HERE!

[ Cheers and applause ] >> I AM FROM SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA.

>> I'M FROM HAWAII.

>> TOKYO.

MY NAME IS MEGAN CHAO AND I AM A GUEST ARTIST TONIGHT.

>> AND MY WIFE.

>> IN COLLEGE, I DISCOVERED TAIKO.

IT'S THE THING THAT KEPT ME ALIVE.

>> IT'S THE IRST TIME THAT I FEEL FULLY SHOWING WHO I AM.

>> IT'S LIKE A 20 YEARS AGO DREAM.

>> AND YOU'RE ONE OF HE BEST PERFORMERS.

>> WELL, THANK YOU, MOTHER.

>> THE GOAL IS FOR YOUTH TO BE YOURSELF AND I WILL TRY TO WEAVE US TOGETHER FOR THE CONCERT.

>> TRUST ME, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REGRET ANY OF THIS.

>> THIS KIND OF GATHERING HAS NOT HAPPENED BEFORE.

>> THAT IS ERY KEY.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION AND JOCKEYING, BUT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE WOMEN AND WE SUPPORT EACH OTHER.

>> IT WAS LIKE A PRESSURE COOKER.

SO ALL YOUR TRIGGERS GET TRIGGERED.

>> REHEARSAL, REHEARSAL, CONCERT, WHAT AM I DOING?

>> THE TIME IS APPROACHING.

AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO HOLD THIS TOGETHER?

>> [ SPEAKING WORLD LANGUAGE ] >> WHY IS IT THAT WE THINK THAT WE DON'T BELONG.

WE DESERVE TO DO THIS WORK.

>> BREATHE TOGETHER.

YOU ARE POWER.

YOUR ENERGY.

YOUR LOVE.

TO OUR SOUND.

THEN IT WILL BE OUR BEAT.

>> OKAY.

LET'S DO IT.

[ DRUMS BEATING ] [ Cheers and applause ] >> Cathy: WOW, WOW!

JOINING US IS ONE OF THE TAIKO DRUMMERS AND PRODUCERS OF "FINDING HER BEAT," MEGAN CHAO SMITH.

HEY, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> GREAT TO BE HERE.

>> Cathy: HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE TAIKO TO SOMEONE WHO HAS NO IDEA.

>> WELL, I WOULD SAY, FIRST OF ALL, YOU FEEL IT THROUGH YOUR WHOLE BODY.

WE'LL OFTEN HAVE NEWBORN BABIES IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT THEY ALWAYS SLEEP.

SO THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY PRIMAL AND SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY RESONATES THROUGH ALL THE LAYERS OF WHO WE ARE.

>> Cathy: AND IT COMES RIGHT THROUGH YOUR BODY.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY FEEL IT.

>> ABSOLUTELY, YEP.

>> Eric: HOW MUCH DID HE SHAKEUP, THE COMMUNITY, THE DRUMMING COMMUNITY?

THEY MUST HAVE BEEN STARTLED BY THIS?

>> YES, I THINK -- WELL, IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PLAN ON COVID, AND THEN EVERYBODY HAD TO SHUT DOWN.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A BIT OF A HIATUS, BUT THEN WHEN THE FILM CAME OUT, YES, WE DID SHAKE UP EVERYBODY.

AND >> Eric: BECAUSE THIS IS IS - TOTALLY MALE DOMINATED.

>> YES, TRADITIONALLY IN JAPAN FOR SURE AND SINCE THE 1970s, IT'S BEEN HAVING A GOOD LIFE HERE IN NORTH AMERICA, BUT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE FILM HAD BEEN FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS WORKING OFF TO THE SIDE AND PROHIBITED FROM BEING CENTER STAGE.

>> Cathy: REALLY?

SO REALLY TO HAVE YOU ALL TO THAT STAGE WAS REALLY AN EYE OPENER FOR MANY, MANY PEOPLE.

>> IT WAS A HUGE EYE OPENER AND THE SINGLE CHANCE FOR SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE TO GET THEIR LIFE'S WORK OUT.

>> Cathy: WOW!

SO HOW DID THE FILM COME ABOUT?

I MEAN, OF ALL THE SUBJECTS YOU COULD TALK ABOUT.

I MEAN, THIS IS AN AMAZING SUBJECT.

AND IT'S SO POWERFUL.

BUT HOW DID YOU ALL COALESCE?

>> MY WIFE, JEN, SHE'S A PRODUCER WITH TAIKO ARTS MIDWEST, HER COLLEGE BUDDY, DAWN MICHAELSON, THEY WENT OUT TO NOODLES AND KILOMETER AND JEN SAID WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS BIG EVENT AND PLEASE RECORD THE CONCERT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT TO GO AWAY.

AND JEN WAS USITTING THERE AND SHE SAID, THIS IS A FEATURE FILL EAMENT.

WE STARTED FILM IN 2018 AND MANAGED TO ET THE ARTISTS HERE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.

>> Eric: WERE THERE SOME SHARP ELBOWS?

>> THERE WAS SOME SHARP ELBOWS.

THERE WERE SOME SHARP STICKS.

AND AS WOMEN, THERE'S THIS FALSE IDEA THAT WE ARE NOT CUT-THROAT, BUT WE ARE HUMAN LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

SO IT WAS ACROSS CULTURE, ACROSS LANGUAGES AND, YOU KNOW, A VERY LIMITED STAGE FOR ALL OF THESE PEOPLE.

SO IT WAS A PRESSURE COOKER.

>> Cathy: I DON'T EVEN KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU GOT THIS ALL GOING DURING COVID.

I MEAN, HOW DID YOU DO THE REHEARSALS?

>> WELL, REDID THE REHERRALS ON THE RESIDENCY, BROUGHT EVERYBODY HERE BY PLANE.

AND THEN COVID STARTED HITTING.

BUT WITNESS DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS HAPPENING BECAUSE WE WERE LIKE REHEARSING 24 HOURS A DAY.

AND IN THE FILM, THAT IS CAPTURED.

AND UNINTENTIONALLY BECAME A HUGE CHARACTER IN THE STORY.

AND THEN WHEN WE PERFORMED FEBRUARY 29TH, 2020, AND THEN EVERYTHING WENT DARK.

>> Cathy: GOT IT.

WOW.

>> Eric: SO FOLKS WANT TO SEE IT, IT'S PLAYING AT THE ST. ANTHONY THEATER IN MINNEAPOLIS.

>> YES, NOW CALLED THE MAIN CINEMA AND RUNNING THROUGH THE 26TH.

WE HAVE A HUGE COMMUNITY EVENT SUNDAY.

WE'RE GIVING UT MIMOSAS TO ANYONE WHO WEARS PRIDE GEAR.

>> Eric: THANKS FOR COMING OVER.

GOOD LUCK WITH IT.

♪♪ >> ERIC: THIS MORNING, HOUSE REPUBLICANS FAILED TO ELECT A U.S. HOUSE SPEAKER IN THEIR THIRD ATTEMPT THIS WEEK.

AT DAY'S END, THE CAUCUS WAS WITHOUT EVEN A SPEAKER NOMINEE.

MEMBERS WENT HOME FOR THE WEEKEND AND ANNOUNCED PLANS FOR A POTENTIAL VOTE ON TUESDAY.

SEVERAL MEMBERS ARE EXPLORING A RUN FOR SPEAKER, INCLUDING MINNESOTA'S SIXTH DISTRICT CONGRESSMAN TOM EMMER.

MAJORITY WHIP EMMER CURRENTLY HOLDS THE THIRD HIGHEST LEADERSHIP POSITION IN THE HOUSE.

LET'S CHECK IN WITH OUR COUCH FULL OF PROFESSORS ON TODAY'S D.C. NEWS.

KATHRYN PEARSON TEACHES POLITICAL SCIENCE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.

THE U OF M IS WHERE LARRY JACOBS HEADS UP THE HUMPHREY SCHOOL'S CENTER FOR POLITICS AND GOVERNANCE.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, CINDY RUGELEY KINDLY MADE THE DRIVE DOWN I-35 TO JOIN US TONIGHT.

SHE LEADS THE POLITICAL SCIENCE DEPARTMENT AT UMD.

SHORT-TERM YOU LITERALLY WROTE THE BOOK ON DISCIPLINE IN THE HOUSE.

[ Laughter ] >> PARTY DISCIPLINE IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

WELL.

>> Eric: WHAT HAPPENED TO PARTY DISCIPLINE IN THE HOUSE.

>> WE DON'T HAVE MUCH F IT RIGHT NOW.

IT IS REALLY STUNNING, THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND CONGRESS IS IN CHAOS.

I MEAN, WE'VE NEVER HAD SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.

YOU KNOW, TRADITIONALLY, THERE'S INTRA-PARTY COMPETITION.

IT'S WORKED OUT IN THE COCAINES.

WHOEVER WINS THE MOST VOTES, THEN GOES TO THE FLOOR.

AND GETS ALL OF THE VOTES OR NEARLY ALL OF THE VOTES OF THE MAJORITY PARTY MEMBERS.

AND REPUBLICANS JUST CAN'T COALESCE AROUND SOMEONE TO GET THEM TO THAT 218 OR 217 VOTES THAT THEY NEED.

BUT IT IS STUNNING THAT THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE CONTEXT OF A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS REQUEST FROM THE PRESIDENT LAST NIGHT FOR $100 BILLION WITH TWO WARS GOING ON.

A CONTINUING RESOLUTION THAT EXPIRES ON NOVEMBER 17TH.

STUNNING.

>> Eric: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE MAY HEM HERE?

>> I MEAN, TO ME, IT IS JUST SHOCKING.

EMMER WOULD PROBABLY BE AS IS ATTRACTIVE AS ANY CANDIDATE.

HE SEEMS TO GET ALONG EVERYONE.

BUT I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN'T COME TOGETHER AND DO THIS.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN PASS A RESOLUTION GIVING THE SPEAKER PRO TEM A LITTLE BIT OF POWER AT LEAST TO MOVE THINGS OFF THE DIME.

IT'S AMAZING TO ME.

>> Cathy: SO, LARRY JACOBS, TOM EMMER SAYS HE'S GOING TO SEEK THE NOMINATION.

HE DOES HAVE SOME ADVANTAGES, RIGHT?

HE'S IN LEADERSHIP ALREADY.

BUT I JUST NOTICED THAT THE FAR RIGHT ON TWITTER OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED NOW WAS -- THERE'S SOME FAR RIGHT FOLKS SAYING TOM EMMER IS NANCY PE LOS YI IN A SUIT.

SO THE KNIVES ARE ALREADY OUT FOR HIM TOO.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, TOM EMMER WOULD NOT ENDORSE DONALD TRUMP.

SO THAT'S A STICKING POINT.

THERE'S A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENT WITH HIS COLLEAGUES IN IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE HE WAS EXPECTED TO DO REALLY WELL IN 2022.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG REPUBLICAN YEAR.

NOT SO MUCH.

WHEN WE WON THE HOUSE MAJORITY WHIP, IT WAS BY ONE VOTE.

SO THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME CHALLENGES.

ON THE OTHER HAND, HERE'S A GUY WHO HAS MADE IT A REAL PRIORITY TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS.

I THINK IF PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO GET OFF THEIR FIRST CHOICE, AND THINK ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS, HE COULD BE SECOND CHOICE.

MY HUNCH IS ALL THE PHONE CALLS THAT HE'S BEEN DOING TODAY AND I'M HEARING THERE ARE A WHOLE LOT, HE'S TELLING PEOPLE LOOK, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO SUPPORT SO AND SO FOR THE FIRST OUND, BUT THINK OF ME FOR THE SECOND ROUND BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO O ON AND N. >> Eric: I WANT TO ASK ABOUT PETE STAUBER.

STARTED OUT AS A JORDAN GUY.

AND THEN WENT FOR -- WHAT WAS HIS NAME?

SOME GUY FROM RKANSAS.

>> I THINK HE WAS ONE OF THEM THAT GAVE JORDAN HIS VOTE ON THE FIRST ROUND.

>> Eric: WHAT'S STAUBER UP TO?

>> HE'LL BE AN EMMER GUY.

I SUSPECT IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH SCALISE.

AND HIS ON IMPORTANT REALLY AFTER HIM FOR SUPPORTING JORDAN.

SO MAYBE HE JUST THOUGHT I DON'T NEED IT THIS TIME.

>> RIGHT, IT IS EXTREMELY HARD TO IMAGINE SOME OF THESE SUB-GROUPS WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AGREEING WITH ONE ANOTHER.

AND IT ONLY TAKES A HANDFUL OF VOTES TO SINK A CANDIDACY.

I MEAN, WE KNOW IT'S THE EIGHT MEMBERS WHO SUNK MCCARTHY.

>> Eric: HE CALLED THEM THE CRAZY EIGHTS.

>> WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE LOOKING CRAZIER AND CRAZIER, FRANKLY.

BUT WITH JORDAN, IT WAS A COMBINATION OF MODERATES WHO WERE CONCERNED ABOUT VOTING FOR HIM AND WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO THEIR EREELECTION AND SOME VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROPRIATORS WHO JUST COULDN'T SUPPORT A CANDIDATE WHO DOESN'T SUPPORT APPROPRIATION BILLS.

TO SOMEONE WHO HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THE APPROPRIATIONS BILLS, THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION SYMPTOMATIC JUST LESS THAN A MONTH.

>> Cathy: HOW DOES THIS DAMAGE THE HOUSE AS AN INSTITUTION?

>> OH, IT'S PRETTY BAD.

I MEAN, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS JUST BY NATURE OF 435 MEMBERS, IT'S ON THE PRECIPICE OF CHAOS.

AND SO YOU HAVE LEADERSHIP POSITIONS.

YOU'VE GOT STRUCTURE.

ALL THAT IS TO CREATE SOME LEVEL OF ORDER.

AND NOW LIKE GRAVITY'S BEEN PULLED EA AND AWAY A.M. PEOPLE ARE FLOPPING JUST EVERY WHICH WAY.

THE MAIN GRAVITATIONAL FORCE NOW IS THE CONSERVATIVE PART OF THE PARTY.

AND THERE ARE MEMBERS WHO JUST TERRIFIED OF BEING PRIMARIED ARE FACING THE WRATH OF DONALD TRUMP OR ONE OF THE OTHER ARCH CONSERVATIVES.

I DO THINK ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING DEVELOPMENTS JUST IN THE LAST 24 HOURS IS WHAT KATHRYN'S TALKING ABOUT.

WE HEAR SO MUCH WITH THE CONSERVATION, THE HASHED RIGHT, CONTROLLING -- THE HARD RIGHT, CONTROLLING HE HOUSE, BUT HERE WE HAVE HE MORE PRAGMATIC COALITION THAT'S FORMED AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY WORTH STUDYING AND TRACKING TO SEE, OKAY, MAYBE IT'S NOT JUST THE HARD RIGHT.

MAYBE IN THIS KIND OF FACTIONAL POLITICS, THE PRAGMATICS HAVE A ROLE TOO.

>> THEY ABSOLUTELY DO.

BUT THEY'RE NOT SO PRAGMATIC THAT THEY ARE YET WILLING TO WORK WITH DEMOCRATS AND THAT'S WHERE THE EXTREME PARTISAN POLARIZATION IS AT PLAY AND ALSO PREVENTING SOMETHING FROM EMERGING.

>> Eric: WHAT IF WE WIND THE BLOCK BACK TO WHEN MCCARTHY GOT OUSTED.

WHY DIDN'T THE DEMOCRATS THROW A FEW VOTES HIS WAY TO SAVE THEM?

>> WELL, BECAUSE, ONE THING, HE DIDN'T ASK THEM TOO.

SECONDLY, I MEAN, I'M SURE THE DEMOCRATS ARE LOOKING AT IT IT'S THEIR MESS, THEY GOT TO CLEAN UP.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY.

AND I AM, REALLY, WAS MCCARTHY SO IS ATTRACTIVE TO THE DEMOCRATS?

AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD THAT A LOT.

IT'S NOT THE DEMOCRATS' JOB TO DO IT.

IT'S THE REPUBLICANS' JOB TO IN THE PICK THEIR LEADERSHIP.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

IT BY TRADITION ABSOLUTELY IS.

THE SPEAKERSHIP IS NOT A BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT.

IT NEVER HAS BEEN.

THOUGH WHO KNOWS WHAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

WE MIGHT COME TO A PLACE WHERE A BIPARTISAN COALITION AGREES THAT THE SPEAKER PRO TEM NEEDS LEAK OF POWER -- LEAK OF POWER, BUT WE'RE A LONG WAY OFF FROM THAT.

>> THEY COULD HAVE HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SIT AT HOME AND NOT VOTE AT ALL.

BUT I DON'T THINK MCCARTHY HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY KIND TO THE DEMOCRATS.

I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD GET ANYTHING OUT OF IT AT ALL.

>> AND HE DIDN'T VOTE TO CERTIFY THE ELECTION.

THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

>> >> Cathy: SO THE WEEK FROM TODAY IS THE DEADLINE TO FILE TO SIGN UP FOR THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY.

AND D.F.L.

REPRESENTATIVE DEAN PHILLIPS, IF HE'S SERIOUS, I WOULD PRESUME WOULD SIGN UP, RIGHT?

AT THAT POINT?

>> YEAH, I MEAN, WE'VE ALL BEEN K50EU7BD OF WAITING.

WE HEAR THE TALKING POINTS AND THE INTERVIEWS AND HE'S REALLY BEEN GOING AFTER JOE BIDEN AND ENCOURAGING COMPETITION.

AND SO FAR THERE ARE NOT ANY OTHER DEMOCRATS JUMPING IN.

HE'S REATED SUCH A WRATH OF BACKLASH THAT HE'S HAD TO STEP DOWN FROM A LEADERSHIP POSITION AND WHAT WAS ONCE A VERY PROMISING CAREER IS NOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK HAS GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A LIMP TO.

HE'S ALREADY MISSED SOME DEADLINES.

SO IT WAS NEVER CLEAR WHAT HE WAS UP TO.

THE BASICS OF A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, THIS IS LIKE A CHECK LIST SORT OF THING.

FUNDRAISING, BUILDING A STAFF.

AND FILING, YOU KNOW, THE LEGAL PAPERWORK YOU NEED TO GET TO THE BALLOTS.

HE HASN'T DONE ANY OF THAT.

IT'S REALLY JUST A -- FRANKLY, IT'S A YSTERY.

>> Eric: PRESIDENT TRUMP, A COUPLE OF HIS LAWYERS HAVE JUMPED AND TAKEN A PLEA BARGAIN AND APPARENTLY ARE GOING TO HELP THE PROSECUTION IN THE GEORGIA CASE.

THOUGHTS?

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK HE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF ONE OF THEM, I EAN, SYDNEY POWELL, FOR EXAMPLE, HE PROBABLY COULD HAVE SURVIVED THAT ONE, BUT GETTING TWO OF THEM, IF THEY'VE GOT -- THE THING IS, IT RAISES THE QUESTION OF, ARE THEY GOING TO SAY EVERYBODY KNEW HE LOST THE ELECTION?

EVERYBODY KNEW HAT THIS WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND IT MAY NOT CONVICT HIM, BUT I MEAN, T JUST SAYS, EVERYBODY KNEW.

>> Eric: BUT HIS VOTERS DON'T SEEM TO -- >> NO, THEY DON'T.

AND THEY WON'T.

>> LET'S WATCH THAT.

I'VE BEEN TALKING TO SOME OF THE REPUBLICAN CONSULTANTS.

FOR THE CANDIDATES.

SEVERAL CANDIDATES.

AND THEY SAY THEY THINK TRUMP'S SUPPORT IS SOFT.

THAT THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DOING A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF SURVEYS AND FOCUS GROUPS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS HAPPENING HERE.

AND IT'S NOT JUST THE LEGAL SYSTEM PICKING ON DONALD TRUMP.

THEY'RE INCREASINGLY GOING TO BE REPUBLICANS COMING FORWARD, AND FORMER LOYALISTS AND I THINK WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MONEY, OR JUST FLAT-OUT TRYING TO STEAL AN ELECTION, MAYBE IT'S DIFFERENT.

MAYBE HE BEGINS TO LOSE SOME SUPPORT.

BUT HONESTLY, THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKELY AT THIS POINT.

BUT I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> WELL, THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WILL BE VERY TELLING WITH ENDORSEMENTS AND POLLING IN SOME OF THE EARLY STATES.

RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE TRUMP HAS A BIG LEAD IN EVERY EARLY STATE.

BUT THAT COULD CHANGE.

BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH BOTH LOOKING AT THE FUNDRAISING POLLS AND WHERE THE PARTY ENDORSEMENTS ARE.

AND SO FAR REPUBLICANS ARE WRL NOT WILLING TO DESERT TRUMP.

>> AND I'D AGREE ON THAT BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH LARRY.

EVERYTHING YOU HEAR IS THAT HIS SUPPORT ISN'T AS DEEP AS PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK IT IS.

I MEAN, HE'S GOT A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WILL NEVER ABANDON HIM.

BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH WATCHING.

IDENTIFICATION IT'S WORTH KEEPING AN EYE ON.

GLI >> Eric: WHO WOULD BE HIS RUNNING MATE?

>> NICK YI HALEY.

>> Eric: OOH, INTERESTING.

THE PLOT THICKENS.

THANKS FOR SHARING TONIGHT.

A LOT OF GOOD STUFF TONIGHT.

♪♪ >> THIS IS A REFERENDUM ON PEOPLE.

IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE, YOU LIKE THE DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THIS IS PROBABLY YOUR LAST SHOT TO IN A GOVERNORSHIP.

WE'LL SEE.

[Overlapping conversations] >> Eric: ALK AMONGST YOURSELVES.

♪♪ >> CATHY: EARLIER THAT SAME EVENING, REPUBLICAN PANELIST PETER BELL BET DEAN BARKLEY A STEAK DINNER THAT JESSE VENTURA WOULD NOT BECOME MINNESOTA'S NEXT GOVERNOR.

WONDER IF PETER EVER BOUGHT DEAN THAT STEAK?

I DO NOT KNOW.

LET'S MOVE ALONG TO MY FAVORITE PART OF THE SHOW, MINNESOTA HISTORY.

LAST WEEK, ERIC PRETENDED TO BE THE MYSTERY PERSON.

HE TOLD YOU THAT HE WAS BORN IN MINNESOTA MORE THAN A CENTURY AGO AND WAS THE MASTERMIND BEHIND MANY MID-20TH-CENTURY MODERN CONVENIENCES.

ERIC THEN ADDED SOME SPACE-RELATED HINTS.

YOUR TASK WAS SIMPLE.

TELL US WHO THE MYSTERY INVENTOR WAS.

THE SPACE HINTS DIDN'T HELP OUT THESE REGULAR CALLERS.

>> Cathy: NO AND NO.

FOR THIS WEEK'S RIGHT ANSWER, WE TURN TO MIKE FROM MINNEAPOLIS.

>> Cathy: THANK YOU, MIKE.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

WILLIAM A. MITCHELL IS THE INVENTOR WE SOUGHT.

BORN IN RAYMOND, MINNESOTA, IN 1911, HE BECAME A FOOD CHEMIST FOR GENERAL FOODS CORPORATION FOR 35 YEARS.

AMONG HIS 70 PATENTS WERE THE WELL-LOVED TANG, COOL WHIP, AND POP ROCKS.

I LOVED POP ROCKS AS A KID.

HERE'S A FUN COMMERCIAL FROM 1966 THAT TOUTS THE ASTRONAUT USE OF TANG.

>> THE ASTRONAUTS DO SOMETHING SMIGLUSKI THINGS YOU DO.

IN SPACE, THEY DRINK TANG.

THEY MIX IT LIKE THIS IN A ZERO-G POUCH.

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

YOU CAN MIX IT IN A GLASS.

UP THERE, THEY HAVE TO DRINK IT CAREFULLY.

THIS WAY.

YOU CAN DRINK IT ANY WAY YOU LIKE.

TANG TASTES ORANGEY.

TASTES GREAT.

HAS LOTS OF VITAMIN C AND A. TANG, CHOSEN FOR THE GEMINI ASTRONAUTS.

HAVE A BLAST.

HAVE SOME TANG.

>> Cathy: I LIKE TANG TOO.

DO YOU HAVE A FUN HISTORY QUESTION TO SHARE WITH US?

DROP US A NOTE AT ALMANAC@TPT.ORG.

AND WHILE YOU'RE ONLINE, WE ALSO WOULD LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK IF YOU USE THE CLOSED CAPTION FEATURE DURING OUR SHOWS.

LET US KNOW WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU AND HOW IT'S BEEN WORKING.

THAT EMAIL ADDRESS ONCE AGAIN IS ALMANAC@TPT.ORG.

JUST ENOUGH TIME LEFT FOR TWO THINGS.

NUMBER ONE: HAPPIEST OF BIRTHDAYS TO OUR GOOD FRIEND MARLENE SCHNEIDER.

I HOPE YOU HAVE MANY MORE BIRTHDAYS.

AND HERE'S SOME SHOW-ENDING MUSIC.

IT WAS THIS WEEK BACK IN 2012 THAT THE LOCAL GROUP "THE LOST WHEELS" PLAYED FOR US HERE IN STUDIO "B."

AND IF YOU SEE A LITTLE RESEMBLANCE BETWEEN OUR VERY OWN PAUL DOUGLAS AND THE GUITAR PLAYER ON THE LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN, YOUR EYES DO NOT DECEIVE YOU.

THAT IS PAUL'S MUSICAL SON WALT.

TAKE A LISTEN.

WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

>> ♪ IF YOU COULD RULE FOR A DAY ♪ ♪ WOULD YOU STAND UP THERE AND TELL THE FOLKS THE TRUTH ♪ ♪ WOULD YOU GIVE IT ALL AWAY ♪ ♪ FOR A CHANCE TO FIX YOUR OWN LIFE ♪ ♪ MAKE A BETTER LIFE FOR YOU ♪ ♪♪ ♪ IF YOU COULD RULE FOR A DAY ♪ ♪ WOULD YOU TRY AND PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN ♪ ♪ JUST TO WASTE THE TIME AWAY ♪ ♪ SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY THE PRIZE ♪ ♪ OTHERS WOULD JUST LOVE THE CHANCE TO SAY ♪ ♪ EVERYTHING'S OKAY ♪ ♪ IT'LL PROBABLY NEVER HAPPEN ♪ ♪ WOULD YOU STAND UP IF IT WOULD ♪ ♪ WOULD YOU TAKE A CHANCE, TAKE THAT DANCE ♪ ♪ INTO A LITTLE GOOD ♪ ♪ THERE'S A MILLION OTHER FANTASIES ♪ ♪ GO MISSING EVERY DAY ♪ ♪ WOULD YOU BE THE ONE TO TAKE IT ON ♪ ♪ OR JUST GIVE IT ALL AWAY ♪ ♪♪ Captioning by: Paradigm Reporting & Captioning www.paradigmreporting.com >> "ALMANAC" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY MEMBERS OF THIS PUBLIC TELEVISION STATION.

SUPPORT IS ALSO PROVIDED BY... GREAT RIVER ENERGY: PROVIDING WHOLESALE POWER TO 27 MINNESOTA ELECTRIC COOPERATIVES.

DELTA DENTAL OF MINNESOTA FOUNDATION: IMPROVING ORAL HEALTH WHILE ADVANCING SOCIAL EQUITIES.

DELTADENTALMN.ORG/TPT.

AND EDUCATION MINNESOTA: THE VOICE FOR PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS AND STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

MORE AT EDUCATIONMINNESOTA.ORG.

"ALMANAC" IS A PRODUCTION OF TWIN CITIES PBS FOR THE STATIONS OF MINNESOTA PUBLIC TELEVISION ASSOCIATION.