Hello and welcome to GXP.

We're back at Potomac Station Coffee House with another great show.

I'm Valerie, that's David and here we go.

Tonight on Gen X Pittsburg we have the one and only Harvey from the Affordable Floors who joining us shortly.

But first.

Hi, David.

How are you tonight?

Good.

Valerie.

How are you?

I'm good.

I'm a little cold.

Yeah, it's it's really cold in Pittsburgh right now.

It's like negative something or other.

I was shoveling snow like like I was trying to fight Ivan Drago.

Yeah.

I don't know if everybody will get that, but that's a Gen X Rocky 4 for you.

There you go.

Okay, so you don't know?

I don't know.

I'm sorry.

I have to pass on it.

Sylvester Stallone had to fight the guy that killed Apollo Creed in the ring.

Oh, it was horrible, right?

And so he had to go to Russia to fight him at Christmas.

So it's a Christmas movie.

No, it's not.

It's not as it is.

And.

Well.

And he was in Siberia and a part of his training, you know, it was that on last week I thin my husband was actually watching I have a feeling the I have a feeling if you turn on any TV in the world, anywhere, somewhere Rocky 4 is on.

All right.

Right.

At least a Rocky.

Yes, but Rocky 4 it's one of the favorites.

Yeah.

So.

So, David, I was thinking about the good old days back in the early 90s and how crazy and how wonderful and fun and how everybody was kind of finding themselves and, you know, doing things that we probably shouldn't have been doing.

What is the craziest thing tha you did back in the early 90s?

I'm not going to tell you the craziest thing I did because it may harm several people, but I will talk to you about one of the things that I was thinking about th other day, which is, you know, we're coming up on Groundhog Day as we're recording this and the Groundhog Day eve, me and a few friends were sitting around the television drinking, and my friend said, oh, I'm sorry, Groundhog Day.

The movie was on.

And my friend said, you know, it'd be great.

We should go see them do that tomorrow.

And so it was like 2:00 in the morning, and we all had been drinking enough.

And we said, that sounds like a fabulous idea, right?

And so we got in the car.

I was supposed to work at KQV the next day.

So we called the news director and I told hi I wasn't coming in and he said, well, grab a remote bag with you and we'll do a remote while you're on the air.

And I said I think that's a horrible idea.

I've been drinking all night.

He said, oh, you'll be fine.

And had never been on the air at that point.

And so we did.

We drove out to whatever it's called.

But yeah, Punxsutawne I mean, that is isn't it like.

No, it's called like Gulch or something, right?

Not Hill.

Right, right.

Okay.

Right.

Yes it is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But so we got there and first of all, we were all shocked to find out there's no festival.

There's no nothing.

It's just a mud field.

That you have to like get transported to.

Right.

And you're not allowed to have alcohol or, or anything.

So.

But we did that and I didn't.

My first on air remote, which still goes down in radio history, I think is the worst remote ever.

The guy who was on the air staying with Joe Fan, he was, you know, he said things like, so, all right.

So Dave, how was how is Groundhog Day?

Good Joe.

A lot of people?

Probably.

Has he seen his shadow?

I have no idea.

Joe.

All right, well, thanks a lot.

We're gonna.

Wait, wait, wait, wait We have to back up a little bit.

I need I need a real story.

That was a real story.

I need something I'm telling you that has an actual story.

Like, a little bit more like rock and roll then that.

Valerie.

I lived a really puritanical life.

No.

You did.

I most certainly did.

I don't really have crazy stories.

I mean, I can tell yo it's important realm of music.

I'll tell you a. An interesting story.

Maybe just about something I interviewed, not me.

Okay, I interviewed there was a band called Life of Agony.

Do you remember you.

Have you ever heard of that?

No, not many people have.

Right?

Like ten people.

But they were a hardcore band from Brooklyn.

And the lead singer has gon through transition surgery.

So he was a he, he's a she now but he' transitioning back to a he okay.

And he was very angry.

But maybe the angriest person I've ever interviewed in my life.

But they show up and they get their late.

It was graffiti which we're going to talk about in a few minutes.

That's wh this story is sort of relevant.

And so the bus pulls up and they are at least an hour late, and the manager says to them, hey guys, there' no time to go back to the hotel.

And you're to have to, you know, and you're going to just have to go on stage.

And the lead singer was like, and you know this is typical New York, right?

What am I, a [bleep]?

I gotta go on the stage looking like this?

Who are you?

You work for me.

Youre supposed to have my clothes for me.

And he was yelling at this guy, berating him.

And then he sits down next to me and he's like.

And what do you want?

You know.

And so we had to come up with questions and answers in that like horrible, horrible environment.

So how's that?

Does that one pass?

Something a little more juicy.

No.

You have you lived a life.

I just observed the life.

Well, it wasn't my life.

I had a lot of friends who dated rock stars.

I never dated.

Well, I did date.

I did go on a date with one rock star, but this was way before that.

You don't want to tell us who?

No.

We'll talk about that on another show.

Okay.

But I always had girlfriends who were like, oh, so and so from the band.

So, you know, they wanted me to go on tour.

I don't want to buy myself, but you come with me.

So I've been on tou with a couple really cool bands.

I went on tour with, with Jane's Addiction, and my other friend dated one of the guys from or the road manager actually from Smashing Pumpkins.

So I went on the road with them when they were with Pearl Jam and Red Hot Chili Peppers.

So that was very exciting.

Did Perry and David mix it up while you were?

No.

You know what?

First of all, I became kind of friends wit Dave Navarro for a little while.

Such a great guy.

I just I wish we were still friends today because he was.

He's so inspiring.

But Perry Farrell, I know what everybody's thinking.

Oh, you were on tour Jane's Addiction.

They did things that were bad and stuff like that.

But I will tell you that, first of all, Perry Farrell makes one mean ice cappuccino on the tour bus, and he is the most intelligent human being that I've ever met.

He can have a conversation with anybody about anything, any time, and he's s knowledgeable about everything.

I really respect him.

I feel so I wanted a story more like that from you.

They dont exist in my world.

Oh, well, Ive lived a boring life, a boring life.

Well, we're going to speak with somebody who has not lived boring life.

That's right.

Yes.

Harvey from Affordable Floors will be joining us.

Welcome back to Gen X Pittsburgh.

Look who's with us, and I goofed It's not Affordable Floors.

It's The.

The Affordable Floors.

Sorry about that.

You know, I take the blame because I didn't capitalize the T and all of our correspondence back and forth, and I should have for you.

I should have known because I'm, like, a big fan, always said Affordable Floors I do what?

Do what my wife does, blame me.

It's my fault.

So welcome.

Yeah.

We stole the The from Talking Heads.

That's right.

Who didn't?

Who didn't have a The.

That's right.

That confused me too.

So.

Okay, so, Harvey we can't wait to get to know you and chat about your history, but can we go way back?

Can you tell us where did you grow up?

What was what was life, like for you back in the day when you were in a little tot growing up?

Oh, well, going that far back, I don't know.

But my family moved to Pittsburgh in 71 and the hous they bought came with the piano.

So I was directing to piano lessons for a couple of years.

Wasn't very disciplined, didn't like practice.

So eventually I convinced parents.

After that, I just started messing around on my own.

And, you know, there wasn' anybody telling me what to do.

So I did that for a while.

And then maybe you were out high school.

I figured maybe I should get some instruction.

Yeah You wanted to get back into it?

Yeah Where'd you go to high school?

Mt.

Lebanon.

So to me, The Affordable Floors were probably the first big alternative band from Pittsburgh.

As in, I know that alternative is sort of a slippery slope at the time that you were coming up, but it was.

And so I'm really curious to find out about, you know, what the background was, how did you form and the influences, because it was so early, you were doing so much synth work that hadn't been done by a lot of bands before.

So how did you get into the scene?

Well, so I you know, I'm going to take issue.

I don't know that we really the first alternative I mean, there were the Granati Brothers The Cardboards, Kids After Dark.

Maybe Hector and Barris were more contemporaries.

So, I mean, so there were other people, you know, doing the same thin before us or at the same time.

But really the way we go started it was Kirk Botula and I we went to the same high school together, but we didn't know each other until the end of our senior year.

And then we ended up a roommates of college together at both had an interest in music and electronic instruments, and had talked about starting a band, and we would play coffeehouses or parties, just, you know, very informal things, drag in other people as needed.

And of course, until our senior year at CMU, there's a party that was held every four years called the Beaux-Arts Ball.

It was held at the Fine Arts Building.

And so we were we put this band together and we were going to play at the last minute that the thing fell through.

But at that point we had the material so we started playing frat parti I guess our first real grown up gig was the Electric Banana.

Opening opening for the shunts, and I'm not sure if it was that show, but one of the early electric banana shows, there was a liquor control board raid.

Wow.

So we told everybody we opened for the Police.

Love it.

Well what were you playing back then?

I don't want to geek out too much, but what kind of synthesizers are you playing back then?

So the idea was we were going to be guitarless so, you know.

So this this was past the time of the giant modular synthesizers that looked like you know, telephone switchboard.

So, you know, this was, you know, maybe 1981.

So, you know things were relatively compact.

Synthesizers could play more than one note at a time.

Finally, you could program your own sounds and store them in memory.

So, you know, it was practical to use them.

And really, the main thin was, you know, in the in the 60s when synthesizers came around, they would cost as much as a house.

And then in the 70 it would cost as much as a car.

But by the 80s it was like buying an electric guitar.

You could buy a guitar or you could buy a keyboard or whatever you wanted, so.

So it was it was easie and affordable to get into it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But so, I mean, what were you were they modes, were they rolling.

Were you.

I'm just hearing so I okay.

So I don't kno if you want the whole history.

As a freshman in college I had a Roland SH1.

Oh sure.

Yeah I played and I played in a wedding band, so it was just a wa to make money on the weekends.

But by the time the Floors were playing at the Electric Banana or Graffiti, I had graduated to a Chord Poly 800.

Okay.

And then Ensoniq ESQ-1.

Oh geez.

And then the list goes on.

Yeah.

Well, what was it like the writing process?

Because it's so different from, you know, two guy that come in with a guitar bass.

You got a drummer and you just sort of start to jam.

Takes a little more forethought, especially back then with electronic music, you know, I don't know, I remember being at my parents house with Kirk and the first, maybe it was the second song we wrote together was Geneva, and that was pretty much as I remember, written on piano.

I had come up with a riff that became the chorus.

I believe, that Kirk had had something simila that he had just come up with.

Then that began the verse, and just hey, put that next to that, add something else to it.

Yeah.

Who were some of your influences?

Well, I think I think one of the things that made the Floors interesting and exciting to be in was that we never got together and said, hey, let's form a band that sounds like names.

But, you know, you know, I was into stuff, Kirk was into stuff.

Ken was into harder stuff like Rush, Eric our bas player was more of a jazz fan.

Then there was then there wa a revolving door of guitarists and they all had their own interest.

So, you know, I think it was sor of an accidental chemistry that, you know, everybody's jus sort of doing their own thing.

And it just it hopefully gelled.

Yeah.

And maybe that's why when I listened, I spent a week listening again to all the CDs and things like that.

And, and you would hear a piece where you go, oh, maybe that sounds a little bit like The Cure.

That sounds a little bit like New Order, but you really have your own unique sound.

That was I mean, of the time.

Obviously.

Yeah.

I mean, I think there were influences, but hopefully, you know, if someone was on a given particular song, if someone was influenced by some other band then the interests of the other members would sort of camouflage that, that.

Yeah.

But you know, so we were when we started, we were sort of blatantly we wanted to be guitar free just to sort of set ourselves apart.

Not that that was an original idea.

I mean, you know, in the 70s, Gary Wright had done that and, you know, it was Gary.

Gary Neumann, you know, Depeche Mode was around by then.

But when Steve and Kent joined the band.

You know, I don't remembe if I was skeptical about adding a guitar player or not, but I just remember when Steve started playing along, I was like, yeah, yeah, why, why, why why have we been resisting this?

And he was just such a talented guy, you know, all around, You guys played Graffiti.

You guys played the Banana.

What were some of your favorite places to play in the city back then?

I would say Graffiti was definitely a favorite.

I mean, the layout of the room was just so nice.

And then, you know, the staff was so nice and we could do two shows, and he did an under 21 show, like 8:00.

Yeah, that was me.

Yeah.

That was that was exhausting.

How many times did you play there?

So.

So Ken Kent is sitting right over here.

So Kent put together some statistics.

It was, I believe 5 times in eight and a half years.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

So but its eight and a half years I think I remember we were probably playin every month or every six weeks.

And we woul we would argue among ourselves.

You know, should we play less frequently so that we'd be more of a commodity?

If we're playing so frequently, then, you know, people would fee that they could see us anytime.

But if we stretch it out and maybe the crowds.

Because you guys were at a lot of competitions, too.

Yeah.

Well, there was the one.

I think it was Apple Tone.

It was that was probably in 1986.

And that was that led to the recording of our first album.

Yeah, it was a battle of the bands kind of competition and we won that, and I think it wa supposed to be a four slot EP, but we had enough material, and then the guys who were sponsoring i liked us, so we did a full album And so I know that eventually you're signed to a label, and we'll talk about that in a second.

But tell me about the trajectory.

How did it happen?

You recorded the four song EP.

I think you said four songs or did I read?

No, it was supposed to be a four song, but we ended up doing I forget if it was ten or eleven.

Okay.

And so where did you get played on?

I mean, how did it happen?

The.

Well, we were really lucky.

I mean, you know.

So first of all, when we were playing at the Electric Banana and we're really just startin out, there were a few people at WPTS that were really kind to us and gave us a lot of support.

And then once, you know, we were actually appearing on vinyl and then WXXP was like a miracle for the Pittsburgh music scene, not just for us but The 11th Hour, The Clarkes.

I mean, they played a ton of music.

I mean, really, there was a nice little scene in the 80 and even more mainstream radio WDVE they, they would get behind local bands too.

Yeah.

So so there was, there was kind of a scene happening and there were a lot of places to play.

So, you know, not just Banana.

And graffiti there was the upstage, right where I met my wife.

Upstage romance.

Yes.

And Nicks Fat City.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah.

And the many incarnations that.

That that.

I don't think we ever played it.

Did we?

All right.

Okay.

I know I definitely saw you at Nicks Fat City because you used to do.

If I'm correct.

And maybe I'm just mixing things up, but you used to do a cover of Temptation, right?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And so I saw you do that.

And for some reason that stuc in my head as Nicks Fat City.

But maybe I'm wrong.

I don't know when we started playing Temptation and it wa it was probably, you know, just we needed some extra materia to fill out a set, and it just it just became like, well, that thing, a thing of it.

Yes.

Right.

What?

Right.

Sorry.

Well.

That's.

Yeah.

No, I actually started playing temptation.

Stev and I played it in The Pardon, which is a band that we were in where you and Kirk came to see us at the Electric Banana.

Oh, we played at Carlow College.

Was that the first time?

That might have been.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah but yeah, we started playing it in The Pardon and Steve and I, we joined The Floors, said, well, if you want one more cover or other song because I was looking for material, we could do that.

And, and let's be honest.

The song is two chords.

Yeah.

And you can drag that thing on for ten minutes.

Well, you know that.

Then had a drum solo and we've done that.

We did though Well, you know what I like, boys I can actually understand the words.

And I didn't necessarily understand when New Order did it.

All of the words.

Right.

I heard you and I was like, really?

Is that what theyre saying, this is before you had the lyrics online.

So I know you wan to talk about the release.

Yeah.

So we recorded Temptation for that.

Oh, that was, that was produced by Larry Fast of Peter Gabriel fame.

Yeah.

And I remember he he took me aside one one day.

I think he was afraid that he was going to hurt my feelings.

And he was like Harv, Ive worked with a lot of people from England.

And I just think, you know, I'm used to the accent understanding saying.

And I think youre getting some of these words wrong.

So, you know, we did it his way and I think his, his interpretation was wrong too later on.

You know, and that internet came along.

Right.

You could you could double check all this stuff.

So.

Right.

Yeah.

So there, there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There were some very liberal.

Yeah.

Interpretations of that song.

So I want to hear about MCA, but should we take a break or should we just go straight through.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

So tell me abou how MCA happened and the story, because I know that there' a bit of drama went on with it.

Right.

My words, not yours.

Drama.

Yeah.

So we as I remember, we had we had talked with Atlantic Records a couple time and this was after Eric Herzog, our guitarist Drum Walls had left and we were we were back to being guitar free.

So what we did was we had well, Steve Morrison came bac and he would play on some songs.

Rob from The Clarkes play, we had sort of a revolving.

So we did a few shows at Graffiti where we had a revolving door of guitarists, and one of these, NANR guys from Atlantic Records, and afterwards he was like, you know, when you guys settle on a guitarist why dont you give us a call?

But that that completely fell through.

I should remembe exactly how hooked up the MCA.

Probably through College Music Journal.

Oh, wow, CMJ.

Used to go to the conventions.

I got a story about that.

So there was a guy named Mart Scott whose claim to fame was.

He had a label called Gem Records Gem Records.

Yeah.

And he his notoriety was he ha introduced The Cure to America.

So he had a little boutique label called Paradox that was owned by MCA.

And I forget how he came to see us, but he decided he liked us.

Hired Larry Fast to to produce it.

So we recorded that on the mission.

And I remember at the time I was working for PNC Bank downtown, and I forget if it was right after work.

I think it was during my lunch hour.

Larry had to pick me up to take me to the north side so I could fix the vocal overdub and then take, you know, I'm in my suit and he takes back to back.

So yeah.

So that's one.

And so you recorded the album and then MCA got bought.

Right.

So they didn't put out the album.

Is that correct?

Yeah So we recorded the album here.

The mixing was done at House of Music in West Orange, new Jersey.

We had a I think it was a June release date and.

Well, I mean, they're well, I'll try to stick to one story at a time.

The Cure we're putting ou something around the same time and they didn't want us competing with them.

So they said, all right, let's let's hold of and maybe you guys could work on some, some additional material.

And, but, you know, during that transition period Matsushita, Japanese conglomerate bought MCA, anybody who wasn't an established selling act.

Yeah.

And so that's why when I sa that you were one of the first alternative bands in Pittsburgh, what I mean i you were sort of at that wave, the tip of the wave of a whole lot of bands.

Maybe no everybody didn't do big things, but a lot of bands starte getting signed from Pittsburgh.

I know The Clarkes.

Were they on MCA as well?

Maybe not.

I might have been okay, you know, but but obviously Rusted Root, Brownie Mary, there were a whole lot of bands Gathering Field.

It sort of started to, t get signed, but it was sort of at least the way I remember to look at it was it started with the Affordable Floors.

Youre far too modest.

My memories fail, you know, I mentioned some other bands that were in the Pittsburgh scene before u and off the top of my head.

I'm not thinking of anybody that's signed with a major label.

I mean, maybe like, I mean, this was this wouldve been years before us, but like The Silencer or the Granati Brothers, right.

But, you know or Joe Grushecky and The Housero But I think that was almost a a prior generation.

Right That's what I mean, what we did.

Well, we're talking about Gen X, you know, go back to the theme of the show, right.

Like, you seem to be the firs big Gen X band that I remember.

And I could be wrong.

It could just be what I was into.

It could be what I was listening to.

I mean, I hate to say this.

Don't get mad at me.

Anybody, but I viewed you as a much more, My words again.

Not yours.

Right.

Interesting Important band than The Clarkes.

Just in my life, right?

Like.

Like sort of in the in th evolution of Pittsburgh music.

I was more interested in that.

And, you know, certainly it's it's the synthesizers.

It's the songwriting.

The Clarkes were a huge band.

Just different for me.

Yeah.

I mean, I mean, I think in terms of instrumentation, yeah, they're more of a conventional rock and pop country.

Yes type band, wher even though we were, I would say we were very conscious of, you know, being hooky at catchy.

We still wanted some strange textures or interesting rhythms like, yeah, yeah.

And I'm gonna try to put you in the spot with what I say.

I don't mean anything.

I don't mean anything bad about The Clarks.

I just I mean a different kind o music, right?

Yeah, well, I mean, I was I mean, I'm going to think, like, experimenting with the synthesizer and drum machines and effects pedals.

I mean, it was just, you know, I would say everybody i The Floors was very interested in manipulating sound and creating textures and seeing what happens when you combine.

Right?

Right.

You said it very well.

I mean.

Yeah, right.

And so what I don't know is did you go on tour a lot?

Were there are a lot of national tours for the in the Affordable Floors?

No no no not no.

We opened for some national acts in Pittsburgh at Graffiti.

And then after we signed with MCA, Sinead O'Connor was on tour and fired her opening act before she got to Pittsburgh.

So we we got to fill it in Pittsburgh.

Terrifying.

For Level 42, Guadalcanal Diary.

Yeah.

But never I mean we played outside of Pittsburgh, played in New York a couple times.

You did a lot of colleges.

You know, we had a probably a circumference from Columbus to Penn State down to Morgantown, then Erie and that.

Yeah.

But now and then that might be an exception that reached.

What about today?

What's going on with you guys today?

Can we look to can we look forwar to any coming shows, reunions?

Well what's going on?

I am not always in the loop, but we've been talking about Thanksgiving has always been a traditional time for us.

We missed it this year.

So the 2026.

And I don't know if any details have been worked out that I'm not privy to, but I don't know if it's goin to be one night or 2 nights or, you know, I know mixed.

Mr.

Smalls and Thunderbird have been bandied around as possible venues.

Let us know and we will help promote that for sure.

Yeah, yeah.

Do you do you write any more?

Do you guys still the last one was, what, 2018?

Yeah, did a little EP.

Now we we kept after that was released, we you know, we kept working on some additional material.

You know, I can't I can't speak for everyone, but it just it's just like, for me personally, I spent my life and it's just it wasn't like that.

The interest.

But, I mean, we're all still friends, and I'm looking forward to it.

Yeah, yeah.

So can you talk maybe for a minute, then about the legacy of The Affordable Floors?

Do you think about that?

Yeah, right.

I mean do you ever even think about it?

No.

Obviously your biggest fan is sitting next to you, David Rullo.

I was thrilled when we got you on the show.

Been geeking out for like, two weeks now about this.

You know, I don't know that we really have a legacy, you know, I mean, I do take pride in the fact that other than, you know, that little blip around 2018, we've done, you know, reunion shows or return shows, you know, despite decades that have gone by from the heyday I appreciate that we still got.

Yeah, you know, maybe 400 people out to see us.

And, you know, my wife makes a joke whenever The Floors have a gig the next the next week there's a rise in chiropractor.

All the, all the middle aged.

So.

Well, we're going to take a break.

We're going to come back and we have some questions to ask you that are off the cuff.

We ask the same questions to everybody.

So we're break and we'll be back.

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Welcome back, everybody, to Gen X Pittsburgh.

We are here with Harvey from the affordable floors.

And he's been joined by Ken as well.

We are going to be firing some rapid questions for you.

These are probably the hardest question you're going to have all week.

Im certain, right.

So the first one is Iron City or Rolling Rock?

Rolling Rock.

Neither.

Okay, the next question Three Rivers or Heinz Field?

Three Rivers.

Yeah.

What's your favorite Gen X band?

Besides the Affordable Floors.

I say Brownie Mary.

Ill go The Clarks.

Turners or Schneider's?

Schneider's.

I could see it from my bedroom window.

If its good enough for Ken.

Do they have the chocolate?

Oh, yeah.

Strawberry.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Schneiders.

What abou what's your favorite 90s movie?

And by the way, Ill open it up to any Gen X movie.

So 80s on.

90s I was about to say Heat.

Oh.

Thats very sophisticated for this show.

Because Breakfast Club.

About time.

Harvey's like shaking his head right now.

Which is great because last week I said mine and my wife walked up to m and said, what are you thinking?

That's not your favorite movie at all.

So yeah, that's.

Okay.

Next question.

Donzis and Chaunceys or Metropol and Rosebud?

Oh, Metropol and Rosebud.

Yeah.

Is Die Hard a Christmas movie?

Yes.

No.

How about Rocky 4?

Not yet.

All right.

Nirvana or Pearl Jam?

I still remember seeing Jam when they played Saturday Night Live.

First time I saw that and it blew me away.

I was like, what the hell was that?

Yeah, yeah, I got to go.

If you were.

Which character from The Breakfast Club do you relate to the most?

Moll Ringwald.

Oh, right.

I see.

Oh.

Southside Beehive or Oakland Bee Back in the day.

Southside.

Oh, well.

Former King's Court theater.

We were just talking about former Pittsburgh Landmarks.

I'm going to go Oakland.

Okay.

Yeah.

Oakland.

Yeah.

All this, that that hurts.

Valerie is one of the originals.

I mean.

Strictly pretty obvious.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, thank you very much.

Really appreciate two of you being here.

This was fabulous.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

This is a lot of fun.

And we can't wait for Thanksgiving.

We're looking forward already.

To something happening.

Yes, we'll let you all know when we know.

But thanks you guys, so muc for being here with us tonight.

We'll see you guys next week.

The Gen X Pittsburgh Podcast hosts are David Rullo and Valerie Christofel.

Executive producer, David Rullo.

Producer and graphic designer, Kim Rullo.

Producer, Valerie Christofel.

Video production and editor, Brent Isaac.

Music by NeoStem.