These stories are like old friends.

Their lives radiate from the screen like prophets of the past.

They were teachers, but not in a classroom.

Instead, they taught about life to those around them who cared to listen.

And I was their student.

Politics.

Some people love it.

Some people hate it.

But if you want to be governor of Kansas or any other state, you'd better learn to love it because it affects everything you do.

Boy does it.

In 1982, I got an exclusive behind the scenes look at political life on election night.

Anticipation was high as the returns started coming in.

The governor's mansion in Topeka last night, 5:45 p.m., a little over an hour till the polls closed.

A quiet dinner for the Carlin and Docking family.

Saw your grandmother.

Small talk over the table.

No hint that their futures would soon be decided.

Well, I was very confident that point.

I've been through a lot of things.

We were we were prepared for this one.

And today I was just feeling very good and and wishing it were all over with.

Good luck.

At Democratic headquarters downtown, excitement was building.

Back at the executive mansion.

Most of the noise came from the televisions where the returns were starting to come in.

2700 up for you.

It's always it's always good to win again.

I would not have run for reelection if I had not felt like I could do something in a second term.

John Collin With 40,000, a little over 40,000 votes over the Republican candidate Sam Hardy.

So today was just kind of almost going through the motions to make it happen.

I was anxious and nervous and wanted it to be over because I felt it would be.

It would be.

End in our favor, as it has.

That's great.

Governor Carlin had won again.

Time to go to Democratic headquarters to meet the people who made it possible.

Its an exciting moment.

There's very little to compare it with.

Obviously, these are friends supporters who have worked very hard giving up a lot of their time and talent and money, who are excited as well.

And they deserve to be a part of that excitement.

(overlapping voices) Governor, congratulations.

Now we go to work.

A hell of a campaign.

And you, congratulations.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank.

Are we trying to go home?

I enjoyed it.

I was I was excited.

They were excited.

And they all helped us accomplish this.

And I...

I don't know one would want to go through that kind of thing every single day.

But you certainly do enjoy being a part of it and sharing it with everyone who helped us.

I know it's been a good day for the governor.

Despite almost shutting the car door on Jill Docking, wife of the new lieutenant governor.

Oh!

Im comin in here, jeepers!

Oh, here.

Listen, I can sit in the middle.

Now it's home for four more years.

Guaranteed at Cedar Crest.

From Topeka, this is Larry Hatteberg.

Well, Governor Carlin is remembered for being one of the first U.S. governors to travel to China to promote agricultural trade.

Now, those efforts have helped transform the world economy in the decades since.

Governor Carlin is also known for being married four times.

He and the first lady actually divorced during his second term.

Carlin is now 82 and serves as adjunct professor at Kansas State University.

Going to China was really the hallmark, I think, of his career because this was right after Mao opened up China.

China had been black for 30 years.

Nobody had been inside.

And he wanted Kansas to be able to sell agricultural products, grain feed and cattle to China.

And it did open up a lot of opportunities for Kansans to trade with China.

Its fun to go behind the scenes, like on the election night.

It was cool and a good time.

Whenever you come across a young person with grown up ideas and ambitions and a sense of purpose, you have to admire them.

Back in 2000, I interviewed an amazing young man from Rock, Kansas, who was doing something that had never been done before.

Well, I've always had a real, real deep heart and soul in touch, feeling with my heritage and stuff and I really wanted to show other people that it is really something that we need to hold on to.

17 year old Josh Webster in touch with his past.

But living in the present.

And being able to speak the words that my ancestors spoke for so many years, that's a treasure in itself.

(singing) At Douglass High School.

He loves music, even had the lead in the school play.

But it is at home, on the pages of this book he wrote, that details how to speak conversational Cherokee.

For instance, in Cherokee.

You would say, I speak a little Cherokee.

And the Cherokee, to that would be: (speaking Cherokee) Let's meet his family.

First, an army picture of his grandpa.

A full blood Cherokee.

He always said you don't need it.

And I think I do need it.

Because if if we're not, if our people doesn't keep our language, how can we keep our culture?

Then over at the Rock Cafe, his mom, Kim.

The things he has accomplished for 17.

When I haven't even begun to do anything, compared to him.

You'll find his dad, John shoeing horses.

He is a farrier.

He's even speaking it now.

So it just really makes me proud.

You know, for him to be my kid.

You can say the birds are laying their eggs and that's (speaking Cherokee).

For the rest of us, our brush with Native American heritage is sometimes no more than pictures by Frederick Remington hanging at the Wichita Art Museum.

It just come to me one day that ever since I heard the first word of Cherokee come out of my grandfather's mouth, I just had to learn it.

And there is more.

Because of Josh's work, his family has been changed.

Joshs father.

I was a high school dropout, but my youngest son has just inspired me to go on and do it.

I went and took my GED.

I've since passed it this year.

In any culture, education is a light in the night.

So the Cherokee always say, (speaking Cherokee).

Which means until we meet again.

Well, Josh is now 39 and lives in Augusta, and he has made a career out of teaching conversational Cherokee.

Now he teaches it at Wichita State University and has developed his own online program to help people learn the language and become proficient at it.

You can learn more on his website.

Imagine doing that so hard and probably if he hadn't done this, there'd be a good chance the sheriff, the Cherokee language wouldn't exist.

Well, it Might.

It might just die out.

And he's making sure it stays alive.

What a noble cause.

And at age 17, to start that and continue it.

I love that it's at Wichita State University, right now.

That's a hard job to convert that language.

Absolutely.

A lot.

Congrats, Josh.

We're with you, babe.

We are.

Here's another remarkable Kansan.

His name was Roger Smith, and he was a world champion.

He was the best trap shooter in the world.

Yet his accomplishment seemed to simply fly under the radar, until I did this story back in 1977.

Concentration-- an important ability for Roger Smith of Wichita, the worlds champion trap shooter.

It takes 110% concentration all the time to break targets.

You can't be thinking about anything else you've only got to be thinking about the targets for the 15 seconds it takes to break a rock.

But it's possible that even some of Smith's neighbors are not aware of his skills because the local media has virtually ignored the sport of Trapshooting.

Is he good?

Well, his average is 99.25% out of 100 targets, and that's his average.

He's the Grand American Handicap Champion, the State Singles Champion and the High All Around champion at the Grand American Trap Shoot at Vandalia, Ohio.

And those are just his 1977 honors so far.

But what is it about this sport that attracts people like Roger Smith?

It's got to be the competition.

The individual competition, because trapshooting is solely based on the performance of the individual.

And he's got to have that competitive instinct in him to win.

And that's basically all trapshooting is is ability to track a target and shoot a target and keep concentration up for the whole period of while you're shooting 100 targets.

There are 50,000 active members in the Amateur Trapshooting Association of America.

Schools and colleges are beginning to offer the sport on campus.

And Roger Smith believes in trap shooting and says more people would enjoy it if the media would acknowledge it exists.

This is Larry Hatteberg.

And Roger Smith won more tournaments in the years that followed.

And in 1996, he was inducted to the Trapshooting Hall of Fame.

In 2018, though, he passed away at age 76.

And, you know, there are a lot of sports like that that don't get any coverage.

They don't!

No, ESPN and the TV stations.

You're not really interested in it.

But there are a lot of people who do enjoy Trapshooting.

And at least we got the word out.

And they they love it, actually.

That's kind of a good idea for another show on a sports network or, you know, maybe A&E or something like that.

I bet that would have a huge following.

It would have a following.

I mean, they do shows on fishing and this and that.

Yeah, underwater basket weaving.

No, they really don't.

But you know what I mean.

They do shows on everything.

Yeah.

Trapshooting.

There may be one.

If there is, let us know.

kpts.org.

Okay.

Now to another man who was an expert with a gun, but his targets were wild game.

Yeah, hunting exotic animals has become somewhat controversial in recent years.

But back when Howard Schneider did it, trophy hunting was considered a legitimate and an exciting sport.

I visited his home in 1998.

Well, this is my guard baboon.

He's right in front of the front door.

And I'll tell you, there's a lot of people that come up the door.

And when we open the door and I see him standing there, it really gets their attention.

Across the pond in that big Sumner County house.

Dr. Howard Schneider, a Wellington dentist, has spent a lifetime pursuing big game.

So I've just lived the boyhood dream.

And that dream plays out here in his 9000 square foot home.

I think it displays the animals.

We got the North American continent up on the top floor, Africa down here.

And I just about run out of room.

Up, down and all around his house are trophies from the hunt all over five continents, many from Africa.

I've been over there four times, and they all, like I say, have an interesting story behind them.

And Howard Schneider is one of those hunters who enjoys every aspect of the hunt.

It really isn't the killing of the animal, and it's real tough.

The Bushes all have stickers on them and just being getting up on an animal is part of the big challenge.

Because I tell you, the animals are pretty sharp.

This collection of animals is one of the largest in the Midwest, but it'll soon be gone.

Schneider is giving his lifetime of hunting to a private game preserve near Salina.

There it will be used in a museum to educate children on different animal species.

The old one has got big horns as we sit at the breakfast table and we can see the rhino and buffalo and all of that.

But the thing is, we're getting a little older and a lot of it's a big house.

A little more than I want my wife to have take care.

Somebody else enjoying them, too, because they're no good if people can't see them.

Well, theyve almost become part of the family, you might say.

As I said, they all have a story and you can you can almost look back on every one of them and say, hey, I remember when I did that and this happened.

That happened.

And there's little idiosyncrasies about each one.

Oh, this lion right here.

No, we know that he killed two bicyclists.

He kind of liked to ride run roads and get these bicyclists.

And we know he got two.

And he-- I was, I think, going to be number three.

Of course, I had the jeep and I got him at 19 paces.

He looked me over and that was the end of him.

But I was luckier than the bicyclists, I guess for animals are very smart.

You just don't go out and walk up on them because these animals haven't stayed in the wilderness and survive by being dumb.

They are all pretty smart.

It's been it's been good and I've enjoyed every minute of it.

Then a few times I wondered, What am I doing here?

I'd do it again in a flash if I had the chance.

Now you'll see some of these mounted animals on display at the Rolling Hills Museum.

Doug Schneider passed away in 2020 at age 87, and there's no question about it.

It's a today particularly very controversial hobby.

And I remember when I did that story, I got a lot of negative feedback.

Did you really?

Oh, yeah.

People were not happy about it.

Yeah.

And but it was his passion.

And some things that were all right years and years and years ago.

I mean, times evolve, things change, and that's all right.

It is.

And it's all right that they were all right years and years and years ago and not now.

Things, things change.

And it's important not to erase history, but to understand it in the time frame.

And appreciate the evolution and the progress that we've made.

So right, Suzie, so right.

The Indians used to hunt with arrows.

Thurston Grubb wasn't an Indian, but he was an expert at making arrowheads.

Yeah, this is another old story I shot on film from way back.

Way, way, way.

Back in 1977.

Thurston Grubb spends much of his time in the small workroom in his home.

He makes arrowheads.

That's right.

Just like the ones the Indians used.

A friend told him it was a lost art that couldn't be duplicated.

It's something that is unusual, and I suppose that's possibly because I am slightly contrary.

My daughters say very much so.

But when I was told that it couldn't be done, why that of course just made me want to do it all the more.

Thurston makes many of his arrowheads out of obsidian, which is a volcanic glass.

He says it's easier to work with than the flint that the Indians used when they forged their arrowheads.

Okay.

Theres your completed point.

Thurston has been collecting real arrowheads for years, but says his thirst for knowledge concerning them could only come from learning how to make them.

And that's when his unusual hobby began.

To the casual observer, it looks rather easy, but it's not.

He's taught others to make arrowheads, and he's proud of the fact that he's part Delaware Indian.

The walls of his home are loaded with frames of arrowheads in different settings, and they're all made by him.

He says he's sort of given up collecting because it wasn't as much fun as carving them.

These heads are made out of Flint, like the ones used by the Indians here on the plains.

He says Flint is harder to work with and his fingers tire easily.

That's why he uses obsidian, because it's easier to carve.

Thurston retired from an aircraft job at Boeing ten years ago, but says arrowheads are just one hobby of several that keep him alert.

Well, frankly, let's put it this way.

I have so doggone many hobbies that I have worked harder after I retired than I did while I still had a job.

Thurston Grubb, a man whose retirement hasn't quenched his thirst for knowledge.

This is Larry Hatteberg.

Now, Thurston died in 1994.

At age 89.

The Arrowheads ended up in the hands of his grandson, Larry Walker, who lives in Oregon.

And as I'm talking about this story here, I'm thinking we should probably tell the young people what film is.

Exactly!

You know, nobody talks about film anymore.

Back in the day, in television film was king.

That was it.

And we didn't have videotape.

We didn't have anything else.

And you had to go shoot with film, bring it back to the station and wait a half an hour or 40 minutes for it to develop.

And you developed it yourself.

You turn something, wouldnt you turn something?

I didn't develop it myself.

Oh yeah.

We were advanced at KAKE TV.

We had this big processing machine that you put it in and it developed.

And then 30, as you say, 30 or 40 minutes, it came out and it was wonderful.

And we put it on TV.

Thats right.

All right.

Okay.

We're going to give you another golden oldie.

I love these oldies.

This one from also 1977.

It's about Lois Scheufler of Stirling.

She created Works of Art that were classically Kansas.

You'll see why.

Take a look.

These decorations are made of wheat.

Plain, old, everyday Kansas wheat.

They are intricate, surprisingly sturdy, and are the work of a group of weavers working for and with Lois Scheufler of rural Sterling, Kansas.

Wheat weaving is an ancient Egyptian art rediscovered in the fifties and revived by an English man.

Lois Scheufler finds the art almost the love of her life.

I just couldn't believe that you could take those straws that we walk on and make something so pretty out of it.

We always thought of it as being so fragile, but after we soak it well, it'll bend just beautifully.

Just beautiful.

Friends from surrounding communities have taken classes under Lois Scheufler and are finding their work in great demand.

So now a small business has developed that keeps those who are talented in egg money, as Mrs. Scheufler put it.

But it's not a project that's easy to learn, especially to those who have little patience.

Well, I just tell people, if you're a little bit old, it's harder.

And if you have a little arthritis, it's just about you can't hardly do it.

Otherwise.

If you have patience, it's for you.

You can do it.

You just have to be taught.

And it's very tedious.

The word for wheat weaving is tedious.

So you have to have patience.

The wheat Lois uses is cut a week or so before harvest.

Every part of the wheat stalk is used except the leaves.

The weavers are limited only by their imagination, and they design everything from necklaces to earrings.

And it's all out of wheat.

Even some men have become intrigued with the magic their fingers can do with the grain stock, and with the low price of wheat, at least weaving can make the wheat worth something.

For Lois Scheufler, she'd rather be weaving than doing almost anything else.

Well, it just beats housework all day.

So, from grain stalk to art object, the Kansas wheat weavers are once again proving that ingenuity and patience are trademarks of the Kansas farmer.

This is Larry Hatteberg.

Lois was an inspiration to many younger artists who have carried on her love of wheat art.

In fact, the National Association of Wheat Weavers is based right here in Kansas and often holds its annual conventions right here in Wichita.

I used to love wheat art.

It was so popular in the eighties and nineties.

I used to go to the Kansas State Fair and just buy up a ton of wheat art.

Sure.

It was difficult to do.

Yeah.

You know, you can't just go out there and get some wheat off the off the stem and go out there and say, I'm going to make this wheat art.

You have to be a real artist to do it.

The good news is it's so representative of Kansas, and those of us who are proud of the state, we like to send those to other people, you know, and we hope they appreciate it as much as well.

Exactly.

I still have a couple of those are tucked away in boxes.

I think I might bring them out and hang them in my kitchen.

You should.

I'm just inspired now.

Well, good for you.

Okay.

We do have one more story to show you.

This one is about someone whos close to a lot of our hearts, including Larry and I.

This story is about Ken Lockwood.

Ken was well known in the Wichita area for his love of animals.

His great mission in life was to care for and rehabilitate injured birds.

Ken and his wife, Susan spent thousands of their own dollars building the Eagle Valley Raptor Center that was out near Cheney.

But in 2005, it was in danger of closing.

Right now, we're stretched beyond our limits, and that is the problem.

Ken and Susan Lockwood have spent thousands of dollars putting the Eagle Valley Raptor Center together.

My wife, Susan and I, we fund this totally on our own and we never like to tell anybody no, anybody, anybody that calls us with an injured or ophaned bird.

You know, we take it.

If we get the word out, maybe we can get the support we need to help maintain the place and to keep it here.

It is here they work with veterinarians, wildlife agencies and others to rehabilitate these birds of prey like this bald eagle.

Hes just becoming a mature bird.

He got his white head and tail this year, as you can see in his left wing, he was shot.

To be able to take one and get it, to trust you, to work with you, there's no greater joy.

But that joy could be short lived.

Despite building a shelter where they can provide programs for groups plus expensive public bathrooms and this huge facility to house the birds, money simply isn't coming in.

The whole point of doing this, like I said, is not to make money.

Perch.

Perch.

Good boy.

We would like it to be self-sustaining.

Just to be able to pay for itself.

But we do this simply because we just love working with these animals.

Ken works a night job just to keep the money coming in.

Food and veterinary costs for the birds are high.

The Lockwoods also do programs for schools and community groups teaching them about birds of prey.

And we can continue to do this as long as we get the donations that help us survive to help us to keep this going.

For something so tiny.

To trust something so big to him.

You know, it's it's just a really neat feeling.

The question is, can they keep this place open?

Well, without grants or subsidies, probably not.

Ken notified many of the volunteers and supporters of the fact that he may have to shut it down unless support is forthcoming.

It would just be the ultimate devastation.

That would be that would be the worst.

Saving these majestic birds is difficult and expensive, and it's an endeavor that, for Ken and Susan Lockwood, is now down to a wing and a prayer.

Good boy.

Fortunately, prayers were answered and Ken and Susan were able to keep the Raptor Center going.

In recent years, Ken had health problems, but he still did what he could to help all of those injured birds and educate people about them.

Then in June 2023, he passed away.

And I used to love to go out to the Raptor Center, and you'd see these he had these big buildings built out there so the birds could fly inside these huge buildings.

And it was just fascinating to see an eagle or a hawk up close.

You know, because there's no no other way to do it.

And he was very dedicated to it.

He did amazing things out there he did to keep those birds comfortable.

The injured birds that were brought in to his center to be rehabilitated.

He did amazing things I'll never forget and I can't remember how many years ago it was.

But he had rescued a injured owl.

But it was time to he in the hospital or his his rehabilitation center.

And he got him well got him everything.

And it was time to let him go.

He called my husband and I and said, Do you want to be the one to put them on your hand and let him go?

It was incredible.

So we went out there.

Of course, we had a big glove on, which I'm sure you saw big glove and let the owl go and it was wonderful.

And Wichita, very, very lucky to have had him in our presence for so long.

Yeah.

What you did was an experience of a lifetime, and he did that for many other people.

He really did.

Yeah.

And it's a great memory to have.

And we're going to miss him.

We're going to miss him.

May he rest in peace.

God bless his soul.

And he just died about a month and a half ago.

And we want you to know, Ken, we will never forget you.

If you have a question or comment about Hattebergs People, send us an email.

It is always good to hear from you.

Thank you for watching.

I'm Susan Peters.

And I'm Larry Hatteberg.

Take care.

We will see you again very soon.