COMING UP ON THE HEADLINE HUMBOLDT LISA DUGAN FROM THE McKINLEYVILLE MUNICIPAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT CITY WHO HAD FOR ONE OF THE LARGEST COMMUNITIES ON THE WELCOME.

WHY IT WILL HAVE TO WAIT.

WHY LONG RUNNING AND HIGHLY TOUTED PLANS OFF OF THE COAST OF HUMBOLDT COUNTY.

WE'LL FIND OUT NOW COMING UP ON HEADLINE HUMBOLDT.

>> THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF EMOTION BUT ALSO A CRITICAL LACK OF INFORMATION REGARDING WHETHER IN CORPORATION IS A VIABLE OPTION.

>> IN CORPORATION WILL SHAPE McKINLEYVILLE INTO ITS A DISTINCT COMMUNITY.

CURRENT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT MANAGES MOST OF THE McKINLEYVILLE'S AFFAIRS.

FOR EXAMPLE THE SHERIFF NOT THE POLICE PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT USES.

CITY GOVERNMENT GOVERNS LAND USE.

HAVE EXPRESSED IN OF KIB THAT THE IN CORPING AS A CITY POSES FINANCIAL AND OTHER IMPACTS OF THE RESIDENTS OF PROPOSED NEW CITY AND ADJACENT COMMUNITIES AND THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

CONDUCTED BY AN INDEPENDENT AND NEUTRAL PARTY.

SO RESIDENTS CAN KNOW HOW THESE IMPACTS WILL AFFECT THEM.

WHILE THE KAULINGSS OF A FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS HUMBOLDT'S ALSO KNOWN AS LAFCO IT MAY COST $60,000 OR MORE.

THE COUNTY IS BEING FACING A FISCAL SHORTFALL OF MORE THAN $17 MILLION IN 23-24 >> I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ITEM CAME WELL AFTER THE BUDGET PROCESS BEGAN AND IS NOT PART OF THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.

IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE THERE'S NO MONEY IN THE YEAR.

McKINLEYVILLE IS THE THIRD POPULATED.

THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE INFORMATION THAT WE KNOW NOW THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE SOON TO HOPEFULLY BE TOWN CENTER ORDINANCE WILL ALLOW FOR GREATER DENSITY THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

THE SIT RUN SEE HAS McMAC ORR AND OVER AGAIN IDENTIFIED WANTS TO RETAIN ITS RURAL CHARACTER.

THE WAY IT'S BEEN DESIGNED IS A REFLECTION TO HAVE THE SELF-DETERMINATION.

IF THE COMMUNITY OF McKINLEYVILLE WAS INCORPORATING.

REVENUE NEUTRALITY IS ONE OF THE DIFFICULT PARTS IN INCORPORATING A NEW CITY IS A DIFFICULT FOR NEW CITIES DO NOT GET A SHARE OF THE VEHICLE LICENSE FEES WHICH OTHER INCORPORATED CITIES GET.

THERE'S A LOT OF TALK IN THE LEGISLATIVE TO OUR LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES THAT WHETHER IT'S LEGISLATION THAT JUST SIMPLY ALLOWS McMAC TO BE ABLE TO GET VEHICLE LICENSEES OR WHETHER IT'S A STATEWIDE EFFORT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO MOVING FORWARD AS WELL.

>> COUNTY SUPERVISORS DECIDED NOT TO FUND THE IN CORPORATION FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WITH ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AFTER THE BREAK.

WELL KIMLEY SAW.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> TALKING ABOUT INCORPORATING McKINLEYVILLE.

OBVIOUSLY THAT'S BEEN A QUESTION IN THE ETHER IN HUMBOLDT COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME.

THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMMUNITIES IN HUMBOLDT COUNTY AND IT'S CONTINUING TO GROW.

SO LET'S BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.

THE McMAC CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THAT COMMITTEE IS AND HOW IT CAME TO BE AND WHAT YOUR ROLE IS ON IT.

>> I TRY TO GET THE ROLE OF THAT.

McMAC STANDS FOR THE McKINLEYVILLE MUNICIPAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND BECAUSE WE ARE AN IN CORPORATED LARGE AREA WHAT THE CHARGE IS BEING IN CONNECTION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND BEING THAT SOUNDING BOARD AND THAT VOICE.

SO WE ADVISE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO McKINLEYVILLE.

WE ALSO ARE THERE TO ADVISE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION TOO ON NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC ZONING OR >> APPROVALS OR WHATEVER.

>> BUT IN GENERAL.

THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE COMMUNITY.

WE WERE ESTABLISHED I BELIEVE IN THE EARLY 2010s MAYBE 2012.

BUT IT CAME OUT OF THE McKINLEYVILLE COMMUNITY PLAN OUT OF 2022.

I BELIEVE THAT SUPERVISOR SUN BURG WHO GOT IT STARTED.

>> THAT THE PARTICULAR COMMITTEE IS NOT IN CORPORATION CENTRIC.

>> CORRECT.

>> IT'S ABOUT ALL OF THE McKINLEYVILLE'S ISSUES AND FUNCTIONS AS A FURTHER REPRESENTATION.

>> EXACTLY.

>> WHAT THE GENESIS OF THIS CURRENT DISCUSSION WAS THAT THE GRAND JURY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO CONDUCT A FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS TO LOOK INTO CITYHOOD FOR McKINLEYVILLE.

THEN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DECIDED NO.

IT WASN'T PROBABLY WAS IN THE CARDS FOR THIS YEAR.

>> THIS ACTUALLY STARTED THE MOST RECENT CONVERSATION ABOUT IN CORPORATION STARTED BACK IN THE FALL OF LAST YEAR WHEN CITIZENS BROUGHT A COALITION TO A PRESENTATION THAT SHOWED WHY IN CORPORATION WAS SO DIFFICULT HAVING TO DO WITH THE FUNDING AND THE FUNDING WITH THE CEQA AND THE VLF.

>> CEQA IS THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.

>> THAT PIQUED THE COMMUNITY'S ITS CURIOSITY.

THE McMAC STARTED RESEARCHING IN CORPORATION TO EXPLORE BUT NOT NECESSARILY PRO OR FOR IT.

MAYBE IN THE 1960s EVEN.

IT KEEPS DYING UP AND COMES UP.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW TO MOVE THIS FORWARD OR TO HAVE THE ANSWER AND HAVE IT GO AWAY.

AND YOUR QUESTION I'M WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS.

>> IT WASN'T REALLY A SURPRISE WHY THEY DIDN'T FUND IT.

>> SO HAVING HAVING WORKED IN THE COUNTY I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THEIR BUDGET PROCESS.

AND WHILE IT WAS REALLY GREAT THAT THE GRAND JURY SHED LIGHT ON THE WORK THAT THE McMAC IS DOING, THE TIMING WASN'T GREAT AND OUR RESPONSE DIDN'T ADDRESS TIMING.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE TIMING PIECE.

BASICALLY WE WENT IN THERE THIS IS MID BUDGET CYCLE.

THE COUNTY HAS GOT A $17 MILLION DEFICIT.

AND OUCH >> AND THEN THE TIMING WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY BE GOOD FOR ASKING FOR FUNDS.

>> WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST HURDLES FOR A COMMUNITY FOR McKINLEYVILLE TO BECOME A CITY.

>> IT'S QUITE A PROCESS.

A LOT OF IT COMES DOWN TO FUNDING.

IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO BECOME A CITY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SEQUEL ANALYSIS.

YOU DID GOOD WITH THE ACRONYMS EARLIER.

>> THERE'S QUESTIONS BECAUSE THERE'S NO SHOVELS HITTING THE GROUND.

THERE'S A HEADQUARTER DULL.

THERE WOULD BE NO VEHICLE LICENSING FEES TO NEW CITIES.

SO THERE'S A GROUPS CALIFORNIA INCORPORATED THAT'S LOOKING INTO THIS AND LOOKING AT HOW OTHER PLACES IN CALIFORNIA MAY GET THROUGH THANKS HURDLES TO LESSEN THOSE HURDLES.

>> WHEN YOU BRING THIS QUESTION TO PEOPLE WHAT KIND OF RESPONSES ARE YOU GETTING.

>> I'M KIND OF SURPRISED IN A LOT OF PEOPLE YEAH IN CORPORATION WOULD BE A GREAT THING.

HERE'S WHY.

SO THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF -- WELL AS >> Kevin: JENKINS EXPRESSED TO THE COMMITTEE THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF EMOTION TO IT.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA.

WE DON'T HAVE THE FACTS.

WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHETHER McKINLEYVILLE WOULD PENCIL OUT.

>> YEAH.

IN TERMS OF KIND OF LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT THERE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

HOW DO YOU THINK PEOPLE IN McKINLEYVILLE WOULD BENEFIT FROM BECOMING A CITY.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE IN THE COUNTY.

WOULD THERE BE ANY MEASURABLE DIFFERENCE IN McKINLEYVILLE BECOMING A CITY.

>> WELL HOPEFULLY.

>> EXACTLY THERE WOULD BE SOME BENEFIT.

RIGHT NOW, McKINLEYVILLE IS PRETTY UNDERREPRESENTED.

WE HAVE ONE PERSON ON A BOARD OF FIVE THAT LOOKS OUT FOR McKINLEYVILLE, AND THE REST OF HIS DISTRICT.

>> NORTHERN HUMBOLDT AND WILL CREEK.

AND WE'RE BECOMING MORE AND PORE POPULIST.

THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE WITH ALL OF THE THINGS POPPING UP IN McKINLEYVILLE.

WILL THAT -- WILL WE BE MORE OF A DRAIN ON THE COUNTY SERVICE THAN WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR US IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE'RE GROWING.

POTENTIALLY QUICKLY.

SO THERE'S THAT.

THERE'S THE FACT THAT CITIES HAVE ACCESS TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUNDING.

STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING THAT MAY BE MORE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY.

THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'VE BEEN WORKING IS THE CITY CENTER PROJECT OR THE McKINLEYVILLE CITY CENTER TOWN CENTER.

>> GOT TO WATCH MY LANGUAGE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THAT'S NOT LINKED NECESSARILY WITH THE CITYHOOD.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CREATE A SENSE OF THE TOWN AND THE IDENTITY WITHOUT NECESSARILY JUMPING THROUGH THE LEGAL HOOPS.

>> AND GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

I THINK THAT'S BEEN BEFORE THE McMAC FOR SOMEWHERE IN THE AREA OF THREE YEARS.

I'VE BEEN ON FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

AND ALSO SUPPORTIVE RESOURCES THAT THE CLERK OF THE BOARD AND THEY'VE BEEN SUPER HELPFUL AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY DRAINING THOSE RESOURCES AT THE SAME TIME.

>> WHAT ARE YOU HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE TOWN CENTER.

>> A SENSE OF McKINLEYVILLE.

WE KNOW THAT McKINLEYVILLE IS A REGIONAL HOUSING REQUIREMENTS THAT THE STATE HAS.

>> YEAH.

FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

>> EXACTLY.

A LOT OF THE HOUSING IS EXPECTED TO GO IN McKINLEYVILLE.

AND SO TO DO THAT IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE THAT DOESN'T SPRAWL OUT IN ALL OF THE BEAUTIFUL AREAS TO DAU 12R0I OUR RURAL CHARACTER.

IT'S DENSE ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK AND USE ALTERNATE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION AND FEEL SAFE AND GET TO ALL OF THEIR NEEDS.

THE SHOPS THAT ARE WITHIN WALKING DINS THAN OPPORTUNITIES.

SO A ZONING UNIT THAT IS MULTIPLE USE.

SO THERE CAN BE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND A SMALL STORES ON THE BOTTOM AND TRANSIT HUB THAT WOULD KECKES TO OTHER PLACES OF THE CITY.

WHERE THERE'S A THERE.

>> PEOPLE 30 ABOUT THE TOTEM POLE.

>> THAT'S WITHIN IT.

SO THE TOWN CENTER ITSELF IF I CAN DESCRIBE THIS.

IT'S THE PIECE OF CENTRAL AVENUE WHERE THERE IS THE PEARSON SHOPPING CENTER.

ON THE EAST SIDE THERE IS PEARSON PARK.

AND THEN THERE'S HILLER THERE'S A PIECE THERE AS WELL.

THAT IS THE PRIMARY AREA THAT THEY'RE CALLING THE TOWN CENTER.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS Q ZONE THAT WOULD BE THE ORDINANCE OVER LAID ON TOP OF IT.

>> THE Q ZONE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

>> ALPHABET SOUP.

>> YES.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRIKES ME FROM BEING OUTSIDE OF McKINLEYVILLE.

BUT IT SEEMS FOR THAT A CITY THAT'S BURGEONING HAVE A SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SERVE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT IS NOT IDEAL.

IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT.

DO YOU FIND THAT PEOPLE HAVE THAT AS A CONCERN.

>> SAFETY IS ALWAYS A CONCERN IN McKINLEYVILLE.

I'M A MODERATOR FOR THE McKINLEYVILLE WATCH PAGE.

THAT COMES UP ALONG WITH THE SPEED ON THE CENTRAL AVENUE ARE SAFETY CONCERNS.

THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN, AND YEAH.

IT'S TOUGH FOR THE SHERIFF TO BE IN ALL PLACES ALL THE TIME.

THAT EBBS AND FLOWS.

I THINK WE'VE HAD GOOD SERVICE FROM THE SHERIFF.

IF WE BECAME A CITY THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS WHAT WE MIGHT DO FOR A POLICE FORCE.

WE MAY CONTINUE TO CONTRACT FOR SERVICE WITH THE SHERIFF'S.

>> THAT COULD HAPPEN EVEN IF YOU WERE A CITY.

>> EXACTLY.

FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN ESTABLISH OUR OWN AT SOME POINT.

I SEE THAT HAPPENING A BIT DOWN THE ROAD.

>> BESIDES I MEAN THE POLICE ISSUE YOU MENTIONED THAT MONEY SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE MAIN HURDLE.

PROVIDING FUNDING FOR THE CITY IN ORDER TO CONDUCT BUSINESS.

ALSO THE POTENTIAL HIT ON THE COUNTY IF McKINLEYVILLE WAS REMOVED FROM ITS TAX ROLLS.

IS THE COUNTY DIDN'T UNT ON McKINLEYVILLE IN AN UNHEALTHY IN FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

>> THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESOURCES PROVIDED FOR THAT FUNDING.

THERE WOULD BE IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN THERE WOULD BE FEWER RESOURCES TO EXPEND IN McKINLEYVILLE.

AND THAT'S THAT NEGOTIATION THAT WOULD HAPPEN BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE NEW CITY OF HOW MUCH WOULD BE PAID OUT TO THE COUNTY.

BUT WE WOULD MOST LIKELY NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT NOW ARE THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY NO LONGER NEEDS TO PROVIDE IN McKINLEYVILLE,AND WHAT MAKES SENSE.

WHAT IS EQUITABLE EXCHANGE OF RESOURCES AND PAYMENT FOR THAT RESOURCE.

>> I WAS UNAWARE THAT OF THE VEHICLE LICENSE FEE.

LIKE TAKING TAKING VEHICLE LICENSE FEES AWAY FROM NEW CITIES AS IF NEW CITIES DON'T NEED THE MONEY.

>> YOU THINK WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD ALARM FOLKS.

BUT IN TERMS OF WHERE THE MONEY WOULD COME FROM TO FUND THE CITY IN THE WAY IT WORKS WITHIN THE BUDGET SYSTEM A LOT OF IT IS SALES TAX.

>> I THINK SO.

>> AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND I THINK THAT'S THE CASE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE WHAT THE HIT WOULD BE TO THE COUNTY.

>> I DON'T.

I MAY HAVE SEEN THAT BUT CAL POLLY HUMBOLDT.

SO PEOPLE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

WITH LIKE CITIES AND WHAT THE FUNDING WAS NEEDED AND KIND OF LOOKED AT WHAT THE SALES TAX MIGHT BE.

>> SO THEY DID INITIAL SHOT.

IT'S NOWHERE NEAR THE FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS THAT'S NEEDED.

IT'S WITH SOME DATA TO HELP INFORM THE PROCESS.

>> YEAH.

WHAT DO YOU THINK HOW THE SUPERVISORS REACTED TO THE PRESENTATION AND THEIR THOUGHTS?

>> ACTUALLY I WAS SURPRISED AT THE POSITIVITY.

>> I BELIEVE EVERYBODY REALLY GAVE IT A NOD.

UNDER MIKE WILSON SAID THAT SELF-DETERMINATION FOR McKINLEYVILLE COULD MEAN A MORE VIBRANT McKINLEYVILLE.

THAT'S ABOUT SUPERVISOR MADRONE HAS BEEN ALL ALONG WHAT McKINLEYVILLE WANTS.

AND I HEARD THAT FROM SUPERVISOR BONE ON TUESDAY AS WELL.

>> SEEMS LIKE IT'S A UNANIMOUS SENTIMENT.

>> YEAH.

IF MONEY WEREN'T THE OBJECT SURE GO RIGHT AHEAD.

>> THAT'S ALWAYS THE RUB.

>> ALWAYS THE MONEY.

I'M HOPEFUL BASED ON THEIR REACTION THAT THIS ISN'T A DEAD CONVERSATION.

>> YEAH.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK IS DRIVING ALL OF THE GROWTH IN McKINLEYVILLE.

YOU LIVE THERE.

>> I DO LIVE THERE.

>> IT'S BEEN BURGEONING.

THEY BOTH ARE GROWING A LOT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT McKINLEYVILLE BOTH IN TERMS OF ITS PHYSICAL GEOGRAPHY AND ITS CHARACTER THAT'S EXACERBATING THE GROWTH.

>> WIDE OPEN SPACES JUST NORTH OF ARCATA.

>> NOT JUST STUDENT POPULATION BUT STAFF FROM HUMBOLDT STATE CAL POLY.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE EXPANDING.

THERE IN LIES ONE OF THE PRONGS OF INCREASED FUTURE GROWTH.

>> I MOVED FROM ARCATA ABOUT 14 YEARS AGO.

AND I FOUND I REALLY LIKED McKINLEYVILLE.

YEAH, IT'S A NICE PLACE TO BE.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS LIKE THE WIND PROJECT THAT WILL NEED MORE HOUSING AND WITH McKINLEYVILLE BEING A TOWN CENTER AND BEING PART OF THE COUNTY'S LOW-INCOME HOUSING SOLUTION I THINK THAT AS WELL IS GOING TO INSTILL SPACE THAT THERE'S PLACES TO BUILD WHERE THERE'S GEOGRAPHICALLY IN HUMBOLDT.

>> IT'S ALL INFILL OR NOT.

THEN PEOPLE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE SPACE TO BUILD HOUSING THAT WILL FILL SOME OF THE RELIEF.

>> WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS OF THE M CSD.

AND THEY'VE BEEN ACTIVE AND THEY DID DO A RESPONSE TO THE GRAND JURY IT MADE A LOT OF SENSE.

IT WAS VERY LOGICAL LOOKING AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THEY FELT WAS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.

WHAT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE CK 2346CK AND WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THINGS.

AND SO THEY'RE JUST THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THIS IS DONE IT'S DONE THE RIGHT WELL.

THE FINANCING PIECE AS WELL AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE IS ADDRESSED.

>> YOUR ROLE IS AN ADJUDICATOR YOU'RE GATHERING INFORMATION AND YOU'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION.

YOU'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE ALL OF THE ANSWERS FOR THE PEOPLE.

>> EXACTLY.

>> PERSONALLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN OPINION.

ARE YOU ALLOWED TO SAY THAT.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED.

>> THE FLOOR OPENS UP AND DROPS.

>> NO, THAT'S NOT GOOD.

>> WELL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME THINGS HAPPEN IN McKINLEYVILLE THAT MAKE IT MORE VIBRANT.

I THINK McKINLEYVILLE IS A ALREADY A GREAT PLACE OR I WOULDN'T BE LIVING THERE.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE TOWN CENTER WITH THE PRESERVATION OF THE WETLANDS.

MAKING A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO ELSEWHERE TO GO SHOPPING.

IT'S MORE OF A DESTINATION PLACE FOR MY KIDS AND MY GRANDKIDS AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S IN THE COMMUNITY.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

IN CORPORATION I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME TO BE TALKING ABOUT.

WE'RE MAKING ALL OF THESE PLANS THAT ARE GOING TO INCREASE OUR GROWTH.

DON'T WE WANT TO DO THAT IN A SMART WAY.

MAYBE IN CORPORATION IS THE WAY TO DO THAT.

MAYBE THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVE WAYS THAT AREN'T QUITE AS EXPENSIVE OR CONVOLUTED.

THIS IS A LONG COMPLICATED PROCESS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN WHETHER THAT'S IN CORPORATION OR WE START DEVILLING HOW DO WE BECOME THE PLACE WE WANT TO BECOME.

OR AND CREATE THE VIBRANT FUTURE HERE FOR BUSINESSES, FOR 23578 LAES.

SO IF IN CORPORATION DOESN'T HAPPEN McMAC MIGHT BE LOOKING AT OTHER AVENUES.

>> IT'S INTERESTING TO ME.

YOU SAY THAT THE PEOPLE ASK McKINLEYVILLE.

RIGHT AWAY EUREKA OR ARCATA.

IF YOU'RE NOT FROM A TOWN YOU HAVE THIS PEOPLE FROM McKINLEYVILLE ARE FROM McKINLEYVILLE.

TO ME THERE'S A CITY WHO HAD IMPLIED BY THE WAY THAT PEOPLE SAY THEY'RE FROM McKINLEYVILLE.

IT'S AMAZING THAT THEY DON'T LIVE IN A CITY.

>> EXACTLY RIGHT.

IT'S ANOTHER CAUSE FOR REFORM THAT THIS WHOLE LAFCO WHERE IT BECOMES SO PROBLEMATIC TO CONSIDER THE QUESTION.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE AN OBVIOUS AND EASY CHOICE FOR COMMUNITIES THAT WANT TO MAKE THAT CHOICE.

>> WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS.

WE KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE.

AND IT TAKES A LOT OF HOOPS TO JUMP TO.

WE'VE HAD LAFCO TO GUIDE US UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT AND WHAT COMES NEXT.

>> THEY'RE ON BOARD AND EVERYONE IS MOVING AHEAD.

>> JESSE MILES FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SITS IN ON THE MEETINGS.

SO THERE'S INTERESTED PEOPLE WHO'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

WE'D LIKE CONSIDER OVER THE LINE WHICH WOULD BE GETTING THE INITIAL FEASIBLE ANALYSIS OR STUDY SO THE PEOPLE FROM McKINLEYVILLE TO SAY IN CORPORATION IS THE WAY TO GO OR NO THIS ISN'T FOR US.

>> WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

COME BACK IF THIS COMES FORWARD.

IF THE FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS GETS DONE I'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE SHOW.

WE'LL BE BACK AFTER THIS SHORT BREAK.

>> REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES KICK OFF THIS WEDNESDAY.

YAY.

TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF ENERGY ALTERNATIVES TO OIL GAS AND NATURAL COAL THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TO POWER A MILLION HOMES.

SOME LOCAL RESIDENTS WONDER WHETHER A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT WOULD DERAIL THAT ROLE.

>> SO YOU'VE GOT RIGHT NOW FIVE COMPANIES THAT HAVE BID THREE-QUARTERS FOR FIVE SUBAREAS.

OFF THE EAST COAST WIND TURBINES ARE UNDER WAY.

I THINK I9 WOULD BE VERY HARD TO UNDO.

FOR $250 MILLION GRANT TO BUILD A TERMINAL TO SUPPORT THE WIND FARM.

THE ORANGE SLIME FOUND CLOUDING HAS BEEN TESTED AND IT'S NOT TOXIC.

LOCAL AND STATE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICIALS CONFIRMED AFTER SAMPLES WERE SENT TO THE LABORATORY.

THE GOO WAS NONTOXIC A RYED TIDE.

THE FAU NAU PHENOMENON APPEARS SUBSIDED.

PEOPLE NEED TO REMAIN CAUTIOUS.

PEOPLE KEEP AN OUT AND WITH THE SINO BACK TO YOU AND THE WARNINGS COME OUT