COMING UP ON NEXT HEADLINE HUMBOLDT, AFTER HEARING AN UPDATE ON THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS PEOPLE IN HUMBOLDT COUNTY, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONSIDERS A LETTER OF CONCERN TO SAN FRANCISCO ABOUT A PROGRAM THERE TO SHIP HOMELESS FOLKS HERE.

ALSO, WE SIT DOWN WITH ACTIVISTS GIGI HYDEN AND AMY DAY TO TALK ABOUT A SERIES OF DOCUMENTARIES SET TO RUN IN ARCATA THAT HELP TELL THE PALESTINIAN STORY AND DECONSTRUCT THE ISSUES AND PREJUDICE THAT LED TO THE ONGOING WAR IN GAZA.

COMING UP NOW ON HEADLINE HUMBOLDT.

FROM THE TOP OF HUMBOLDT HILL, THIS IS HEADLINE HUMBOLDT.

I'M JAMES FAULK.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

HISTORY JUST KEEPS ON HAPPENING, DOESN'T IT?

IN 2009, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO OBTAIN TICKETS TO PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA'S INAUGURATION.

I FLEW OUT ON A PACKED PLANE, STAYED AT THE HOUSE OF A COWORKERS' FAMILY SINCE ALL THE HOTELS WERE SOLD OUT, AND STOOD IN LINE FOR SIX HOURS TO TAKE MY SEAT.

IT WAS SO COLD I HAD THOSE CHEMICAL WARMER PACKETS STUFFED IN THE POCKETS AND SLEEVES OF MY THICK WOOL JACKET, ONE I HAD PURCHASED JUST FOR THE TRIP.

A FEW HOURS LATER, I WITNESSED HISTORY WHEN THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT EVER WAS SWORN IN AND DELIVERED A ROUSING AND PASSIONATE SPEECH ABOUT HOPE AND HISTORY.

THIS WEEK, KEET'S GENERAL MANAGER DAVID GORDON IS IN CHICAGO, ATTENDING THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION THERE AND HIMSELF WITNESSING HISTORY.

THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN TO BE NOMINATED FOR PRESIDENT BY A MAJOR POLITICAL PARTY.

THE ENERGY, HE SAYS, WAS HIGH, AND FOLKS WERE ELATED TO ONCE AGAIN BE MAKING HISTORY.

[INDISCERNABLE] [APPLAUSE] [CHANTING] [MUSIC] WE'LL FEATURE MORE FROM HIS TRIP ON NEXT WEEK'S SHOW.

NOMINATING KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT, AND TURNING THE CORNER ON THE PAST EIGHT YEARS OF CONFLICT AND DIVISION, SEEMS LIKE JUST THE POTENT PALATE CLEANSER WE NEED AS A COUNTRY TO SQUARE UP FOR THIS NEXT ELECTION AND MAKE A RATIONAL CHOICE.

IT'S IN TIMES LIKE THESE, WHICH HAVE GROWN INCREASINGLY RARE, THAT WE CAN REMEMBER THE PROMISE OF AMERICA, AND THE POTENCY OF THE AMERICAN DREAM.

NOT EVERYONE HAS IT SO EASY - AS WE'LL LEARN LATER IN THE SHOW WHEN WE INTERVIEW ACTIVISTS GIGI HYDEN AND AMY DAY ABOUT THE WAR IN GAZA AND A SERIES OF FILMS ABOUT THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE SET TO RUN IN ARCATA OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

BUT FIRST, THE NEWS.

AFTER HEARING A REPORT FROM STAFF ON THE CHANGING NUMBER OF HOMELESS IN HUMBOLDT COUNTY, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONSIDERED SENDING A LETTER TO SAN FRANCISCO'S MAYOR TO LIMIT ANOTHER POTENTIAL INFLUX.

THE BOARD WAS TOLD THAT THERE ARE CURRENTLY 1,573 HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY, WHICH IS MORE THAN A 4 PERCENT DECREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS 2022 POINT-IN-TIME SURVEY.

IT'S A 7.6 PERCENT DECLINE FROM 2019.

OUT OF MORE THAN 1,500 TOTAL, 551 ARE CONSIDERED CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, AND ONLY ABOUT 412 OUT OF 1,400 ADULTS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE MENTALLY ILL. ABOUT 485 OF THOSE FOLKS REPORTED A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER.

FOR UNKNOWN REASONS, THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS VETERANS HAS DRASTICALLY DECLINED THIS YEAR, WITH ONLY 87 INCLUDED IN THE COUNT.

INDIGENOUS PEOPLE MAKE UP 13.67 PERCENT OF THE COUNTY'S HOMELESS POPULATION, MORE THAN TWICE ITS SIZE IN THE GENERAL POPULATION.

EUREKA'S NUMBERS OVERALL, AS WELL AS THOSE IN SOUTHERN HUMBOLDT, WERE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY FROM PREVIOUS COUNTS, WHILE ARCATA'S NUMBERS ARE HIGHER.

IN ADDITION TO HEARING THE NUMBERS, THE BOARD CONSIDERED SENDING A LETTER TO SAN FRANCISCO OFFICIALS ABOUT A PROGRAM REPORTED IN THE SAN FRANCISCO STANDARD THAT BUSES HOMELESS PEOPLE TO HUMBOLDT COUNTY AND OTHER PLACES.

THE LETTER CLAIMS THAT THE JOURNEY HOME PROGRAM SENDS FOLKS HERE WITHOUT DOING ENOUGH TO PROVE THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO HOUSING, SUPPORT, OR A JOB ONCE THEY ARRIVE.

HUMBOLDT COUNTY HAS A TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND SAN FRANCISCO ONLY RECENTLY ENDED ITS HOMEWARD BOUND PROGRAM.

THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SUPERVISOR REX BOHN SAID.

>> AND THEY HAVE THAT UP UNTIL 10 MONTHS 11 MONTHS AGO.

THEY RAN FROM 2005 TO 2023.

AND THEY ACTUALLY ASSISTED 11,300 PEOPLE TO GO HOME.

AND THAT PROGRAM AS WE KNOW STAFF TAKES TIME AND COSTS MONEY.

BUT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE SURE SENDING THE PERSON TO WHEREVER HADN'T COMMITTED A SERIOUS CRIME AND HAD FAMILY MEMBERS AND ALONG THOSE LINES, AND 10 MONTHS AGO IT WAS REPLACED WITH THE JOURNEY HOME PROGRAM ALL YOU HAVE I HAVE TO GO HERE AND YOU GET A BUS TICKET.

AND NO OTHER SERVICES.

I APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TO.

THEY'RE GIVING THEM OPTION IF THEY'RE ARRESTED THEY'RE GIVING THEM THAT OPTION RATHER THAN JAIL.

SO I'M MANY THINKING LEAVING TOWN IF IT'S BEHIND BARS.

>> SO WHAT I MY IMMEDIATE RESPONSE WHAT'S THE SAN FRANCISCO STANDARD.

IT TURNEDS OUT IS A FOUNDED BY BILLIONAIRES.

WE HAD A ONE OF THOSE PUBLICATIONS IN OUR IN HUMBOLDT.

NOT TO SAY THAT'S IN ANY WAY.

I HAD NEVER HEARD OF IT AS ABSENCE AN PUBLIC KAX.

AND IT DOES HAVE A READERSHIP IN THE BAY AREA.

AND THEN I SEE SOME NEW CURVING WITH CONVERSATION WITH SAN FRANCISCO'S DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COUNTERPARTS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO GOT TRANSPORTATION TO HUMBOLDT COUNTY HAD SOME FAMILY OR FRIEND HERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL STEPS THEY HAD TO VET TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE ON THEIR END.

BUT WE HAVE LIKELY SENT PEOPLE ALSO TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO OTHER BIG CITIES AROUND THE STATE.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WHILE I DO WANT MORE INFORMATION AND COLLABORATION WITH OTHER COUNTIES I THINK THAT THE LETTER FROM MY PERSPECTIVE A LITTLE BIT OFOVER KILL.

I WOULDN'T SAY I WAS DISMAYED TO LEARN THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE COMING TO HUMBOLDT COUNTY.

IT LOOKED IN ONE YEAR IT WAS 25 PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND SO YOU KNOW PERHAPS A DISPROPORTION NUTION NUT NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING TO HUMBOLDT COUNTY.

PRESUMABLY THEY HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY HERE IN HUMBOLDT COUNTY.

THE BOARD DECIDED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE LETTER'S WORDING, THEN BRING IT BACK FOR APPROVAL.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THIS JOINING US NOW IN STUDIO ARE ACTIVISTS GIGI AND AMY TO TALK ABOUT AN UPCOMING RUN OF FILMS ON THE PLIGHT OF PALESTINIANS.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

I UNDERSTAND WE'RE IN A TV STAYEDIO.

NOT TOO PERSONAL.

IF YOU GUYS EACH EXPLAIN TO WHAT ABOUT THIS ISSUE DRAWS YOUR PASSION AND MAKES YOU GET INVOLVED MORE THAN OTHER FOLKS BEING A PASSIVE SPECTATOR.

GIGI WHY HAVE YOU GOTTEN MORE INVOLVED AND WHAT ABOUT THIS SITUATION MAKES YOU WANT TO GET TO WORK.

>> YOU KNOW, I CARE DEEPLY WITH HUMAN RIGHTS.

AND I HAVE ALSO KIND OF THROWN MYSELF INTO WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES WHETHER IT'S THE STRUGGLE OF BLACK AMERICANS OR THE QUEER COMMUNITY, OR RIGHT NOW IN THIS MOMENT THE STRUGGLE FOR PALESTINIAN LIBERATION.

I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S A HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE.

AS A HUMAN, AS A MOTHER, AS A WOMAN OF COLOR, IT FEELS IMPOSSIBLE TO JUST SIT BY AND WATCH AND SEE WHAT I'VE SEEN.

WHAT I'VE WITNESSED WITH MY OWN EYES AND NOT BE CATALYZED TO ACTION.

>> EXCELLENT ANSWER.

AND I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS IN THAT REGARD.

AMY CAN YOU TALK WHAT GOT YOU INVOLVED AND WHAT ABOUT THE SITUATION.

SO IM PASSIONING.

>> SO I WITNESSED MY OWN TENDENCY WHAT WE'RE WITNESSING THE LEVEL OF DEVASTATION WE SEE DAILY OVER IN GAZA AND PALESTINE.

MY OWN TENDENCY TENDS TO GO INTO A STATE OF FREEZE.

I THINK I'M NOT ALONE IN THAT.

IT FEELS SO OVERWHELMING.

WE NEED A WAY TO ACTIVATE TO STAY WITH THE DIFFICULTY, AND STAY WITH THE HEARTBREAK.

AND TRANSLATE THAT INTO THE COMPASSION.

THE FELLOWSHIP I SERVE WE HOSTED A SCREENING ONE OF THE FILMS JUST AS A WAY TO KEEP COMING TOGETHER.

WE NEED TO STAY WITH THE DIFFICULTY.

WE NEED TO GIVE EACH OTHER SPACES TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

I WANTED TO STAY OUT OF FREEZE.

I WANTED TO CREATE SPACES WHERE WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME FROM A SPACE OF OVER WELCOME BACK WHERE IT'S ACTION.

>> SO FOLKS CAN LOOK AT THAT.

YOU'RE WITH THE HUMBOLDT UNIVERSALIST FELLOWSHIP.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, AND HOW THE AUDIENCE RESPONDED TO THIS STORY WHICH IS NOT FEATURED IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA.

IT'S TIMELY BECAUSE IT WAS MADE BEFORE PRIOR TO OCTOBER 7TH.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMEWHAT DATED FOOTAGE.

BUT IT GIVES DECENT AMOUNT OF HISTORY.

BUT I THINK ALSO WE'RE GOING INTO HUMAN STORIES.

WHEN YOU'RE SEEING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF NEWS FOOTAGE.

YOU REACH THAT COMPASSION FATIGUE.

THIS BRINGS IT BACK TO THE REALM INSIDE THIS DEEP STRUGGLE, AND IT REAWAKENS OUR EMPATHY.

THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BE ROOTED RIGHT NOW.

>> IT'S AMAZING I'VE HAD AT THIS RE-AWAY KING EMPATHY AND SEEING THE HUMAN SIDE OF THE ISSUES COMES UP.

WE'RE SO IMMUNE TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING ESPECIALLY IN ONE RIGHT NOW ARE IN FACT HUMAN BEINGS AND NEED OUR COMPASSION, AND OFTEN TIGHT IT'S LOST.

GIGI LET'S TALK ABOUT THE POLITICS ABOUT IT.

IN TERMS WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT HAS DONE AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN POLITICALLY HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE ACTIONS THAT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS TAKEN.

DO YOU HAVE HOPE THAT IF KAMALA COMES INTO OFFICE THINGS MIGHT CHANGE.

I AM PERSONALLY ASHAMED EVERY DAY OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND NOT ONLY OUR SUPPORT FOR THIS GENOCIDE THAT WE'RE WITNESSING BUT OUR FINANCIAL BACKING, AND OUR DIRECT INVOLVEMENT.

AND SO WITH THE WAY THAT KAMALA HAS SPOKEN, RECOMMITTING HER UNWAIVERING AND OUR AS A COUNTRY OUR UNWAIVERING SUPPORT TO THE STATE OF ISRAEL, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF HOPE AS FAR AS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.

BUT I ALSO LIKE TO REMEMBER THAT THE U.S. AND THE U.K.

WERE THE LAST STRONGHOLDS TO SUPPORT APARTHEID SOUTH AFRICA AS WELL.

THEY SERVE OUR COUNTRY, AND SO WE WILL BE THE LAST TO FALL IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD ON THIS SUBJECT.

AND IT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE AND HELP THEM HEAR THE TRUTH AND SEE THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

>> NOW AMY YOU'RE WITH THE UNITARIAN UNIVERSAL CYST FELLOWSHIP.

>> WE'RE A FELLOWSHIP.

WE DON'T LIKE TO CALL OURSELF A CHURCH.

>> I LOVE THAT.

BUT JUST FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU HAVE IT OR NOT, THE RELIGIOUS UNDER TONES ARE WHAT DECIDE A LOT OF THIS ISSUE.

I LEARNED IN BIBLE SCHOOL THAT CHRIST WAS BORN IN PALESTINE AND THEREFORE IT'S A HOLY LAND AND WE NEED IT FOR US BECAUSE OF ARMAGEDDON.

I'M NOT LAUGHING AT THE BELIEF.

BUT IT'S LED TO A LOT OF SUFFERING.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT ELEMENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

>> I'M QUESTIONED BECAUSE THIS IS THE TRADITION WE RECEIVED IT IN.

>> YEAH.

>> I MEAN WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.

I THINK IT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DO WITH OTHERING OF SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T SHARE A COMMON HERITAGE, BELIEF OR CULTURE.

EVEN THE QUESTION OF ANTI-SEMITISM.

>> WE WOULD SAY WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR HUMAN RIGHTS.

THIS IS NOT ONE SIDE VERSUS THE OTHER.

THIS IS WE WANT EVERYONE TO LIVE IN A WORLD THAT IS PEACEFUL AND FLOURISHING AND HAS THEIR HOMELAND AVAILABLE TO THEM.

WE'RE ALL OF ONE HOMELAND.

SO I THINK IT'S THAT OTHERING.

AND WHICH IS WHY I'M VERY PART OF THE TRADITION THAT IS NOT CREATAL.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

LET'S COME INTO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN MEET AND LEARN EACH OTHER'S STORIES AND COME INTO A SPACE AND HAVE THESE STORIES TOGETHER.

>> YOUR FELLOWSHIP HAS A HISTORY OF BEING INVOLVED IN A LOT OF SOCIAL CAUSES.

IT'S TO BE COMMENDED.

THANK YOU, AND THANKS TO THOSE FOLKS AS WELL.

>> GIGI YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE MOVIES.

IN TERMS OF FOLKS THAT ARE HERE AND FOLKS WILL BE COMING WHEN THE MOVIES WERE PRESENTED TO GIVE TALKS.

FOR INSTANCE THERE WAS A DOCTOR WHO'S IN PALESTINE WHEN GAZA WAS ATTACKED.

CAN YOU TELL THAT STORY AGAIN FOR US.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE'RE DOING JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW.

WE'RE DOING A SERIES OF THREE FILMS TO START WITH.

CALLED SHINE A LIGHT ON PALESTINIAN.

IT'S TO CREATE A TIMELINE AND TAKE YOU BACK IN TIME WITH OLIVE TREES BEING THE MOST RECENT, AND THAT WAS FILMED LIKE 2022 PRIMARILY IN THE WEST BANK BECAUSE IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO ENTER GAZA.

VERY FEW THINGS ARE FILMED IN GAZA FROM THE OUTSIDE.

AND THEN MOVING TO ROADMAP TO APARTHEID WHICH IS WAS FILMED AROUND 2012 WHEN IT WAS RELEASED, AND I BELIEVE THEY SAID THEY SPENT MANY YEARS FILMING THAT SIX YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN GOING TO 1948 WHICH CAME OUT I BELIEVE 2018 BUT IT TALKS ABOUT THE EARLY HISTORY OF HOW THE CREATION OF THE STATE OF IFRS.

AND SO JUST KIND OF GIVING THAT CONTEXT MOVING BACK AND FOR OUR PANEL WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION PANEL AFTER EACH FILM.

FOR OUR PANEL FOR OLIVE TREES I WILL BE ON THE PANEL AS WELL AS SHIMELAL WHO'S BEEN ON YOUR SHOW BEFORE AND WHO IS BRILL COMPWRUNT.

AND WE HAVE DR. ABDUL WHO IS A GAZAN WHO WAS IN GAZA WORKING IN A HOSPITAL ON OCTOBER 7TH IN THE SUBSEQUENT WEEKS, AND HE ENDED UP FLEEING AFTER HE BURIED OVER 25 FAMILY MEMBERS IN JUST THOSE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

HE LOST HIS FAMILY HOME.

AND HE'S ACTUALLY -- HE'S KIND OF KNOWN AND LOVED IN HUMBOLDT.

HE WAS IN THE LATE 2000s AN EXCHANGE STUDENT AT McKINLEY HIGH.

SO HE'LL BE GIVING HIS PERSPECTIVE ON THAT EXPERIENCE, AND THEN FOR OUR PANEL FOR ROADMAP TO APARTHEID WE'LL HAVE THE DIRECTORS OF THAT FILM WHO BOTH HERE LOCALLY IN HUMBOLDT AND THEY'RE A COUPLE.

IT'S A WHITE SOUTH AFRICA WOMAN, AND A JEWISH ISRAELIS MAN AND THEN JAMELAH WILL BE ON THAT PANEL AS WELL.

THAT FILM REALLY ILLUSTRATES THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE APARTHEID SYSTEM IN SOUTH AFRICA AND THE OCCUPIED PALESTINE APARTHEIDISM OF ISRAEL.

>> WE HAVE THE GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS THE DATES.

SO WERE OLIVE TREES KEEP WILL BE AUGUST 28th AT 7:00 P.M.

THE ROADMAP TO APARTHEID SEPTEMBER 25th AT 7:00 P.M. AND THE THIRD ONE IS OCTOBER 25th AT 7:00 P.M.

IT SOUNDS ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING TO ME.

DISTURBING TO ME.

BUT FASCINATING.

I THINK WHEN YOU WATCH MAINSTREAM COVERAGE OF THIS ISSUE YOU DON'T HEAR ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO'RE BURYING 25 FAMILY MEMBERS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE IN THAT SITUATION.

IT'S REALLY A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE FUNDAMENTALLY LESS RIGHTS AND LESS STATUS THAN ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

THAT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO'S LIVING IN A STABLE SITUATION.

AND OTHERWISE YOU MIGHT HAVE BOMBS AND MORE AND MORE HORRIFIC VIOLENCE.

SO NOW YOU MENTIONED THAT THE MONEY FROM THIS EVENT WILL BE GOING FOR THE SUPPORT OF THIS OVERALL STRUGGLE.

CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

AND ORGANIZATION WHO WILL BE GIVING THE MONEY.

SO THE FEE FOR THE FILM IS 5 TO $15 SUGGESTED SLIDING SCALE.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND LEARN.

THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO US.

AND THEN ALL OF THE FUNDING THAT WE RAISE FROM THE FILM SCREENING WHICH IS GO TO ANERA WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION DOING A THE ON THE GROUND WORK IN GAZA.

THAT'S ONE OF THE FEW THINGS WE DO HEAR ABOUT.

AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS GOING TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT WAS CONTINUE TO BE ALLOWED TO DO WORK.

BASICALLY BY GOING TO THESE THINGS YOU'RE ACTIVELY CONTRIBUTING TO MAKING THE SITUATION BETTER WHICH IS SOMETHING PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR AND KNOW ABOUT IT.

>> I THINK EDUCATION IS THE FIRST STEP IN CREATING CHANGE.

AND RIGHT NOW SO FEW PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS OR AN EASY WAY TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY BEEN GOING ON NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING WHAT'S LED UP TO THIS CATALYST MOMENT THAT HAS BROUGHT PALESTINE ON TO ALL OF OUR MINDS AND HEARTS.

AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, THE WARSAW GHETTO UPRISING OR NOCTURNAL SLAVE UPRISING.

AS VIOLENT BUT NECESSARY IN A STRUGGLE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS.

AND SO MY HOPE AS THIS FILM SERIES HELPS PEOPLE TO ARRIVE AT THAT SAME UNDERSTANDING OF OCTOBER 7TH BEING A PIVOTAL MOMENT OF REBELLION IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP WHICH WAS IS WHAT GAZA IS.

AND SO THAT'S MY HOPE FOR THE FILM SERIES.

IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO HAVE THE TOOLS TO GO AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY CARE ABOUT.

AND HELP TO DISPEL MYTHS.

THIS IS HOW YOU CHANGE HEARTS AND MINDS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

EVEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IN SOME PARTS OF THE COUNTRY AND STATE WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC.

WE'LL BE BESIEGED BY PHONE CALLS.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE.

MOSTLY WE GET SUPPORT FOR THESE CONVERSATIONS.

THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

IF YOU COULD TALK ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE FOECS.

YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN VISIBLE WITH PROTESTING AND MAKING THIS ARGUMENT.

HAVE YOU BEEN WELCOMED IN THIS COMMUNITY OR BACKLASH.

HUMBOLDT FOR PALESTINE HAS BEEN -- YOU KNOW WE KIND OF LOOSELY FORMED AS AN ORGANIZATION BY THE END OF OCTOBER.

AND WE'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY UP UNTIL THE END OF JUNE EVERY SINGLE WEEK WE WERE PROTESTING FIRST ON THE PLAZA AND THEN IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE.

AND THEN WE WOULD DO SOME OTHER EVENTS AND CULTURAL EVENTS.

DISCUSSION PANELS, OR INS LAINGS.

WE DID A REALLY BELIEF PEOPLE'S GRADUATION FOR THE STUDENT IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE THAT WAS DEDICATED TO PALESTINIANS, AND WE WERE CERTAINLY GOTTEN A MIX OF SUPPORT.

THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT.

WE GET A LOT OF SUPPORT BUT WE DEFINITELY GET QUITE A BIT OF BACKLASH AND OFTEN RELATIVELY VIOLENT AND AGGRESSIVE BACKLASH INCLUDING BEING COUNTERPROTESTED BY THE DEPUTY DA OF HUMBOLDT COUNTY CONSISTENTLY EVERY FRIDAY SINCE DECEMBER.

SO YEAH, IT'S SORT OF -- IT'S A MIXED BAG.

AND CERTAINLY PEOPLE MAKE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT US, AND WHO WE ARE.

AND WE GET THAT ANTI-SEMITISM CRITIQUE.

>> WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

>> YEAH.

>> THANK YOU DEPIS FOR JOINING US.

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