COMING UP ON "HEADLINE HUMBOLDT," MARNIE ATKINS FROM THE WIYOT TRIBE DESCRIBES HER LIFE'S WORK TO HELP PRESERVE AND RESTORE THE TRIBE'S CULTURAL TRADITIONS ON THE NORTH COAST.

ALSO THE HUMBOLDT COMMUNITY SERVICES DISTRICT IS CONSIDERING A LARGE HIKE IN BOTH WATER AND SEWER RATES.

AN INCREASE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW EACH YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

COME UP NOW ON "HEADLINE HUMBOLDT".

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TONIGHT WE CONTINUE WITH THE SERIES WE'VE STARTED THAT WILL PROFILE THE GOOD WORKS OF THE WIYOT TRIBE AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND THOSE EFFORTS.

THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF HISTORY AND CULTURE WERE OBLITERATED OVER THE LAST 150 YEARS AFTER THE NORTH COAST WAS SETTLED AND TAKEN OVER BY WHITE PEOPLE.

THE WIYOT TRIBE HAS LONG FOUGHT AN UPHILL BATTLE TO SURVIVE AND TO THRIVE.

OUR INTERVIEW WITH CULTURAL DIRECTOR MARNIE ATKINS HOW THAT WORK OF PRESERVATION CONTINUES.

SHE BEGAN THE CONVERSATION WITH THE DESCRIPTION OF HER ROLE AS CULTURAL DIRECTOR.

>> MY TITLE IS CULTURAL DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.

>> OKAY.

>> I WORK FOR THE WIYOT TRIBE.

MY RESPONSIBILITIES ARE OVERSEEING THE DAGU CULTURAL CENTER, THE SOULATLUK LEARNING PROGRAM, SOULATLUK IS THE NAME OF OUR LANGUAGE, SO THE WIYOT PEOPLE'S LANGUAGE PROGRAM, AND VARIOUS PROJECTS THAT COME TO THE TRIBE THAT NEED ANY KIND OF CULTURAL INPUT, ESPECIALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO OUR ANCESTRAL LANDS OR WATERWAYS, OUR OCEAN, OUR PLANTS AND CRITTERS AND HUMANS AND LAND, WATER, AIR.

YEAH.

>> YEAH.

NOW, I MEAN, SO OBVIOUSLY, GIVEN THE HISTORY OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 160, 150 YEARS, WHATEVER IT HAS BEEN, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE STATE IS OF WIYOT CULTURE TODAY?

I KNOW THERE ARE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT EFFORTS ONGOING LIKE THE LANGUAGE PROGRAM AND RESTORATION OF THE ISLAND, TRIBAL OWNERSHIP.

WHAT IS THE STATE OF THE TRIBE'S CULTURE RIGHT NOW?

>> SO, WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER REVITALIZATION SO WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT IS FULL OF BOTH YOUNG LEARNERS AND OLDER LEARNERS.

THAT IS UNDER REVITALIZATION AND RECLAMATION EFFORTS.

SOME OF OUR CULTURAL PRACTICES ARE UNDER REVITALIZATION AND RECLAMATION EFFORTS.

SOME CONTINUED, BUT ALBEIT, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE PUBLIC -- OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC EYE.

SO THOSE CONTINUE TO BE RECLAIMED AS WELL AND REVITALIZED AND PASSED ONLY.

>> CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR US WHY THAT WORK IS SO IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF TRIBAL IDENTITY AND LEAVING A CULTURAL LEGACY FOR KIDS COMING UP AND PEOPLE INTERESTED IN WHAT THEIR HERITAGE IS?

>> SURE.

SO THE RECLAMATION OR REVITALIZATION OF OUR LANGUAGE IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO OUR CULTURAL PRACTICES BECAUSE OUR LANGUAGE CARRIES THE TEACHINGS IN IT, OUR CULTURAL TEACHINGS, OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO OUR ANCESTRAL LANDS AND WATERWAYS AND PLANTS AND ANIMALS AND EACH OTHER.

IT TELLS US WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE ARE TO CARE FOR OUR PLACE.

BECAUSE OUR LANGUAGE WAS DEVELOPED UPON THIS LANDSCAPE, SO IT CONTAINS OUR SCIENCE, OUR MATH, OUR STORIES, OUR HISTORY, OUR TRADITIONAL PRACTICES.

THE RECIPROCAL RELATIONSHIP OF LAND AND WATER AND PLANTS AND ANIMALS AND AIR THAT IT TELLS US HOW TO ENGAGE AND CARE FOR THESE THINGS SO THAT THEN THEY CARE FOR US.

SO THAT IS IMPERATIVE.

THE LANGUAGE IS ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE.

AND THEN TO GO FURTHER WITH THAT, THROUGH DIFFERENT CEREMONIAL PRACTICES OR EVEN THE TRADITIONAL FOLKS CALL IT TRADITIONAL ECOLOGICAL KNOWLEDGE NOW, THROUGH THOSE PRACTICES ON THE GROUND, IT IS -- THOSE ARE OUR SCIENCES IN PRACTICE.

THOSE ARE OUR SPIRITUALITY IN PRACTICE.

>> YEAH.

>> BY CARING FOR THESE PLACES IN A MORE TRADITIONAL SENSE, WE ARE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT THE PLANTS REMAIN HEALTHY AND THEN THEREFORE THE ANIMALS REMAIN HEALTHY AND THEN WE REMAIN HEALTH AND THEREFORE THE WATER REMAINS HEALTHY.

DO YOU SEE, IT IS ALL TIED TOGETHER.

ALTHOUGH TIMES HAVE CHANGED, YOU CAN SEE THE, I GUESS THE DIVORCE THAT HAPPENED, THE SEGREGATION THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN WIYOT PEOPLE AND OUR LANDSCAPES AND OUR ABILITIES TO DO THE RESPONSIBILITIES WE WERE GIVEN ON THIS PLACE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE SEE THAT IN THE MISMANAGEMENT OF RIVERS AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DRY THEY ARE AND THE LACK OF LAND PREY, OR [ SPEAKING NATIVE LANGUAGE ] SALMON.

THESE HEALTHY BEINGS LIVING IN THESE RIVERS.

YOU SEE IT WITH DAM CONSTRUCTION OR YOU SEE IT IN THE OCEANS WITH THE LACK OF A LOT OF SEA WEED OR SHELLS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE LEFT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE'S FOOD SOURCES.

I MEAN, I REMEMBER WHEN CLAM BEACH HAD CLAMS IN IT.

AND I'M NOT -- IN RECENT YEARS I HAVE WALKED OUT THERE AND THERE'S NOT VERY MANY CLAMS ANYMORE.

>> YEAH.

>> SO YOU CAN SEE WHEN A PEOPLE IS SEGREGATED FROM THEIR PLACE AND THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THAT RECIPROCAL RELATIONSHIP, IT NOT ONLY DAMAGES OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS PLACE BUT OTHER PEOPLES WHO HAVE COME TO RELY UPON IT, FOR EXAMPLE, FISHER PEOPLE, CLAMMERS, SEAWEED GATHERERS, MUSHROOM GATHERERS, HUCKLEBERRY GATHERS, THAT KIND OF THING.

>> I HAVE BEEN NOTICING THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASED ACCEPTANCE OF SOME OF THOSE IDEAS AND VALUES.

WE'VE SEEN IT -- WE HAD AN INTERVIEW WITH A WOMAN WHO WAS ADVISING THE STATE FIRE PRACTICES.

HOW TO BURN PRE-EMPTIVELY SO YOU DON'T HAVE CON FLAG RATIONS AND THEY WOULD TREAT THE ACORNS AND VARIOUS THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO MAKE THAT FOREST OF MORE USE.

>> RIGHT.

>> THOSE THINGS ARE STARTING TO BE RESPECTED MORE, BUT IT SEEMS WITH THE NATIVES AND THE WIYOTS THERE WAS SUCH A DEEP AND LONG RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TRIBE AND THE LAND THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR SOCIETY NOW, OUTSIDE OF THE WIYOT TRIBE, CAN NEVER REALLY CONCEIVE OF HOW DEEP THAT RELATIONSHIP IS.

AND I WONDER IF IT'S -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S A LOST CAUSE, BUT IT IS GOING BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO INCULCATE THAT VALUE SYSTEM IN A SOCIETY THAT NEVER EVEN REALLY CONCEIVES OF LAND THAT WAY.

>> GOSH, I HOPE THAT IS NOT TRUE, BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO THAT IS EVEN 15 YEARS AGO, IT WAS UNHEARD OF TO TALK ABOUT FIRE ON THE LANDSCAPE.

>> YEAH.

>> NOW, A LOT OF THESE PUBLIC AGENCIES ARE LISTENING.

AND NOW THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THEY ARE ALL FOR IT YET, BUT THEY ARE LISTENING.

THERE ARE FOLKS AT THE TABLE WHO ARE LISTENING NOW AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DID NOT HAVE LARGE FIRE BRIGADES OR HELICOPTERS TO COME IN AND DUMP SOME SORT OF FIRE RETARDANT ON A FIRE.

WE HAD TO MANAGE THIS LANDSCAPE SO TO PREVENT THESE DEVASTATING FIRES.

>> YEAH.

>> SOME OF THEM WERE LARGER AND SOME WERE TARGETED AND SMALL FIRES, YOU KNOW, SMALL PATCHES.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT HAD TO DO WITH LIKE YOU JUST SAID, THAT THE NATIVE WOMAN YOU SPOKE WITH WAS TALKING ABOUT IT, IT IS ABOUT CARING FOR OAK GROVES.

>> YEAH.

>> YOU SEE A LOT OF SUDDEN DEATH IN OUR OAK GROVES >> YEAH.

>> THAT IS PROBABLY TIED TO -- WELL, I KNOW IT IS A COMPONENT THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MANAGE THE LANDSCAPE IN THAT WAY AND WE HAVE FIRE ON IT, IT HELPS KILL SOME OF THOSE -- I'M NOT A SCIENTIST SO I'M NOT GOING SAY ALL THE PROPER WORDS.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT IT DOES HELP REMOVE, YEAH -- >> THE TREES HEALTHY.

>> YEAH.

AND THESE SMALL TARGETED BURNS ARE FOR VEGETATION TO POTENTIALLY, BACK IN THE DAY, BRING IN HEALTHIER, SO GROW HEALTHIER PRAIRIES SO THAT THE DEER AND THE ELK WOULD COME IN AND WE COULD HUNT THEM AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO RUNNING ALL OVER THE PLACE, RIGHT?

WHY GO DO THAT IF WE CAN BRING THE FOOD TO US BY MANAGING A PRAIRIE IN A MORE TRADITIONAL MANNER.

THE ANIMALS ARE GOING GO WHERE THEY ARE GOING GO.

INSTEAD OF GOING INTO A RANCHER'S RANCH AND WHERE THEIR LIVESTOCK IS, MAYBE IF THEY HAD -- IF ELK, FOR EXAMPLE, HAD PASTURE WHERE A PRAIRIE, A TRADITIONAL PRAIRIE WHERE THEY CAN GO EAT THEY MIGHT FIND THAT MORE INVITING THAN GOING WHERE THE COWS ARE, FOR EXAMPLE.

>> YEAH.

>> EVERYTHING WE DO HAVE A CAUSE AND EFFECT.

>> YES.

>> AND BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THAT CAUSE, THE EFFECT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, LESS HEALTHY LANDSCAPES AND MORE, YOU KNOW, DEVASTATING FIRES AND UNHEALTHY ANIMALS.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE ANIMALS WITH A LOT OF TICKS.

YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK AT THEM AND THEY ARE SORT OF PATCHY BECAUSE THE TICKS HAVE KIND OF GOTTEN ON THEM.

IMAGINE BEING TICK FREE FOR ANIMALS.

THAT PROBABLY MAKES THEM FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE AND ILL.

SO, AGAIN, THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS, I THINK, AS HUMANS, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

IF YOU LIVE HERE NOW, I THINK IT IS ALSO YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP CARE FOR THIS PLACE.

>> YOU KNOW, IT IS INTERESTING YOU MENTIONED THE EFFECT ON THE LAND AND ON THE ANIMALS.

WHAT ABOUT ON THE HUMANS ALIENATION SEEMS TO BE A MASSIVE PROBLEM WHERE PEOPLE NO LONGER FEEL CONNECTED TO THE EARTH, THEY NO LONGER FEEL CONNECTED TO THEIR LOCAL BIOSPHERE AND I THINK THAT I MEAN I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE OBVIOUSLY, BUT IF WE NEED TO RETURN TO A VALUE SYSTEM THAT PUTS US IN AS PART OF THE ECOSYSTEM RATHER THAN MAKES US MANAGERS OF IT.

I THINK OBVIOUSLY THE WIYOTS ARE PIONEERS IN THAT WISDOM AND I'M JUST EXCITED ABOUT IT.

>> NO.

YOU ARE RIGHT.

IT IS MORE THAN SORT OF STEWARDSHIP WHERE YOU ARE LIKE, I'M GOING GO OVER THERE AND TAKE OUT SOME INVASIVE PLANTS AND PUT IN SOME NATIVE PLANTS AND I'M GOING PUT UP A SIGN.

LOOK AT ME.

>> YEAH.

>> IN REALITY, IT IS ABOUT RECIPROCAL RELATIONSHIP.

THIS ONGOING THING.

SO THAT'S AWESOME THAT YOU JUST WENT OVER THERE AND YOU PULLED THE INVASIVE PLANTS, YOU PLANTED THE NATIVE PLANTS THAT WILL NOT ONLY -- THAT ADAPT TO THIS ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW, TO ITS RAIN, TO ITS WEATHER, TO ITS HEAT SIGNATURE, ALL OF THAT, BUT THEN IT WILL ALSO ENSURE THAT POLLINATORS COME, ENSURE THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF THE ANIMALS THAT WILL EAT UPON THAT VEGETATION.

OKAY.

BUT NOW YOU KEEP IN RELATION WITH IT.

BECAUSE SOME PLANTS LIKE TO BE FUSSED WITH.

THEY LIKE TO BE PRUNED AND PLUCKED AND TRIMMED BACK SO THEY CAN GROW STRONGER NEXT YEAR.

AND THAT IS WHERE HUMANS COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY INDIGENOUS FOLKS, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PLANTS ENJOY BEING PRUNED AND PLUCKS AND NEXT YEAR THEY GROW STRONGER AND GET STRONGER STICKS.

HAZEL IS ONE OF THEM.

THEY LIKE IT.

>> YEAH, YEAH.

>> SO IF WE DO THAT, IF WE DO THAT WORK, WE BECOME OBSERVERS OF OUR NATURAL WORLD, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

WE ALL USED TO BE TRIBAL PEOPLE.

>> YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY.

>> NO MATTER WHAT CONTINENT YOU ARE FROM, WE ALL USED TO HAVE A MUCH STRONGER RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR LANDSCAPES.

>> YEAH.

>> SO IT IS NOT JUST INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.

IT IS ALL PEOPLE.

IF YOU JUST FOLLOW THOSE PRACTICES, YOU KNOW, YOU ONLY TAKE WHAT YOU NEED.

YOU ONLY CONSUME WHAT YOU NEED.

YOU REPLANT, YOU GIVE BACK AT ALL OPPORTUNITIES WITHOUT HESITATION.

>> MM-HMM.

>> THAT IS A VERY DIFFERENT MINDSET FROM WHERE WE ARE.

>> YEAH.

NOW SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CHANGE AND WHERE CERTAIN EXPERTS ARE WILLING TO HEAR NATIVE WISDOM NOW WHERE THEY MAYBE WEREN'T BEFORE.

THERE HAS BEEN A HUGE CHANGE IN SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES WITH EUREKA DECIDING TO GIVE THE ISLAND BACK AND WHAT NOT.

DO YOU THINK THAT CHANGE HAS MANIFESTED ITSELF IN, YOU KNOW, BEING MORE WELCOMING TO THE WIYOT TRIBAL LEGACY OR IS THAT MORE OF A SURFACE LEVEL?

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IT GO DEEPER OR DOES IT REFLECT SOMETHING TRULY VALUABLE IN YOUR MIND?

>> I BELIEVE THAT IT IS A REFLECTION ON THE ONGOING CONCERTED EFFORTS OF MANY PEOPLE TO BOTH EDUCATE ABOUT WIYOT PEOPLE, OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING EDUCATED TO OPEN THEIR EYES AND THEIR EARS AND THEIR MINDS TO LISTEN.

I DON'T THINK IT IS A SUPERFICIAL EFFORT >> POLITICAL THING OR WHATEVER.

>> I THINK IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP.

YOU KNOW HOW IT IS.

OUR LEADERSHIP CAN CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT DEPENDING ON ELECTIONS.

I THINK THAT AT THE TIMES WHERE WE DID, WHERE THE CITY DID RETURN LAND BACK, THERE HAPPENED TO BE PEOPLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND IN THE COMMUNITY, I MEAN, MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY SUPPORTED THESE EFFORTS.

IT WAS NOT JUST THE CITY LEADERS.

IT WAS OUR NEIGHBORS.

>> YEAH.

>> WHO SAID, NO, IT IS TIME FOR THAT ISLAND TO GO BACK TO THE WIYOT PEOPLE.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S NOT SUPERFICIAL.

I THINK THAT THAT'S DEFINITELY A SHIFT IN KNOWLEDGE THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE AND IT TAKES GREAT STRENGTH AND EFFORT, YOU KNOW THAT, TO -- I GUESS TO STOP THE BIASES YOU HAVE HAD OVER THE YEARS AND OPEN UP AND LISTEN TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WHEREAS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ERASED OR NOT PART OF YOUR DAILY LIFE.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL SHIFT.

YEAH.

>> A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, BUT I WANT TO GET THESE IN.

THE CULTURAL CENTER.

YOU ARE IN CHARGE.

WHERE IT IS AND WHAT THE HOURS ARE AND WHAT PEOPLE CAN EXPERIENCE THAT MIGHT HELP THEM UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE WIYOT PEOPLE.

>> SO WE ARE ON FACEBOOK.

AND IT IS FACEBOOK.COM/DGRLCC.

ON THERE EVERY WEEK WE TRY TO POST WHAT OUR UPCOMING HOURS WILL BE.

RIGHT NOW WE'LL PROBABLY -- WE'RE GOING BE CLOSED FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, SO NOT THIS WEEK, BUT THE WEEK OF JUNE 5th AND JUNE 12th BECAUSE WE WILL BE DOING SOME FILMING.

WE ARE WORKING ON A VIDEOGRAPHY PROJECT SO WE ARE FILMING SOME OF OUR TRADITIONAL PRACTICES.

>> WOW.

>> YEAH.

IT IS SUPER COOL.

WE WILL BE CLOSED, SORRY.

WE WILL BE BACK OPEN AND WE ARE USUALLY OPEN WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY 12:00 TO 5:00.

RIGHT NOW HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOMEONE ELSE HIRED AND THAT COULD EXPAND.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO OR WE ARE PLANNING TO DO IN THE SPACE ARE PROGRAMMING NOT JUST FOR WIYOT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A PLACE TO COME AND GATHER AND TO LEARN THEIR TRADITIONAL PRACTICES FROM EACH OTHER, BRINGING IN OUR OWN CULTURAL KNOWLEDGE BEARERS, BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE PROGRAM ABOUT WIYOT HISTORY, PEOPLE, CULTURE TO NON-WIYOT PEOPLE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO HOST, SHINE THE LIGHT ON INDIGENOUS ARTISTS LOCALLY.

AND WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR CULTURAL REGALIA.

YOU CAN COME LOOK AT WHAT A DANCE DRESS LOOKS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE.

YOU COULD COME AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE BEAUTIFUL, INTRICATE WEAVING WE DO, BOTH UTILITARIAN FOR PROCESSING FOODS, COOKING, EATING, TO BASKETRY, TO BEAUTIFUL CEREMONIAL CAPS.

SO COMING AND ENGAGING IS, I THINK, IS AN IMPORTANT POINT.

WE HAVE SCHOOL GROUPS IN ALL THE TIME.

I HAVE HAD LITTLE ONES FROM KINDERGARTEN AND THEY DID GREAT, JUST SO YOU KNOW.

WHAT AM I GOING DO WITH KINDERGARTENERS, BUT THEY DID WONDERFUL.

>> YEAH.

>> ALL THE WAY UP TO BIG PEOPLE.

SO I THINK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHO WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS PLACE AND WHO HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL AND HOW WE HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE YEARS, VERY TERRIBLE YEARS OF COLONIZATION AND GENOCIDE AND ARE UNDERGOING OUR OWN RECLAMATION AND REVITALIZATION EFFORTS AND HOW THOSE FITS AND SPURTS HAVE STARTED AND HOW THE INDIAN REORGANIZATION ACT IMPACTED US OR HOW, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO LAND OR PUBLIC LANDS OR EVEN PRIVATE LANDS HAVE IMPACTED OUR ABILITY TO CONDUCT OUR TRADITIONAL PRACTICES.

WE CAN TALK AND LEARN ABOUT ALL OF THAT.

NOT A LOT IS TAUGHT SOMETIMES IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS SO THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR TEACHERS TO BRING STUDENTS IN AND HAVE THAT ENGAGEMENT AND LISTENING, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH.

>> YEAH.

FANTASTIC.

AND I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION, I'LL SAVE THIS SO YOU CAN HAVE IT OPEN-ENDED FOR YOU, WHAT EXCITES YOU ABOUT THE FUTURE OF WIYOT CULTURE?

WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT THE CRIMES OF THE PAST AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEFALLEN THE TRIBES AND THE WAYS THEY HAVE SUCCEEDED TO REGAIN RECOGNITION AND ALL THAT.

WHAT IS EXCITING TO YOU AT THIS MOMENT ABOUT WHERE THE WREATH TRIBE IS AND WHERE IT IS GOING?

>> THE FUTURE IS SO BRIGHT I'VE GOT TO WEAR SHADES.

I SEE THAT WE ARE -- I'M EXCITED THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS STILL HERE.

WE'RE STILL TOGETHER.

AND THAT THROUGH BUILDING COHESIVE, HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, I THINK WE CAN OVERCOME THE PAST, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVE ACTIONS AND THAT NOT ONLY DO WE SURVIVE, BUT WE THRIVE AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE'RE HEADED.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING AN OLD LADY SITTING ON MY PORCH DRINKING MY ICED TEA AND TELLING THOSE OLD LADY STORIES OF WHEN I WAS A KID AND SEEING WHERE WE ARE.

>> YEAH.

>> LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

>> THAT IS SOMETHING WORTH FIGHTING FOR.

SO AND AS MUCH AS I CAN HELP, I WILL.

WE'LL HAVE -- WE'RE DOING AN ONGOING SERIES, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, SO I WILL TALK WITH DAVID AND THE CHAIRWOMAN ABOUT WHO ELSE MIGHT BE COMING IN NEXT.

IT HAS BEEN A WHILE TO GET THIS TO WORK.

I THINK THIS INTERVIEW IS WONDERFUL.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YEAH, THANKS, JAMES.

WE DID IT!

>> HUMBOLDT COMMUNITY SERVICES DISTRICT HAS ANNOUNCED THEY ARE LOOKING TO SIGNIFICANTLY RAISE THEIR WATER AND SEWER RATES, POTENTIALLY IMPACTING THOUSANDS OF NORTH COAST CUSTOMERS.

A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE MOVE WILL BE HELD AT JULY 11 AT THE DISTRICT OFFICES, 5055 WALNUT DRIVE IN EUREKA.

THE DISTRICT SAID IN LETTERS SENT TO CUSTOMERS THAT THE RATE INCREASE WILL UPGRADE EQUIPMENT, MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS AND PERFORM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

"AS A WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM CONTINUES TO AGE, REPLACEMENT OF PIPELINES AND EQUIPMENT BECOMES A NECESSARY MAINTENANCE."

IF APPROVED THE HIKE WOULD INCREASE WATER RATES BY 13% EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AND SEWER RATES BY 14%.

WITH NO FUTURE PUBLIC HEARINGS REQUIRED.

SO IF YOU WANT TO GET COMMENT IN, THIS IS YOUR CHANCE.

THE FIRST INCREASE WOULD GO INTO EFFECT AUGUST 1st.

WATER AND SEWER AS WELL AS AMOUNTS THAT IS USED.

$26.40 A MONTH TO $38.40 BY 2027.

THE RATE FOR EACH 748 GALLONS OF WATER USED WOULD MORE THAN DOUBLE AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS.

FROM $4.06 TO $8.66.

WRITTEN PROTESTS MAY BE SUBMITTED IN WRITING BEFORE THE CLOSING OF THE JULY 11 PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THIS WEEK NASA CONDUCTED THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IN ITS EFFORT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE UFO SITUATION.

A BLUE RIBBON COMMISSION DISCUSSED THE DIFFICULTY SCIENCE HAS HAD ASCERTAINING THE IDENTIFY OF WHAT USED TO BE CALLED UFOs.

DAVID SPERGEL TALKS ABOUT NOISE'S EXPERTISE IS THE BEST WAY TO STUDY UAPs.

SEAN KIRKPATRICK IS THE AERIAL RESOLUTION OFFICE WHO ARGUES THAT NASA AS AN INVALUABLE PLACE.

>> NASA HAS A SPECIAL ROLE TO PLAY AND I SEE OUR CHARGE PRIMARILY HELPING FOR NASA WAYS TO PLAY THAT ROLE AND CONTRIBUTE TO UNDERSTANDING.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH A PRELIMINARY DATA COLLECTION STAGE AND TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED, THE CURRENT DATA COLLECTION EFFORTS REGARDING UAPs ARE UNSYSTEMATIC AND FRAGMENTED ACROSS VARIOUS AGENCIES, OFTEN USING INSTRUMENTS UNCALIBRATED FOR SCIENTIFIC DATA COLLECTION AND IF I THINK ABOUT THE DATA THAT PEOPLE HAVE OUT THERE, IT IS IN MANY WAYS WHAT WE LIKE TO THINK OF AS CITIZEN SCIENCE, BUT, AGAIN, IT IS UNCALIBRATED DATA, POORLY CHARACTERIZED, NOT WELL CURATED.

WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BACKGROUND, MANY EVENTS ARE COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT, CIVILIAN OR MILITARY DRONES, WEATHER AND RESEARCH BALLOONS, I ONSPHERIC EVENTS.

WE NEED TO SEE THE DATA TAKEN WHEN IT SEES EVENTS LIKE THIS.

THE CURRENT REPORTS ALONE ARE INSUFFICIENT TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF THE NATURE AND ORIGIN OF EVERY UAP EVENT.

THEY ARE UNINFORMATIVE DUE TO LACK OF QUALITY CONTROL AND DATA CURATION.

TO UNDERSTAND UAP BETTER, TARGETED DATA COLLECTION, THOROUGH DATA COLLECTION AND ROBUST ANALYSES ARE NEEDED.

>> NASA HAS BEEN AN INVALUABLE PARTNER AS WE WORK TO BETTER UNDERSTAND AND RESPOND TO UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENON.

WE APPLAUD NASA FOR COMMISSIONING INDEPENDENT STUDY TEAM AND, EMPLOYERING WHAT TOOLS AND DATA COULD BE LEVERAGED TO SHED LIGHT ON UAP.

NASA AND ARROW ARE TAKING ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS, OUR EFFORTS ARE COMPLEMENTARY, WE ARE BOTH COMMITTED TO THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD, A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH AND THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY.

NASA IS EVALUATING UNCLASSIFIED DATA SOURCES, OUR DATA SET INCLUDES A FOCUS ON NATIONAL SECURITY AREAS.

HOWEVER, ALL OF THIS DATA COLLECTIVELY IS CRITICAL TO UNDERSTANDING THE NATURE AND ORIGIN OF UAP.

THAT IS IT FOR THIS WEEK AND REMEMBER TONIGHT WE ARE STARTING OUR ANNUAL SPRING PLEDGE DRIVE.

WE ARE DOING THINGS A BIT DIFFERENCE BY INCONVENIENCING VIEWERS AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE AND STICKING WITH REGULAR PROGRAMMING.

IF YOU LIKE THIS APPROACH REMEMBER TO GIVE.

YOUR DONATIONS MAKE SHOWS LIKE THIS POSSIBLE.

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