LIVE CC BY ABERDEEN CAPTIONING 800-688-6621 WWW.ABERCAP.COM >> COMING UP ON "HEADLINE HUMBOLDT," AUTHOR JEAN PFAELZER JOINS US TO TALK ABOUT HER NEW BOOK, CALIFORNIA, A SLAVE STATE, AND HOW THE GOLDEN STATE HAS A LONG AND TROUBLED HISTORY WITH HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND FORCED LABOR.

ALSO AFTER NEARLY 10 YEARS TWO UNSOLVED MURDER CASES OUT OF THE FORTUNA AREA STILL HAVE AUTHORITIES BAFFLED.

POLICE ARE NOW ASKING FOR WITNESSES TO COME FORWARD.

COMING UP NOW ON "HEADLINE HUMBOLDT."

FROM THE TOP OF HUMBOLDT HILL.

THIS IS "HEADLINE HUMBOLDT."

I'M JAMES FAULK.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FEELING PRETTY SMUG THESE DAYS ABOUT LIVING IN CALIFORNIA.

IT IS A BLUE STATE WHICH THEY PREFER AND A VAUNTED HISTORY AS A TRAIL BLAZERS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND SOCIAL JUSTICE CAUSES.

PEOPLE THINK CALIFORNIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN SO MUCH AND SO MUCH OF THE TROUBLE OF THIS COUNTRY, SLAVERY AND GENOCIDE HAPPENED ELSEWHERE, BACK EAST.

THAT IS JUST NOT TRUE.

AS AUTHOR JEAN PFAELZER EXPLAINS IN HER NEW BOOK, "CALIFORNIA, A SLAVE STATE."

PFAELZER WAS FEATURED ON THE BBC AND "LOS ANGELES TIMES."

SHE HAS DONE MUCH OVER THE COURSE OF HER CAREER TO RE-EXAMINE OUR HISTORY, IDENTIFY TRAGIC AND MURDEROUS MOMENTS AND THE VARIOUS GROUPS HAVE RESISTED AND GAINED STRENGTH IN THE PROCESS.

SHE IS NOT HASH OUT HISTORY, SHE SUBPOENA SHOWING THE STRENGTH OF MARGINALIZED GROUPS WHO HAVE GONE ON.

AUTHOR JEAN PFAELZER JOINS US AFTER THAT BREAK.

>> HI, JEAN.

THANKS FOR COMING INTO THE STUDIO.

WE APPRECIATE HAVING YOU IN HERE IN PERSON.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK.

>> SO WE HAD YOU ON THE SHOW BEFORE AND WE TALKED ABOUT DRIVEN OUT, YOUR PREVIOUS BOOK, AND THE PROJECTS SURROUNDING DRIVEN OUT.

YOU HAVE A NEW BOOK GETTING LOTS OF ATTENTION, "CALIFORNIA, A SLAVE STATE," CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR US WHY THIS BOOK CAME TO BE?

WHAT IS THE STORY BEHIND IT?

>> THIS BOOK CAME TO BE BECAUSE I FACED SURPRISING EVENTS, INSTANCES THAT I COULDN'T MAKE SENSE OF.

I WAS BORN IN LOS ANGELES.

I WENT TO BERKELEY.

I GREW UP IN CALIFORNIA.

I HAD A TERRIFIC EDUCATION AND WAS STARTLED BY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I CAME UPON.

ONE WAS A LITTLE PHOTOGRAPH THAT I FOUND IN WRITING "DRIVEN OUT" THAT WAS OF A CHINESE GIRL.

SHE LOOKED ABOUT 14 OR 15.

IN A CAGED BROTHEL IN SAN FRANCISCO.

SHE WAS A KIDNAPPED PROSTITUTE, SEIZED IN CHINA, SOLD IN BROTHEL ON THE STREETS OF SAN FRANCISCO.

AND TRAPPED LITERALLY IN A CAGED BROTHEL.

I LOOKED AT THAT PICTURE AND I THOUGHT, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 13th AMENDMENT?

HOW DID THIS COME TO BE IN A PICTURE THAT IS PROBABLY THE 1880s.

>> YEAH.

I MEAN, IT IS AFTER 1865.

>> LONG AFTER THE 13th AND THE 14th AMENDMENT, WHICH GUARANTEES EVERYBODY EQUAL RIGHTS UNDER THE LAW.

AND I WAS JUST REALLY TROUBLED BY THE DISSONANCE BETWEEN THIS PHOTOGRAPH OF THIS GIRL.

I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS.

I WAS HAUNTED BY THIS IMAGE.

THEN A FEW YEARS AGO IN OUR LOCAL PAPER I READ ABOUT A 15-YEAR-OLD GIRL IN LAKE COUNTY, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF US, AND SHE HAD BEEN KEPT IN A METAL CRATE.

SHE WAS HOMELESS, WANDERING THE STREETS OF HOLLYWOOD AND SHE WAS PICKED UP BY TWO MEN WHO PROMISED TO HELP HER.

AND DRIVEN THE LENGTH OF THE STATE AND THEN WHEN THEY -- SHE GOT TO LAKE COUNTY, SHE WAS KEPT ON THE RANCH OF A MARIJUANA GROW.

SHE WAS KEPT IN A METAL CRATE.

IN THE CRATE WERE TWO HOLES.

ONE TO HOSE HER DOWN AND THE OTHER TO PROD HER.

SHE ESCAPED.

ONE DAY THEY TOOK HER TO SACRAMENTO TO DO SOME SHOPPING.

THEY LOCKED HER IN A MOTEL ROOM.

SHE SAW A TELEPHONE AND SHE DIALED 911.

THIS LITTLE GIRL WHO HAD BEEN TORTURED, ABUSED, AND HAD BEEN KEPT IN THIS CRATE.

SHE WAS ONLY LET OUT TO SEXUALLY SERVE THE OWNERS, THE GROWERS.

AND TO TRIM THE BUDS OF THE MARIJUANA PLANTS.

AND THEN SHE WOULD ALWAYS BE LOCKED BACK IN THE CRATE.

AND SHE SURVIVED AND AFTER EIGHT MONTHS SHE CREATED HER FREEDOM.

AND THAT STORY, WHERE I SUPPOSE THE BOOKENDS OF CALIFORNIA, A SLAVE STATE.

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN IN CALIFORNIA, A STATE I LOVE, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN IN HUMBOLDT COUNTY, WHICH MEANS SO MUCH TO ME, ITS BEAUTY, ITS HISTORY, IT PEOPLE.

I STARTED MY TEACHING CAREER UP HERE.

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN SO CLOSE TO HUMBOLDT?

I FELT I HAD TO PUT THOSE PIECES TOGETHER.

WHAT HAPPENS AS IN A LOT OF PROJECTS, IT GREW, IT GREW, IT GREW UNTIL IT TURNED INTO A STORY OF 250 YEARS OF SLAVERY IN CALIFORNIA.

>> YEAH.

I MEAN, IT IS FASCINATING TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY, BUT THEN SOME OF THIS IS STILL GOING ON.

YOU SAID A FEW YEARS AGO THIS HAPPENED.

I KNOW HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS STILL A PROBLEM.

AND SOME OF IT EXISTS IN THE BLACK MARKET REALM OF THE CAN BUS INDUSTRY, BUT ALSO OTHER DRUGS AND RELATED LIFESTYLE THAT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC.

THIS ISN'T JUST THE PAST, RIGHT?

>> WE'RE LIVING IN A SLAVE ERA NOW.

I MEAN, THIS BOOK STARTS WITH SPAIN'S INVASION OF CALIFORNIA IN 1769.

IT GOES THROUGH THE LAWS THAT MADE IT LEGAL TO KIDNAP, FORCE INTO INDENTURE AND SELL NATIVE AMERICANS, THE VERY FIRST LAW THAT CALIFORNIA PASSED AFTER BECOMING A STATE.

IT TOOK ME INTO THE FACT THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS ENSLAVED PLANTATION WORKERS WERE MARCHED ACROSS THE PLAINS OR SHIPPED THROUGH THE JUNGLES OF PANAMA TO COME UP AND WORK ENSLAVED FOR SLAVE HOLDERS IN THE GOLD RUSH.

IT TOOK ME INTO THE HISTORY OF SANGUINE -- SAN QUINTEN PRISON, THE INDIAN BOARDING SCHOOLS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW MORE AND MORE.

THERE WERE 12 INDIAN BOARDING SCHOOLS IN CALIFORNIA WHERE CHILDREN WHO HAD BEEN SEIZED AND TAKEN THERE FOR CONVERSION AND EDUCATION WERE IMMEDIATELY SHIPPED OUT TO WORK IN THE ORANGE GROVES OF RIVERSIDE OR FOR THE GIRLS TO WORK IN DOMESTIC SERVICE AND THEN IT TAKES US INTO HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

SO IT IS THESE 250 YEARS OR AS YOU SAY, WE ARE SURROUNDED BY HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

90% OF THE VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN CALIFORNIA ARE WOMEN.

WOMEN AND GIRLS.

IF WE GO INTO A MOTEL, THE MAIDS WHO ARE CHANGING OUR SHEETS MAY WELL BE TRAFFICKED.

OUR ATHLETIC CLOTHES THAT MARK US AS CALIFORNIANS AND HAVE SET THE STYLE OF OUR GENERATION WERE MADE IN SWEATSHOPS.

>> YEAH.

>> IN SAN FRANCISCO.

THE MARIJUANA GROWS, WHICH ARE LEGAL, AND ENJOYED UP HERE IN CALIFORNIA OR USED FOR MEDICINAL PURPOSES, THE FIELD WORKERS IN THE MARIJUANA GROWS ARE OFTEN KIDNAPPED AT THE BORDER.

SOME OF THEM ARE KIDNAPPED FROM FOSTER HOMES.

SOME OF THEM ARE KIDNAPPED FROM IMMIGRANT DETENTION CENTERS.

AND SENT ACROSS THE STATE FOR FIELD LABOR OR SEX SLAVERY.

SO IT IS WHEREVER WE ARE AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS SEE IT.

WE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO NOTICE.

>> YEAH.

ONE OF THE THINGS I MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE THE SHOW IS WE SEEM TO BE AT AN INFLECTION POINT IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE A LONG TIME IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE LEARNING OUR HISTORY AND EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A BURDEN, WE HAVE COME TO ACCEPT THE BLEAKER, DARKER SIDE OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.

THERE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A COLLECTIVE REBELLION AMONG SOME FOLKS IN THIS COUNTRY WHO DON'T WANT TO LEARN THAT ANYMORE OR HAVE IT BE TAUGHT.

THEY WANT TO HOLD AN IDEAL OF AMERICA IN THEIR HEAD AND NOT BE BOTHERED BY PESKY REALITIES.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE DANGER FOR THAT KIND OF APPROACH OR CONVERSELY, WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THESE, YOU KNOW, DARK MARKS ON AMERICA'S CHARACTER AND CALIFORNIA'S CHARACTER?

>> THAT QUESTION IS VERY RELEVANT THIS WEEK AS WE'VE SEEN THE SUPREME COURT DECISIONS COMING DOWN THAT ARE ANNOUNCING THAT RACISM DOESN'T EXIST OR THAT RACE DOESN'T EXIST OR THAT RACE DOESN'T MATTER.

AND MY BOOK, OUR KIDS' EDUCATION, MY WORK AS A TEACHER ARE ALL GOING BE IMPACTED BY THIS DEMAND TO MAKE RACE INVISIBLE.

A HUGE PART OF MY CAREER AS AN AUTHOR AND AS A FACULTY MEMBER HAS BEEN TO RECOVER AND TEACH AND DISCUSS THE BOOKS THAT I NEVER READ.

BOOKS LIKE HARRIET JACOBS, INCIDENTS IN THE LIFE OF A SLAVE GIRL.

OR THE STORY I OPEN MY BOOK WITH.

THIS IS A STORY OF A RUNAWAY WYLAKI10-YEAR-OLD GIRL WHO INSISTS THAT WE LISTEN TO HER STORY.

AND SHE IS BEING TRAPPED BY THAT LAW THAT LEGALIZED THE FORCED INDENTURE OF INDIANS AND SHE IS ON THE RUN FROM THE AMERICAN MILITARY.

AND WILL I BE ABLE TO TELL THAT STORY?

WOULD I BE ABLE TO TEACH THAT STORY?

I ASKED MY PUBLICIST JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, HOW AM I GOING PUBLICIZE A BANNED BOOK?

THIS BOOK JUST CAME OUT A FEW DAYS AGO.

BUT WILL THESE STORIES BE ALLOWED TO BE TAUGHT IN FLORIDA, IN NORTH CAROLINA?

IN TEXAS?

IF WE DON'T READ AND KNOW AND TELL THE STORIES OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE AT HOME IN OUR OWN STATE, STORIES THAT YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T LEARN IN HIGH SCHOOL, I DIDN'T LEARN IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT WE'RE GOING KEEP LOCKING IN LAWS THAT ARE ABOLISHING THE VOTE, ABOLISHING THE RIGHT TO REPRODUCTIVE CARE, AND IMPOSING CRAZY TAXES ON POTENTIALLY EVEN ON REPARATIONS.

THE DOWNSIDE OF THIS VERY TROUBLING WEEK IS GOING COME HOME TO HAUNT US.

IF PEOPLE'S EYES ARE AS CLOSED AS MINE WERE, WE'RE NOT GOING DO THE HOMEWORK TO FIX THE TROUBLED PARTS OF OUR SOCIAL AND POLITICAL FABRIC.

>> YEAH.

ONE OF THE POINTS I THOUGHT THAT WAS WELL MADE IN YOUR BOOK AND ALSO I THINK IS A NEGLECTED TOPIC AS FAR AS ISSUES LIKE THIS GO IS THE PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.

WE HAVE A CAPTIVE WORK FORCE IN THE STATE.

MILLIONS STRONG.

AND WE TALK ABOUT ON THE SURFACE AT LEAST REFORM.

FIGURING OUT HOW TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM SO IT WORKS BETTER.

BUT WE STILL HAVE A SYSTEM THAT DEPENDS ON TRAFFICKING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE EVERY YEAR INTO CAGES.

AND I WONDER IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT FOR THE AUDIENCE HOW THE CONNECTION BETWEEN PRISONERS AND SLAVE LABOR IS MADE.

>> IT IS IN THE LAW.

THE 13th AMENDMENT THAT WE CHERISH HAS AN OUT THAT SLAVERY IS -- >> IT IS NOT AN AMENDMENT YOU WANT TO HAVE A LOOPHOLE.

>> WE DO NOT WANT THE AMENDMENT WRITTEN INTO THAT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE 13th AMENDMENT.

THAT ABOLISHES SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES, EXCEPT AS PUNISHMENT FOR A CRIME.

SLAVERY IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE PUNISHMENT FOR SHOPLIFTING OR ASSAULT OR THEFT OR EVEN VIOLENT CRIMES AGAINST PEOPLE.

SLAVERY IS IN A CATEGORY OF ITS OWN.

IT'S NOT A CRIMINAL PUNISHMENT.

AND WHAT I DISCOVERED IS THAT SLAVERY IS ENDORSED THROUGHOUT THE CONSTITUTION IN THE FIFTH, NINTH, AND 10th AMENDMENT.

IT BECOMES VERY CLEAR THAT WE CAN'T HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY AND SLAVES, ENSLAVED HUMAN BEINGS WERE CONSIDERED PROPERTY.

SO THAT WE COULDN'T SEIZE OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.

THIS IS EMBEDDED IN OUR FOUNDATIONAL LAW.

SO THE FACT THAT IN THE 13th AMENDMENT PUNISHMENT FOR A CRIME INCLUDES SLAVERY IS RIGHT UP FRONT.

IN THIS BOOK -- THIS BOOK TRACES THE HISTORY OF SAN QUINTENPRISON.

RIGHT WITH THE GOLD RUSH, THERE WAS CRIME IN SAN FRANCISCO, THERE WAS CRIME IN SACRAMENTO, THE JUMPING OFF POINT FOR THE GOLD RUSH.

AND THERE WAS NO INSTITUTIONS EXCEPT SOME PRETTY FUNKY LOCAL JAILS TO DEAL WITH CRIMINALS.

WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE RAW NEW STATE LEGISLATURE IS CONTROLLED BY SOUTHERN PLANTATION OWNERS AND THEY PASS A LAW AND GIVE OUT, AT THE TIME, $100,000.

THAT IS A CRAZY AMOUNT OF MONEY.

>> YEAH.

>> IN 1850 TO A SLEAZY CONTRACTOR TO START THE PRISON SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA.

>> PROOF FROM THE POISON TREE.

>> PROOF FROM THE POISON TREE.

SO IN SAN FRANCISCO BAY, WITH THE GOLD RUSH, THERE ARE 400 ABANDONED SHIPS.

AND WHAT THIS CONTRACTOR, JIMS EDSEL DOES IS TAKES TWO OF THOSE SHIPS AND TURNS THEM INTO PRISON BRIGS.

HE GETS THE SUPPORT OF THE GOVERNOR TO SHIP PRISONERS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE TO HIM.

HE REFITS THE PRISON BRIGS.

THE WHOLE BOTTOM OF THE HULLS ARE NASTY, TINY JAIL CELLS AND HE SAILS THESE PRISON BRIGS AROUND THE BAY TO START THE ROADS, THE SEWAGE SYSTEMS, TO WORK ON PRIVATE MANSIONS IN SAN FRANCISCO.

FINALLY THE STATE LEGISLATURE, WITH A BORING SERIES OF REPORTS, SAYS, BUILD THE PRISON.

AND SO THIS GROUP OF DESTITUTE PEOPLE ARRESTED FOR PETTY, PETTY CRIMES ARE SHIPPED OVER TO MARIN COUNTY AND THEY BUILD THEIR OWN PRISON AT SAN QUENTIN.

>> THAT IS AN AMAZING STORY, TRAGIC AND ENLIGHTENING.

WE HAVE LESS THAN ONE MINUTE.

WE WANT TO PLUG A READING THAT IS COMING UP.

FRIDAY JULY 7th AT 7:00 P.M., NORTH TOWN BOOKS 757H STREET IN ARCADIA.

WAS THERE ANOTHER EVENT YOU WANT TO MENTION?

>> YES.

THE NEXT DAY I WILL BE AT THE CLARK MUSEUM AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE BOOK IN EUREKA AT THE CLARK MUSEUM.

>> EXCELLENT.

EXCELLENT.

ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

I APPRECIATE HAVING YOU ON THE SHOW.

YOUR INTELLECT AND WISDOM IS ALWAYS WELCOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK.

>> WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THIS SHORT BREAK.

>> AFTER NEARLY 10 YEARS, TWO UNSOLVED MURDER CASES OUT OF THE FORTUNA AREA STILL HAVE POLICE BAFFLED.

AUTHORITIES ARE ONCE AGAIN ASKING FOR WITNESSES TO THE 2014 DISAPPEARANCES OF DANIELLE BERT LEANY AND SHEILA FRANKS TO COME FORWARD.

KEY CONTRIBUTOR RYAN HUDSON HAS THE STORY.

>> BACK IN 2014, TWO WOMEN FROM THE FORTUNA AREA WENT MISSING WITHIN A WEEK OF EACH OTHER AND ARE BELIEVED TO HAVE BEEN MURDERED.

SHEELY FRANKS' SKULL AND DANIELLE BERGOLINNI'S FEMUR BONE WERE FOUND IN DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE FORTUNA AREA.

NO ARREST HAS BEEN MADE IN EITHER CASE DUE TO LACK OF EVIDENCE.

DETECTIVE BRIAN TAYLOR OF THE FORTUNA HAS BEEN ON THE DANIELLE CASE SINCE SHE WENT MISSING.

THE HUMBOLDT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE LEFT SHEILA FRANKS CASE OPEN HOPING MORE INFORMATION WILL COME FORWARD WITH THE PUBLIC.

A LOCAL FORTUNA MAN, JAMES EUGENE JONES, KNOWN FOR VIOLENCE, IS NOT NAMED A SUSPECT, BUT HAS BEEN COOPERATIVE WITH THE INVESTIGATION AS A PERSON OF INTEREST ACCORDING TO DETECTIVE TAYLOR.

NOW, RECENTLY OUT OF PRISON AFTER SERVING TIME FOR CHARGES RELATED TO VEHICLE THEFT, FELONY EVASION AND DUI IN MENDS THERE ICNO COUNTY THE FAMILIES ARE PUSHING LOCAL POLICE TO DIG DEEPER.

JORDAN FRANKS, SHEILA FRANKS SON, BILLIE JO DICK, DANIELLE'S MOTHER, RECENTLY MET WITH DETECTIVE TAYLOR WHO EXPLAINED THEY NEED MORE EVIDENCE TO COME FORWARD.

>> WE ARE ALL HERE FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE FOR BOTH OF OUR GIRLS.

NINE AND A HALF YEARS TOO LONG WITH NO JUSTICE, KNOWING THIS PERSON IS STILL WALKING THE STREETS BEING ABLE TO DO WHAT HE IS ABLE TO DO AND DO IT FREELY AND WHILE JORDAN'S MOTHER AND MY DAUGHTER, THEY DON'T GET TO DO THAT NO MORE.

THEY DON'T GET TO BE A PART OF OUR LIVES ANYMORE.

THEY NEVER GOT TO SEE JORDAN GET MARRIED.

I WILL NEVER GET TO SEE DANIELLE GET MARRIED.

PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS FOR US TO LIVE DAY-TO-DAY TO KEEP GOING ON, TO WAKE UP EVERY MORNING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF THE OTHER.

>> YEAH.

>> TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND GO, OKAY, WE GOT THIS.

WE'VE GOT ANOTHER DAY.

WE'VE GOT TO FIGHT FOR THEM.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING.

WE ARE NOT GOING GO AWAY.

WE ARE GOING CONTINUE TO FIGHT UNTIL WE HAVE NO FIGHT LEFT IN US.

UNTIL OUR LAST BREATH IS GONE, WE WILL UH -- FIGHT.

>> YES.

IT IS A HUGE RIPPLE EFFECT ON EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE.

WE WANT JUSTICE TO BE SERVED.

SO MANY LIVES, LIKE SHE WAS SAYING, HAVE BEEN CHANGED.

FROM WHATEVER SWIFT MOMENT OR DECISION THEY DECIDED TO MAKE, IT'S AFFECTED SO MANY PEOPLE IN SO MANY WAYS AND STILL AFFECTING PEOPLE 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

>> THERE'S ALWAYS HOPE UNTIL THERE IS NONE.

PEOPLE COMING FORWARD MAKES ME FEEL LIKE, GOSH, WE ARE DOING OUR JOB AS A MOTHER AND A SON STANDING TOGETHER HERE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY BEGGING FOR HELP TO BRING AWARENESS AND JUSTICE FOR SHEILA AND DANIELLE.

>> FOR "HEADLINE HUMBOLDT," THIS IS RYAN HUTSON.

>> WHAT A SAD, TRAGIC STORY.

REPORTED BY RYAN HUTSON.

WE WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ON A STORY WE REPORTED ABOUT DAVID GRUSH, AN AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE INSIDER SAYS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS EXOTIC HARDWARE OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN.

KRISTEN GILLIBRAND AND MARK RUBIO TAKE WHIFFLE BLOWERS SERIOUSLY AND ARE INVESTIGATING THE CLAIMS.

GRUSH IS BACKED UP BY SEVERAL OTHER WHIFFLE BLOWERS SOME OF WHOM HAVE FIRSTHAND ACCESS TO THESE PROGRAMS.

I TALKED TO RICH HOFFMAN OF WHAT IS NEED TO LIFT UAPs OUT OF THE SUPERMARKET TABLOIDS INTO ACADEMIA WHERE IT CAN BE PROPERLY STUDIED.

>> WE ARE STILL IN THE DARK IN MANY RESPECTS AND PROBABLY AT THE TODDLER STAGE OF OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THINGS.

I THINK IT IS JUST GOING REQUIRE A LOT MORE TIME AND STUDY.

AND THE PROBLEM WE'VE HAD WITH THIS PHENOMENON IS THAT IT'S BEEN LARGELY ANECDOTAL.

A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST TELLING STORIES.

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY?

AND UNTIL YOU HAVE ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC TOOLS TO GO AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE IN SOMETHING BEYOND THE VISIBLE RANGE OF THE ELECTRIC RO MAGNETIC SPECTRUM, THE IR RANGES OR MICROWAVE RANGES OR GAMMA RAY.

WHAT DO THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE IN THAT CONTEXT?

WE MIGHT LEARN MORE.

IT GOES BEYOND HEARING ANECDOTAL STORIES FROM PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, I SAW A UFO LAST NIGHT.

YOU ARE DOING AN INVESTIGATION ON IT AND, OH, BY THE WAY, IT IS ALREADY GONE.

>> YEAH.

>> SO WE HAVE TO GET REALLY SOLID DATA AND WE ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THAT HAPPENING WITH THE FACT THAT WE'VE IMPROVED ON OUR AIRCRAFT, OUR RADAR SYSTEMS ON THAT.

THAT IS WHY YOU ARE SEEING MILITARY CASES WHERE WE HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY ADVANCED AND STARTING TO DETECT THESE THINGS WE DIDN'T SEE BEFORE.

>> YEAH.

>> AND SO NOW LET'S TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET THESE MULTISENSORY KINDS OF DATA INPUTS, IF YOU WOULD, INTO OUR STUDY TO NOW ALLOW US TO GET BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE OBJECTS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT AEROS IS TRYING TO DO.

THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE ALL TRYING TO DO WITH THE ANTENNA VAT.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.

WE WANT SCIENTIFIC DATA BECAUSE SCIENTIFIC DATA WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND BETTER.

I THINK OUR TECHNOLOGY IS ADVANCING, IT IS GETTING CHEAPER TO USE AND WE ARE STARTING TO SEE WHERE WE CAN DO THAT.

>> AS PART OF A PARTNERSHIP WITH WETA ICON AMERICA, WE ARE HIGHLIGHTS THE REDWOODS.

KINSEY LAMB GIVES US A TOUR OF TRILLIAM FALLS LOCATED IN NATIONAL AND STATE PARKS.

>> WE ARE HERE AT TRILLIAM FALLS WITHIN REDWOOD NATIONAL AND STATE PARKS.

WITHIN THE NATIONAL PARK THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE STATE PARKS.

PRAYY CREEK, JED DIA SMITH, AND DELANO COASTWOOD STATE PARK.

THOSE WERE CONSERVED STARTING IN THE 1920s.

IT WASN'T UNTIL ABOUT 40 YEARS LATER THE NATIONAL PARK CAME AND PRESERVED MORE LAND.

THAT INCLUDES THE LAND WE ARE STANDING ON RIGHT NOW.

SO HERE WE ARE STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO A FALLEN REDWOOD TREE.

THESE TREES CAN BE ALMOST 400 FEET TALL.

AT THE SAME TIME, THEIR ROOTS ONLY GO 10 TO 12 FEET DEEP MAXIMUM.

INSTEAD OF HAVING NICE DEEP ROOTS, THESE TREES WILL REACH OUT IN OTHER DIRECTIONS AND TRY TO LINK ARMS AND THAT'S WHAT HELPS THEM TO HOLD THEMSELVES UP.

IT IS REALLY GOOD TO HAVE A BIG OLD GROWTH FOREST WHERE THEY HAVE THAT ESTABLISHED ROOT STRUCTURE.

THEY CAN HANG ON TO EACH OTHER FOR SUPPORT AND THEY ARE LESS LIKELY TO FALL DURING STORMS AND THINGS.

I WORK HERE AS AN INTERPRETER, WHICH IS KIND OF A CONFUSING TERM.

A LOT OF US INTERPRETERS SAY WHAT WE DO IS WE SPEAK FOR THE TREES.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYWHERE WHERE THAT IS MORE TRUE THAN HERE IN THE REDWOOD FOREST.

THE TALLEST TREES ON THE PLANET.

SO WHAT I DO IS STUDY UP ON WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING AROUND THE PARK AND THEN I GET TO SHARE ALL THAT COOL INFORMATION WITH PEOPLE THAT COME HERE.

MY ULTIMATE GOAL IS JUST TO HELP PEOPLE BOTH NEAR AND FAR, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE, PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE, PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN A REDWOOD TREE IN THEIR LIVES ALL FEEL CONNECTED TO OUR REDWOOD FOREST HERE IN THE FOREST.

>> CHECK OUR NEXT SHOW TUESDAY JULY 11th AT 10:00 P.M. THAT'S IT FOR TODAY.

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY.

STAY TUNED.

STAY INFORMED.