LIVE CC BY ABERDEEN CAPTIONING 800-688-6621 WWW.ABERCAP.COM >> COMING UP NEXT ON "HEADLINE HUMBOLDT," THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS LOOKING TO DEVELOP CHANGES TO ITS CANNABIS POLICY THAT WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED IN THE CONTROVERSIAL MEASURE A, OR HUMBOLDT CANNABIS REFORM INITIATIVE, AND THE BOARD WILL LIKELY PUT THOSE CHANGES ON A COMPEING BALLOT MEASURE.

ALSO CAL POLY HUMBOLDT LECTURER LOREN CANNON FROM THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION WILL JOIN US TO DISCUSS THE CONCERNS OF STATE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM EMPLOYEES AS THEY TRY TO NEGOTIATE A NEW CONTRACT AND AVOID A STRIKE.

COMING UP NOW ON "HEADLINE HUMBOLDT."

FROM THE TOP OF HUMBOLDT HILL, THIS IS "HEADLINE HUMBOLDT."

I'M JAMES FAULK.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

AFTER HAVING SEEN FIVE COLLISIONS ON EUREKA'S HENDERSON STREET FROM AFTER NOVEMBER 7 ALONE, THE HUMBOLDT FIRE DISTRICT HAS ISSUED A WARNING TO DRIVERS ASKING THAT THEY BE CAUTIOUS.

SLOW DOWN IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THEY ADVISE, AND BE ESPECIALLY MINDFUL OF ONE-WAY STREETS.

YEARS AGO, I WORKED FOR AN EDITOR AT THE "TIMES-STANDARD," UNDER A FORMER MARINE WHO WAS GRUFF AND DEMANDING TASKMASTER IN HIS BEST MOMENTS.

HE COULD BE CONFRONTATIONAL.

HE COULD BE MEAN.

AND SEVERAL TIMES I STORMED OUT OF THE OFFICE AND SWORE NEVER TO RETURN.

BUT ONE DAY EARLY IN MY CAREER, HE SENT ME OUT TO COVER A CRASH THAT HAD OCCURRED AT THE INDIANOLA CUTOFF ON HIGHWAY 101.

THE MAN DRIVING A SMALL SEDAN HAD RUN THE STOP SIGN THERE AND DARTED OUT INTO CROSS TRAFFIC.

THE DRIVER AND HIS TWO PASSENGERS ALL DIED OF A BROKEN NECK AFTER A T-BONE COLLISION.

ANOTHER DRIVER IN A SMALL PICKUP ALSO DIED OF A BROKEN NECK WHEN HE PLOWED INTO THAT SEDAN.

ONE SECOND THEY WERE ALL ALIVE, EVEN IF DISTRACTED.

THE NEXT MOMENT THEY WERE ALL DEAD.

I WITNESSED THE CARNAGE AND THOSE IMAGES ARE BURNED INTO MY BRAIN.

WHEN I LATER RETURNED TO THE OFFICE, MY EDITOR GREETED ME WITH TEARS IN HIS EYES AND A SOFT HAND ON MY SHOULDER.

I NEEDED IT.

I HAVE TEENAGERS, ONE WHO HAS JUST STARTED DRIVING, AND ANOTHER WHO IS WELL ON THE WAY.

I'VE TOLD THEM BOTH REPEATEDLY EVERY TIME YOU GET BEHIND THE WHEEL, YOU'RE TAKING YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS AS WELL AS THE LIVES OF EVERYONE ELSE AROUND YOU.

IT REQUIRES YOUR FULL ATTENTION AND YOU OWE IT TO YOURSELF AND THEM TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND BE VIGILANT.

A FEW MONTHS AFTER THE CRASH ON INDIANOLA, I LEARNED THAT MY BRUSQUE CITY EDITOR HAD LOST HIS ONE SON IN A CRASH YEARS BEFORE, AND THE PAIN OF THAT MOMENT HAD NEVER FADED.

THE INDIANOLA TRAGEDY HAD OBVIOUSLY BEEN PAINFUL FOR HIM IN WAYS I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND.

PLEASE FOLKS, SLOW DOWN, BE CAREFUL, STAY ALIVE.

NOW, THE NEWS.

THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THIS WEEK DIRECTED STAFF TO BEGIN PREPARING SEVERAL CHANGES TO ITS CANNABIS REGULATIONS, PARTLY IN RESPONSE TO THE CONTROVERSIAL HUMBOLDT CANNABIS REFORM INITIATIVE.

ACCORDING TO CRITICS, BALLOT MEASURE A, OR HCRI, WOULD INSTITUTE RATHER DRACONIAN LIMITS ON WHO CAN GROW AND WHERE, CHANGES THAT WOULD SERIOUSLY THREATEN FARMERS WHO ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING TO SURVIVE.

MEASURE A PROPONENTS, MEANWHILE, ARGUE THAT THE MEASURE WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE MANY OF THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS SUFFERED BY REGULAR CITIZENS DUE TO THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY.

WITH MEASURE A HEADED TO THE BALLOT IN MARCH, THE COUNTY IS LOOKING ITSELF TO TWEAK THE RULES AND ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, A REFORM PACKAGE THAT WOULD ALSO GO BEFORE THE VOTERS AS AN OPTION B. NATALYNNE DELAPP FROM THE HUMBOLDT COUNTY GROWERS ALLIANCE SUPPORTED THE MOVE FOR ANOTHER BALLOT MEASURE AND MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS AROUND HOW THE COUNTY SHOULD CONSIDER ATTRITION WITHIN THE INDUSTRY.

SHE ALSO ASKED THAT THE NUMBER OF CULTIVATION PERMITS BE 10% HIGHER THAN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY VERY CLEARLY, WE DO NOT SUPPORT A BLANKET MORATORIUM ON PERMIT CAPS THAT LOCK OUT NEW SMALL FARMERS UNDER AN ACRE.

WE SUPPORT OPTION E, WHICH IS THE ORDINANCE MODIFICATION.

WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU SET THE CAPS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE CURRENT APPLICATIONS AND PERMITS AND TO WHAT SUPERVISOR BUSHNELL SAID, PEOPLE ARE GOING BE ABLE TO HOLD ON TO THESE PERMITS THROUGH THE COMING YEARS AS EVERYTHING STABILIZES, SO I REALLY DO NOT THINK WE, AS A COUNTY, SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING ATTRITION, NOT ENCOURAGING OUR BUSINESSES TO SUCCEED, NOT HOPING THEY DIE.

PLEASE SET THAT CAP HIGHER, 10% MORE.

FINALLY, I THINK VOTERS SHOULD HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN MEASURE A AND MEASURE B AND WE LET THE BEST MEASURE WIN AND GIVE PUBLIC THOSE CHOICES BETWEEN ONE THAT SCRATCHES THAT ITCH AND THE OTHER THAT HAS ALL OF THE SIDE EFFECTS.

THANK YOU.

>>COUNTY STAFF WILL COME BACK WITH PROPOSED LANGUAGE AND WILL LIKELY LOWER THE CAP ON HOW MANY PERMITS ARE ALLOWED, AS WELL AS LOWERING THE LIMIT ON HOW MUCH ACREAGE CAN BE FARMED IN EACH WATERSHED.

>> WE ARE UP AGAINST A DECEMBER 8th TIMELINE THAT MAKES THINGS QUITE DIFFICULT.

I THINK THESE ARE REALLY GOOD IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR CURRENT SYSTEM WHILE POSSIBLY ALLOWING FOR THE SURVIVAL OF WHAT I SEE TO BE VERY RESPONSIBLE HUMBOLDT COUNTY RESIDENTS TRYING TO ENGAGE IN A CONSTANTLY CHANGING MARKET WORLD OF CANNABIS FARMING.

>> OKAY.

>> I'M OKAY WITH THIS, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY PREFERENCE, BUT I THINK THESE ARE SOME GOOD CHANGES.

>> THE HUMBOLDT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, AND A COMPANY CALLED OTHRAM, INC, ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE THREE OF THEM HELPED TO SOLVE A 43-YEAR-OLD MYSTERY.

ON FEBRUARY 11, 1980, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RESPONDED TO REPORTS OF HUMAN REMAINS OFF STAGECOACH ROAD IN TRINIDAD.

THERE THEY RECOVERED THE BODY OF A 20 TO 30-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WITH REDDISH BROWN HAIR, 5'9", IN A SLEEPING BAG.

THOUGH AUTHORITIES RECOVERED A LATENT FINGERPRINT AND CONDUCTED A FORENSIC DENTAL EXAM, THEY WERE UNABLE TO IDENTIFY THE WOMAN, WHO HAD APPARENTLY DIED OF A DRUG OVERDOSE.

A DNA SAMPLE WAS TAKEN AND RAN THROUGH EXISTING DATA BASES, BUT NO MATCH WAS EVER MADE.

LATER IN 2022, HOWEVER, THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TEAMED UP WITH OTHRAM, INC, A FORENSIC GENEALOGY LAB, WHO EVENTUALLY TRACKED DOWN SEVERAL LEADS.

IN AUGUST THE LAB REPORTED THAT THE DNA PROFILE MAY BE THAT OF DENISE GAIL CRUZ, BORN IN 1953.

THEY WERE ALSO ABLE TO LOCATE HER BROTHER, MARK, FROM COLORADO.

BY OBTAINING HIS DNA THEY WERE ULTIMATELY ABLE TO CONFIRM THE IDENTITY.

FOR UNKNOWN REASONS DENISE STOPPED COMMUNICATING WITH FAMILY MEMBERS.

THEIR LAST CONTACT WITH HER WAS IN SEPTEMBER OF 1979.

DENISE HAD BEEN LIVING A TRANSIENT LIFESTYLE AND WAS SUFFERING FROM UNTREATED MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

AS THE FAMILY WAS NOT SURE WHETHER THE LOSS OF CONTACT WAS INTENTIONAL, DENISE WAS NEVER REPORTED AS MISSING.

ANYONE WITH INFORMATION ABOUT DENISE CRUZ AND HER LAST KNOWN ACTIVITIES OR WHEREABOUTS IS ASKED TO CONTACT SHERIFF'S COLD CASE INVESTIGATOR MIKE FRIDLEY AT 441-3024.

>> WE ARE NOW JOINED BY LOREN CANNON, FROM THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION.

HE IS A LECTURER AT HUMBOLDT STATE OR CAL POLY HUMBOLDT.

HE IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT A LEGAL PROCESS.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> GLAD TO BE HERE.

>> LET'S START WITH HOW MANY PEOPLE THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION REPRESENTS UP AND DOWN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA?

>> YEAH.

SO ABSOLUTELY, THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION IS, I THINK, THE LARGEST UNION FOR HIGHER EDUCATORS IN THE COUNTRY.

IT IS A UNION THAT REPRESENTS FACULTY MEMBERS ALL UP AND DOWN THE STATE, ALL 23 COLLEGES, ALL 23 UNIVERSITIES, ALL UNIVERSITIES THAT HAVE CAL STATE UNIVERSITY IN THEIR NAME.

THAT AMOUNTS TO 29,000 WORKERS.

AND THOSE WORKERS ARE THOSE WHO ARE IN THE CLASSROOM TEACHING CALIFORNIA STUDENTS, COUNSELING CALIFORNIA STUDENTS WHEN THAM COME TO A CSU.

HELPING LIBRARIANS IN OUR LIBRARIES, COACHES ON THE PLAYING FIELD.

WE REPRESENT CLASSROOM FACULTY, LECTURERS, TENURE LINE FOLKS, COUNSELORS, LIBRARIANS AND COACHES.

>> CAN YOU BRIEFLY OUTLINE WHAT THE PROCESS IS?

FROM THE OUTSIDE IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING BUT WE CAN'T REALLY TELL WHAT IS IMPORTANT IN THESE EVENTS.

I IMAGINE THERE IS A TIMELINE.

YOU ARE COMING TO THE END OF AN EXISTING CONTRACT.

CAN YOU GO THROUGH THAT?

>> YES.

WE HAVE BEEN AT THE END OF AN EXISTING CONTRACT, BUT WE HAD ONE MORE YEAR, WE HAD A CONTRACT REOPEN, ACTUALLY.

SO RIGHT NOW, I GUESS OVER THE SUMMER WE STARTED BARGAINING ON THE REOPENER.

NOT ON THE FULL CONTRACT, BUT A FEW ARTICLES IN THAT CONTRACT.

AND THAT IS IMPORTANT, I THINK, WITH REGARDS TO HOW WE UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS.

THIS IS A REOPENER ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ARTICLES.

WE SAT DOWN AT THE TABLE WITH MANAGEMENT, THAT IS THE BARGAINING TEAM FROM THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE.

I AM HONORED ENOUGH TO BE A PART OF THE BARGAINING TEAM FOR CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION, CFA, AND THAT INCLUDES FACULTY MEMBERS FROM ALL 23 CAMPUSES.

AND SO IT IS AWESOME.

SO WE'VE BEEN -- WE NEGOTIATED WITH THEM AT THE TABLE OVER THE SUMMER AND WHAT'S REALLY FASCINATING THIS LAST SUMMER IS THAT WE OPENED UP THE BARGAINING PROCESS AND WE HAD RANK-AND-FILE UNION MEMBERS IN PERSON WITH US AT THE TABLE, SOMETIMES ON ZOOM.

SO WE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AND WE DIDN'T GET ANYWHERE.

WE ARE ASKING FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO ALLOW US TO BETTER SERVE THE STUDENTS OF CALIFORNIA.

THIS INCLUDES ISSUES OF WORKLOAD, BOTH FOR TEACHING FACULTY AND ALSO FOR COUNSELORS.

IT DOES INCLUDE SALARY.

IT DOES INCLUDE OUR ARTICLE WITH HEALTH AND SAFETY, HOW WE CAN MAKE OUR CAMPUSES HEALTHIER AND MORE SAFE FOR EVERYONE.

SO WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AT THE TABLE.

BASICALLY DIDN'T GET ANYWHERE.

YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T WILLING TO BUDGE ON HARDLY ANYTHING.

AND THE -- WHAT THEY PROPOSED IN TERMS OF A SALARY FOR THIS ONE YEAR KEEPS US WAY BELOW WHAT INFLATION IS BRINGING TO US RIGHT NOW.

SO WE DECLARED IMPASSE.

THAT WAS CERTIFIED BY THE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES RELATION BOARD.

>> SO THEY HAVE TO REVIEW DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE UNDER THIS, TO BE LIKE A REFEREE, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> I'M SORRY.

>> YOU SAID IT WAS APPROVED BY THE STATE BOARD.

THEY ARE LIKE A REFEREE IN THIS PROCESS?

>> MAYBE I WOULD SAY THAT.

OR WHEN WE REACH IMPASSE WE ARE SAYING THESE TWO NEGOTIATING SIDES ARE REALLY FAR APART.

>> OKAY.

>> AND WE NEED SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES BARGAINING AT THAT TABLE.

SO AFTER WE DECLARED IMPASSE, WE HAD A MEDIATOR THAT IS ASSIGNED TO THIS PROCESS AND THE MEDIATOR GOES BETWEEN OUR TEAM IN ONE ROOM AND THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE TEAM IN ANOTHER ROOM TO TRY TO BRING US CLOSER TOGETHER.

AND BASICALLY THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE TEAM DIDN'T BUDGE ON OUR PROPOSALS.

SO AFTER THAT, WE GO TO A FACT-FINDING PROCESS AND THAT IS WHERE OUR FOLKS BRING FACTSES TO A NEUTRAL PARTY.

AND BASICALLY A LOT OF THE FACT-FINDING PROCESS THIS TIME IS TO SAY, YES WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS COMPLETELY AFFORDABLE BY THE CSU.

AND THEIR FACT FINDERS, I ASSUME, I'M NOT PART OF THIS PROCESS, HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY ARE NOT AFFORDABLE OR INAPPROPRIATE IN SOME WAY.

>> YEAH.

>> THE FACT-FINDING REPORT IS NOT OUT YET, BUT IT IS ONLY AFTER THAT REPORT COMES OUT AND WE HAVE A 10-DAY BLACKOUT PERIOD WE ARE LEGAL TO CALL A STRIKE.

>> SO NOW DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF A TIMELINE OF WHEN THAT MIGHT COME OUT?

>> YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE OUT IN A WEEK OR TWO.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I DO HAVE SOME BREAKING INFORMATION FOR YOU THAT HAS JUST BEEN ANNOUNCED TODAY EARLIER BY OUR CFA LEADERSHIP.

WELL, MAYBE I SHOULD BACK UP AND SAY WE DID HAVE A STRIKE AUTHORIZATION VOTE.

95% OF MEMBERS -- >> YEAH.

95%.

>> THAT TOOK THAT VOTE SAID YES.

WE ARE READY TO AUTHORIZE OUR LEADERS TO CALL A STRIKE.

>> HOW BIG OF A MAJORITY WAS REQUIRED FOR THAT?

HOW MUCH OF THE VOTE COULD HAVE BASICALLY APPROVED THAT MOVE?

>> YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A RULE ABOUT IT.

OBVIOUSLY IF ONLY 30% OF OUR MEMBERS OR THOSE POLLED WANTED TO BE IN FAVOR OF THE STRIKE AUTHORIZATION, THAT WOULD BE WORRISOME.

>> FOR SURE.

>> BUT IT WAS 95% SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY -- THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE FACULTY MEMBERS ARE BEHIND THIS EFFORT AND REALIZE IN ORDER TO SERVE THE STUDENTS OF CALIFORNIA AND DO THE MISSION OF THE CSU, WE NEED SOME MOVEMENT FROM THE BARGAINING TEAM.

BUT THE BREAKING NEWS THAT I MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO IS THAT WE ARE, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE UNION HAS DECIDED THAT WE ARE GOING HAVE ONE-DAY STRIKES IN A NUMBER OF CSUs IN THE STATE AND THIS IS BREAKING HOT OFF THE PRESSES.

AND THAT WE ARE GOING HAVE ONE-DAY STRIKES ON DECEMBER 4, 5, 6, AND 7, AT FOUR DIFFERENT CSUs.

TO BASICALLY ILLUSTRATE THE COMMITMENT WE HAVE TO MAKING THIS A BETTER CONTRACT FOR OURSELVES AND OUR STUDENTS.

AND THAT WE'RE SERIOUS THAT WE NEED SOME MOVEMENT ON THESE ISSUES.

>> NOW CAL POLY HUMBOLDT IS NOT ON THAT LIST.

I HAD THAT PRESS RELEASE >> OH, YOU DID.

>> IT IS ALL HIGHLIGHTED.

CAL POLY POMONA, SAN FRANCISCO STATE, CSU LOS ANGELES AND SACRAMENTO STATE.

HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT PICKING THE CAMPUSES AND WHY NOT HUMBOLDT, IS THE QUESTION?

>> HONESTLY, I WASN'T PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.

THAT FINAL DECISION WAS THAT OF THE LEADERSHIP.

WE HAVE 23 CAMPUSES AND THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS TO DO THIS.

A ONE-DAY STRIKE ILLUSTRATES THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE CONTRACT.

IF A ONE-DAY STRIKE DOESN'T BROADCAST THAT SERIOUSNESS, DOESN'T BROADCAST OUR COMMITMENT, THEN THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE LAST STRIKE.

AFTER THE FACT-FINDING REPORT COMES OUT AND THERE'S AN ASUMPX -- ASSUMPTION THESE DATES ARE AFTER THAT, WE ARE LEGAL TO STRIKE.

SO THESE ARE IN THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER.

WE COULD CALL ANOTHER STRIKE IN JANUARY WHEN WE START BACK TO SCHOOL.

SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN ILLUSTRATION OF OUR COMMITMENT AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE SAYS IN RESPONSE TO THAT.

>> YOU KNOW, IT IS INTERESTING.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN GETTING YOUR CONCERNS HEARD AND DEMONSTRATING THAT COMMITMENT, BUT ALSO NOT DISRUPTING THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS FOR STUDENTS.

IS THAT FAIR TO SAY?

>> I THINK SO.

I FEEL SO STRONGLY AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS AT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEETING DOWN AT LONG BEACH TWO DAYS AGO.

THERE WAS A VERY LARGE RALLY AND A LOT OF STUDENTS WERE THERE.

I THINK STUDENTS RECOGNIZE IF WE WERE TO HAVE A STRIKE, ONE DAY OR EVEN LONGER, THE POINT IS NOT SO MUCH TO DISRUPT WHAT WE DO IN THE CLASSROOM, WHAT WE DO ON THE PLAYING FIELD, WHAT WE DO IN THE COUNSELOR'S OFFICE OR THE LIBRARY.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS BRING THE CSU UP TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN DO OUR JOBS IN A WAY THAT FULFILLS THE MISSION OF THE CSU.

SO HAVING FACULTY MEMBERS WITH EXCESSIVE WORKLOAD, HAVING COUNSELORS, SO MANY OF THE CSUs RIGHT NOW ARE FAR BELOW THE RATIO OF COUNSELORS TO STUDENTS THAN IS RECOMMENDED BY INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COUNSELORS AT CAL POLY HUMBOLDT.

NONE OF OUR COUNSELORS HAVE PERMANENT JOBS.

THEY ARE TEMPORARY WORKERS.

THAT IS NOT THE WAY TO VALUE THOSE SERVING OUR STUDENTS.

>> YEAH.

>> THIS WORKLOAD CREEP, LET'S STOP THE WORKLOAD CREEP SO WE CAN SPEND THAT QUALITY TIME WITH OUR STUDENTS.

SO THE GOAL IS, YOU KNOW, NOT SO MUCH, OF COURSE, TO DISRUPT EDUCATION, BUT TO WORK FOR A BETTER CSU IN THE FUTURE.

SO, YEAH, ONE DAY STRIKES TO, I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT, POMONA, SAN FRANCISCO STATE, CSU LA AND SACRAMENTO STATE.

THAT IS SENDING UP A FLARE GUN IN A SENSE.

YOU KNOW?

AND THEN MAYBE THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE WILL START TO COME TOGETHER, WE CAN COME TOGETHER ON SOME OF THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES.

>> TO SORT OF PARTICULARLY FOCUS ON CAL POLY HUMBOLDT FOR A SECOND, I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES AT THE UNIVERSITY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A CAL POLY INSTITUTION.

A LOT OF PROGRAMS ADDED, CLASSES ADDED, MONEY SPENT.

DO YOU FEEL AS A MEMBER OF THE FACULTY AND REPRESENTATIVE OF THE UNION THAT STAFF INVESTMENT HAS MIRRORED THOSE CHANGES OR ARE YOU STILL OPERATING UNDER THE OLD REGIME?

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL, I DO KNOW -- WE DID HAVE SOME NEW TENURE LINE FACULTY MEMBERS HIRED, SO THAT IS A GOOD THING.

THE CAL POLY HUMBOLDT TRANSFORMATION IS BARRELING ALONG AT AN INCREDIBLE PACE.

SO THERE CERTAINLY ARE SOME GOOD THINGS, SOME EXCITING THINGS HAPPENING ON CAMPUS.

THERE ARE ALSO REASONS FOR CONCERN IN TERMS OF OUR TENURE DENSITY RATE IS NOT WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> TENURE DENSITY, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T RECOGNIZE THIS.

THAT IN TERMS OF THOSE OF US WHO ARE TEACHING IN THE CLASSROOM, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE IDENTIFIED AS PERMANENT FACULTY MEMBERS AND THERE ARE TEMPORARY FACULTY MEMBERS.

PERMANENT FACULTY MEMBERS THAT IS WHEN YOU MIGHT HERE SOMEBODY GOES UP FOR TENURE, GETS TENURE.

THOSE WORDS APPLY FOR PERMANENT FACULTY MEMBERS.

THOSE WORDS DON'T APPLY FOR TEMPORARY FACULTY MEMBERS.

TENURE AND PERMANENCY IS NOT A ROUTE TO BE ACHIEVED IS ONE IS HIRED IN A TEMPORARY STATUS.

SO RIGHT NOW AT HUMBOLDT STATE AND ACROSS THE CSU, ANY STUDENT IS MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE HAVING SOMEONE AT THE FRONT OF THE CLASS THAT IS A TEMPORARY FACULTY MEMBER, A LECTURER, A OPPOSED TO SOMEONE WHO IS PERMANENT.

I MYSELF AM A TEMPORARY FACULTY MEMBER AND I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 17 YEARS.

>> WOW.

>> SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TENURE DENSITY, WHAT THAT MEANS IS WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF FACULTY MEMBERS WHO HAVE THAT PERMANENT STATUS THAT ARE SEEN AS PERMANENT MEMBERS OF THE EDUCATIONAL COMMUNITY, AND CAN KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, PUT IN ROOTS IN HUMBOLDT COUNTY AS A RECOGNIZED MEMBER OF THE FACULTY.

>> YEAH.

>> SO I THINK OUR TENURE DENSITY COULD BE INCREASED AS WELL.

AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR OTHER UNIONS.

WE HAVE SIX UNIONS ON CAMPUS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS SOME OF OUR STAFF PEOPLE, NOT THE FACULTY MEMBERS, BUT STAFF PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY STAFF PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING TWO OR THREE JOBS RIGHT NOW.

>> YEAH.

>> THAT IS CONCERNING.

>> OUR TEAMSTERS ON CAMPUS ARE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM IN THEIR CONTRACT NEGOTIATION.

>> THEY ARE STRIKING?

>> THEY ARE ACTUALLY PLANNING A STRIKE FOR THIS UPCOMING TUESDAY.

>> WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN YOU GUYS?

IS THERE ANY PARTNERSHIP AT ALL OR YOU SUPPORT EACH OTHER MORALLY AND THERE IS NO OVERLAP?

>> WE DO OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT OURSELVES MORALLY.

IT WAS SO EDIFYING AT THE BOARD MEETING, IT WAS CFA, THE TEAM STERS AND A COUPLE OTHER MEMBERS.

IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS TRAIN GO, TO SERVE OUR STUDENTS, WE NEED TO HAVE EVERYBODY TREATED WITH RESPECT, WITH DIGNITY.

SO THAT MEANS FOR TEAMSTER FOLKS, THEY ARE, WE CAN'T HAVE A UNIVERSITY WITHOUT OUR LIGHTS GOING OUT, WITHOUT OUR ELEVATORS IN BIG -- I'M IN THE BSS BUILDING, WE HAVE AN ELEVATOR.

IF THAT ELEVATOR DOESN'T WORK, THAT IS A HARDSHIP FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE TO GET TO THEIR CLASSES.

ALL OF THE WORK THEY DO TO MAKE SURE OUR PLUMBING WORKS, THAT IS REALLY CRUCIAL.

THE WORK THAT STAFF DO IS SUPER CRUCIAL IN ORDER THAT STUDENTS HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO, THEY HAVE AN OFFICE WHERE THEY CAN ASK A QUESTION OF AND GET A FORM FOR.

FACULTY MEMBERS, WE ARE TEACHING THEM AND HELPING THEM IN THE LIBRARY AND THE COUNSELING OFFICE AND ON THE FIELD.

WE RECOGNIZE OUR FATES ARE INTERTWINED.

IN TERMS OF THE LEGALITY, CFA IS TOTALLY IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE TEAMSTERS.

AS A FACULTY MEMBER I'M NOT LEGAL TO GO ON STRIKE ON TUESDAY.

THAT IS NOT LEGAL FOR ME TO DO.

I CAN IN BETWEEN CLASSES AND IF I CHOOSE TO, TO BE OUT THERE SUPPORTING THEM ON THEIR PICKET LINE AND I WILL BE THERE AS MUCH AS I CAN.

AND BASICALLY TAKE MY TEACHER WORK AND PUT IT TO, YOU KNOW, 6:00 P.M. TO 12:00 A.M. THAT DAY ON TUESDAY.

SOLIDARITY FOR ALL OF US IS CRUCIAL.

AND WE FEEL IT.

WE SEE EACH OTHER ON CAMPUS AND WE KNOW WHAT ALL OF US ARE GOING THROUGH.

>> IS THERE ANY PROBLEM OR POSSIBILITY OF LIKE ONE CONTRACT BEING USED AS A BENCHMARK FOR THE OTHER OR IS IT BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT CLASSES OF EMPLOYEES THAT WANT TO APPLY?

>> YEAH.

WE DO HAVE THE SEPARATE CONTRACTS.

THERE ARE -- SO IF THE TEAMSTERS WIN THEIR CONTRACT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN OUR PROCESSES CHANGE AT ALL.

>> OKAY.

>> WE WILL CONTINUE THE PROCESS WE HAVE.

THERE ARE SOMETIMES THAT CONTRACTS HAVE A KIND OF STIPULATION THAT SAYS IF ANOTHER EMPLOYEE UNIT GETS A CERTAIN INCREASE IN SALARY, THAT THEIRS CAN BE RECONSIDERED IF THEY HAVE JUST SIGNED A NEW CONTRACT.

I'M NOT 100% SURE IF THAT EXISTS FOR TEAMSTERS OR OTHERS.

THAT IS A LEGAL POSSIBILITY BASED ON A PARTICULAR UNION'S CONTRACT.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE NOTICED AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE OVER THE YEARS IS THE RISING FEES FOR STUDENTS IN TERMS OF TUITION AND BOOKS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE SYSTEM, THEY SEE KIND OF LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE OR BUREAUCRATIC BLOAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY KNOW ENOUGH OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION OR WHATEVER TO SEPARATE FACULTY FROM THAT FACT.

CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS TO WHY WHAT IS SPENT ON FACULTY IS NOT PART OF THAT PROBLEM?

I MEAN, LAST WEEK WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE CHANCELLOR MAKES AN OUTSIZED AMOUNT OF MONEY COMPARED TO EVERYBODY ELSE.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE THAT PROBLEM IS AN HOW THAT IS SEPARATE FROM WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ASKING FOR?

>> YEAH.

WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

I TEACH IN THE PHILOSOPHY DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE A PH.D.

IN PHILOSOPHY.

MY FIELD IS MORAL PHILOSOPHY OR APPLIED ETHICS.

I THINK I MENTIONED IN OUR SHORT CONVERSATION LAST WEEK, A BUDGET IS A MORAL DOCUMENT.

IT IS A MORAL DOCUMENT.

TAKING THE FUNDS FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND DECIDING WHERE TO PUT THEM.

WHAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF WORK TO SUPPORT.

WHAT KIND OF WORK TO REGARD A CSU CONTINGENT.

IN TERMS OF THAT, WE HAVE A BRAND NEW CHANCELLOR, I THINK SHE STARTED OCTOBER 1st.

SHE IS MAKING ABOUT $1 MILLION A YEAR.

$983,000, A YEAR, WHICH IS 66% INCREASE FROM THE CHANCELLOR BEFORE HER.

>> WOW.

>> SO SHE IS MAKING $983,000 A YEAR, PRESIDENT BIDEN MAKES ABOUT $400,000 A YEAR.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE CHANCELLOR OF THE CSU SYSTEM IS MAKING MORE THAN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

I MENTIONED LAST WEEK, TOO, HER HOUSING ALLOWANCE, WHICH IS ALMOST $100,000 A MONTH -- SORRY, A YEAR, AND SHE ALSO GETS A CAR ALLOWANCE.

SO SHE HAS MONEY FOR A HOUSE, MONEY FOR A CAR, AND THE HOUSING ALLOWANCE ALONE IS FAR GREATER THAN THE MEDIUM HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN CALIFORNIA.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE MONEY FROM CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS IS BEING SPENT IN THIS WAY, THAT A PERSON HAS FREE HOUSE AND FREE CAR AND MAKES TWICE AS MUCH AS PRESIDENT BIDEN.

>> YEAH.

>> CFA DID A STUDY LAST YEAR, I DON'T HAVE THE FIGURES IN FRONT OF ME, MOST OF OUR CAMPUS 23 PRESIDENTS MAKE AROUND WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN MAKES.

SO WE HAVE 23 PEOPLE MAKING ABOUT $350,000 TO $400,000 A YEAR.

AGAIN, THEY ALSO GET A HOUSE AND A CAR.

SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY ARE WE FUNDING THE ADMINISTRATION IN THIS WAY?

THAT IS THE MONEY WE HAVE TO RUN THE CSU.

>> WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME.

>> SAYING THOSE BRAND NEW LECTURERS THAT ARE HIRED ON, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THEM SUFFICIENTLY NOT TO HAVE TWO JOBS.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ONE JOB.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THAT SHOULD BE A RIGHT, I THINK.

WE HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT.

WHAT IS THE AVERAGE SALARY FOR A FACULTY MEMBER?

DO YOU KNOW THAT FIGURE OFFHAND?

>> OFF HAND -- >> 10 SECONDS.

>> I DON'T THINK DO.

>> OKAY.

>> I DON'T THINK I DO.

I MIGHT HAVE A PIECE OF PAPER ON MY DESK, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT ON ME.

BASICALLY THE FIGURES THEY MAKE ABOUT FIVE OR SIX TIMES, THE PRESIDENTS MAKE FIVE OR SIX TIMES WHAT A FACULTY MEMBER MAKES.

>> WE NEED TO GO.

THIS WAS SO EDIFYING.

GOOD LUCK IN YOUR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, SIR.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> ALL RIGHT.

STAY TUNED.

STAY INFORMED.