Headline Humboldt
Headline Humboldt: November 24th, 2023
Season 4 Episode 8 | 28m 29sVideo has Closed Captions
We interview CR Professor Stuart Altschuler, on the protests to the war in Gaza.
We review the protests this past week surrounding and shutting down the California Democratic Party convention in Sacramento in order to bring attention to the ongoing war in Gaza. We interview CR Professor Stuart Altschuler, a Hum. Co. party delegate and Jewish man who witnessed the protests and and had what he describes as a remarkable conversation with some of those involved.
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Headline Humboldt
Headline Humboldt: November 24th, 2023
Season 4 Episode 8 | 28m 29sVideo has Closed Captions
We review the protests this past week surrounding and shutting down the California Democratic Party convention in Sacramento in order to bring attention to the ongoing war in Gaza. We interview CR Professor Stuart Altschuler, a Hum. Co. party delegate and Jewish man who witnessed the protests and and had what he describes as a remarkable conversation with some of those involved.
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GOT SHUT DOWN TO PROTESTS BY ACTIVIST DECRYING THE WAR IN GAZA.
WE'LL ALSO SPEAK WITH THE ALSO DEMOCRATIC STUART ALTSCHULER AND ENGAGED WITH THE PROTESTERS AS A MOVING KVERPTION.
COMING UP NOW, ON HEADLINE HUMBOLDT.
FROM THE TOP OF HEADLINE HUMBOLDT THIS IS HEADLINE HUMBOLDT I'M JAMES FAULK THANKS FOR JOINING US.
AND STIMULATE DIALOGUE ON SOME RECENT AT THE CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION HELD THIS PAST WEEKEND CAN ONLY BE CONSIDERED A SUCCESS.
AND FOCUSED PEOPLE'S ATTENTION WHAT THEY CONSIDERED TO BE AN UNJUST BETWEEN THE PALESTINIANS AND THE ISRAELIS THAT.
SHOUTED ONE CANDIDATE DOWN IN ENTIRELY AND MADE IT POSSIBLE TO CONTINUE BUSINESS IN THE EVENING.
PROTESTERS WERE DETERMINED AND BUT NOT VIOLENT.
LARGELY DISTINGUISHED THEMSELVES FROM OTHER RECENT PROCEED TES THAT HAVE END SUCH AS JANUARY 6th.
THE CONFLICT IN GAZA AT THIS MOMENT IS COMPLICATED AND HORRIFIC.
WITH HISTORY AND CULTURAL BIASES.
>> THAT WHEN THAT MANY FEEL ARE EMBLEM PARTICULAR IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF FORCING THE CONVERSATION WITHOUT THE USE OF ACTUAL FORCE.
KEET GENERAL MANAGER DESCRIBED HIS EXPERIENCES.
WE WERE SITTING IN THE UPPER LOBBY AND WE HEARD THE SHOUTING AND THE DRUM BEATS AND THE CHANTS AND THINGS.
IT WAS OFF IN THE DISTANCE.
AND I WELL OKAY THEY'RE HERE AND THEY'VE BEEN AROUND ALL DAY TODAY.
YOU HEAR THESE KIND OF CHANTS AT ANY PROTESTS AND FLAG-WAVING ORBAN YOU ARE WAVING.
SO WE WATCHED THEM COME BY AND THEY KEPT COMING, AND IT DIDN'T SEEM TO US WELL WE'LL SIT HERE AND SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING.
THEY WERE GOING TOWARD THE LARGE BALLROOM WHICH IS WHERE THE REST OF THE VOTING WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE AND SOME OF CAUCUS SOME OF THE MEETING ROOMS RIGHT UP NEXT TO IT.
THEN WE AWESOME OF THE SECURITY FOLKS COME THROUGH AND THEY WERE SAYING TO OTHER FOLKS AND SAID TO US, IF YOU WANT TO BE ESCORTED OUT OF THE BUILDING YOU NEED TO COME WITH US RIGHT NOW.
ESCORTED OUT OF THE BUILDING, OKAY.
THEN THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TO LOCK THE BUILDING DOWN.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GET OUT YOU NEED TO COME WITH US NOW.
WE THOUGHT OKAY THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SERIOUS THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS.
SO WE DID AND WE WENT THROUGH THE DISPLAY WHERE THEY HAD THE DISPLAY BOOTHS WHERE PEOPLE WERE SET UP LIKE THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY ALLIANCE HAVE ALL OF THEIR STUFF.
PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE IN A ANOTHER PART OF THE BUILDING YOU WEREN'T NECESSARY THIS WAS HAPPENING OVER HERE.
WE DID NOT SEE ANY KIND OF VIOLENCE.
WE DID NOT SEE ANY REALLY AGGRESSIVE CONFRONTATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT WAS SIMPLY PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE EXPRESSING THEIR OPINIONS.
TRYING TO GET SOME HEADLINES AND ATTENTION WHICH THEY DID.
AND THEN WE MOVED FURTHER AWAY.
THE MORE POLICE WE SAW THE CLOSER WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO GET WHATEVER ACTION THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT UP IN THAT.
AND WE FINALLY LEFT THE AREA, AND WHAT THE WORD CAME LATER WHEN THE FOLKS WERE ASKED TO DISPERSE THEY DID.
THEY WENT HOME.
>> CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC RUSTY HICKS WHO LIVES IN ARCATA.
>> YESTERDAY'S PROCEEDINGS BEGAN WITH A MOVING MESSAGE OF PEACE.
OF UNITY, OF ACCEPTANCE.
A MESSAGE THAT WAS EMBRACED BY EVERY PART OF THIS PARTY.
THROUGHOUT THE DAY DELEGATES AND PARTICIPANTS ALIKE HONORED THE SPIRIT OF THAT MESSAGE BY ENGAGING ONE ANOTHER IN PEACEFUL COMMUNITY AND RESPECTFUL CONVERSATION.
YET THE DAIKIN COLLUDED LEFT ME WITH A SERIES OF EVENTS THAT LEFT ME SADDENED AND DISAPPOINTED.
IN THE LATE AFTERNOON INTO THE EARLY EVENING A NONDELEGATE FOLKS ENTERED THE CONVENTION CENTER AND OCCUPIED A NUMBER OF SPACES THROUGHOUT THE VENUE.
DELEGATES AND PARTICIPANTS WERE TEMPORARILY UNABLE TO FREELY MOVE THROUGHOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
TWO SECURITY AGENCY SUSTAINED MINOR INJURIES.
THE EVENING'S MEETING.
AND EVENTS WERE CANCELED.
TO RESTORE ORDER, TO THE VENUE, TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF ALL.
THE PARTY HAS ALREADY INITIATED A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION OF YESTERDAY'S EVENTS AND WILL TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THAT ANY DELEGATE WHO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED IN OR AIDED IN THE FURTHERANCE OF THOSE ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS IN VIOLATION OF OUR PARTY'S CODE OF CONDUCT, WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR PARTY'S BYLAWS.
>> I'M NOW JOINED BY STUART ALTSCHULER WHO'S A DEEGATE FROM HUMBOLDT COUNTY.
AND ENGAGED SOME OF THE PROTESTERS.
IF YOU DON'T START WITH WHAT YOU WERE DOING WHEN THIS STARTED TO GET OFF THE GROUND.
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL I LOVE BEING AT THESE CONVENTIONS.
IT'S LIKE YOU SEE IN THE MOVIES.
PEOPLE CHEERING AND PROTESTING.
>> YEAH.
>> IT'S WONDERFUL.
AND PARTICIPATING IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS FOR ME IS LIKE PART OF MY HISTORY GOING TO COLLEGE BETWEEN 1968 AND '72 WHEN MOVEMENTS WERE UNFOLDING EVERYWHERE >> SO PROTESTS ARE NOTHING NEW FOR YOU.
>> YEAH.
SO IT WAS A BREAK IN SATURDAY, AND IT WAS ABOUT A 5:00 AND I DIDN'T HAVE MY NEXT CAUCUS LGBTQ UNTIL 7 AND I WAS EXHAUSTED SO I SAT DOWN IN ONE OF THE MORE COMFORTABLE CHAIRS IN THE LOWER LOBBY AND A BIG ESCALATOR AND BALCONY AT THE NEXT LEVEL, AND THE NEXT THING I'M HEARING CHANTS GOING ON FROM INSIDE THE BUILDING AND UP ON THE BALCONY AREA AND FLAGS AND THE CROWD JUST KEPT GETTING BIGGER UP THERE.
AND THEN A PARADE BEHIND ME THIS BIG GLASS WALL AND DOORS WHERE PEOPLE WOULD COME IN AND GET SEARCHED CAME DOWN J STREET.
>> ON THE OUTSIDE BUT THERE WERE HUNDREDS THERE.
PALESTINIAN FLAGS, KIDS TO ADULTS.
AND THEY STARTED MAKING NOISE, AND HAD A CERTAIN POINT I GOT UP AND IT WAS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS HOW DO PEOPLE KNOW TO KNOW TO PUT ON YOUR VIDEO CAMERA.
SOMETHING SAID START FILMING THIS STUART.
AND I START PANNING, AND SOMEONE CAME RUNNING DOWN THE ESCALATOR, AND GOT PAST THE SECURITY GUARD AND ASK GOT ONE OF THE DOORS OPEN.
THAT GOT THEM FLOODING IN.
AND I HAVE A SUSPICION THAT MANY WERE LET IN AND WERE UP THERE AT ANOTHER PLACE.
SO IT IT COULDN'T BEEN JUST DELEGATES.
THIS IS WHAT RUSTY WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN THE DEMONSTRATORS CAME UNTIL, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAD TO BE PALESTINIAN FLAGS, MOST OF THEM THEIR FACES WERE EXPOSED.
THERE WERE KIDS IN THE GROUP CARRYING SIGNS.
A FEW OF THEM HAD THE MASK THAT COVERED EVERYTHING BUT THEIR EYES.
FOURSOME REASON FOR ME MINER VOICE SAID YOU'RE SAFE.
JUST KEEP FILMING.
I STARTED WALKING UP THE STAIRS.
THEY TURNED OFF THE ESCALATORS AND I KEPT FILMING FRONT AND BACK AS I WENT UP.
THERE WERE EVEN MORE PEOPLE UP THERE NOW.
AND THIS ONE MAN CAME UP TO ME WHO I WOULD SAY 40ISH AND HE ASKED ME WHEN THE ELECTION WAS.
THERE'S AN ELECTION.
YOU MEAN THE ENDORSEMENTY LEX FOR THE CANDIDATES.
>> SO -- TO SEE IF THEY WE WOULD ENDORSE ONE OF THEM.
SO I SHOWED THEM MY PHONE THEY LEST HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.
AND YOU COULD SEE FROM THE LOOK OF ON HIS FACE THEY WERE DEMONSTRATING AND THEIR PURPOSE WAS TO DISRUPT THE ELECTION.
SO WHEN A LOT OF THEM SAT DOWN IN THE AREA WHICH PREVENTED FROM HAVING THE CAUCASUS, AND OTHER THINGS.
THEY GOT TO DO A SHUT DOWN ANYWAY.
BUT AS I'M TALKING TO THIS ONE MAN ABOUT THREE OR FOUR OTHERS CAME OVER TO WHERE I WAS.
AND WERE SAYING SOME THINGS TO ME.
ANOTHER ONE STARTED CHALLENGE BE.
WHY ISN'T THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY CALLING FOR A CEASE-FIRE.
WHY ISN'T BIDEN.
WAIT A MINUTE, FIRST OF ALL I'M A JEWISH MAN AND I'M AMERICAN AND I DO SUPPORT A CEASE-FIRE.
I THINK WHAT'S GOING ON BOTH SIDES IS HORRENDOUS, AND SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING.
AT THAT POINT WHAT STARTED OUT OF A PERCEIVED CONFRONTATION, TURNED INTO I MEAN IT FELT IT COULD HAVE GONE ON FOR 20 MINUTES.
THE DIALOGUE WAS PROFOUND.
IT WAS ENLIGHTENING FOR ME.
THEY LISTENED.
I LISTENED.
AND IT WAS RATHER RESPECTFUL.
THERE WERE SOME THINGS WERE SAID THAT GOT MY BACK UP OR THEIR BACK UP.
COMES FROM YOUR ROOTS YOU'VE BEEN ON THE PERSON ON THE FLOOR.
DID THAT FIGURE INTO YOUR DECISION I'M GOING TO CHAT WITH THESE GUYS AND SEE WHAT'S AT WORK HERE.
EVEN IN COLLEGE I WAS ONE OF THE RELUCTANT VIETNAM PROTESTERS.
MY FIRST TIME I SAID ENOUGH.
I WENT TO SCHOOL AT BINGING TON NEW YORK.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAD THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.
AND 1969 THE GAY MOVEMENT.
AS A GAY MAN IT WAS A SAFE PLACE FOR ME TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET.
THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE GET MOBILIZED.
ONE OF THE PROTESTERS SAID SOMETHING TWO OF THEM.
ONE OF THEM WAS NOT ALL OF THEM WERE PALESTINIAN.
SOME MAY HAVE BEEN MIDDLE EASTERN ORIGIN.
MAY HAVE BEEN MUSLIM.
THERE WERE SOME OTHERS THAT WERE WHITE.
ONE OF THE WORDS THEY KEPT USING WE FEEL INVISIBLE.
NOBODY IS PAYING ATTENTION TO US.
I HARKENED BACK TO THE DAYS OF PROTEST IN THE '70s WHEN AIDS STARTED IN THE MID '80s.
WE PROTEST BECAUSE WE FEEL PROTEST.
WE PROTEST BECAUSE WE DON'T FEEL HEARD AND NOBODY IS LISTENING DID.
I KNOW WHAT ACT UP DID.
THE WOMAN'S MOVEMENT.
WE ARE HERE AND WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THE LGBTQ GOT OUT AND WE ARE HERE.
PAY ATTENTION TO US.
WHEN I HEARD THEM WE FEEL INVISIBLE ITRESONATED WITH ME.
SO I KEPT TALKING.
WELL I'M SEEING YOU NOW.
I HOPE YOU'RE SEEING ME FOR WHO I AM AND WHAT I AM.
NOT JUST A DEMOCRAT THAT'S NOT TAKING A STANCE.
>> THE NUANCE THAT GETS LOST IN ALL OF THIS.
DO YOU MIND HELPING OUR WHAT THE NUANCED.
I HEARD THIS ON THE INTERNET.
DOT DOT TO DOT.
SOME THINGS ARE GREAT ON THE INTERNET.
OTHER THINGS ARE TOTAL GARBAGE.
ONE OF THE GUYS HE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN MORE THAN 17-YEAR-OLDS.
VERY SHY.
VERY INTROVERTED AS IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE HIS VOICE OR DIDN'T TRUST HIS VIDEOGAMES.
I SAW HIM CAN I ASK A QUESTION.
LOOKING DOWN AND STUFF.
WHEN I SAID I LEANED INTO HIM SURE WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK ME.
HE SAID THAT HE READ ON THE INTERNET THAT ALL ISRAELIS WANT TO TOTALLY KILL EVERY PALESTINIAN IN GAZA.
IS THAT TRUE?
>> MY HEART JUST SANK.
AND I SAID TO HIM, I'M A TEACHER, I TEACH AT COLLEGE OF THE REDWOODS AND ONE DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE INTERNET.
GO FURTHER.
GO DEEPER.
GO TO OTHER SOURCES AND I SAID THAT TO HIM.
I SAID IT'S NOT TRUE.
ISRAELIS WANT A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE AS MUCH AS THOSE IN GAZA WANT A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE.
ISRAELIS THE MAJORITY OF SCLALS WANT PEACE, AND THE MAJORITY OF PALESTINIANS ARE NOT HAMAS.
I KNOW THAT.
THEY TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT I SEPARATED HAMAS FROM PALESTINIANS, AND I SAID THAT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO SEPARATE ALSO NETANYAHU AND THE FAR RIGHT GROUPING HE'S PUT TOGETHER IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN HIS TRUMPISH POWER >> WELL THERE'S BEEN ONGOING PROTESTS ABOUT HIS RULE.
>> ALL OF THIS STUFF.
I SAID YOU HAVE TO LOOK DEEPER MOST WHAT YOU READ ON THE INTERNET IS NOT TRUE.
IT'S BEING PLANTED THERE TO GET YOU TO FEEL SCARED.
AND I TELL MY STUDENTS THE SAME THING AND HE CAME UP WITH A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS.
EACH TIME HE FELT A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFIDENT.
I LOVE THE GUY, AND I THINK THAT THE OTHERS NOTICED HOW I WAS ATTENDING TO HIM AND RESPECTING EVEN THOUGH HE WAS YOUNG AND SHY, HE DIDN'T HAVE -- HE WAS THERE.
>> YOU WERE DRAWING HIM OUT.
YOU WANTED TO HEAR WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.
>> SO IT FELT TO ME LIKE THE MORE WE TALKED, THE MORE FRIENDLY IT GOT.
AT THE END OF IT WE ALL SHOOK HANDS WITH EACH OTHER.
THEY SHOOK MY HAND AND I SHOOK THEIR HANDS.
A FEW OF THEM THANKED TO TAKE THE TIME TO SEE THEM AND HEAR THEM.
>> SOME OF THE PEOPLE ARE TOLD OTHER NEWS MEDIA SOME OF THE JEWISH DELEGATES FELT THREATENED.
THE RIVER TO THE SEA OR THE SEA TO THE RIVER.
THAT'S APPARENTLY A REFERENCE TO THE ERADICATION OF ISRAEL.
>> KNOWING THE HISTORY OF THE JEWS AND THE HISTORY OF ISRAEL, AND WHAT ESTABLISHED ISRAEL TO WERE NEEDED NEEDING TO FIND A PLACE TO PUT ALL OF THESE JEWS ESPECIALLY COMING OUT OF THE CONCENTRATION.
WHEN NOBODY ELSE WANTED THEM.
THE U.S.
DIDN'T WANT US.
THE POWERS THAT BE THE UN CREATED ISRAELITE IN A -- IT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
BUT IT WAS IN A VERY DISRESPECTFUL WAY BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY WERE SAYING TO THE PALESTINIANS, THIS ISN'T YOUR HOMELAND ANYMORE, AND MOVE AWAY.
IF THE JEWS WERE FIGHTING AS A HOMELAND WHY SHOULD WE NOT EXPECT THEM TO DO THE SAME.
>> IT'S LIKE DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS IS OUR DEFINITION OF SNABT.
THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR 75 YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
DID I FEEL THREATENED.
I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY JEWS WOULD FEEL SCARED AND THREATENED BY THIS.
I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY WERE -- I DIDN'T SEE ANY WEAPONS.
I SAW FLAGS.
AND I HEARD CHANTING AND THEY HAD KIDS WITH HIM.
IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE VIOLENCE I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE BROUGHT THE CHILDREN WITH THEM.
THERE WAS A SIGN THAT SAID THE DEATH OF MY CHILD ISN'T RIGHT AND THEY WERE CLEARLY SAYING WHETHER IT'S ISRAELIS OR PALESTINIAN THESE KILLINGS ARE WRONG.
AND SO I ZEROED ON MY CAMERA FOR THAT SIGN.
BUT I PERSONALLY LIKE I SAID I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE FELT TERRORIZED.
FOR SOME REASON I FELT SAFE.
I FELT SAFE WITH THEM.
I FELT SAFE TALKING TO THEM.
I NEVER FELT LIKE I HAD TO WATCH MY BACK.
SOMEONE WOULD STICK IN THEIR HEAD EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
IT WAS QUITE EMPOWERING AND MOVING TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
>> YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND WE'RE UNDER A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT.
DO YOU MIND GOING ON FOR THAT FOLKS.
YES WE DON'T HEAR A LOT OF COME OUT OF BIDEN'S WE DON'T KNOW BEHIND THE SCENE.
A COUPLE OF ME WHY HASN'T THIS DEMOCRATIC PARTY STOOD UP FOR A CEASE-FIRE.
WHY HASN'T BIDEN SAID TO ISRAEL THIS ISN'T RIGHT AND THERE SHOULD BE A CEASE-FIRE.
HAVING BEEN IN POLITICS 4 A LONG TIME I'M ALMOST 74 AND YOU KNOW WHEN I STARTED COLLEGE.
I SAID WHAT CAN BE SAID PUBLICLY HAS TO DO WITH THE POLITICS AND THE RELATIONSHIP.
BUT I SAID TO THEM I GUARANTEE YOU AND IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME IF BEHIND-THE-SCENES BIDEN WAS GIVING HIM A PIECE OF HIS MIND.
DON'T BE SURPRISED IF IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE THERE'S SOME CHANGES THAT GO ON.
WHETHER IT'S THE TWO CANDIDATES FOR SENATE THAT DIDN'T CALL FOR A CEASE-FIRE COMING OUT WITH IT.
AT SOME POINT BIDEN WILL DO IT AND LO AND BEHOLD WE SEE THOSE CONVERSATIONS GOING ON.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOSTAGE EXCHANGE FOR FOUR DAYS.
AND I'M ASSUMING AND I'M HOPING THEY'RE RECALLING MY WORDS TO THEM NOW THEY'RE HEARING THEM.
IT STILL RINGS IN MY HEAD HOW IF INVISIBLE THEY'VE BEEN FOR SO LONG.
>> NO ONE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO.
RUSTY HICKS ANNOUNCED HIS CANDIDACY THIS WEEK.
AFTER THE EVENT HE WAS TALKING AROUND HIS CLIP ABOUT HOW THERE WAS ANYONE INVOLVED IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHO IT IS AND FACE CONSEQUENCES.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE.
>> THE SECURITY COMING IN THE DOORS ARE I THINK TWO OR THREE ENTRANCES.
EACH ONE AND CAME BACK IN OUR BAGS WERE SEARCHED AND THEY WERE SCANNED WITH THE METAL SCANNERS, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THERE HAD TO HAVE BEEN ANOTHER PLACE WHERE THEY CAME IN.
>> YEAH.
>> IF YOU WANT TO SAY IT HAD TO BE AN INSIDE JOB TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
BUT AGAIN, MY EXPERIENCE OF THE DEMOCRATS GOING BACK TO THE '60s IS THAT THE YOUTH LEAD THE PARTY.
AND IT'S HARD FOR -- I MEAN I UNDERSTAND AS DELEGATES WE SIGN AN ETHICS STATEMENT THAT SAYS WE WILL RESPECT EACH OTHER.
WE WILL NOT BRING -- DO ANYTHING TO DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS, AND IT'S A VERY LONG STATEMENT, AND THE YOUNG DEMOCRATS AS WELL AS THE REST OF US ALL SIGN THAT STATEMENT AND AGREE TO IT.
ON THE OTHER HAND IT'S KIND OF LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'REING GO TO PROCESS ALL OF THIS.
ALL I KNOW IF YOU'RE 18, 19, 20 OR AND 21 YOU HAVE THOUGHTS AND POSITIONS YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PASSION ABOUT EXPRESSING LIKE WE HAD IN THE '60s AND '70s.
AND AGAIN WITH THE AID EPIDEMIC IN THE '80s.
ONCE THE ADRENALIN GETS GOING IT'S HARD TO STOP IT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU BELIEVE THAT YOUR POSITION IS RIGHT.
AND AGAIN GETTING BACK TO MY CONVERSATION WITH THESE GENTLEMEN, HEARING EACH OTHER WHICH IS I BELIEVE HAPPENED, CALMED THINGS DOWN A LOT FOR ME AS WELL AS FOR THEM.
>> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THE IMPOSSIBLE QUESTION.
HOW DO WE GET OUT OF THIS SITUATION WE'RE IN IN PALESTINE AND WITH ISRAEL AND THAT CONFLICT.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO QUICK ANSWERS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON IT.
>> WELL, ONE THING HAD TO DO WITH THE END RESULT OF MY CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF THE GUYS KEPT TALKING TO ME AS THE OTHERS WALKED AWAY.
AND HE SAID DO I BECOME A DELEGATE.
I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT CENTRAL COMMITTEES.
YOU GET TOUCH WITH THE DEMOCRATIC CENTRAL COMMITTEE AND YOU GET INVOLVED WITH THEM.
AND YOU COULD BE YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT.
HE WAS INTERESTED.
IT WAS THAT I LOVE.
I EVEN GAVE HIM MY CELL PHONE NUMBER.
PLEASE DON'T GIVE IT TO ANYONE ELSE.
BUT THERE'S NO QUICK ANSWER OTHER THAN MORE DIALOGUES LIKE THIS.
IT'S AI IS GOING TO BE CAUSING A LOT MORE PROBLEMS.
LIKE I SAID THE FAR RIGHT IN ISRAEL AND THE FAR RIGHT IN GAZA AND THE WEST BANK DON'T WANT PEACE.
THEY STAY IN POWER.
>> THEY STAY IN POWER WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN POWER.
IT'S THE SAME THING THAT TRUMP IS DOING.
HE TAKES OVER AGAIN.
>> WHICH GOES BACK TO YOUR GET INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.
MAYBE START LISTENING A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND EX-DISTRICT OURSELVES FROM THESE CONFLICTS.
EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
>> EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
>> THAT'S IT WE'RE OUT OF TIME.
>> THANK YOU FOR STAY TUNED.
STAY INFORMED.
I'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

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