guidance on vaccines for children could soon be upended and advisory committee overseen by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F Kennedy Junior's Vaccine Advisory Board will meet tomorrow to discuss the medical guidance of hepatitis B vaccine, which is currently given at birth the fall.

This follows the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention changing its stance on the unproven link between vaccines and autism.

The updated language on its website reads, quote, the statement, quote, Vaccines Do not cause autism is not an evidence-based claim.

Scientific studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines contribute to the to the development of autism.

However, this statement has historically been disseminated by the CDC and other federal health agencies within HHS to prevent vaccine hesitancy.

Joining us to dive more into died.

More in depth on this.

Our Dr Michelle Barnes, president of the Illinois chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics and professor of clinical Pediatrics at UIC and you Eye Health.

Dr Max Brito, professor of infectious diseases at UIC and vice president of the Infectious Diseases, Society of America and Dr.

Robert Murphy, executive director of the Harvey Institute for Global Health and John Fair, professor of infectious diseases at Northwestern University.

Welcome back.

All you.

Thanks for joining us.

I think it's also important to note that on that same front page of the vaccine website for CDC, there is the sentence that reads vaccines do not cause autism asterisk.

And then you go further down.

They don't cause autism and you go further down and explained that they did not remove that sentence due to the agreement that the chair of the Senate Health Education, Labor and Pensions Committee made to keep that on the website.

Dr Brito was this new claim from CDC.

The vaccines can cause autism was alarming for you.

>> It is alarming.

Vaccines do not cause autism.

So the initial statement is right.

I mean, all of these links between autism and vaccines comes tolling study.

That was where the falsified data personal.

The author of the study falsified the data.

And since then there have been 16 it be the logical large-scale studies that have proving or have failed to prove that there is a link between autism vaccines very well designed studies more than almost 2 million kids have been data to a case have been examining and there's no link at there's no proof that vaccines cause Dr Murphy, given all of that, right?

There is no proof.

Is it hard to prove a negative?

And is that what this administration is relying Well, it's hard to say.

100%.

Absolutely sure that the no vaccine ever caused autism or cause autism.

>> You know that you can you can say that.

But we're talking like chances like one of the million or one in 10 million chance.

It almost is almost 0.

>> One of those studies that compare mention was 550,000 children.

About 80% have the vaccines and 20% did it and they looked at them and there was absolutely no difference between the development of autism.

It's the biggest study to date.

The epidemiologic study from Denmark.

So, you study after study after study and that's why Senator Cassidy made them keep that in there or he wasn't going to prove Secretary Kennedy to be Secretary Health and Human Services.

>> Good.

He did and they have to get because of with an asterisk which basically then the rest of the page kind what's the word?

I'm looking for it.

It it the Dr Burns.

What are you hearing from parents and caregivers?

Is there a growing vaccine?

Hesitancy?

There is going back seeing hesitancy and we've seen that over the last several years.

increasingly in the last year.

>> But, you know, we see it as an opportunity for us as pediatricians to be the trusted healthcare provider that we are for children.

Vaccines save lives.

They help children to stay in school and to be healthy.

And that's what we want for our patients.

Just as we know that some parents want for their kids.

And so what what we try to do when parents expressed hesitation about vaccines is really just to try to talk with them about what other concerns try to address their concerns and then really work with them to make sure that they make healthy and safe choices for their kids to remain Dr Brito.

So if be vaccine, if it ends up getting pushed back on the schedule, which it's currently within.

24 hours of delivery.

>> What could be the immediate and then the long-term impacts of that.

>> The long-term impact as many more cases of chronic Hepatitis B in kids in infants, which is a fully preventable disease.

And what that does to kids is increase the risk of developing cirrhosis, which is scarring of the liver or liver cancer later in life.

Why would you want that for your kid if you can prevent a with a shot?

What a birth.

There is absolutely no evidence of that causes any harm and they prevent a lot of morbidity in.

They were talking earlier.

would prevent continuing.

The program would prevent more than 100,000 cases this disease.

>> Dr Barnes.

If the recommendation does change and a happy if if they suggest delaying it, giving that vaccine later on, what could the impact be on insurance coverage?

Well, the impact on insurance coverage we don't know.

So across the federal government, I think that remains to be seen based on the relationship between a cip in the federal insurance company, assert federal insurance organizations such as Medicaid.

>> However, in Illinois, Governor Pritzker has really tried to ensure that we that our patients children, our families, will be able to.

Can you continue to get the vaccine regardless of what the changes are to the federal guidelines with the understanding that the New Illinois Advisory Committee on immunizations can make recommendations for Illinois INS and will ensure that they have access to the vaccine regardless of the type of insurance that they Okay.

we're gonna come back to that in a bit as well.

Dr Murphy.

>> So the Trump administration, they are studying the safety of aluminum in vaccines.

Why is there aluminum in some vaccines?

So aluminum is the most common metal on Earth is actually is 9% of all the metal and the entire earth.

The whole planet Earth.

It's everywhere.

It's in the water.

>> It's in all your food.

It's vegetables and fruits everything that's in the environment.

basically a ubiquitous subs substance.

They put it into the vaccine because it acts as an edge of it.

It actually makes the vaccine worked 10 100 or 1000 times better than without it.

So you can give less of the vaccine.

If you have just a little bit of aluminum, we're talking about one milligram, 2, one, 1000th of of of a gram or even less than that in in the vaccine, there is more aluminum baby formula in 2 doses of baby formula.

That in a vaccine.

So if you're worried about aluminum causing autism, you basically can't give it.

You can almost take it any of the foods out there, including formula that, you know, over 60% of kids take.

So where are we going to stop?

The reason why there?

They're saying aluminum cause it because aluminum is everywhere.

Works most aluminum all the time.

doesn't do it that that amount.

It does nothing.

It's kind of like with Tylenol everywhere, right?

Every state.

That's that's exactly.

>> Why is aluminum a concern?

I we're taking aluminum out of deodorants, for example.

Why is why is it bad to have a looming?

still a lot of deodorant, scene-stealing toothpaste and it's still in your food.

It's still in the food chain.

Is it?

You can't take aluminum basically out of the environment.

There's so much of it.

Governor JB Pritzker.

He signed a bill yesterday to safeguard against federal anti vaccine guidelines.

Here's what he had to say.

>> While RFK Junior and his QAnon uninspired colleagues spreading conspiracy theories and dangerous misinformation about vaccines are running around Washington.

Illinois is stepping up to protect the health of our people.

And while some other states are denying proven science to serve the MAGA Republican political agenda, Illinois is listening to the experts and making life-saving care more accessible.

>> Doctor burns, how can states respond to this?

In his Illinois doing the right things?

In my opinion?

Yes, Illinois is definitely doing the right thing.

I think we're so fortunate to have and have a governor that's really looking out for interests and needs of the and the health really of the children and families in Illinois by allowing us to make the decisions allow us to have the best health care possible for our our families, is it enough to prevent potential outbreaks?

Vaccines save lives and vaccines prevent illness vaccines prevent people from missing school missing work prevent allow them to do all the things that they should be doing.

Kids in particular.

And so by allowing by encouraging and enforcing that we will be have access to all of the recommended vaccines here in Illinois.

Governor Pritzker doing all he can to make sure that we have available to us.

Dr Brito few seconds left.

If the CDC's guidance may not be the most reliable anymore.

Where can folks turn to get the best information?

>> Well, they can turn to medical societies, for example, some of the medical societies that coming up with their own guidelines on their own recommendations.

There's big vaccine, integrity project that it's a parallel to government effort that is trying to put out sound scientific evidence to get parents to make the right decisions and parents should definitely vaccinate their kids, OK?

We'll have to leave