>> Ted: COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, A NEW REPORT RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A MULTI-DAY POUT OUT POUTER OUTAGE HAPPENED AND WHAT ABOUT CHAT-GPT.

AND LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS MENTORED.

THAT'S NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

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>> WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

WILDFIRE SEASON IS HERE AND AMONG THE FIRES AROUND THE STATE IS THE DIAMOND FIRE IN NORTH SCOTTSDALE, 11 MILES SOUTHWEST OF RIO VERDE.

IT HAS BURNED AT LEAST 2500 ACRES AND ZERO PERCENT CONTAINED AND 1100 PEOPLE IN MORE THAN 1100 HOMES EVACUATED AND THE RED ACROSS OPENED AT CACTUS SHADOWS AND NEARBY REGIONAL PARK IS CLOSED.

>>> BACK EAST, SMOKE FROM WILDFIRES IN CANADA ARE BLANKETING A NUMBER OF U.S. CITIES AND THIS IS HOW IT LOOKED IN PITTSBURGH AND WORSE IN CHICAGO AND DETROIT AND AIR QUALITY LISTED AS, QUOTE, VERY UNHEALTHY AND RESIDENTS WERE ADVISED TO STAY INDOORS WITH THE REASONS CLOSED.

>>> A CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE SUGGESTED THE BUDGET DEFICIT WILL INCREASE IN THE COMING YEARS AND THE OUTLOOK SHOWS THE SPENDING GROWTH GOING TO SPECIAL SECURITY AS THE AGE OF THE POPULATION INCREASES.

SPENDING IS FORECAST TO INCREASE MORE QUICKLY THAN REVENUES WITH REVENUES EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO DROP UNTIL 2026 WHEN TAX CUTS ENACTED BY FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP EXPIRE.

>>> AMOUNTS OF LEAD, ARSONIC IN BABY FOODS IS LOWER ACCORDING TO CONSUMER REPORTS THAT WHILE HEAVY METALS ARE ON THE DECLINE, IT HASN'T DECLINED WHILE SOME ARE OFFSET IN OTHERS.

IT CERTAINS METALS IN KNACK SNACKS AND FOODS WITH SWEET POTATOES.

>> A RECENT REPORT RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A MULTI-DAY POWER OUTAGE HIT PHOENIX DURING A HEATWAVE SAYING IT WOULD RESULT IN HOSPITALS OVERWHELMED WITH PATIENTS FROM HEAT STROKE AND OTHER HEAT-RELATED ILLNESSES.

FOR MORE, WE WELCOME MATEI GEORGESCU FROM GEOGRAPHICAL SCIENCE AND ALSO FRANK LOVECCHIO, THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR AT ASU'S COLLEGE OF HEALTH SOLUTIONS.

GOOD TO YOU HAVE BOTH HERE AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THIS RESEARCH.

TWO, THREE DAYS OF 115-DEGREE HEAT AND NO POWER?

>> UP TO FIVE DAYS FOR SOME NEIGHBORHOODS NOT HAVING ANY POWER AND SOME POWER IS RESTORED IN THE FIRST 48 OR SO HOURS.

AND AFTER THAT RAMPING UP TO FIVE DAYS WHERE 100% OF THE METROPOLITAN AREA HAS POWER.

>> Ted: MY GOODNESS AND HALF THE POPULATION WOULD NEED ER CARE?

>> AND THAT'S CONCERNING AND TALKING ABOUT MOSTLY EDERLY AND THOSE WITH COOL MORBIDITIES AND PHOENIX DOESN'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OF BEDS, HOSPITAL BEDS AND SOMETHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

>> Ted: NEARLY THREE THOUSAND PEOPLE IN PHOENIX ALONE WOULD DIE IF THIS WOULD OCCUR?

>> I THINK THE NUMBER IS HIGHER.

ONE ASPECT THAT WE DIDN'T INCLUDE HERE ARE THE SOCIAL MECHANISMS THAT WE HOPE.

OUR WORK RAISES AWARENESS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO STRATEGIZE.

IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED, WE SEE THIS IN MONSOON AND WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS HERE AND THERE SPOTTED ACROSS THE METROPOLITAN AREA WITHOUT POWER.

WHAT'S UNIQUE HERE IS THAT WE'RE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THIS HAPPENS ACROSS THE METROPOLITAN AREA.

LOW LIKELIHOOD VANITASES LIKELIHOOD EVENTS AND WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES SHOULD SOMETHING HIKE THIS HAPPEN.

LIKE THIS HAPPEN.

>> Ted: THIS IDEA, I MEAN THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DEAD, HOSPITALS OVERWHELMED AND DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO YOU?

>> YES, AND IT IS FRIGHTENING AND WE PASSED THIS AROUND AND ERS WOULD BE OVERWHELMED AND I THINK WE'VE PREDICTED 13,000 VISITS A DAY OR SO AND THREE THOUSAND BEDS IN GREATER MARICOPA COUNTY.

WE WOULD BE OVERWHELMED AND WE HAVE TO ADAPT LIKE WE DID WITH COVID AND WE HAVE WOULD HAVE TO GO WITH OUTDOOR VENTS.

WE HAVE GENERATORS TO GO WITH GENERATORS.

DOWNTOWN, WE'LL SEE A LOT OF PROBLEMS.

A LOT OF HOMELESS.

>> Ted: AND WE THINK ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY, THE HOMELESS, THOSE WITHOUT SHELTER WOULD BE FIRST IMPACTED AND A LOT OF PEOPLE AND THE VULNERABLE AND THIS IS A WORSE-CASE SCENARIO, THOUGH, CORRECT?

>> YES, BUT EVEN TODAY, I WAS IN THE ER EARLIER TODAY AND THREE PEOPLE BEFORE 12:00.

ONE OF THE WAYS TO MITIGATE IT IS TO THROW PEOPLE IN SHADE AND GIVE THEM A LOT OF WATER AND COOL THEM DOWN IF YOU CAN AND PEOPLE GO IN YOUR POOL AND THINGS AREN'T RUNNING AT THAT TIME.

>> Ted: A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T HAVE POOLS AND OTHER MITIGATION EFFORTS AND I WOULD IMAGINE JUST PLANTING MORE SHADE TRADING WOULD HELP A LITTLE BIT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

SO THE TEMPERATURES THEMSELVES AREN'T THE END ALL, BE ALL, BUT IT COULD LEAD TO HOSPITALIZATION AND EVEN WORSE CAUSES AND IF YOU CAN PROVIDE SHADE EITHER MANUFACTURED OR THROUGH SHADE TREES, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN THAT'S ONE VERY IMPORTANT SOLUTION.

ENHANCING INSULATION IN HOMES IS AN IMPORTANT SOLUTION AND MAKING SURE EVERYBODY HAS PORTABLE WATER BECAUSE THE ELECTRICITY IS NOT WORKING.

YOU NEED AS MUCH WATER FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS JUST IN CASE.

>> Ted: ARE CITIES, DOCTOR, PREPARED FOR THIS STUFF?

>> NOT TO THIS MAGNITUDE, BUT SLIGHTLY, WE ARE PREPARED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WE DO RUN DRILLS WITH THIS SORT OF STUFF.

IF THERE'S A DISASTER, GOD FORBID A PLANE THAT GOES DOWN BUT NOT AS BIG AS THIS.

POST 9-1-1, WE RAN DRILLS AND WE DO HAVE THIS STUFF.

>> Ted: AND COOL GROUPS, I'VE HEARD OF THIS IDEA AND WHAT IS THAT AND HOW MUCH WOULD THAT MITIGATE THIS?

>> SO LET ME JUST TAKE A STEP BACK FOR A SECOND AND JUST MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT REFLECTIVE MATERIALS IN GENERAL.

WE'RE AFTER, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT COOL ROOFS, PER SAY, BUT TRYING TO ASK THE QUESTION AND IN WHAT WAYS TO REDUCE THE BURDEN OF HEAT ON THE POPULATION?

REFLECTIVE MATERIALS, AND THEY REFLECT A LOT MORE OF THE INCOMING SOLAR RADIATION OUT TO SPACE AND IF THEY REFLECT THE SOLAR RADIATION, THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO HEAT THE SURFACE AND NEARBY ENVIRONMENT.

AND COOL ROOFS, WE LOOKED AT, IT DEFINITELY DOES IMPROVE THERMAL CONDITIONS, SHADE TREES AND AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU'RE PROVIDING SHADE FROM INCOMING SOLAR RADIATION AND THERE ARE OTHER BIOPHYSICAL MANUFACTURED CHARACTERISTICS, WAYS TO ALTER THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT.

AND THEN THE MECHANISMS WE'VE TOUCHED ON THEM.

>> Ted: VICTIMTOUCH ON THEM MORE.

>> THERE'S PRECEDENT ON THIS.

SMALL SCALE OVER PHOENIX, ABOUT THE EVENT IN 2003 WHERE NEW YORK CITY WAS WITHOUT POWER WITHOUT ONE DAY AND ALL THE WAY INTO SOUTHERN CANADA.

SO IN SUCH AN EVENT, IF I'M GOING TO CALL, LET'S SAY, MY MOTHER OR MY FATHER OR WIFE IF SHE'S AT WORK, IT'S LIKELY THAT THE TOWER OR CELL SERVICE WON'T BE DOWN.

HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE WHERE THE LOCAL COOLING CENTER IS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THERE'S A GENERATOR THERE AND HOW DO WE LOCATE THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE MY NEIGHBOR, WHO IS EDERLY OR A CO-MOTHER CO-MORBIDITY HAS ACCESS?

>> Ted: SHOULD HEAT, EXTREME HEAT WITH THE CORRESPONDING FAILURE, IF YOU WILL, BUT SHOULD ALL OF THIS BE INCLUDED, LIKE TORNADOES, HURRICANES, AS FEDERAL DISASTERS?

>> IN ANNIE AN IDEAL WORLD, YES, AND ALL OF THE THINGS WE NEED.

I WANT TO ADD ON THE EDERLY.

WHEN WE GET HEATWAVES, A LOT OF EDERLY DO DIE AND A LOT ARE ON DIURETICS AND THEY LET YOU GET RID OF A LOT OF WATER.

SIMPLE THINGS LIKE BENADRYL FOR YOUR ALLERGIES AND THOSE MAKE YOU PRONE TO HEAT-RELATED ILLNESSESILLNESSES.

>> Ted: INTERESTING RESEARCH AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING AND GOOD TO YOU HAVE BOTH.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: LIABILITY ISSUES INVOLVING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE PROGRAM, CHAT-GPT.

>> Ted: CHAT-GPT IS BEING USED IN BUSINESS AND EDUCATION, BUT WHAT ARE COPYRIGHT GUIDELINES USING THIS OR OTHER A.I.

PROGRAMS, ESPECIALLY WHEN PROGRAMS GET JOINING US IS IRA SCHWARTZ FROM PARKER SCHWARTZ AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

WHAT IS CHAT-GPT?

>> CHAT-GPT IS ONE OF SEVERAL LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS THAT ARE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE OPERATED BY -- YOU CAN PLUG A PROMPT IN OR A QUESTION AND IT GIVES YOU AN ANSWER IN A FORMAT THAT IS LIKE YOU AND I ARE TALKING.

IN SOME WAYS, YOU CAN'T TELL IF YOU'RE TALKING TO A COMPUTER OR HUMAN.

>> Ted: YOU CAN TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND USE IT TO YOUR BENEFIT, I WOULD IMAGINE.

>> YES.

>> Ted: HOW OFTEN IS IT BEING USED?

>> INCREASING EXPONENTIALLY EVERY DAY AND HARD TO TELL HOW MANY ARE USING IT AND A LOT OF REPORTS AND EVERYTHING IS USING IT MORE AND MORE.

>> Ted: LEGAL CONTRACTS BEING USED THERE, AS WELL.

>> BEING USED BY -- CHAT-GPT IS USED A LITTLE BIT BY LAW FIRMS AND SOME ARE DEVELOPING THEIR OWN IN-HOUSE VERSION OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SYSTEMS AND THEY'RE USING IT FOR PLEADINGS WHICH HAS GOTTEN SOME LAWYERS IN TROUBLE RECENTLY.

>> Ted: HOW LONG DOES CHAT-GPT, A.I.

IN GENERAL GET THINGS LONG?

>> WIDELY REPORTED WHERE IT HAS.

AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, RECENTLY, LAWYERS WHO HELPED TO WRITE A BRIEF AND CHAT-GPT TELLS YOU ON THE FIRST PAGE THAT OCCASIONALLY IT WILL GET THINGS WRONG AND SHOULD NOT BE RELIED ON ALL BY ITSELF TO BE 100% ACCURATE.

RECENTLY SOME LAWYERS USED IT TO DRAFT A BRIEF AND AFTER THAT, CHAT-GPT CITED CASES AND JUST MADE THEM UP.

THERE'S A TERM AND THEY CALL IT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE DOES THIS, CALL IT HALLUCINATING AND JUST MADE IT UP AND CAME UP WITH CASE CITATIONS AND THOSE CASES DON'T EXIST.

>> Ted: HALLUCINATING IS A NICE WAY TO PUT IT, BUT IF YOU'RE THE PERSON INVOLVED, IT MORE THAN THAT.

A PROFESSOR WAS ACCUSED WHEN CHAT-GPT GOT IT WRONG.

>> A LAW PROFESSOR WHERE SOMEBODY WROTE AN ARTICLE BY CHAT-GPT ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ASSAULT WHEN HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

IN FACT, HE WAS ONE OF THE WHISTLEBLOWERS TO BRING IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE UNIVERSITY AND SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, THE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM SAID HE WAS ONE OF THE PERPETRATORS WHEN HE WAS NOT.

>> Ted: WHAT LIABILITY ISSUES ARE INVOLVED?

>> YOU'LL BE SUBJECT LIBEL IF YOU PRODUCED INACCURATE INFORMATION.

>> Ted: WOULD MAKE SENSE.

YOU'RE USING THIS PRODUCT AND THE YOU'RE THE BOTTOM LINE.

>> YOU'RE THE BOTTOM LINE AND YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

>> Ted: WHAT ABOUT COPYRIGHT ISSUES?

>> THOSE ARE STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT AND CURRENTLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CREATING CONTENT AND YOU CAN CREATE BROCHURES AND OTHER ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SYSTEMS THAT CREATE ARTWORK.

THE CURRENT POSITION IS THAT A HUMAN BEING IS SUBJECT TO COPYRIGHT PROTECTION AND IF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CREATES IT, THERE'S NO COPYRIGHT PROTECTION.

THERE'S TWO-FOLD IMPLICATIONS AND ONE IS THERE NOT PROTECTION IF YOU WANT TO CLAIM IT AS YOUR OWN.

THE SECOND THING IS THAT IF IT IS DEVELOPED, SOMEBODY ELSE USES IT, AI GENERATES IT AND USES IT, NOTHING YOU CAN DO BECAUSE IT POSSIBLYPUBLIC DOE MAN.

DOMAIN.

>> Ted: THAT HIT SONG DOESN'T BELONG TO ME.

>> THERE'S NO COPYRIGHT PROTECTION AND FREE REIGN.

>> Ted: WILL IT STAY LIKE THAT OR CHANGE?

>> BUYING REVIEWED BUT MY GUESS, IT STAYS THAT WAY.

MY GUESS, THE COPYRIGHT BASICS THAT IT'S HUMAN PRODUCED TO BE SUBJECT TO PROTECTION IS LIKELY TO STAY.

>> Ted: AS FAR AS OTHER ISSUES POPPING UP, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING OUT THERE?

>> TAKING IT A STEP FURTHER IN TERMS OF SONGS, CHAT-GPT WRITES SECTIONS OF COMPUTER CODE AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THERE, DOES THAT MEAN ANYBODY CAN USE THAT CODE?

THAT'S BIG IN THE SOFTWARE INDUSTRY AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT USED FOR SOURCE MATERIAL AND, AGAIN, YOU MIGHT BE COMMITTING COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT EVEN THOUGH THE AI SYSTEM CAME UP WITH THE COMPONENTS AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ITS SOURCES WERE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE GENERAL PROBLEMS WITH A.I.

SYSTEMS, THEY'RE NOT TRANSPARENT AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IT CAME UP WITH WHAT IT COMES UP WITH.

>> Ted: I'M ALREADY SAYING LIKE A HALL OF MIRRORS.

YOU HAVE A.I.

FROM AN A.I.

AND WHO THE HECK KNOWS WHERE IT STARTED.

>> THAT'S A BIG ISSUE.

AND IF IT STARTED FROM SOMETHING THAT'S COPYRIGHT PROTECTED AND YOU PUBLISH IT, YOU'LL BE ON THE HOOK.

>> Ted: ELON MUSK AND STEVE WOZNIAK, THEY WANT A PAUSE.

DO YOU THINK IT MAKES SENSE?

>> I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAPPEN.

THE RATE AT WHICH THIS IS GROWING, BE BUSINESSES ARE FINDING THEY CAN'T DO WITHOUT IT BECAUSE THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGES OF IT, IT COSTS NOTHING AND EXTREMELY FAST.

I CAN GENERATE -- IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO GENERATE CONTENT FOR WHATEVER YOU NEED, YOU CAN GENERATE IT ALMOST INSTANTLY AT VERY LOW COST AND PREDICTIONS ARE SCARRY IN TERMS OF HOW IT REPLACES JOBS AND PROBABLY NEW JOBS IN TERMS OF SKILLED AND USE USING IT.

>> Ted: THEY WERE, QUOTE, AS PROFOUND RISKS TO SOCIETY AND HUMANITY.

GO AHEAD.

>> THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THAT IS FURTHER OFF AND THE TALKING ABOUT HOW A.I.

IS FULLY INCIDENT INTEGRATED WITH OTHER SYSTEMS AND COULD IT GO DOWN AND THE MORE PRESSING ISSUE IS THAT THESE OTHER LIABILITIES, IF YOU LET A.I.

OR THESE TYPE A.I.

SYSTEMS IN TO MAKE DECISIONS, MEDICAL DECISIONS AND SOMETHING GOES WRONGS, PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE AFFECTED.

IF IT MAKES FINANCIAL DECISIONS LIKE CREDIT SCORES AND SOME OF THESE THINGS COME OUT IN BIASED WAYS USED TO FURTHER BE DISCRIMINATORY TOWARDS RACE AND RACIAL GROUPS OR OTHERS IF THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS TRAINED.

IT'S VERY HARD TO TELL HOW IT COMES UP WITH THE DECISIONS.

IF YOU USE IT, THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER LEGAL LIABILITIES.

IF YOU USE IT THAT IS DISCRIMINATORY, YOU MAY NOT NESCIENTS YOU CAN'TBEABLE TO TELL.

>> Ted: IRA SCHWARTZ, THANK YOU FOR HELPING US CLEAR IT UP FOR US.

>> GLAD TO BE HERE, THANK YOU.

>> Ted: VISION'S 23 IS AN EXHIBITION AT SCOTTSDALE MUSEUM THAT FEATURES THE WORK OF VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS BY PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS AND THE YOUNGER ARTISTS TOURED UNIVERSITIES TO BETTER LEARN ABOUT CONTINUING WITH ART AS A CAREER AND FOR MORE ON VISION'S 23 WE WELCOME BRITNEY ARNOLDS THE ART ARTS LEARNING AND CARLOS CONTREROS.

BRITNEY, THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE AWHILE, HUH?

>> YES, FOR 24 YEARS AND SO, 23 IS THE YEAR THAT THE EXHIBITION IS BEING HELD, BUT IT'S CELEBRATING THE 25th 25th ANNIVERSARY NEXT YEAR.

>> Ted: AND ART STUDENTS, WHAT, LEARNING FROM PROFESSIONAL STUDENTS, HOW?

>> SO VISIONS TEAM ART IS THROUGH CONTEMPORARY ART WE PUT THEM WITH PROFESSIONAL WORKING ARTISTS WHO TEACH ABOUT THEIR SKILLS AND ABOUT THEIR CAREERS AS AN ART IT TO SEE WHAT A TRAJECTORY LOOKS LIKE AND GET SOME INSIGHT.

>> Ted: ONCE YOU CREATED IN CASE TO GO WITH THE ART.

>> HOW TO MAKE IT A POTENTIAL CAREER AND HOW TO BE A PROFESSIONAL ARTIST.

>> Ted: CARLOS, HOW DID YOU GET INVOLVED?

>> I WAS ASKED ABOUT IT BY ONE OF MY ART TEACHERS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND PRETTY MUCH SAW ONE OF MY PAINTINGS AND I SAID YES.

>> Ted: WAS THERE A SINGULAR ARTIST.

WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM THESE FOLKS?

>> FIRST THING I LEARNED IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY WAYS THAT ART CAN BE UNIQUE.

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN I WOULD THINK IT WAS ALL ABOUT PAINTING ON A CANVAS AND THIS PROGRAM TAUGHT ME THAT THERE ARE SO MAIN WAYS THAT IT'S SO EXTENSIVE HOW ART CAN BE.

>> Ted: A BIG WORLD OUT THERE AND I THINK WE HAVE A SHOT OF YOUR PIECE, "THE TORMENTED MAN."

THIS IS ART THAT SAYS, LOOK AT ME.

WHAT INSPIRED YOU?

>> I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING WITH, PERHAPS, CLEANING YOURSELF FROM SINS OR, LIKE, ESCAPING FROM BAD MEMORIES.

AND I WANTED TO ALSO USE THE TECHNIQUE OF, LIKE FEELING LIKE IT'S TRYING TO ESCAPE.

AND I WANTED TO PRESENT THIS BY BOTH A PAINTING AND ALSO PHYSICAL I WAS INSPIRED BY ANOTHER STUDENT THAT USED SHAPES AND HANDS THAT CAME OUT OF THE CANVAS.

>> Ted: COULD YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT VISION'S 23 OR DID THIS HELP YOU WITH THE PROCESS?

>> I HAVE TO BE HONEST, I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE.

I NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE IDEA OF, A, I COULD HAVE PUT HANDS OUT OF THIS PROCESS TO ESCAPE AND I HAD A NARROW WAY OF SEEING HOW ART WAS AND SOMETHING IN A CANVAS.

>> Ted: THAT'S THE TESTIMONIAL AND THIS IS HIS ART EXPANDED AND WE HAD THIS INCREDIBLE PIECE.

>> WE HAVE THEM WRITE GOALS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR AND REFLECT ON THEM AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND CARLOS' GOAL WAS, I WANT TO MAKE A PAINTING THAT BREAKS OUT CANVAS AND I SAID, YOU DID IT, CARLOS.

[ Laughter ] >> Ted: WHAT OTHER RESPONSES RESPONSES ARE YOU GETTING AND WHAT ARE YOU HEAR?

>> WE DO THESE WORKSHOPS FOR A WHOLE SCHOOL YEAR AND THE MOMENT IT'S IN THE GALLERY OR IN THE MUSEUM, WHERE THEY STEP IN AND THEY SAY, WOW!

I THINK I COULD ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING WITH THIS AND IT'S KIND OF THIS A H-HA MOMENT.

>> Ted: THE ART AS A CAREER IS THERE AND INSPIRATION IS THERE AND INSPIRATION TO CONTINUE OR INSPIRATION TO SAY, I'VE DONE WHAT I WANT TO DO AND DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH MY LIFE.

>> AND WE DON'T EXPECT EVERYTHING OUT OF THE PROGRAM TO BE A PROFESSIONAL ARTIST.

THERE'S STILL A LOT OF STILLS THAT ARE TRANSFERABLE TO WHATEVER JOB FIELD THEY GO INTO.

A LOT OF 21st CENTURY SKILLS LIKE PUBLIC SPEAKING AND CRITIQUE AND DEALING WITH FAILURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> Ted: SOCIAL SKILLS AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS, I WOULD THINK.

DID YOU LEARN ALL SORTS OF THINGS?

>> QUITE A FEW.

>> Ted: AND ARE YOU PLANNING ON ART AS A CAREER?

>> SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.

I'M PLANNING ON GOING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA TO STUDY ARCHITECTURE AND JUST LIKE MY FATHER WAS AN ARCHITECT AND I AM ALSO INTERESTED IN ARCHITECTURE, AS WELL.

>> Ted: THAT'S ANOTHER TESTIMONY, AS WELL.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Ted: UNTIL AUGUST 6th.

>> IT'S OPEN TO THE PUB PUBLIC AND FREE ON THURSDAYS AND CHECK IT OUT AND A LOT OF STUDENT ARTWORK TO BE SEEN.

>> Ted: CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS AND VISIONS 23 AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS, TED.

>> Ted: THAT'S IT FOR NOW AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AND THE YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!