>> Announcer: THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS A PBS WISCONSIN ORIGINAL PRODUCTION.

>>> ABORTION ADVOCATES BRACE THEMSELVES FOR A WORLD WITHOUT ROE.

COVID VACCINES FROM THE YOUNGEST KIDS GET EMERGENCY APPROVAL.

AND POLITICS HEAT UP NATIONALLY AND STATE SIDE.

I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.

TONIGHT ON "HERE AND NOW," REACTION TO THE HISTORIC RULING THAT OVERTURNS ROE V. WADE.

WHAT PARENTS SHOULD KNOW ABOUT COVID VACCINES FOR CHILDREN UNDER 6.

OUR POLITICAL PANEL FORESHADOWS THE MIDTERMS.

IT'S "HERE AND NOW" FOR JUNE 24.

>>> THE U.S. SUPREME COURT TODAY OVERTURNED THE 50-YEAR PRECEDENT CASE ROE V. WADE IN WHAT'S BEING CALLED A RULING FOR THE AGES.

AND WITH IT, THE GENERATION LONG FIGHT ON ON ANTY ABORTION ACTIVISTS TO END LEGAL ABORTIONS.

LAWS AROUND ACCESS NOW TURN TO THE STATES WE RETURN TO GRACIEES -- GRACIEES, FOR HER REACTION.

AND THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THE RULING?

>> WE ARE ABSOLUTELY OVERJOYED.

THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THE PROTECTION OF PREBORN LIFE AND THE OVERTURNING OF ROE FOR DECADES.

SO IT'S HARD TO EVEN BELIEVE THAT THE STATE HAS COME -- THIS DAY HAS COME.

>> IN WISCONSIN WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LAW ON THE BOOKS REDATING ROE THAT CRIMMIZES ABORTION.

COULD YOU EXPECT TO WORK TO TIGHTEN THAT EVEN MORE?

>> OUR FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS CALLING ON OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL AND DISTRICT ATTORNEYS TO ENSURE THAT THAT LAW IS EFFECTIVE AT SAVING LIVES.

BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY WILLING AND PREPARING FOR FURTHER ACTION WE CAN TAKE LEGISLATIVELY IF MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE TO PROTECT PREBORN LIVES.

BUT I THINK OUR MAIN FOCUS IS REALLY ON SUPPORTING WOMEN WHO ARE FACING THESE CHALLENGING OR UNEXPECTED PREGNANCIES.

WE REALIZE THAT THEY WILL BE IN NEED OF SUPPORT, POTENTIALLY MEDICAL CARE, HOUSING, ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS, AND WE WANT TO INCREASE THE EFFORTS OF THE PREGNANCY RESOURCE CENTERS AND MATERNITY HOMES SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO FILL IN THE GAP FOR THOSE WOMEN.

>> WHAT ABOUT RECENT WISCONSIN POLLING THAT SAYS 31% FAVOR OVERTURNING ROE WHILE A FULL 69% OPPOSED STRIKING IT DOWN?

DOES PUBLIC OPINION MATTER ON THIS ISSUE TO YOU?

>> I THINK THAT THE EXTRAORDINARY THING ABOUT ROE BEING OVERTURN SAID THE DECISION REGARDING ABORTION ACCESS NOW RETURNS TO THE STATES.

SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN WISCONSIN AND IT WILL CERTAINLY BE AN IMPORTANT ISSUE GOING INTO THE ELECTIONS.

AND OUR WORK AT WISCONSIN RIGHT TO LIFE IS TO CHANGE HEARTS AND MINDS.

SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO EDUCATE ON THE REALITY OF ABORTION, AND HOPEFULLY BY PROVIDING WOMEN WITH LOVING, SUPPORTIVE OPTIONS, THEY WILL WANT TO CHOOSE LIFE.

>> NOW, A MOMENT AGO YOU SPOKE TO THE IDEA THAT YOUR FIRST PRIORITY IS TO WORK WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, JOSH CALL, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS LAW ON THE BOOKS IN WISCONSIN IS ENFORCED.

HE HAS SAID HE WOULD NOT ENFORCE IT.

WHAT ABOUT THAT?

>> WE BELIEVE AND KNOW FUNDAMENTALLY THAT HIS ROLE IS TO ENFORCE OUR LAWS.

SO OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT SHOCKED THAT HE IS SAYING THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THIS WILL BE A LONGER CONVERSATION AND BATTLE THAT WE ARE WILLING TO FIGHT HERE IN WISCONSIN IF HE IS NOT WILLING TO ENFORCE THE LAW.

AND AGAIN, IT COMES BACK TO THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR ELECTIONS IN THE FALL.

THERE ARE MANY PRO-LIFE CANDIDATES WHO ARE RUNNING TO TAKE HIS PLACE, TO TAKE OUR GOVERNOR'S PLACE, AND WOULD BE WILLING TO PROTECT THESE CHILDREN.

>> ALL RIGHT.

GRACIEE, THANKS VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> WISCONSIN RIGHT TO LIFE SAYS IT IS NOT IN FAVOR OF REMOVING THE MEDICAL EMERGENCY EXCEPTION IN WISCONSIN LAW.

FOR ADVOCATES OF ACCESS TO LEGAL ABORTION, THE RULING OVERTURNING ROE V. WADE IS DEVASTATING.

TANYA ATKINSON IS PRESIDENT AND C.E.O.

OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF WISCONSIN AND THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SO YOU HAVE CALLED THIS A DEVASTATING RULING THAT HANDS WOMEN'S HEALTHCARE DECISIONS OVER TO POLITICIANS.

WHEN THIS RULING CAME DOWN THIS MORNING, WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR CLINICS IN WISCONSIN?

>> THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

WE HAD PEOPLE IN OUR WAITING ROOM U, IN OUR HEALTH CENTERS AND WHEN THE RULING CAME DOWN, OUR TEAM HAD TO GO OUT INTO THE LOBBY AND LET THOSE INDIVIDUALS KNOW THAT THEY -- EXCUSE ME, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE HEALTHCARE THAT THEY NEEDED.

THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD MADE A DECISION FOR THEMSELVES, THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR HEALTH, HAD TO BE TOLD THAT RATHER THAN MAKING THAT DECISION, THAT THEY HAD ALREADY MADE, THAT INSTEAD, SOMEONE ELSE HAD MADE THAT DECISION FOR THEM AND THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT CARE.

AND WE WORKED TO TRY TO FIND THEM AN APPOINTMENT IN OTHER STATES WHERE ABORTION IS STILL SAFE AND LEGAL.

>> WHAT WERE THE REACTIONS OF THE WOMEN IN THE WAITING ROOM WHEN TOLD OF THIS NEWS AND WHAT IT MEANT FOR THEM?

>> YEAH, THE REACTIONS -- YOU KNOW, IT WAS -- IT WAS -- IT WAS TRAUMATIC FOR SOME PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO -- YOU KNOW, TO NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS CARE THAT THEY HAD CONTEMPLATED AND DECIDED THAT THEY NEEDED FOR THEIR HEALTH OR THEIR FUTURE.

>> WHAT KIND OF HELP CAN PLANNED PARENTHOOD OFFER TO WOMEN SEEKING ABORTION SERVICES INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAD TO BE ESSENTIALLY TURNED AWAY TODAY?

>> YEAH, THANK YOU.

WE HAD 70 PATIENTS WITH APPOINTMENTS.

OR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

AND THESE ARE OUR FRIENDS.

THESE ARE OUR FAMILIES.

THESE ARE OUR NEIGHBORS.

AND THIS IS A HUMAN IMPACT OF THESE POLICY DECISIONS.

EVEN IN THE FACE OF THE REALITY THAT THE MAJORITY OF WISCONSIN ITS THINK ACCESS TO ABORTION SHOULD BE SAFE AND LEGAL.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, BECAUSE PLANNED PARENTHOOD REMAINS OPEN ACROSS THE STATE AND IF SOMEBODY NEEDS AN ABORTION, WE ASK THAT THEY CONTACT US AND WE CAN HELP THEM IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

WE CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THE HEALTHCARE THAT IS NOT SPECIFICALLY ABORTION.

WE HAVE NAVIGATE,THAT CAN HELP -- NAVIGATORS THAT CAN HELP THEM FIND APPOINTMENTS AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT THEY MIGHT NEED.

AND WE WILL BE THERE FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY RETURN HOME AGAIN FOR ANY AFTERCARE OR ANY OF THE ARRAY OF OTHER SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE.

>> PLANNED PARENTHOOD SAYS IT DOES NOT BELIEVE WISCONSIN'S 1849 ABORTION LAW IS ENFORCEABLE AND EXSCORING -- EXPLORING LEGAL OPTIONS.

LIKE WHAT?

>> WELL, THERE'S A NUMBER OF LEGAL OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THEM THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

AT THIS POINT IT IS NOT WORTH RISKING THE LIBERTY AND FREEDOM OF OUR HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE PAUSED SERVICES.

>> TANYA ATKINSON, PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF WISCONSIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, TAKE CARE.

>>> PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF WISCONSIN DID PREPARE AHEAD OF TODAY'S RULING.

MARISA WOJCIK VISITED ONE OF THEIR CLINIC OSMADISON'S EAST SIDE.

>> SURGICAL NURSES CLUSTER AROUND A TABLE, PREPPING FOR A BUSY DAY THURSDAY.

THE DAY BEFORE THE U.S. SUPREME COURT STRUCK DOWN ROE V. WADE.

UNDER DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES, IT WOULD BE A NORMAY DAY -- NORMAL DAY,ENS SPENT PLANNED PARENTHOOD -- EXCEPT PLANNED PARENTHOOD TOOK DRAMATIC STEPS TO REORIENT PATIENT WAY AWAY FROM ABORTION IN ANTICIPATION OF THE RULES.

THESE NURSES HAVE SEEN MANY PATIENTS, HEARD MANY STORIES.

>> WE'RE JUST HERE TO SUPPORT THEM, WHATEVER THEY DECIDE.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE BEST PART OF THIS JOB.

AS A NURSE, MY SOUL PURPOSE -- SOLE POWER PLAY -- PURPOSE IS TO SUPPORT WHO MY PATIENT WANTS AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM.

>> OVERTURNING ROE V. WADE NOW CRIMINALIZES ABORTION.

>> I LOVE THIS JOB.

I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THIS JOB.

AND YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION AND EFFORTS RIGHT NOW FOR SOME OF US TO TRAVEL TO ILLINOIS TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ABORTION SERVICES AND HELP WITH SOME OF THE INFLUX OF PATIENTS THAT ILLINOIS IS -- >> THE CLINIC PLANS TO REMAIN OPEN AND BOOST THEIR EARLY PREGNANCY ASSESSMENT AND FAMILY PLANNING SERVICES.

>> WE'RE NOT GETTING FIRED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY SPECIAL TYPE OF CARE THAT YOU -- THAT WE DO HERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT'S TOUGH.

>> FOR "HERE AND NOW," I'M MARISA WOJCIK IN MADISON.

>>> WISCONSIN LAWMAKERS ALSO WEIGHED IN.

GOVERNOR TONY EVERS SAID QUOTE, THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY DISASTROUS AND UNCONSCIONABLE DECISION BY THE SUMMERTIME SUPREME COURT.

THE CONSEQUENCES OF WHICH I HOPE TO NEVER SEE AGAIN IN MY LIFETIME.

WISCONSIN'S DEMOCRATIC U.S.

SENATOR TOMMY BALDWIN SAID REPUBLICANS HAVE TAKEN WISCONSIN WOMEN BACK TO 1849.

AND IT IS REPUBLICANS WHO WANT TO KEEP US THERE WITH SUPPORT FOR HAVING POLITICIANS INTERFERE IN THE FREEDOMS OF WOMEN WHO WILL NOW HAVE FEWER RIGHTS THAN THEIR MOTHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS HAVE HAD FOR DECADES.

AND REPUBLICAN U.S.

SENATOR RON JOHNSON SAID, QUOTE, FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS, THE DECISION OF NINE UNELECTED JUSTICES HAVE PREVENTED A DEMOCRATICALLY DERIVE CONVINCE ON THE PROFOUND MORAL ISSUE OF ABORTION TO BE FORMED.

THIS DECISION HE SAYS WILL NOW ALLOW THAT DEMOCRATIC PROCESS TO UNFOLD IN EACH STATE.

THIS WEEK THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE INSURRECTION AT THE U.S. CAPITOL FOUND WISCONSIN AND SENATOR RON JOHNSON FIGURING PROMINENTLY IN TESTIMONY THAT DONALD TRUMP ORCHESTRATED THE EFFORT TO OVERTURN 2020 ELECTION RESULTS.

THE COMMITTEE FOCUSED ON THE SLATE OF FALSE REPUBLICAN ELECTORS FROM SEVEN BATTLEGROUND STATES INCLUDING WISCONSIN, SAYING THE SCHEME WAS TO HAVE VICE PRESIDENT PENCE COUNT THEIR VOTES INSPED OF THOSE -- INSTEAD OF THOSE OF THE STATE-SURVIVED BIDEN LEGISLATORS.

ONE EXHIBIT SHOWED A TEXT MESSAGE JUST BEFORE THE VICE PRESIDENT'S COUNTING OF VOTES ON JANUARY 6th FROM JOHNSON'S CHIEF OF STAFF TO PENCE'S STAFFER.

IT SAID, JOHNSON NEEDS TO HAND SOMETHING TO V-POTUS.

THE PENCE STAFFER ASKED, WHAT IS IT.

JOHNSON'S CHIEF TEXTED, AN ALTERNATE SLATE OF ELECTO, FORCE MICHIGAN AND WISCONSIN, TO WHICH PENCE'S PERSON SAYS DO NOT GIVE THAT TO HIM.

>> THIS IS A TOTAL PARTISAN WITCH HUNT.

>> FOLLOWING THE COMMITTEE HEARING, JOHNSON TOLD REPORTERS HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ANY OF IT.

ONE OF WISCONSIN'S FALSE ELECTORS, FORMER CHAIR OF THE STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY, ANDREW HITT, WAS DPOADZ BY THE COMMITTEE AND SAID HE UNDERSTOOD THE GOP ELECTORS VOTES WOULD ONLY COME INTO PLAY IN ANY OF TRUMP'S LEGAL CHALLENGES SUCCEEDED.

>> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN USING OUR ELECTORS -- IT WOULD HAVE BEEN USING OUR LEGISLATORS IN WAYS THAT -- ELECTORS IN WAYS WE WEREN'T TOLD ABOUT.

AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE SUPPORTED.

>> IN THE 2022 ELECTIONS, THE PRIMARY IN WISCONSIN FOR GOVERNOR AND U.S. SENATE ARE NOW JUST SIX WEEKS AWAY ON AUGUST 9.

AND MARQUETTE LAW SCHOOL POLLSTER CHARLES FRANKLIN TOOK VOTERS' TEMPERATURES ON THE CANDIDATES THIS WEEK.

HE JOINS US NOW WITH RESULTS OF HIS LATEST STATEWIDE POLL.

AND CHARLES, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

>> GOOD TO BE HERE.

>> BEFORE GETTING INTO YOUR LATEST POLLING, IN MAY YOUR SURVEY FOUND THAT 69% OF RESPONDENTS DID NOT FAVOR OVERTURNING ROE V. WADE.

NOW THIS HAS HAPPENED.

WHERE DO VOTERS GO WITH THAT SENTIMENT?

>> YEAH, AND THAT 69% WAS IN THE NATIONAL SURVEY.

SO THOSE WERE VOTERS NATIONWIDE.

HERE IN WISCONSIN, WE'VE CONSISTENTLY FOUND AROUND 59 OR 60% FAVOR LEGAL ABORTION IN ALL OR MOST CASES, ABOUT 35% SAY IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL IN ALL OR MOST CASES.

AND THOSE NUMBERS HAVE BARELY BUDGED OVER THE LAST DECADE.

I THINK WHAT THE COURT'S DECISION TODAY DOES, THOUGH, IS IT THROWS ABORTION POLICY BACK TO GOVERNORS AND LEGISLATURES AROUND THE COUNTRY.

AND THAT MAKES THIS AN ISSUE IN WHICH THOSE GOVERNORS AND LEGISLATURES HAVE VASTLY MORE CONTROL THAN THEY'VE HAD FOR 49 YEARS.

THAT MAKES IT LIKELY THAT THIS BECOMES A REALLY PERTINENT ISSUE IN THE FALL CAMPAIGNS.

>> INDEED.

LET'S GET NOW THEN TO THE RESULTS OF THIS WEEK'S POLITICAL POLLING.

ACCORDING TO YOUR RESULTS, TIM MICHELS HAS -- UP TO THE TOP NOW.

27-26 OVER REBECCA CLAY FISH.

TIM RAMTHUN AT 3%.

IT DIDN'T TAKE MICHELS LONG TO MAKE IT COMPETITIVE WITH THE FRONTRUNNER.

>> NO, IT SEEMS CLEAR THERE WERE VOTERS SITTING ON THE SIDELINES IN THE REPUBLICAN PRY PRAYER THAT DID COME -- PRIMARY THAT DID COME TO HIM QUICKLY, A MONTH AND A HALF AFTER HE GOT IN THE RACE.

KLEEFISCH AND MICHELS PICKS UP 27%.

SO OBVIOUSLY, MOST OF WHAT HE PICKED UP CAME FROM DON'TS -- DON'T KNOWS, WHICH CAME DOWN FROM NEARLY HALF TO ONLY ABOUT A THIRD NOW.

>> YOU CAN SEE THE FULL SLATE OF ELECTION POLLING AND OUR EXTENDED INTERVIEW WITH CHARLES FRANKLIN ON OUR WEB PAGE.

>>> NOW FOR A STRAIGHT-UP PARTISAN LOOK AT UPCOMING ELECTIONS, WE TURN TO REPUBLICAN BILL McCOSHEN AND DEMOCRAT SCOTT ROSS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

NICE TO SEE YOU.

BUT SCOTT, FIRST TO YOU.

HOW DOES THE ISSUE OF OF ABORTION ACCESS PLAY INTO VOTERS' DECISIONS IN WISCONSIN WHERE A STANDING LAW ON THE BOOKS CRIMINALIZING ABORTION COULDN'T BE VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR IN ANY CASE?

>> YEAH, BUT IT'S ALSO WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE RE-ELECT GOVERNOR TONY EVERS BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM FOR WOMEN.

HE HAS VETOED NINE SEPARATE ATTACKS ON REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM THAT WOULD PUNISH WOMEN AND DOCTORS.

AND REMEMBER, THE REPUBLICAN POSITION IS THAT THEY'VE STAKED OUT IS AMATH MA TO WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.

OVER 50% SUPPORT REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS.

ONLY 11% SUPPORT WHAT CLE FISH, WHAT MICHELS ARE THE REPUBLICANS SAYING, NO EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE AND INSESSION.

THAT'S JUST DEVASTATING.

>> BILL, HOW DOES ABORTION PLAY INTO VOTERS' DECISIONS AT THE POLLS?

>> WELL, CHIPS -- IT RUNS FROM A STATE ISSUE.

STATE SENATE, ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, WHAT'S YOUR POSITION ON ABORTION, BECAUSE STATES WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MODIFY LAWS.

WISCONSIN HAS A LAW ON THE BOOKS.

SO IT WILL -- THEY'LL GET ASKED ABOUT THAT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

SO ABORTION NEVER USED TO BE A PRIMARY ISSUE IN GENERALLY LEAKS.

ALL THE -- ELECTIONS.

ALWAYS HAS BEEN ON THE PRIMARIES BUT NOW IT'S GOING TO BE A GENERAL ELECTION ISSUE FOR LEGISLATIVE RACES.

>> HAS FOR WHO'S GOING -- AS FOR WHO'S GOING TO GET TUT AND VOTE, REPUBLICAN REPORTERS SEEM MORE ENTHUSIASTIC VOTERS THAN DEMOCRATS.

WHAT IS DRAGGING DOWN THE DEMOCRATS' ENTHUSIASM?

>> I THINK IT'S A COUPLE THING.

WE STILL HAVE A HANGOVER FROM THE PANDEMIC.

AND DEMOCRATS ARE IN CHARGE.

DEMOCRATS HAVE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HERE AND DEMOCRATS HAVE CONTROL OF THE GOVERNOR'S -- OR THE PRESIDENCY AND BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A FUNCTIONAL MAJORITY.

BUT THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

YOU HAVE IT.

YOU OWN IT.

AND THAT'S WHY DEMOCRATS HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ARTICULATING THESE CONTRASTS BETWEEN THE REPUBLICANS LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, ABORTION.

>> BILL, WHY ARE REPUBLICANS MORE PROMPT IN YOUR MIND?

>> I'M GOING TO STEAL A LINE FROM JAMES CAR VERY WELL.

-- CARVILLE.

IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S DRAGGING DOWN DEMOCRATS.

REPUBLICANS ARE FIRED UP ABOUT INFLATION.

IT'S AT A 41-YEAR HIGH.

GAS PRICES ARE AT THE ANY OF US CAN REP IN -- REMEMBER IN OUR LIFETIME.

THOSE ARE KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AND THAT'S WHAT'S MOTIVATING THE REPUBLICANS.

THEY WANT TO SEE A CHANGE.

AND THAT WILL ENVIRONMENT, WE'LL GET TO THAT LATER, IS GOING TO HELP RON JOHNSON.

>> I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

DOES BIDEN OWN INFLATION?

>> IT'S A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK A REPUBLICAN CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO SOLVE IT OTHER THAN TAX BREAKS TO RICH PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY ELIXIR THEY HAVE.

BUT ATTACKING WORKERS' RIGHTS, THAT'S THE OTHER THING.

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD DO.

HERE'S THE THING.

DEMOCRATS -- IF THE CAMPAIGN TALKS ABOUT ABORTION, HEALTHCARE, AND GUNS, DEMOCRATS WILL DO VERY WELL.

IT'S A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING BECAUSE OF INFLATION AND YOU KNOW, IF IT TALKS ABOUT INFLATION, BECAUSE BIDEN IS THE PRESIDENT AND IT IS CHALLENGING.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT REPUBLICAN U.S.

SENATOR RON JOHNSON.

HIS FAVORABILITY AS WE KNOW IS WAY UPSIDE DOWN RIGHT NOW IN THAT LATEST POLL.

PLUS, CAN SOMEONE OFFER UP FALSE ELECTORS TO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND GET RE-ELECTED?

I'M ASKING BILL THIS FIRST, BECAUSE HE'S YOUR PARTY'S CANDIDATE.

>> YEAH, LET ME START WITH THE SECOND PART OF THAT.

I THINK THAT I WOULDN'T WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT HIS FAVOR ONLY UNFAVORABLE.

I THINK THE ENVIRONMENT IS CERTAINLY HELPS HIM.

STARTING WITH THE ECONOMY.

STARTING WITH HOW PEOPLE YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MORE LAYOFFS COMING.

PEOPLE ARE LOSING MORE OF THEIR PAYCHECKS BECAUSE INFLATION IS SUCKING UP MORE OF THEIR HARD-EARNED DOLLARS.

SO THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK FOR JOHNSON.

REGARDLESS OF WHO HIS OPPONENT IS.

ON YOUR LAST POINT, YOU KNOW, RON JOHNSON HAS SAID THAT HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6th.

I'LL TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD.

HE SAID IT WAS STAFFED TO STAFF.

THAT'S ALL THE EVIDENCE WE HAVE SO FAR, IS THAT IT WAS STAFF TO STAFF.

SO WE'LL SEE IF ANYTHING ELSE COMES TO LIGHT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.

>> YEAH, PLEASE.

RON JOHNSON WANTS US TO BELIEVE THAT HE HAD A PACKAGE DELIVERED TO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE A HOUSE INTERN TOLD HIM TO DO IT.

WITH PEOPLE LIKE LAUREN BOEBERT AND MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE AND YOU KNOW, JOSH HAWLEY, IN THE SENATE, SOMETIMES YOU SAY, TOO STUPID TO BE IN CONGRESS BUT IN THIS CASE WE MIGHT THERE BE, UNLESS RORN JOHNSON IS LYING, THE GUY WHO SAID HE WOULDN'T RUN FOR A THIRD TERM AND THE GUY WHO GAVE HIS DONORS HUGE TAX BREAKS.

THAT GUY MIGHT BE LYING.

>> SO BILL, JUST BACK TO THAT, I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR HIS BASE?

THAT HE -- HIS STAFF, HE SAYS HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

BUT IT'S RIGHT THERE.

TO THE SCREEN -- ON THE JEAN IN THE COMMITTEE -- ON THE SCREEN IN THE COMMITTEE THEY'RE WHEN -- WHERE HE WANTS TO HAND DELIVER THIS TO THE VICE PRESIDENT.

DOES HE WANT TO FIRE UP HIS BASE?

>> HIS BASE IS FIRED UP.

IF YOU WENT TO THE STATE CONVENTION, THE MOST POPULAR GUY IN THAT BUILDING WAG RON JOHNSON.

THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

THE REPUBLICAN BASE LOVES HIM.

AND HE WILL HAVE THEIR FULL SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN.

TO WIN HE'S GOING TO NEED INDEPENDENTS AS WELL.

AND SO I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE GROUP THAT I'D BE WORRIED ABOUT, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT ALL THIS.

BUT WILL THEY ACCEPT HIS EXPLANATION OR WILL THEY LOOK FOR MORE?

WE'LL SEE.

BUT HIS BASE IS ROCK SOLID.

>> RON JOHNSON IS THE LEADER OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WISCONSIN.

AND HE IS LOSING TO HIS OPPONENTS.

TONY REVERSE IS BEATING ALL OF HIS OPPONENTS.

DEMOCRATS HAVE CHALLENGES BUT LIKE OUR PEOPLE ARE AHEAD IN THE POLLS.

>> JUST BY THIS MUCH AND THEN THAT ENTHUSIASM COMES IN.

BUT MEANWHILE, IN THIS RACE, FOR GOVERNOR, TIM MIC WREELS HAS OVERTAKE -- MICHELS HAS OVERTAKEN REBECCA.

BILL, WHO'S YOUR CANDIDATE HERE?

>> THE MOMENTUM IN THIS RACE RIGHT NOW IS ON MICHAEL'S SIDE.

HE'S GOT THE RESOURCES TO COME OUT SWINGING ON AUGUST 10th AFTER HE WINS THIS PRIMARY.

SO YOU KNOW, IF I'M THE MICHELS CAMPAIGN, I'M NOT TAKING ANYTHING FOR GRANTED.

REBECCA WORKS HER TAIL OFF.

SHE'S INVESTED A LOT IN THIS RACE.

AND SHE'S NOT GOING TO GO DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT.

SO THIS FINAL 45 DAYS WILL SORT OF THE CONTRAST PHASE OF THAT RACE AND I EXPECT THERE TO BE SOME JABS GOING BACK AND FORTH.

BUT IF YOU'RE PLACING A BET TODAY, I'D PLACE IT ON MICHELS BECAUSE HE'S GOT THE MOMENTUM.

>> SCOTT, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE CANDIDATES?

>> THEY'RE ALL JUMPING OVER EACH OTHER TO BE AS DIVISIVE AS POSSIBLE.

GOVERNOR EVERS SPENT THE LAST THEE YEARS DOING WHAT'S WRITE FOR WISCONSIN MOVING URS FORWARD.

WE'RE BETTER AND STRONGER THAN WE WERE WHEN HE TOOK OFFICE.

AND HE CONTINUES TO TRY AND WORK WITH THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE.

NOT WORKING SO WELL BUT HE'S TALKING TO REPUBLICAN VOTERS AT THE SAME TIME ABOUT THAT WHO MAY BE HAVING TROUBLE WITH WHERE THEIR PARTY HAS GONE, BECAUSE IT'S GONE OFF THE DEEP END.

AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THE REPUBLICANS ARE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES FACING THE COUNTRY.

GAS PRICES, RIGHT?

WHERE ARE WE AT WITH GAS PRICES?

REPUBLICANS SAY IT'S A BIG PROBLEM FOR DEMOCRATS.

THE FACT IS REPUBLICANS ARE IN THE POCKET OF BIG OIL.

>> I WANT TO GIVE THE FINAL WORD, 30 SECONDS, TO BILL.

GO AHEAD.

>> YEAH, LET'S GO BACK TO GOVERNOR EVERS.

HE'S LIKE MR. ROGERS.

HE'S A LIKABLE GUY.

HE'S NOT POLARIZING.

THAT'S A BRAND THAT WORKS FOR HIM.

TOMMY THOMPSON IS THE ONLY GOVERNOR WHO HAS WON RE-ELECTION WHEN HIS PARTY CONTROLLED THE WHITE HOUSE.

THAT WAS IN AN 1990.

I WAS A COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR ON THAT CAMPAIGN.

AND THE POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT, THERE'S POLITICAL GRAVITY THAT WILL PLAY IN HERE.

RIGHT TRACK, WRONG DIRECTION, IS UPSIDE DOWN BY 20 POINTS.

YES, EVERS NUMBERS ARE GOOD.

WE WON'T BE -- WON'T BE EASY TO BEAT.

THE HISTORY IS NOT ON HIS SIDE.

>> THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH.

WE'LL HAVE YOU BACK SOON.

>>> IN OTHER NEWS, THE FDA THIS WEEK GAVE EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION FOR COVID-19 VACCINES IN CHILDREN FROM 6 MONTHS TO 5 YEARS OLD.

MARISA WOJCIK SAT DOWN WITH SPECIALIST DR. JAMES CONWAY FOR MORE.

>> WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD FROM PARENTS, IF ANY, NOW THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE COVID-19 VACCINE HAS COME OUT FOR KIDS UNDER 5?

>> YEAH, WITH EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC, IT'S A MIXED BAG.

THERE'S A LARGE GROUP OF PARENTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED, THAT I HAVE BEEN -- THEY'VE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME AND ARE EAGER TO GET THEIR KIDS SIGNED UP AND ARE FRUSTRATED THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH VACCINE.

THERE'S A GROUP, THE LARGEST GROUP, THAT HAVE TAKEN THE WAIT-AND-SEE ATTITUDE, ALTHOUGH IT'S A SPLIT GROUP.

ONE GROUP DOESN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE HASSLE AND TRYING TO COMPETE TO GET SLOTS, SO THEY'RE WAITING AND SEEING MOSTLY TO BE ABLE TO GET IT EASILY.

BUT ANOTHER GROUP THAT DOES WANT TO SEE MORE DATA COME OUT FROM LARGER SECTIONS OF THE POPULATION.

AND THEN THERE'S A RELATIVELY SMALL GROUP THAT ARE FIERCELY OPPOSED AND THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO GET IT NO MATTER WHAT WE ASK THEM TO DO.

>> THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION, THOUGH, THAT KIDS ARE LESS VULNERABLE.

DO CHILDREN AND PARENTS OF KIDS OF THIS AGE GROUP FEEL LEFT BEHIND?

>> I WON'T ARGUE THE FACT THAT MOST KIDS DO FINE AND RECOVER FROM IT.

BUT WE ARE SEEING NOW THE SAME THINGS WE SEE IN ADULT.

KIDS WITH LONG COVID, KIDS WITH PERMANENT DISABILITIES RELATED TO LONG -- LUNG AND HEART INJURIES OR NEUROLOGICAL PROBLEMS.

SO I THINK WE'VE LEARNED A LOT MORE WITH THIS LAST OMICRON SURGE BECAUSE WE HAD A VERY DIFFERENT DYNAMIC AS FAR AS BEHAVIOR AND ALSO WHO WAS VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

>> WHICH BRANDS OF THE VACCINES HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND AT WHAT DOSAGES?

>> SO THE PFIZER KIDS ARE GOING TO GET THREE DOSES.

WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY SEEMED TO BE GETTING READY TO SUBMIT THEIR INFORMATION BACK IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH, PEOPLE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE EFFECTIVE ENOUGH WITH TWO DOSES, SOE THEY CONTINUED THOSE STUDIES AND BASICALLY EXTENDED THEM AND DECIDED ON THREE DOSES.

MODERNA IS COMING IN WITH TWO DOSES.

AT THAT 25 MICROGRAMS.

I THINK MOST OF THE EXPECTATIONS ARE THESE -- THESE GROUPS WILL EVENTUALLY NEED BOOSTERS THE SAME FOR ALL THE OTHER AGE GROUPS, INCLUDING THE 5- TO 11-YEAR-OLDS.

>> NOW, YOU'VE DEALT WITH.

>> S IN YOUNGER HUMANS FOR QUITE A WHILE.

AND WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO PARENTS OR GUARDIANS THAT ARE UNSURE ABOUT EVACUATING THEIR -- VACCINATES THEIR CHILD BETWEEN 6 MONTHS AND 5 YEARS OLD?

>> THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS.

THIS VIRUS IS UNPREDICTABLE.

AND AS MUCH AS WE THINK WE UNDERSTAND IT, IT DOES THINGS AND IT CHANGES THAT ACTUALLY THEN LEADS TO UNEXPECTED CONSEQUENCES.

SOME OF WHICH ARE PRETTY UNFORTUNATE.

AND SO I THINK IT'S A FALSE NARRATIVE TO CONVINCE OURSELF THAT IS THE VIRUS IS GETTING MILDER OR LESS INVASIVE OR LESS TRANSMISSIBLE.

I THINK THE OTHER THING IS THAT THIS VIRUS KEEPS CHANGING.

AND AS IT KEEPS MUTATING, PEOPLE ARE NOT MAINTAINING THEIR IMMUNITY.

BUT WE CAN'T LET OURSELVES BE FOOLED BY THAT PREDICTING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROTECTED AND HAVE A MILDER CASE OR HAVE NO INFECTION WHEN IT COMES AROUND.

SO WE'VE GOT A TOOL NOW THAT IS EXTRAORDINARILY SAFE IN ALL THESE STUDIES.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE AS BEING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE HOW WE THINK ABOUT THIS, IS TRYING TO GIVE ESSENTIALLY EQUITABLE PROTECTION TO ALL AGE GROUPS SO THAT THEY'RE PROTECTED AGAINST THE WORST OUTCOMES THAT CAN HAPPEN, AS WE CONTINUE TO LEARN ABOUT THIS REALLY SORT OF RAPIDLY CHANGING DYNAMIC OF THIS PANDEMIC IN FRONT OF US.

>> SO IF A PARENT OR GUARDIAN IS OUT THERE LISTENING TO THIS AND THEY ARE REALLY EAGER TO GET THEIR CHILD VACCINATED, CAN THEY JUST GO TO THE PHARMACY, LIKE SO MANY OF US HAVE, TO GET OUR COVID SHOT OR IS THERE A DIFFERENT PROCEDURE FOR THIS REALLY YOUNGER GROUP?

>> YEAH, NOT QUITE YET.

I THINK THAT CURRENTLY THE SUPPLIES ARE JUST STARTING TO ROLL OUT AND THEY'RE SHIPPING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND BEING ALLOCATED OUT.

SO I THINK EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR APPOINTMENTS, WHETHER PHARMACIES, PUBLIC HEALTH, OR HEALTH SYSTEMS, UNTIL THERE IS MUCH MORE SUPPLY AVAILABLE.

BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE OF AN EFFORT NOW TO MOVE THE VACCINES OUT INTO MY PRAYER CARE OFFICES TO -- PRY MAYOR CARE OFFICES AND WHERE THEY'RE MORE FAMILIAR AND COMFORTABLE AND WHERE THEY CAN TALK TO PEOPLE AND GET THEIR ANSWERS.

UNDER AGE 3 KIDS NEED A PRECIPITATION.

THEN -- PREPARATION.

THEN THE PHARMACY CAN REACH OUT.

UNDER AGE 3 PEOPLE NEED SOMETHING THAT A PROVIDER HAS PRESCRIBED IT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

DR. CONWAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS INFORMATION.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

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