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On tonight's episode: Marisa Wojcik on reactions to the not guilty verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial; Angela Lang on what can be learned from the Kyle Rittenhouse trial; Dr. Melanie Swift on COVID-19 boosters and another holiday season in the pandemic; Rebecca Cooke on her run for Wisconsin’s open 3rd Congressional District seat.
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Here and Now
Here & Now for November 19, 2021
Season 2000 Episode 2021 | 26m 54sVideo has Closed Captions
On tonight's episode: Marisa Wojcik on reactions to the not guilty verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial; Angela Lang on what can be learned from the Kyle Rittenhouse trial; Dr. Melanie Swift on COVID-19 boosters and another holiday season in the pandemic; Rebecca Cooke on her run for Wisconsin’s open 3rd Congressional District seat.
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>> THE EYES OF THE WORLD TURN TO KENOSHA ONCE AGAIN.
>> JURY IN THE U.S. OF WISCONSIN.
>> AS THE FATE OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE LANDS IN THE HANDS OF A KENOSHA JURY, A JURY WHICH DELIBERATED FOR DAYS, WEIGHING CHARGES OF MURDER.
DEMONSTRATORS MADE THEIR PRESENCE KNOWN WHILE AWAITING THE VERDICT.
AND PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS WARN OF INCREASING STRAIN ON THE STATE'S HOSPITAL SYSTEM AS COVID-19 CASES TICK UP.
>> WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO SOUND THE ALARM THAT COVID-19 EPIDEMIC IS HEATING UP.
>> FIRST TONIGHT, KYLE RITTENHOUSE FOUND NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS.
>> THE FIRST COUNT OF THE INFORMATION, JOSEPH ROSENBAUM, WE, THE JURY, FIND THE DEFENDANT, KYLE H. RITTENHOUSE, NOT GUILTY.
AS TO THE SECOND COUNT OF THE INFORMATION, RICHARD MCGI MCGIN, WE, THE JURY, FIND THE DEFENDANT, KYLE RITTENHOUSE NOT GUILTY.
>> WE HEAR THE LATEST FROM REPORTER MARISA WOJCIK.
WHAT TO EXPECT WITH COVID-19 NUMBERS HEADING INTO THE HOLIDAYS.
AND ANOTHER DEMOCRAT ENTERS THE RACE TO REPLACE RON KIND.
IT'S "HERE AND NOW" FOR NOVEMBER 19.
>> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS PROVIDED BY THE FOCUS FUND FOR JOURNALISM AND FRIENDS OF PBS WISCONSIN.
>> THE VERDICT IN THE MURDER TRIAL OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE IN KENOSHA, NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS.
THE WORLD WAS WATCHING THE CASE OF A TEENAGER ARMED WITH AN AR-15 WHO INSERTED HIMSELF INTO A CHAOTIC RACIAL JUSTICE PROTEST AS A SELF-DESCRIBED MEDIC.
HE ADMITTED HE SHOT THREE MEN, KILLING TWO OF THEM.
BUT HE TESTIFIED IT WAS SELF-DEFENSE.
WE GO TO KENOSHA AND TO "HERE AND NOW" REPORTER MARISA WOJCIK.
MARISA, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> AFTER 26 HOURS OF DELIBERATING, THE JURY FOUND RITTENHOUSE NOT GUILTY ON ALL FIVE COUNTS.
>> WE NEED TO BE IN THE PROCESS OF REBUILDING THE SYSTEM THAT CONTINUALLY AFRICAN-AMERICANS GOING TO JAIL WHILE WHITE COUNTERPARTS COMMIT HEINOUS CRIMES AND GO HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES.
>> AS HE SAID WHEN HE TESTIFIED, HE DID NOT START THIS AND WE'RE THANKFUL IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE THAT THE JURY FINALLY GOT TO HEAR THE TRUE STORY.
>> SO THIS IS THE END OF THE STORY, BUT WHERE DID IT ALL BEGIN?
>> ALL WEEK LONG, TENSIONS ROSE OVER THE CASE OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE.
RITTENHOUSE STOOD TRIAL ON CHARGES INCLUDING FIRST-DEGREE MURDER AFTER SHOOTING THREE PEOPLE, KILLING TWO OF THEM, DURING BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS IN KENOSHA IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.
PROSECUTORS DEPICTED RITTENHOUSE AS AN OUT-OF-TOWN AGENT OF CHAOS WHO IN AT THAT GATED THE CONFLICT WHILE DEFENDING A BUSINESS BRANDISHING AN AR-15 RIFLE AND THAT HE WAS THE ONLY REAL THREAT THAT NIGHT.
>> THESE GUYS WITH THE AR-15s ARE JUST WANNA BE SOLDIERS, TRYING TO MANUFACTURE SUCH PERSONAL CONNECTION TO THIS EVENT, FURTHERING THEIR OWN PERSONAL AGENDA, JUST A SMALL PART OF THE DELUGE OF TOURISTS WE SAW.
>> THEY PORTRAYED THE TEENAGER AS SOMEONE WITH TIES TO THE KENOSHA COMMUNITY GUARDING LOCAL BUSINESSES AND THEY SAID HE WAS PREVENTING AN IRRATIONAL AND CRAZY PROTESTOR FROM STEALING HIS AR-15 AND USING IT AGAINST HIM AND OTHERS.
>> KYLE SHOT JOSEPH ROSENBAUM TO STOP A THREAT TO HIS PERSONMENT AND I'M GLAD HE SHOT HIM BECAUSE IF JOSEPH ROSENBAUM HAD GOT THAT GUN I DON'T BELIEVE FOR A MINUTE BELIEVE HE WOULDN'T HAVE USED IT AGAINST SOMEBODY ELSE.
HE WAS IRRATIONAL AND CRAZY.
>> DURING PROCEEDINGS THE DEFENSE MADE MOTIONS FOR A MISTRIAL, INCLUDING AN ARGUMENT THAT VIDEO EVIDENCE SHOWN REPEATEDLY TO THE JURY WAS MISHANDLED.
THE TRIAL HAS FOCUSED INTERNATIONAL INTENTION ON KENOSHA, WISCONSIN.
WITH THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE VERDICT SPANNING BEYOND KYLE RITTENHOUSE AS A STATEMENT ON GUN RIGHTS, RACIAL JUSTICE AND WHITE VIGILANTISM.
>> AS THIS TRIAL CULMINATED IN THE READING OF THE VERDICT, WHAT WAS THAT LIKE WHEN IT CAME IN AS NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS?
>> IT WAS DRAMATIC INSIDE THE COURTROOM.
KYLE RITTENHOUSE WAS CRYING AND HE COLLAPSED.
OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE ACTIVISTS WERE CLEARLY DISAPPOINTED BUT THEY SAID THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR GI -- JUSTICE.
RITTENHOUSE'S ATTORNEY SAID HE REPRESENTS CLIENTS, NOT CAUSES, BUT PROTESTORS DO THINK THAT THIS IS A MATTER OF A CAUSE FOR RACIAL JUSTICE.
>> SO THERE HAS BEEN RESPONSE FROM ALL CORNERS OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, RIGHT?
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
SO DEMOCRATS LIKE GOVERNOR TONY EVERS SAY THAT WISCONSIN HAS A LONG WAY TO GO TOWARDS EQUITY.
REPUBLICANS LIKE ASSEMBLY SPEAKER ROBIN VOS SAYS THIS PROVES THAT THE JUSTICE SYSTEM WORKS.
EVEN PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN WEIGHED IN SAYING THAT WE SHOULD TRUST THE JURY SYSTEM AND ABIDE BY THEIR VERDICTS.
>> SO WE KNOW THAT TENSIONS WERE HIGH JUST AHEAD OF THE VERDICT AND THERE WERE PREDICTIONS OF TROUBLE, BUT BEHIND YOU NOW IT LOOKS QUIET, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT RR PLANS TO DO NOW?
>> HIS ATTORNEY SAID THAT KYLE AND HIS FAMILY PLAN TO MOVE OUT OF THE AREA AND HIS ATTORNEY SAYS HE HOPES THAT HE WILL KEEP A LOW PROFILE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
MARISA WOJCIK, THANKS VERY MUCH.
THANKS FOR YOUR COVERAGE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THE WEEKS OF REPLAYING THE EVENTS OF AUGUST OF 2020 DURING THE RITTENHOUSE TRIAL HAS RETRAUMATIZED PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND BEYOND.
IT'S BEEN A RELIVING OF THE ANGER AND ANGST THAT FOLLOWED THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD AND POLICE SHOOTING OF JACOB BLAKE IN KENOSHA.
NOW THE YOUNG ARMED VIGILANTE HAS BEEN EXONERATED OF MURDER.
IT'S A LOT.
ANGELA LANG OF BLACK LEADERS ORGANIZING FOR COMMUNITIES IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE ONCE AGAIN.
>> YEAH.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> SO FIRST, WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THIS VERDICT?
>> IT'S HARD.
IT'S HARD TO PROCESS.
IT'S HARD TO HEAR.
AS I'M PROCESSING AND REFLEC REFLECTING, I DON'T THINK I'M SURPRISED BY ANY MEANS.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE.
BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY LESS HEARTBREAKING AND IT DOESN'T MAKE IT HURT LESS EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW HOW OUR SYSTEM WORKS OR DOESN'T WORK FOR US.
>> NOW, YOU WROTE A SEARING ESSAY PUBLISHED THIS WEEK SAYING THAT THERE IS NO GOOD OUTCOME FROM THIS TRIAL.
WHY NOT?
>> YOU KNOW, THE WAY I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT IS THAT IF WE GOT THE VERDICT LIKE WE DID TODAY, IT'S A GIANT INJUSTICE IN THAT THIS CHILD, HE WAS 17 AT THE TIME, WAS ABLE TO CROSS STATE LINES, MURDER TWO PEOPLE, INJURE ANOTHER AND BE A FREE PERSON.
THAT'S A HUGE INJUSTICE.
BUT TO ALSO KNOW THAT HAVE HE BEEN CONVICTED, WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE CREDIBLE THREATS OF THE FAR RIGHT AND PROUD BOYS AND MILITIA FOLKS THAT WERE READY TO PICK UP WHERE KYLE HAD LEFT OFF HAD HE HAD BEEN CONVICTED.
AND SO KNOWING THAT, KNOWING THAT WHATEVER THE OUTCOME WAS, IT'S SUCH A HYPER POLARIZED TIME AND AN INCREDIBLY TENSE RACIALIZED TIME IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT KENOSHA ISN'T SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE AND THERE'S NO GOOD OUTCOME.
>> DESCRIBE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RACIAL JUSTICE MOVEMENTS AND THIS CASE, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE KILLED WERE WHITE.
>> YEAH.
AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF BLACK LIVES WERE UPSET WHEN THE VICTIMS WERE INDEED WHITE.
BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYONE WAS OUT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY PROTESTING THE SHOOTING OF JACOB BLAKE.
THEY WERE STANDING WITH THE BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTORS AND MEMBERS OF THE KENOSHA COMMUNITY.
AND SO WHETHER IT WAS A BLACK PERSON THAT WAS KILLED OR IF THEY WERE WHITE, AT THE END OF THE DAY THESE WERE PEOPLE, PART OF OUR MOVEMENT DEFENDING THE FUTURE AND LIVES OF BLACK PEOPLE.
>> ONE THING I SAW THIS WEEK WAS THAT SUPPORTERS OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE SHOWED UP OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE DURING JURY DELIBERATIONS INCLUDING A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR U.S.
SENATOR POSING WITH TWO PEOPLE HOLDING A SIGN OF WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
>> A DOG WHISTLE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD BARELY HEAR AND WAS KIND OF OVER THE RADAR.
THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE USING THESE WHITE SUPREMACIST SYMBOLS GOES TO SHOW THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE EMBOLDENS AND THEY FEAR NOTHING BECAUSE THEY SEE THAT THERE'S NO CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
AND SO WE'RE MAKING AN OPENING FOR THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR AND THESE SHOOTINGS AND THIS VIOLENCE TO CONTINUE BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A STRONG ENOUGH BACKLASH.
AND SO AT TIMES WHERE PEOPLE MAY HAVE HID UNDER A WHITE HOOD OR HID SOMEWHERE ELSE AND MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN -- AND MADE KNOWN THEIR TRUE VALUES, THEY'VE BEEN EMBOLDENED BY THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND SO MANY PEOPLE AND SITUATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT THEY'RE OKAY OPENLY FLASHING THESE WHITE SUPREMACIST SYMBOLS AS THEY'RE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
AND I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY DISTURBING AND I THINK IT'S ALSO A TERRIBLE SIGN FOR OUR DEMOCRACY AND EVERYONE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
>> IN YOUR ESSAY YOU ALSO SAID THAT THE FAILURE TO MOVE OUR COUNTRY FORWARD IS POURING GASOLINE ON A FIRE AND THAT COUNTERING RACISM CAN'T SOLELY REST ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE TRAUMATIZED AND BREATHING.
WHO ELSE SHOULD STEP IN AND WHAT SHOULD THEY DO?
>> YEAH.
THIS IS A POINT WHERE EVERYONE THAT IS UNEQUIVOCALLY AGAINST RACISM AND WHITE SUPREMACY NEEDS TO STEP IN AND THAT'S WHAT ANTHONY AND JO JO DID AND WHY WE ARE RALLYING AND WHY THIS CASE MEANS SO MUCH TO US, IS EVERYONE HAS A ROLE TO PLAY, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS NOT JUST AT THE HANDS OF BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING THE TRAUMA AND THE COLLECTIVE RACISM AND WHITE SUPREMACY ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
BUT OUR WHOLE COUNTRY NEEDS TO TAKE A STRONG STANCE AND REJECT WHITE SUPREMACY.
THE FACT THAT WE AREN'T JUST ALLOWS FOR CONTINUING AND OPENINGS FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE AND TO CONTINUE THIS BEHAVIOR AND CONTINUE, QUITE FRANKLY, THE DESTRUCTION AND EROSION OF OUR DEMOCRACY AND QUITE FRANKLY OF THIS COUNTRY.
>> ANGELA LANG, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US ON THIS DAY.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> IN THE WAKE OF THE PROTESTS IN THE SUMMER OF 2020, THE MADISON POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMISSIONED A REPORT FROM A CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESEARCH CENTER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA LAW SCHOOL.
THE REPORT LOOKED AT HOW MADISON POLICE HANDLED USE OF FORCE DURING THE PROTESTS.
>> THE REPORT MAKES 69 RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE DEPARTMENT FOR HOW TO BETTER HANDLE PROTESTS THAT TURN VIOLENT, LARGELY FOCUSING ON A LESS IS MORE APPROACH.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE USING SMALL, MOBILE POLICE FORCES INSTEAD OF LARGE POLICE LINES.
COMMUNICATING MORE WITH PROTESTORS BEFORE AND DURING DEMONSTRATIONS.
HAVING MORE TRAINING FOR POLICE OFFICERS.
HAVING THEM WEAR BODY CAMERAS AND LIMITING USE OF TEAR GAS FOR ONLY WHEN THERE IS A RISK OF IMMINENT PHYSICAL DANGER TO PEOPLE OR PROPERTY.
>> EVERYONE SHOULD AVOID CS GAS WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
THAT IS -- I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT 110%.
BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO WEIGH AND THAT IS THE HARM TO HUMAN BEINGS, THE HARM TO LIFE.
>> MADISON POLICE CHIEF SAYS HE PLANS TO ADOPT ALL 69 OF THE REPORT'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
AT THE STATE CAPITOL THIS WEEK, A LEGISLATIVE TASK FORCE LOOKING AT EDUCATION AND ECONOMIC RACIAL DISPARITIES RELEASED ITS FINAL REPORT.
THIS GROUP IS PART OF THE TASK FORCE ASSEMBLY SPEAKER ROBIN VOS CONVENED IN THE WAKE OF THE GEORGE FLOYD PROTESTS.
>> THERE'S BEEN A GREAT ENDEAVOR.
WE'VE COVERED EDUCATIONAL STUFF, INCREASING DIVERSITY IN THE TEACHER WORKFORCE, GETTING AND MAINTAINING MORE TEACHERS OF COLOR, BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS TO THAT AND BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS IN EDUCATION AND INCREASING READING LITERACY.
>> IN PANDEMIC NEWS, AS FOUL --L ROUNDS INTO WINTER, HEALTH OFFICIALS ARE SOUNDING THE ALARM ON THE COVID-19 SURGE SAYING DAILY CASE COUNTS NEARING 4,000 HAVEN'T BEEN SEEN SINCE THE END OF 2020.
WISCONSIN HOSPITALS ARE NOW NEARLY FULL, WITH 96% OF ICU BEDS TAKEN.
THAT LEADING HEALTH OFFICIALS TO BESEECH PEOPLE TO HELP FLATTEN THE CURVE.
<!32768> >> IT'S GETTING HARD TO FIND BEDS FOR PATIENTS, PEOPLE WHO NEED A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE.
IT'S BECOMING MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND A BED TO TRANSFER THEM.
>> MINNESOTA AND MICHIGAN HAVE THE WORST RATE OF NEW COVID INFECTIONS IN THE COUNTRY.
FOR THE LATEST ON WHAT'S GOING ON REGIONALLY, WE TURN TO MAYO CLINIC AND DR. MELANIE SWIFT WHO JOINS US FROM ROCHESTER, MINNESOTA.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> SO WHY IS THIS HAPPENING AGAIN AND WHY IN THE UPPER MIDWEST?
>> IT'S BOTH A BLESSING AND A CURSE THAT WE'VE HAD HIGHER UPTICK OF VACCINATION IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY THAN SOME OTHER REGIONS.
IT HAS HELPED TO SLOW THE CURVE OF THIS RECENT SURGE.
SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE HUGE, DRAMATIC PEAKS OF CASES THAT SOME PARTS OF THE COUNTRY EXPERIENCED LAST SUMMER WITH THE DELTA VARIANT.
INSTEAD, WE HAVE HAD MORE MODEST CASES, BUT THEY HAVE NOT EXTINGUISHED OVER TIME AS YOU DO WHEN YOU HAVE A MORE AGGRESSIVE SURGE.
SO WE CONTINUE TO HAVE WHAT WE KIND OF CALL FUEL FOR THE FIRE: UNVACCINATED PEOPLE AT JUST ENOUGH LEVEL THAT THEY CONTINUE TO CONTRACT AND SPREAD COVID.
>> SO IF THE ANSWER TO HELP FLATTEN THIS CURVE EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THAT DRAMATIC SURGE THAT YOU DESCRIBED, IF THE ANSWER IS TO GET VACCINATED, WHAT MORE CAN BE DONE, ESPECIALLY IN COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATES THAT HAVE LOWER VACCINATION RATES?
>> I THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN TERMS OF WORKPLACE REQUIREMENTS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S RATHER CONTENTIOUS.
BUT IT APPEARS TO BE LIKELY NECESSARY TO GET THE LEVELS OF VACCINATION THAT WE NEED.
WE ARE FORTUNATELY ABLE TO NOW VACCINATE CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS FIVE NOW THAT SCHOOLS ARE BACK TRYING TO MEET IN PERSON, FAMILIES ARE GOING TO TRY TO GATHER OVER THE HOLIDAYS AND INTO NEXT YEAR.
VACCINATING CHILDREN COULD HELP US STOP THIS SURGE THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
>> AS THE MONTHS TICK BY, PROTECTION FROM TWO-DOSE VACCINES EVEN AND NATURAL IMMUNITY FROM INFECTION WANE, I UNDERSTAND, SO ARE THE UNVACCINATED AND WANING COMMUNITY GROUPS COLLIDING WITH THE DELTA VARIANT AND NOW INDOOR WEATHER?
>> ALL OF THOSE FACTORS ARE PLAYING A ROLE.
WE ARE SEEING IN OUR OWN INTERNAL DATA THAT UNVACCINATED PEOPLE ARE BEING INFECTED AT MUCH HIGHER THE RATE THAN VACCINATED PEOPLE WHO EVEN HAVEN'T HAD A BOOSTER YET WHO ARE STILL BEING INFECTED AT A HIGHER RATE THAN THOSE WHO HAVE HAD THEIR BOOSTER.
WE DO EXPECT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CDC SOON FOR BOOSTERS FOR ALL AND ENCOURAGE ANYONE ELIGIBLE TO GO AHEAD AND GET IT WHERE WE HEAD INTO THE SEASON THAT COULD MAKE IT A BAD WINTER FOR COVID.
>> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ONLY THE FULLY-VACCINATED PEOPLE ARE THOSE WITH BOOSTERS?
>> FULLY VACCINATED CONTINUES TO MEAN THAT YOU'VE HAD YOUR INITIAL SERIES PLUS TWO WEEKS OF TIME.
HOWEVER, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED A NEW TERM FOR FULLY VACCINATED AND UP-TO-DATE WITH ALL RECOMMENDED BOOSTERS.
>> IS IT REALLY SAFE AT THIS POINT WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THESE KIND OF CASE COUNTS IN WISCONSIN AND MINNESOTA, IS IT REALLY SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER FOR THANKSGIVING OR TRAVEL?
>> I THINK THAT WE UNFORTUNATELY NEED TO BE EXERCISING CAUTION LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THANKSGIVING COMING UP.
CHILDREN ARE NOT YET FULLY VACCINATED AND WON'T BE UNTIL MID TO LATE DECEMBER.
AND FAMILIES CANNOT TAKE A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY FROM THAT FIRST SHOT OF VACCINE.
AND UNVACCINATED PEOPLE CONTINUE TO BE AT HIGH RISK.
INITIALLY VACCINATED PEOPLE WITHOUT A BOOSTER VACCINATED MORE THAN SIX MONTHS AGO, THEY ARE AT HIGHER RISK THAN THEIR BOOSTED COUNTERPARTS.
SO WE DO HAVE TO CONTINUE TAKING PRECAUTIONS.
>> YEAH.
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST OVERHEARING THAT, RIGHT?
BUT I WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION.
WISCONSIN'S GUN DEER SEASON OPENS SATURDAY AND OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT IN WISCONSIN HAS OFFERED GUIDANCE THAT HUNTERS SHOULD MASK WHILE FIELD DRESSING DEER.
HOW CONCERNING IS THE RESEARCH SHOWING THE DEER POPULATION INFECTED WITH COVID?
>> I THINK THAT'S AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.
THERE CERTAINLY IS EVIDENCE THAT WHITETAIL DEER HAVE ANTIBODIES TO COVID AND HAVE BEEN INFECTED.
THERE'S REALLY NO EVIDENCE OF A SIGNIFICANT SPREAD TO HUMANS.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN GET MANY THINGS FROM DEER AND OTHER WILDLIFE.
SO PRECAUTIONS LIKE WEARING GLOVES ARE VERY IMPORTANT, NOT LETTING YOUR HUNTING DOGS OR OTHER ANIMALS COME IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH WILD ANIMALS, NOT EATING, DRINKING, SMOKING WHILE YOU'RE DRESSING DEER.
WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT USDA OR CDC HAS SEEN IN TERMS OF WILDLIFE LIKE DEER TRANSMITTING COVID DIRECTLY TO HUMANS.
SO THAT'S AN EXTRA MEASURE OF CAUTION, BUT I DON'T HAVE CONCERN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT TRANSMISSION FROM DEER TO HUNTERS.
>> VERY, VERY GOOD NEWS.
DR. MELANIE SWIFT, THANKS VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> BACK AT THE STATE CAPITOL, GOVERNOR TONY EVERS DID AS PROMISED AND VETOED THE MAPS REPUBLICANS PASSED IN THE LATEST ROUND OF REDISTRICTING.
IN HIS VETO MESSAGE, HE CALLED THE MAPS, "GERRYMANDERING 2.0."
THEY WOULD MAINTAIN BOUNDARIES WHICH SAW REPUBLICAN MAJORITIES FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS.
THE MAPS WILL HAVE TO BE SORTED OUT IN COURT AHEAD OF THE 2022 ELECTIONS.
WE LEARN THIS WEEK THAT THE STATE SUPREME COURT PLANS TO WEIGH IN ON THE DISPUTE OVER THE MAPS.
THTHEY HAVE SET ASIDE A TENTATIE HEARING DATE IN JANUARY.
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR REBECCA KLEEFISCH IS ASKING THE HIGH COURT TO TAKE UP HER LAWSUIT AGAINST WISCONSIN ELECTION COMMISSIONERS.
THE SUIT ASKS THE COURT TO DECLARE ILLEGAL THE WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION GUIDANCE ALLOWING BALLOT DROP BOXES, NURSING HOME POLL WORKERS AND CONSOLIDATED POLLING PLACES.
THE JUSTICES LAST YEAR SAID CHALLENGES TO VOTING PRACTICES SHOULD BE MADE BEFORE ELECTIONS, NOT AFTER.
THE COURT HAS NOT YET RULED WHETHER TO TAKE THE CASE.
LOOKING AHEAD TO NEXT YEAR'S ELECTIONS, THE OPEN SEAT IN THE 3rd CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN WESTERN WISCONSIN IS EXPECTED TO BE A NAIL-BITER.
IT'S A DISTRICT THAT INCUMBENT AND RETIRING DEMOCRATIC RON KIND NARROWLY WON.
THE FIELD IS FILLING UP FOR DEMOCRATS LOOKING TO REPLACE KIND.
LAST MONTH WE INTERVIEWED BRAD PFAFF.
TONIGHT WE HEAR FROM REBECCA COOKE, A BOARD MEMBER OF WEDC.
GOVERNOR TONY EVERS APPOINTED COOKE TO THAT POSITION IN 2019.
SHE ALSO OWNS A HOME GOODS STORE IN EAU CLAIRE AND FOUNDED A NONPROFIT GRANT PROGRAM FOR WOMEN ENTREPRENEURS IN WESTERN WISCONSIN.
REBECCA COOKE JOINS US NOW FROM EAU CLAIRE.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> SO WHY DO YOU WANT TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THE 3rd IN WASHINGTON?
>> YEAH.
YOU KNOW, I'M A DOER.
I'VE PROVEN THAT TIME AND AGAIN AT THE GRASSROOTS LEVEL IN MY HOMETOWN THROUGH SUPPORTING WOMEN ENTREPRENEURS AND ADVOCATING FOR FOLKS I MET ACROSS THE KITCHEN TABLE AND THE BOARDROOM.
CAREER POLITICIANS HAVE LEFT US BEHIND.
WASHINGTON CAN'T SOLVE EVERYTHING.
I THINK WE HERE IN WEST CENTRAL WISCONSIN HAVE THE SMARTS AND COMMON SENSE TO SOLVE A LOT OF THESE CHALLENGES.
I'LL TAKE THE VALUES I LEARNED GROWING UP ON A DAIRY FARM NOT TO GIVE UP WHEN TIMES ARE TOUGH AND FIGHT FOR OUR VALUES IN THE HALLS OF CONGRESS.
>> SO YOU'VE JUST TOUCHED ON THIS, BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO FIND YOUR SEAT AT THE TABLE AS A POLITICAL NEWCOMER.
>> RIGHT.
>> THIS STRIKES YOU AS A POSITIVE.
>> YEAH.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DUE FOR FRESH LEADERSHIP AND I THINK FRESH FACES.
I MIGHT BE NEW TO RUNNING FOR POLITICAL OFFICE, BUT I'M NOT NEW TO SERVING MY COMMUNITY.
I'VE BEEN DOING THAT IN THE WORK THAT I'VE BEEN DOING AT THE GRASSROOTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEVEL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND SO I THINK -- I THINK THAT WE'RE TIRED OF KIND OF THE SAME OLD CAREER POLITICIAN POLITICS THAT WE'VE SEEN AND WANT TO SEE A CONGRESS THAT'S MORE REFLECTIVE OF EVERYDAY AMERICA AND FOLKS STEPPING OFF THE SIDELINES TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY.
>> WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IN YOUR DISTRICT?
>> SURE.
YOU KNOW, THIS CAMPAIGN IS GOING TO BE RUN ON A LOT OF KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES, THINGS THAT EVERYDAY WISCONSINITES CARE ABOUT, HAVING ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE, ENSURING OUR STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO THE RESOURCE NORESOURCES IN THE CLAY NEED TO THRIVE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER.
BROADBAND, HAVING CONNECTIVITY TO MARKETPLACES AND FROM A TELEHEALTH PERSPECTIVE.
SO KIDS AREN'T DOING THEIR HOMEWORK IN A McDONALDS PARKING LOT.
THERE'S A LOT OF PROMISE IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK THE OTHER PIECE IS JOB CREATION AND HAVING -- BUILDING A SUSTAINABLE ECONOMY IN THE DISTRICT AND HAVING EMPLOYERS THAT WANT TO INVEST IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF WORKERS HERE.
>> THE ANNOUNCED AND TRUMP-ENDORSED REPUBLICAN IN THIS RACE CAME CLOSE TO BEATING THE INCUMBENT IN THE LAST ELECTION.
WHAT KIND OF HEADWINDS DOES THAT POSE FOR YOU IN A DISTRICT TRENDING RIGHT?
>> WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS BRING IT BACK HOME IN TERMS OF CONNECTING WITH FOLKS IN RURAL COMMUNITIES.
YOU SAW MORE FOLKS COMING OUT FOR TRUMP BECAUSE TRUMP WAS SHOWING UP IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
I THINK AS DEMOCRATS WE NEED TO BE CONNECTING WITH FOLKS NOT JUST WHEN IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR AND WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT, BUT ALL THE TIME.
IT'S A DISTRICT THAT IS STARTING TO STEER MORE RIGHT AND WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO VALUES THAT ARE CENTRAL TO THE WAY WE LIVE OUR EVERYDAY LIVES HERE IN WISCONSIN.
SO I THINK RUNNING A CAMPAIGN THAT'S VERY VALUE-CENTRIC IN A BIG TENT THAT OPENS EVERYBODY FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE IS WHAT I INTEND TO DO.
>> THE PRESIDENT JUST SIGNED THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL AND NOW THE SOCIAL PART IS MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH CONGRESS.
WHAT IS YOUR LEVEL OF SUPPORT FOR THESE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF SPENDING?
>> YOU KNOW, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, HELPS WORKING FAMILIES IN OUR REGION OUT, YOU KNOW, FROM MEDICARE EXPANSION TO PAID LEAVE, EASING THE BURDEN OF CHILD CARE AND PRE-K FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.
I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR ANYTHING THAT EASES THE BURDEN OF WHAT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN LIKE FOR WORKING FAMILIES IN OUR REGION.
>> ALL RIGHT.
REBECCA COOKE, WE LEAVE IT THERE.
THANKS VERY MUCH.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
>> YEAH.
THANK YOU.
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Clip: S2000 Ep2021 | 5m 3s | Rebecca Cooke on her Democratic primary run for Wisconsin's 3rd District seat. (5m 3s)
Kenosha After the Rittenhouse Verdict
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Clip: S2000 Ep2021 | 4m 46s | Marisa Wojcik on reactions to the not guilty verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. (4m 46s)
Kleefisch Asks State Supreme Court to Take Up Elections Suit
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A Report on Madison Police Use of Force During Protests
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Clip: S2000 Ep2021 | 1m 16s | A report issues recommendations on Madison police use of force during 2020 protests. (1m 16s)
A Second Pandemic Thanksgiving
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Clip: S2000 Ep2021 | 6m 26s | Dr. Melanie Swift on COVID-19 boosters and another holiday season in the pandemic. (6m 26s)
Speaker's Racial Disparities Task Force Issues Final Report
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Clip: S2000 Ep2021 | 33s | The Speaker's Task Force issued its report on educational and economic racial disparities. (33s)
What's Next After the Rittenhouse Trial?
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Clip: S2000 Ep2021 | 5m 37s | Angela Lang on lessons from the not guilty verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. (5m 37s)
Noon Wednesday: Unhoused and Underfunded
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Clip: S2000 Ep2021 | 18m 21s | Wisconsin Coalition Against Homelessness executive director Joe Volk on issues and policy. (18m 21s)
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