Congressional leaders are returnin after spending the afternoon negotiating# with Preside at stake, funding for Ukraine, Israel,# and additional border security measures.

AMNA NAWAZ: This as Congress faces a separate## funding deadline Friday and# potential go Lisa Desjardins is here to help us understand# what is standing in the way of a Lisa, good to see you.

So, this Whi who is in the room, and are they making progress?

LISA DESJARDINS: This was all the heavyweights# on Capitol Hil each chamber, McConnell, Schumer, Jeffries,# and Speaker Johnson, but also al l the relevant committees.

So these are# the heavy hitters all together in the room.

And I want to just remind people of the# simple problem here.

One, Ukraine, our allie now been at war for almost two years, and if we do# not continue funding them, they will have serious## ammo and weapons issues at some point.

They're# saying that is coming sooner, rather than later.

At the same time, our own Southwest border# has been overwhelmed in past weeks and months.## And many people on Capitol Hill, not just# Republicans, are saying we need to do more.

Now, while leaders came out of the meeting# generally positive, saying that they all## agree that both of these things have to be done,# when you listen to sound from th and also from after the meeting today, you can# see that the key differences here still remain.

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): At stake# is the security of our country,## the survival of our friends in Ukraine,# the safe and nothing less, nothing less than# the future of Western democracy.

REP. MIKE JOHNSON (R-LA): We understand that all# these things are important, but we must insist,## we must insist that the border be the top# priority.

I think we have some consen that table.

Everyone understands the urgency of# that.

And we're going to continue to press for it.

LISA DESJARDINS: The problem is what House# Republicans, including right now Speaker Johnson,## want to do with the border is different# than what's going on in th However, those Senate talks, we have been# looking at them day after day after day, over border security still continue.

I# talked to one of the senators Ch ris Murphy.

He said they're almost there.# They're getting closer and closer.

But he acknowledges this continues to happen.# Senator Schumer says he thinks that## they have a good chance of getting a deal# next week, perhaps on the Senate floor.

But, by that, he said that's greater than# 50 percent chance.

So we're not sure.

AMNA NAWAZ: In the meantime, we are# now just two days away from a potential## partial government shutdown.# Where do things stand on that?

LISA DESJARDINS: Always cautious# with these things, but, right now,## the temperatures in the House and Senate# fo r short-term spending that would# kick funding basically into March.

We have to watch and see the voting, but I think# the Senate could move as soon as p or tomorrow even on these deals.

Now, since# things, they're going OK, I want to reflect## on how we got here.

We don't always just# look at what the problem is in the Capitol.

They are trying to pass 12 different# appropriations bills.

So what happened is,## the Senate has been passing bipartisan# bills, 12 of them out of committee,## which really was quite an achievement.

The House,## however, their committee bills were partisan,# on ly managed to pass 10 out of committee,# couldn't even get all of them done there.

Now, both chambers had problems getting# all of those bills out of the chambers## altogether.

The result is that we have not had# any spending bills pass Congress this year.

Now,## this has happened for many, many years, but# I think we just assume that they can't get## it done.

And that's why I wanted to# look at exactly what's happened here.

The Senate was able to pass some# bipartisan spending bills ea this year, but the partisanship# overall shut that process down.

AMNA NAWAZ: There's another issue I# know you have been tracking, which is,## they're talking about a potential# some for businesses, some for struggling# families.

Where does that stand?

LISA DESJARDINS: This is a massive deal.

This# would be e ultimately meaning more money especially# for lower-income families.

Millions of## kids would benefit.

This was a huge poverty# reduction effort, also would be good for many## businesses.

Maybe 20 million jobs or so# could be affected by these tax credits.

Now, there were two prime negotiators# on this, the Ways and Means chairman,## Jason Smith, on the House side, Republican, and# Ron Wyden of the Finance Committee been working on this for months.

They# say they have got this ready to go.

And## my sources say that the House committee# could pass this out as soon as Maybe it gets to the House floor next# week.

Even though there are so have questions about this deal, right now, it# feels like it is moving along.

And we're go to have to talk about what it means, because# it would be a big bipartisan accomplishment.

AMNA NAWAZ: It would be a big deal, indeed.

Lisa Desjardins, tha LISA DESJARDINS: You're welcome.