
How the border deal would transform U.S. immigration
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How the bipartisan border deal would transform the U.S. immigration system
The most significant immigration reform proposal in a generation is now in the hands of the Senate. The bipartisan deal would tighten asylum rules and allow for partial border shutdowns while increasing enforcement and opening some new avenues for legal migration. The measure would also offer billions in aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. Congressional correspondent Lisa Desjardins reports.
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How the border deal would transform U.S. immigration
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The most significant immigration reform proposal in a generation is now in the hands of the Senate. The bipartisan deal would tighten asylum rules and allow for partial border shutdowns while increasing enforcement and opening some new avenues for legal migration. The measure would also offer billions in aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. Congressional correspondent Lisa Desjardins reports.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipThe most significant ha nds of the U.S. Senate, after negotiators# unveiled their compromise deal.
The bipartisan## deal would tighten asylum rules and# allow for partial border shutdowns,## while increasing enforcement and opening# some new avenues for legal migration.
GEOFF BENNETT: The measure would also offer# billions of dollars in assistance to Ukraine,## Israel, and Taiwan for the defense# of their respective borders.
Congressional correspondent Lisa# Desjardins has been digging into## the bill text and the immediate reactions to it.
Lisa, it's good to see you.
So, this i because I know you read through the# entire thing.
What are the highlights?
LISA DESJARDINS: OK, lots to talk about here.
And I want to help people very big policy, especially on asylum,# and then also big dollars when it comes to security here and abroad.
So let's# look at the overview of what's in here.
First of all, let's talk about that# immigration policy.
There is an## overhaul especially of the asylum# system.
And then it ICE detention in general.
It would also# allow for border closures of some sorts,## meaning a stop in processing of asylum# claims under certain circumstances.
Now, as for that national security# and international security piece,## $60 billion for Ukraine, $14 billion for# Israel.
An other dollars in here, it adds# up to over $115 billion.
And## that kind of money is essentially what# President Biden initially requested.
So, really, the focus here at this# moment is on that immigration policy## part.
The senators who negotiated# this say it was extraordinary they## were even able to get to this point.
But# they now have critics from both sides,## and they are stressing to them that they# see this as a once-in-a-generation bill.
SEN. KYRSTEN SINEMA (I-AZ): And this# week, the Senate will begin to take## action a large national security# pa pragmatic, and the strongest solution# to our border crisis in my lifetime.
SEN. JAMES LANKFORD (R-OK): Are we# as Republicans going to have press## conferences and complain the border's# op en after the worst month in# American history in December?
LISA DESJARDINS: Those are two of the senators,# along with a third, Democrat Chris Murphy of## Connecticut.
Those three senators are the ones# who have been behind closed doors weekends nights for the past few months to negotiate this# out, also with the Biden team on board this.
But now they have to convince# 60 senators.
And right now,## by my count, there's just 12, with most# senators not saying ho GEOFF BENNETT: And we should say that Amna is# set to speak with Senator Murphy m President Biden, back when he# was trying to salvage this deal,## he said that he would shut the# border down using the authorit granted to the president in the# bill.
How would that work LI SA DESJARDINS: This gets complex.
But## think about the That huge group of people that have been# massin many of them have crossed the border through# our asylum policy, which has meant that because## of a lack of detention space and the way# our asylum policy works, they have entered## the country almost automatically and waited# processing sometimes for years, in theory.
So what this bill has done to try# and address that is a few things## with this shutting down the border# concept.
Let me explain this.
This## would be a new authority that would be# given to DHS.
And under this DH S could immediately deport most of the migrants# that were encountered at the border, as opposed to now, when those migrants are generally# allowed in the country to await processing.
Now, this would go into effect optionally for# the DHS secretary at 4,000 migrants a day,## when we hit that average level.
It would# be mandatory at 5,000 migrants a day.
Now,## some conservatives have a big# problem with those numbers,## but that is much lower than the numbers# that we saw Also, I want to mention that that is a# policy closure of the border.
Of course,## the border, there's still open land there.
This## does allow a DHS secretary to continue# GEOFF BENNETT: And reading# through the legislation, Lisa,## what's clear is that it really dr Tell us more about that.
LISA DESJARDIN really believe me when I said what was# in this in terms So let's go through that, first of all, the# asylum proposals in here.
There to ugher standard for people to enter# the country in that first screening.## The standard would move to clear and# convincing.
Right now, it's just you## have to show a significant possibility# to prove that you have b Now, a fraction of the people would pass that# screening, a very small fraction.
Most w probably be denied and put into removal processing# and for deportation.
Now, here's a big change.## Right now, immigration judges are making most of# these decisions.
It would take the immigration## judge completely out of the asylum process.
And,# instead, asylum officers would make that decisi It's not even clear there would be a full# interview.
We're not sure that lawyers would## be present, though those applying could get# a lawyer if they wanted.
But th is whole goal from this system is to do# all of this in 180 days the entire process.
Now, while some on the left like that# shortened process for asylum seekers,## some of them are highly critical, saying this# is so limiting to asylum that it means very few## people who really are fleeing persecution# would make it through.
There's one voice.
GEOFF BENNETT: There's pushback# -- I'm sorry, go ahead.
LISA DESJARDINS: Yes.
This is Andr ANDREA FLORES, FWD.US: ... goal to reduce# the amou claim.
Unfortunately, this bill really# goes overboard in making to get an already hard benefit.
So, it's# adding a new asylum bar that would impact## many of the people who otherwise might# be able to be qualify for protection.
LISA DESJARDINS: So, that's a concern,# that this is just really limiting and## maybe a human rights concern from the left.# The senators who GEOFF BENNETT: Well, I was going to say there's# pushback from the left and, of course pushback from the right.
What's interesting, the today and said they support this legislation,# says it has desperately needed reforms.
Why are Republicans on the Hill, why are# they opposed to it?
What are they saying?
LISA DESJARDINS: And at least# one Border Patrol organization.
They say that, while they do like# the increase they think this actually does not end that thing# called catch-and-release, that while many through this system would be given sort of what's# called an alternative to detention, they would be## having ankle bracelets,some say that's not enough# and that this would leave people in this count able to kind of at will move around, which is# something that the conservatives don't like,## but which Democrats say there's not proof# that that's been a significant problem.
I talked to Chad Wolf, who's a former# secretary of homeland security.
CHAD WOLF, Former Acting U.S. Secretary# of Homeland Security: I don't think it## en Well, they only have 50,000 beds.# And I can guarantee you there is## a lot more single adults coming across that border## that need to be apprehended before# they can be removed than 50, LISA DESJARDINS: Conservatives also# wanted some things that were not in## here.
They wanted more limits on# humani for the Biden White House that there are# no limits on that right And in addition to that, expedited# removal, kind of fast-track deportations,## conservatives wanted more of that.# And that also is not in this bill.
GEOFF BENNETT: So in the 30 seconds we have# left, Lisa, where is all of this h LISA DESJARDINS: Right.
It's tricky.
We expect a vote on this in the Senate on# I talked about are moving hard to try and get# those votes.
It is uphill, even in the Senate,## which is amazing, because this is the most# conservative immigration legislation we have## seen in decades.
But they're having trouble with# Republicans, namely, House Speaker Mike Johnson.
He doesn't have a Senate vote,# of course, but he has influence.## Here's what he tweeted out.
He said:# "Thi than we expected.
If this bill reaches# the House, it will be dead on arrival.
The hope from senators behind this# is that they can turn that around## by getting a big Senate vote.
Right now,# it looks pretty rough.
we know there's political influence# here from Donald Trump and others.
GEOFF BENNETT: Indeed.
LISA DESJARDINS: You're welcome.
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