>> Ted: COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, WE'LL TALK ABOUT MARICOPA COUNTY'S ANNUAL POINT-IN-TIME HOMELESSNESS COUNT.

A LOCAL HOSPITAL COMPLETES ITS 100 SUCCESSFUL HEART TRANSPLANT.

>>> WE'LL MEET A LONG-TIME DISNEY AN MATER USING HIS ART TO BRING HIS CHILDREN'S BOOK TO FILM.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE ARE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> THIS HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS IS MADE POSSIBLE BY FRIENDS OF PBS, MEMBERS OF YOUR PBS STATION, THANK YOU.

>> Ted: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

GILBERT MAYOR ANNOUNCED SHE'S NOT RUNNING FOR REELECTION ACCORDING TO THE "DAILY INDEPENDENT DISTINCTION THAT SHE WILL NOT SEEK A SECOND TERM TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH HER FAMILY.

IT'S AMID INCREASING CRITICISM THAT GILBERT OFFICIALS HANDLED ATTACKS ON TERES BY TEENAGERS CALLING CALLING THEMSELVES THE "GILBERT GOONS."

>>> A TRUMP SPOKESPERSON SAID TRUMP CANCELED DUE TO A COURT APPEARANCE.

THE GOP CANCELED THE EVENT AND THIS COMES THE DAY AFTER CHAIR JEFF DEWIT RESIGNED OVER A LEAKED AUDIO RECORDING IN WHICH THEY TRIED TO GET KARI LAKE NOT TO RUN FOR SENATE.

THAT WAS RECORDED BY LAKE TEN MONTHS AGO AND LEAKED EARLIER THIS WEEK.

>>> ENCOURAGING ECONOMIC NEWS, THE U.S. ECONOMY GREW AT A 3.3% LAST QUARTER AND THEY REPORT THE FOUR QUARTER GROWTH WAS DOWN FROM THE PREVIOUS QUARTER AND GDP WAS HIGHER THAN ECONOMISTS ANTICIPATED AS THE ECONOMY RECOVERS FROM THE DISRUPTION.

>>> INFLATION CONTINUES TO COOL.

IT WAS AT 1.7% FOR THE FINE THREEFINALTHREE MONTHS AND BELOW 2%.

>>> SHARES OF TESLA DROPPED AS MUCH AS 11% AFTER THE STOCK MARKET OPENED TODAY EQUATING TO $73 BILLION WIPED OUT IN ONE DAY.

IT CALM AFTER LACKLUSTER REPORTER AND WARNED THE SALE REPORT WAS SLOWER DUE TO INCREASED COMPETITION IN NORTH AMERICA, EUROPE AND CHINA.

>>> MANY PARENTS ARE STILL SUPPORTING THEIR NOW ADULT CHILDREN SURVEY FOUND ABOUT A THIRD OF YOUNG ADULTS AGE 18 TO 34 ARE STILL LIVING WITH A PARENT WITH STUDENT LOAN DEBTS AND THE STUDY FOUND TODAY'S YOUNG ADULTS ARE LIKELY TO HAVE COLLEGE DEGREES AND MORE INFLATION ADJUSTED INCOME THAN THEIR PARENTS DID 30 YEARS AGO.

>>> NEW RESEARCH SHOWS THAT MIGRAINES CAN BE PREDICTED AND THAT TWO THINGS ARE KEY TO FORECASTING AN ATTACK.

A DATA INDICATES THOSE WHO EXPERIENCE CHANGES IN SLEEP QUALITY AND A FEELING OF LOW ENERGY ON ONE DAY WERE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE MIGRAINES THE NEXT DAY.

THE STUDY WAS PUBLISHED IN THE JOURNAL OF NEUROLOGY.

CHRONIC MIGRAINES ARE THE LEADING CAUSE OF DISABILITY IN PEOPLE YOUNGER THAN 50.

>>> THE ANNUAL POINT-IN-TIME COUNT OF HOMELESSNESS IN MARICOPA COUNTY, AND HOW BEST TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM BY FINDING OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN SHELTERS AND OUT ON THE STREETS.

WE WELCOME VICKI PHILLIPS, THE COCHAIR OF THE MARICOPA CARE BOARD.

WELCOME TO ARIZONA MILES PER HOUR.

HORIZON.

GIVE ME A DEFINITION.

>> IT'S A DOWN AND SURVEY OF FAMILIES EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

>> Ted: HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE UNHOUSED AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT ONLY OUT ON THE STREETS BUT IN SHELTERS, AS WELL?

>> THAT'S CORRECT, COMPRISES BOTH POPULATIONS.

>> Ted: WHO DOES THE COUNTING AND HOW MANY PEOPLE?

>> WE HAD HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS AND ENCOMPASSES CITY, STATE, COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY ARE ASSIGNED GEOGRAPHIC GRIDS AND CONDUCT A SURVEY.

>> Ted: WE SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE AND PRETTY FAMOUS PEOPLE OUT THERE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Ted: DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE IN A CERTAIN SPOT AND HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> EACH TEAM IS ASSIGNED A GEOGRAPHIC GRID IN WHICH YOU COVER THAT GRID AND GO OUT AND, YOU KNOW, COMB STREET CORNERS, BUILDINGS, RIVER BOTTOMS, WHATEVER YOUR GEOGRAPHIC LIKE AND TRY TO IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

>> Ted: WHEN YOU HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THEM, WHAT IS DISCUSSED?

>> I THINK WE GATHER BASIC DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION ON THEM AND WANT TO KNOW WHERE THEY SLEPT THE NIGHT BEFORE.

WE MAY ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO HOMELESSNESS AND HELPS US TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE EARNING.

>> Ted: CONSIDERING THE FLUID NATURE OF THIS, THESE ARE PEOPLE WITHOUT HOMES AND IS THERE -- HAVE PEOPLE BEEN COUNTED TWICE AND DOES THAT HAPPEN OFTEN?

>> THE REASON THE DATA IS GATHERED IN APRIL IS BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY CHECK THE ACCURACY OF THE DATA.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO DUPLICATION THAT OCCURS.

>> Ted: THE COUNT WAS CONDUCTED THIS PAST TUESDAY, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> Ted: IT WAS RAINING ON TUESDAY AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE PROCESS?

>> IT CAN IMPACT.

TYPICALLY WE'LL SEE INDIVIDUALS ON MORE VISIBLE AND OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

WHEN IT'S RAINING, YOU MAY SEE THEM HUDDLED UP AT CONVENIENCE STORES OR TAKING SHELTER AND IT'S MORE CHALLENGING TO FIND THEM.

>> Ted: I WOULD IMAGINE THE SHELTERED NUMBER WOULD BE HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR.

>> CORRECT.

YOU MAY SEE AN INCREASE IN SHELTERED.

>> Ted: THE RESULTS, MOSTLY MALE AND WHITE AND AGED 25 TO 64, THOSE SEEM TO BE THE TRENDS THERE AND ARE YOU EXPECTING ANYTHING DIFFERENT?

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S STILL TOO EARLY TO TELL.

I WILL SAY SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE DID RECEIVE FROM INDIVIDUALS IS THAT WE WERE SEEING AN OLDER DEMOGRAPHIC.

SO I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT WHAT THE ACTUAL RESULTS REVEAL.

>> Ted: OLDER DEM GRAPH ISSUE, DEMOGRAPHIC MAY BE SHELTERED THAN UNSHELTERED AND AN UPTICK.

>> YES.

>> Ted: AND MOSTLY WHITE?

>> THAT'S THE DEAF DEMOGRAPHIC AND DATA AS A WHOLE.

>> Ted: ETHNICITY, HISPANIC AND 35% AND EXPECTING ANYTHING DIFFERENT?

>> I THINK WE MAY SEE SIMILAR PATTERNS AS LAST YEAR'S.

>> Ted: WHAT IS LEARNED FROM THE INTERVIEW, FROM THE PROCESS?

>> I THINK WHAT'S LEARNED FROM THE INTERVIEWS ARE REALLY THE FACTORS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO HOMELESSNESS.

IT COULD BE FINANCIAL.

IT COULD BE FAMILIAL AND INCREASED RENTS AND MORTGAGES.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE FIND.

>> Ted: I WOULD IMAGINE HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING AND THE HOUSING AFFORD ABILITYABILITY AND THAT HAS TO AFFECT THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AFFORDABLE RENTS ARE CHALLENGING RIGHT NOW AND I THINK THAT'S A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR.

>> Ted: YOU GET THE INFORMATION AND YOU SAY APRIL AND EVERYTHING CURATES EVERYTHING?

>> YES.

>> Ted: WHAT IS DONE WITH THIS?

>> THE INFORMATION IDENTIFIES ANY TRENDS OR PATTERNS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND HELPS US BETTER ALLOCATE OR RESOURCES.

DO WE NEED MORE TEMPORARY HOUSING OR SHELTER.

IT HELPS US TO STRATEGIZE.

>> Ted: AND AGAIN, FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WORKING AND MAY NOT BE WORKING.

IS IT POSSIBLE A CERTAIN REGION SEES SOURCES GO DOWN BECAUSE OF SOME SORT OF PROGRAM?

>> IT IS POSSIBLE AND THOSE ARE THINGS THROUGH THE TRENDS WE CAN IDENTIFY.

THERE IS ALSO ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND DATA POINTS THAT WE LOOK AT AS A COMMUNITY THAT HELPS TO IDENTIFY THOSE PATTERNS.

>> Ted: AND AGAIN, YOU DO IT IN THIS TIME OF YEAR BECAUSE?

>> I THINK IT'S JUST THE NATIONAL COUNT.

I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

>> Ted: I WOULD IMAGINE THE NUMBERS WOULD BE DIFFERENT NOW THAN THE DEAD OF SUMMER.

>> YES.

>> Ted: AND CHANGES ALL OF THE TIME, I WOULD DJINN.

>> Ted: MARICOPA CONTINUUM OF CARE BOARD?

>> THAT'S A GROUP OF PARTNERS AND PROVIDERS THAT COME TOGETHER TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES AROUND HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

>> Ted: VERY GOOD AND FOUR SHARING THE INFORMATION.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> Ted: UP NEXT ON ARIZONA NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, A HOSPITAL COMPLETES ITS 100th HEART TRANSPLANT.

>> WE PLEDGE OR LIVES AND FORTUNES.

>> REVOLUTION.

>> CHOOSING SIDE MEANS CHOOSING FAITH.

>> FRANKLIN HAD TO CONVINCE ONE MONARCH TO HELP THE AMERICANS OVERTHROW ANOTHER MONARCH.

>> AS THE FIRST DEBATE IN AMERICAN HISTORY ON SLAVERY.

>> DON'T MISS THE CONCLUSION OF "BENJAMIN FRANKLIN."

>> FRIDAY NIGHT AT 8:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> NEXT TIME ON "FATHER BROWN."

>> A PRICILY THING.

>> THEY WORN THE CHURCH OF THE NEXT TARGET.

SO FATHER BROWN SETS A TRAP TO CATCH HIM, BUT SOLVING THIS CASE WILL PROVE COSTLY.

"FATHER BROWN."

>> SATURDAY NIGHT AT 7:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

♪♪ >> NEXT TIME ON DEATH IN PARADISE.

>> HE WAS MURDERED IN HIS CELL.

>> A MAN AWAITING TRIAL IS SHOT TO DEATH.

>> JP HAS A PROBLEM WITH DWAYNE.

>> I DON'T THINK OUR WORKING METHODS ARE COMPATIBLE.

>> AND HUMPHRIES FATHER PAYS A VISIT.

"DEATH IN PARADISE."

>> SATURDAY NIGHT AT 8:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> Ted: BANNER UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER OF PHOENIX RECENTLY CONDUCTED THE 100th 100th SUCCESSFUL HEART TRANSPLANT.

IT'S THE ONLY HOSPITAL WITH A COMPREHENSIVE HEART FAILURE CENTER.

JOINING US NOW IS DR. FRANCISCO ARABIA AND COLIN JUDD WHO UNDERWENT A SUCCESSFUL TRANSPLANT.

YOU STARTED THIS PROGRAM, WHAT, IN 2020?

>> YES, FEBRUARY OF 2020, FOUR YEARS NEXT MONTH.

>> Ted: 100 NOW HUNDRED?

>> 109.

>> Ted: SO IT KEEPS GOING.

THE HEART FAILURE PROGRAM AND DEFINE "HEART FAILURE."

>> THE INABILITY OF THE HEART TO PROVIDE OXYGEN AND NUTRIENTS TO THE BODY.

>> Ted: AND THE SYMPTOMS ARE?

>> SHORTNESS OF BREATH, FATIGUE, EDEMA, SWELLING, PAL PA PALPITATIONS.

>> Ted: AND YOUR PROGRAM, YOU USE ARTIFICIAL HEARTS AS WHAT, LIKE A BRIDGE?

HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

WHEN WE HAVE A PATIENT WHO IS DETERIORATING AND THERE'S NO HEART AVAILABLE BECAUSE OF SIZE, BLOOD TYPE, WEIGHT AND THEY'RE DETERIORATING AND THEY DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH TIME, WE HAVE TO BRIDGE THEM UNTIL THE HEART IS AVAILABLE AND THAT'S WHEN WE USE AN ARTIFICIAL HEART.

>> Ted: ARE THERE CIRCULATORY THINGS OUT THERE?

>> YES, DEVICES THAT WE USE QUITE A BIT, BUT ARTIFICIAL HEARTS ARE USED WHEN THE ENTIRE HEART IS FAILING.

>> Ted: THAT BRINGS US TO COLIN.

WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM AND CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: TELL US YOUR STORY.

WHEN DID THE SYMPTOM SYMPTOMS APPEAR?

>> I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD A HEART PROBLEM AND DIDN'T KNOW THE SYMPTOMS.

I STARTED EXHIBITING THEM IN MAY OF LAST YEAR.

I GOT TO THE POINT I COULDN'T WALK TEN FEET WITHOUT HAVING TO SIT DOWN AND TAKE A BREAK.

I WAS WORKING AS A LIGHT RAIL OPERATOR AND IT WAS DIFFICULT TO DO MY WORK EVERY DAY AND WALKING TO MY TRAIN, I WAS OUT OF BREATH AND HARD TO DO ANYTHING.

I FINALLY LOST MY JOB AND IN AUGUST, I CHECKED INTO THE HOSPITAL AND HONESTLY, I THOUGHT I WAS HAVING A LUNG PROBLEM AND MAYBE I GOT A COLD OR A FLU BUG AND COULDN'T SHAKE IT AND THEY JUST SENT ME HOME AND TOLD ME TO SEE MY PRIMARY DOCTOR.

WHEN I TOLD THEM I HAVE SHORTNESS OF BREATH, THEY IMMEDIATELY TOOK ME BACK FOR AN EKG AND DIDN'T LIKE SOMETHING THEY SAW.

THEY TOOK ME RIGHT IN.

I SAW A CARDIOLOGIST THE WEEK BEFORE AND GOTTEN SOME TESTS.

WE HADN'T GONE OVER THEM YET.

SO THEY HAD ACCESS AND THEY SAID YOUR HEART IS OPERATING AT 15%.

>> Ted: 15%?

>> YES.

AND I'VE HEARD STORIES THAT ARE PEOPLE WITH WORSE AND SO THEY ADMITTED ME RIGHT AWAY, GOT ME FROM BANNER UNIVERSITY AND THEY RIGHT AWAY SAID THE UNIVERSITY IS WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.

I WAS THERE FOR THE REST OF 63 DAYS.

>> Ted: MY GOODNESS.

SO THE DONOR HEART, HOW LONG DID IT TAKE BEFORE THAT WAS AVAILABLE?

>> I WAS LISTED FOR THE TRANSPLANT ON THE 25th OF AUGUST AND I RECEIVED THE TRAN PLANTTRANSPLANT ON THE 24th OF SEPTEMBER.

SO ABOUT A MONTH.

>> Ted: DOCTOR, IS THIS STORY SOMEWHAT TYPICAL?

>> HE WAS FORTUNATE BECAUSE HE ONLY HAD TO WAIT A MONTH.

SOME PATIENTS HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR OR SO.

>> Ted: YOU HAD THE OPERATION AND SURGERY AND WAS THIS GOING SO FAST THAT YOU DIDN'T REALLY HAVE TIME TO GET ALL WORRIED ABOUT IT?

OR WERE YOU ALL WORRIED ABOUT IT?

>> I WOULD SAY I WAS WORRIED AT TIMES, A LITTLE BIT SCARED, BUT THE STAFF THERE AT BANNER UNIVERSITY, THEY ARE SO GOOD.

IF YOU HAD ANYTHING YOU WERE CONCERNED OF, THEY WALKED YOU THROUGH EVERYTHING AND SPENT TIME EXPLAINING TO ME THAT THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN DURING YOUR TRANSPLANT AND TOLD ME THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS AND MAYBE I WOULD BE BETTER OFF NOT.

>> Ted: BUT YOU WERE DISCHARGED WHAT, TWO WEEKS LATER?

>> YES.

>> Ted: DOCTOR, IS THAT TYPICAL?

>> YES.

USUALLY IT'S AROUND TWO TO THREE WEEKS IN THE HOSPITAL.

>> Ted: THIS IS FASCINATING STUFF.

HOW ARE YOU DOING RIGHT NOW, COLIN?

HOW ARE YOU FEELING?

>> GREAT.

EVERY DAY GETTING STRONGER AND BETTER AND ALL OF THE FOLKS AT BANNER UNIVERSITY TO THANK FOR THEM.

ALL OF THE DOCTORS AND NURSES AND I HAVE ALL OF THEM TO THANK FOR ME BEING HERE TO TALK TO YOU TODAY.

>> Ted: IT MUST BE LIKE A NEW LEASE ON LIFE.

>> MY WIFE AND I ARE ADOPTING A LITTLE GIRL AND ONE OF THE DOCTORS TOLD MY WIFE, I DIDN'T HAVE 48 HOURS LEFT IN THAT HOUR AND I WAS WITHIN TWO DAYS OF NEVER GETTING TO CELEBRATE ANOTHER WEDDING ANNIVERSARY OR CHRISTMAS.

>> Ted: DOCTOR, IT MUST BE REWARDING AND THIS CHANGING LIVES.

I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN A HEART TRANSPLANT WOULD PUT YOU ON THE COVER OF "TIME" MAG.

MAGAZINE.

HOW MUCH BETTER CAN THIS GET?

>> PROBABLY NOT MUCH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT ANOTHER DONORS FOR THE NUMBERS WE HAVE LISTED FOR TRANSPLANT.

WE HAVE 2500 PERFORMED A YEAR IF THE U.S. AND ABOUT SIX THOUSAND PEOPLE WAITING IN A YEAR.

SO THINGS THAT MEETING COMING, VENTRICULAR DEVICES AND WE'RE TALKING MORE AND MORE ABOUT TRANSPLANTATION, WHICH IS YOU SEEING THE ORGANS FROM ANOTHER SPECIES.

FOR EXAMPLE, LAST YEAR, WE HAD THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL PIG-TO-HUMAN TRANSPLANT.

AND THAT'S STILL FIVE TO TEN YEARS AWAY AT BEST.

>> Ted: YOU MENTIONED OTHER ORGANS AND THIS TECHNOLOGY, THE RESEARCH, THE MEDICINE INVOLVED IN HEART TRANSPLANT, CAN THAT GO TO KIDNEYS?

>> YES, LIVER, LUNGS AND SO ON.

THEY USE THE SAME MEDICATIONS.

IT'S DIFFERENT LEVELS.

>> Ted: IF THAT SENSE, THERE COULD BE ADVANCES?

>> YES.

>> Ted: WHAT DO YOU THINK, COLIN?

OBVIOUSLY, AN ADOPTION AND THAT'S FANTASTIC AND YOU HAVE A WHOLE LIFE TO PLAN, DON'T YOU?

>> YES.

AND THAT LIFE IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME HOW AND YOU GET A FEEL FOR WHAT'S IMPORTANT IN LIFE AND WHAT'S NOT.

>> Ted: WELL, CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS AND BEST OF LUCK AND BEST OF HEALTH TO YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS, DOCTOR, AND THE HOSPITAL SOUNDS LIKE IT'S DOING GREAT WORK.

100 TRANSPLANTS IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS, GOODNESS GRACIOUS.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> TONIGHT ON THE NEWS HOUR, NEGOTIATIONS FOR FUNDING FOR UKRAINE AND THE U.S. SOUTHERN BORDER ARE THREATENED BY REPUBLICAN INCITING AND THAT'S AT 6:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

♪♪ ♪♪ >> Ted: WILLIE ETO IS A LONG-TIME AN MATER AND WORKING ON A NUMBER OF LONG-TIME TV SHOWS AND NOW WORKING ON HIS OWN FILM BASED ON THE STORY OF HIS FAMILY'S EXPERIENCE AS JAPANESE AMERICAN INTERNEES IN WORLD WAR II.

WE WELCOME YOU TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, SIR.

>> I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE.

>> Ted: YOU'RE LOOKING GOOD.

>> HANGING IN THERE.

[LAUGHTER] >> Ted: 70 YEARS AS AN ANIMATOR IN HOLLYWOOD?

>> I RETIRED AFTER 50 YEARS WITH DISNEY AND WARNER BROTHERS STUDIO.

HOWEVER, I'M STILL AT THE DRAWING BOARD.

>> Ted: I WANT TUKE ABOUT TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

WERE YOU ALWAYS REALLY GOOD AT DRAWING THINGS?

>> YES, YES, I WAS ONE OF THOSE.

I WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD WHEN I FIRST SAW SNOWWHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS ON THE BIG SCREEN AND WHEN THE SEVEN DWARFS MARCHED ACROSS THE SCREEN SING SINGING, THAT'S WHAT I KNEW I WANTED TO BE.

>> Ted: COULD YOU LOOK UP THERE AND SAY, I COULD DRAW ONE OF THOSE LITTLE GUYS?

>> I DID.

>> Ted: AND THEN YOU WENT AHEAD AND SO MUCH IN YOUR CAREER, BUT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT DISNEY AND THIS KIND OF STUFF.

BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS EIGHT YEARS OF AN, INTERMMENT CAMP.

TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.

>> ON THAT SO-CALLED INFAMOUS DAY, MY FAMILY WAS ALL IN A TIZY AND GATHERED TOGETHER.

I HAPPENED TO BE DOWN IN SANTA SPACE CRUZ ON A SUNDAY PICNIC.

WHEN WE GOT HOME, WE WERE STOPPED AT THE SAN FRANCISCO CITY LIMITS WITH ARM'S CENTURIES CHECKING ALL OF OUR I.D.ES.

WHEN WE GOT HOME, THE WHOLE FAMILY WAS TOGETHER AND THAT BEFORE CELL PHONES.

THERE WAS NO WAY TO NOTIFY MY UNCLE.

SO EVENTUALLY, WE WERE INCARCERATED.

I WENT TO A CAMP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE UTAH DESERT CALLED, TOPAZ.

AND THAT'S WHEN I STARTED TO REALLY HONE MY ART OF ANIMATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BEING STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT AND YOU COULD JUST PLAY SO LONG IN THE ALKALINE DUST, YOU CAME IN COVERED WITH DUST, AND I WOULD SPEND A LOT OF TIME JUST DRAWING.

ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WAS, WHILE WE WERE INCARCERATED, THE WINTERS WERE VERY HARSH.

AND WE HAD POT BELLY STOVES FOR OUR HEAT.

AND SO TWICE A WEEK, THE BIG TRUCK WOULD COME AND DUMP COAL AND WE WOULD ALL BE IN A LINE TRYING TO GATHER UP THE BEST PIECES OF COAL.

AND, OF COURSE, WE HAD NO STORES IN CAMP, SO CATALOGS, SEARS AND MONTGOMERY WARD CATALOGS WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

AND SO EVERY THREE MONTHS, THEY WOULD ISSUE US NEW CATALOGS.

HOWEVER, MY FATHER WOULD KEEP THE EXPIRED ONES AS GOOD FIRE STARTERS FOR OUR POT BELLY STOVE.

I WOULD TAKE ONE OF THE CATALOGS AND ON THE MARGIN OF EACH EACH PAGE, I WOULD DO BOUNCING BALLS OR FIGURES WALKS US AND MY OWN LITTLE FLIP BOOK.

>> Ted: NOW ARE THESE KINDS OF STORIES, THIS KIND OF MEMORY, IS THIS WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH "HELLO MAGGIE" YOUR CHILDREN'S BOOK AND TURNING INTO ANIMATION AND ARE THESE THE STORIES YOU'RE TELLING?

>> YES.

BASICALLY, MY WRITING PARTNER, WE BOTH GREW UP IN POSTWAR SAN FRANCISCO.

HE WENT TO A DIFFERENT CAMP CALLED HEART MOUNTAIN IN WYOMING AND HE WAS A BIG PET LOVER.

SO WHILE HE WAS IN INCARCERATED, HE RESCUED A BABY CHIC, MAGPIE THAT FELL OUT OF THE NEST.

HE RESCUED IT, BROUGHT IT HOME AND IT GREW UP GREW UP TO BE A BIG, GROWN, MAGPIE AND EVERY MORNING HE WOULD SAY, HELLO, MAGGIE, HELLO MAGGIE AND EVENTUALLY, MAGGIE WOULD TALK ABOUT AND SAY, HELLO, MAGGIE, HELLO MAGGIE.

[ Laughter ] >> Ted: AND THERE YOU GO, "HELLO MAGGIE," THE TITLE OF YOUR BOOK AND FILM.

YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH LADY AND A TRAMPLE AND SCOOBY DOO.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TELL SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO GET INTO ANIMATION WHEN IT'S SO COMPUTER GENERATED?

>> FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU LOVE TO DRAW AND YOUR PARENTS WANT YOU TO BE A LAWYER OR DOCTOR OR DENTIST, THEN PURSUE THE ART OF ANIMATION BECAUSE, TO ME, IT WAS SUCH A FULFILLING, YOU KNOW, WORK THAT I WAS INVOLVED IN AND SO I WOULD ALWAYS GIVE ADVICE TO YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DRAW AND MAKE A CAREER OF IT, GO FOR IT P. >> Ted: LAST QUESTION, AS FAR AS "HELLO MAGGIE" WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE FROM THIS?

>> WE WANTED TO TELL THE STORY OF OUR INCARCERATION IN A CHILD-FRIENDLY MANNER.

SO EVEN THOUGH THE BACKGROUND AND THE ENVIRONMENT IS AN INTERNMENT CAMP, YOU KNOW, IT WAS FUN AND WE HAD PETS.

WE LIVED A GOOD LIFE WITHIN CAMP DOING THE PERFECT WE CAN UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCE.

WHEN WE RETURNED TO OUR HOMES THREE YEARS LATER, MOST OF MY FRIENDS THAT WERE FELLOW INMATES, THEY'RE ALL DOING GREAT!

>> Ted: YOU CERTAINLY ARE DOING GREAT AND IT'S AN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE HAVING YOU ON THE PROGRAM.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M.

>> Ted: TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.