Well, shortly after that meeting, over 65 lawmakers met with members of Kentucky's homeless population who shared their stories and raised their voices against House Bill five, the Safer Kentucky Act and Anti-Crime bill, which includes criminal penalties for what's called unlawful camping.

Jenny Ramsey of the Catholic Action Center also shared results of a new survey on the criminalization of homelessness.

I'm here because we fight against House Bill five.

I'm here because there's no reason why there should be a criminalization for people who cannot.

It's not your issue.

It's the city.

It's the state.

Why are we not putting money out of our.

We have $4 billion.

I didn't say million.

I said be as if boy, billion dollars.

Why are we not putting money for resources in housing so that we won't lock up people.

Homeless camps in isolated areas, not street camping like they talked about.

81% of the people don't see that it's a threat to public safety because House Bill five is about public safety.

So we wanted to hear what the people, the citizens of Kentucky thought.

As long as I've been a lawyer, I've been a lawyer now 50 years almost, we've never thought about homeless as a crime.

We don't need to adopt this.

Let's put them in jail attitude because they don't have a place to live.

So I think that particular section of House Bill five really needs to be reevaluated Once it gets to the Senate.

It is not easy to be homeless, Is that.

It's like trying to ride a biker gang, trying to start all over.

It takes time.

But when we do reach out for help, ain't nobody there.

We have a global debt as a debt is up.

We got a budget that we can actually reach out to say, I need drug rehab.

If I do six months and I come out of rehab were where is I'm going?

I'm going right back out to the street is I'm going to housing is I'm going to get a job a look I saw stuff on a homeless person's mind.

We ain't giving up.

We ain't giving up on ourselves.

So we don't want the Senate to give up on us when we sit there voting for vote for us.

This time.