PBS Hawaiʻi Presents
Hometown Legends
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Five kūpuna share their wisdom of Hawaiian culture, offering insights for generations to come.
Five kūpuna, or elders, share their history, mea hana (craft), and kuleana (responsibility) as was passed to them. They represent paniolo (cowboys), lawaiʻa (fishermen), poʻe ulana (lauhala weavers) pahu (drum) carvers and hoe waʻa (canoe paddling) – cultural practices through generations of Native Hawaiian history.
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PBS Hawaiʻi Presents
Hometown Legends
Special | 59m 54sVideo has Closed Captions
Five kūpuna, or elders, share their history, mea hana (craft), and kuleana (responsibility) as was passed to them. They represent paniolo (cowboys), lawaiʻa (fishermen), poʻe ulana (lauhala weavers) pahu (drum) carvers and hoe waʻa (canoe paddling) – cultural practices through generations of Native Hawaiian history.
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Ku‘ulei: Succession, to continue on.
Succession, to follow in order.
Succession, to keep the sequence.
Succession, to carry into the future.
The time yet to come.
A succession plan, have you ever thought of one?
Do you have one who will assume the space left empty when a kūpuna passes?
Assumably, there will be one to succeed right?
Kūpuna, those who have lived in a time before you and I. Whose lives may have intersected with ours for a time.
Those who were willing to struggle, who survived a new hard work, whose hands became molded solid by the work they did.
Whose backs could withstand the weight of hardship, simple lives they lived, really no room for excess.
Productivity of necessities lay in their capable hands.
Who will take their place?
Who will tell their stories?
Who will take their ‘ike forward?
Who will share their experiences?
Who even cares?
Do you?
Uncle Manny: I was raised in Keaukaha.
I think it was one of the most formative parts of my life.
The people, everybody was just like one family, same ideas, same food, most of them had same occupation.
Live off the land, the ocean, the beach.
I felt real fortunate because I had grandparents that lived on a beach.
And my young years, I spent most of my time at the beach with them, fishing about maybe from eight till about 14.
I learned a lot.
I learned most of what my life was all about was what I learned from my grandparents: discipline, respect, respect for the land, respect for the ocean.
Unbelievable.
Uncle Manny: I learned how to go with the flow.
She gets caught in the high seas, big waves, rough ocean, and he's on shore telling me, and I was about 12 years old, I remember he tell me, "don't come back, swim out."
And a huge wave just pounding, sucking me out.
And he keep motioning to me, go, go, go, go, go out.
So I let the ocean take me there.
Go, bumbai I get you.
Old Man rolling his Bull Durham cigarettes, smoking his cigarette and watching me get sucked out to sea, and he's just motioning me go, just go.
About half hour later, he's on about a half mile away on the shore, smoking his cigarette and watching me.
And here comes the ocean bringing me back in.
And he's just waving me in, come on, come in, come in.
And his same ocean that took me out brought me back.
The ocean never takes you.
Don't try come back the same place, go.
He's going to bring you back someplace else, but he bring you back.
And it was so amazing.
And from that day on, I wasn't afraid of the ocean.
I just knew, you know, you just go something is going to take care of you.
Uncle Manny: I kind of look familiar ah?
Security guard: [LAUGHS] Thank you.
Uncle Manny: [LAUGHS] This is how they [UNINTELLIGIBLE].
As I grew up in Keaukaha, the funniest thing is our house was the only house was faced east and west.
Most of the homes were north and south in the Keaukaha subdivision.
And I didn't know why, but my dad built a house there, and every morning he got up, you look at this huge mountain, Mauna Kea, and I always told myself, "wow, look at that mountain."
In the morning, it was real nice and bright orange, in the evening, the mountain turned purple.
And every day, saw the same thing, except when it rained, which was quite often anyway.
But my mind was on that mountain, all the landmarks and everything.
So I told myself, someday I'm going to be up there, not knowing that it will be my home.
I graduated Hilo High School, and right after high school, it was 1950.
The Korean War broke out.
No more jobs Hilo.
18 years old I think I was that time.
Marine Corps open a recruiting office in Hilo.
I joined the Marine Corps, a few of us from Hilo.
The funny thing is, all Hawaiians, they joined the Marine Corps, not knowing what we were going to get into.
The thing I learned was discipline.
Was so amazing how they took a whole bunch of strangers and in eight weeks, made them think like one person.
I was so impressed with the way the Marine Corps trained people.
And the first thing came to my mind, what they said, "We're going to teach you something.
We're going to teach you how to learn.
You better learn now.
Tomorrow is too late.
We don't want you to learn tomorrow, too late.
You learn today."
And I never forgot that till today, how effective it was, and I think most of it probably controlled my whole life.
I paddled with one of the top canoe clubs that year when I got to Honolulu, Healani Canoe Club, one of the oldest canoe clubs.
And it wasn't something you just walked on and you paddled.
You were invited, but it doesn't mean you got a seat on a canoe, it meant you were invited to try out.
I sat on a beach for two weeks.
Never got in a canoe until one day, one, the steersman of one of the crews never showed up.
And the coach asked me, "Hey, you know how to steer?"
"Oh, yeah, I know."
"Get in there, steer that canoe."
And I never lost my seat till today.
70 years later, never lost my seat, because I knew what it took, what he had to what he had to accomplish.
Anyway, I paddled for Healani.
Then I paddled for couple of other clubs in Honolulu, Waikīkī, Waikīkī Surf, all good club, good people.
I learned a lot about canoe racing, and I learned about the respect the people gave you down there.
The fire captain at Waimea was Charlie Rose.
Then one day he approached me, there would be an outstanding program for Waimea.
Tell me they want me to coach the club, the physical part of the club, I handle.
The Kawaihae Canoe Club was formed 50 years ago, and it took off like a house on fire.
Kahealani: He was my dad, for first and foremost.
But when we were down here, he wasn't my dad, he was my coach.
He told us that if we weren't treated the same down here as everybody else, then he would have a hard time coaching, and that we understood.
So we became like any other paddler.
That taught me that he really loved us, you know, otherwise he wouldn't care, like, if he came down here and he yelled at us in front of everybody, he wouldn't care, you know.
But he cared.
Uncle Manny: The first year of competition, Kawaihae was virtually unbeatable, seeing all these young kids.
The whole Waimea town closed down on Saturdays when there's a canoe race, and the people just responded unbelievably.
Four generations have come through this club already.
Little different, same people, same family, but yeah, four generations have come true.
I've seen them all.
Isabel: Stern.
He'll tell it like it is, but he's fair with them, and it's so neat.
When you come down and he's asking a question, and they'll go, "yes, sir."
You know his military background, being a fireman.
They looked up.
They always look up to him.
Kahealani: There's always going to be people that don't agree, of course, but the ones that do and respect him, they always come back, and they always tell him what a difference that he's made in their lives.
And some didn't even know it until later on in life.
You know, the ones that he was really hard on, and some of them not here anymore.
You know, before they passed on, they reached out to him.
Uncle Manny: I first woke up here about 40 years ago.
Then the past 10 years, very often.
Nobody, I'm alone, no cars, no nothing, no human beings, only me.
Kahealani: The reason why he came back here was because of his passion, which is Mauna Kea.
Uncle Manny: You hear a lot of people talk about the mountain and stuff like that, they never saw the mountain.
They think they know Mauna, Kea, they don't know.
I've seen what nobody will ever see.
Lot of it is being covered already by cinders, windstorms, it's still there.
But you guys just gotta know.
I go up to Poli‘ahu, Poli‘ahu is my favorite spot.
I used to go up the mountain, when before they had a road.
They stay in the 50s, late 50s, they opened up sheep hunting, and we used to walk to Lake Waiau from Hale Poli‘ahu.
The road ended there, was only the trail, the Humu‘ula trail.
Walked all the way up, walk to the summit.
Then you became accustomed to the silence.
What I loved about it, and you stayed up there whole week, there in the back country, in the mountain, sometimes you cannot come out because you're fog in for two or three days and no place to go except walk.
And you learn how to exist in a wild country like that, in the fog, knowing, just by looking at the grass where you were, just by looking at grass, you can't see anything else, only the ground.
Your senses became just like the animals, they're like the wild animals, sheep, gold, pig, the nēnē.
And you could sense the animal, you could feel them, you could heal.
You became so acute.
Your senses are different.
And I love being there.
I love the loneliness.
You know, what do you guys understand?
It wasn't all roses, you know?
A lot of hard times.
Too real.
Hard Times wasn't easy.
It's not only the good, because lot of bench parts.
If anybody had bad sides, they had a lot of them.
But you got to overcome all that.
It's you, how you look at it.
Uncle Manny: He's always been the guiding rock for me, the guiding light.
He's taught me that if you're going to do something, go for it, but also do it right.
The first time, he has always told us, don't give up.
He is such a big part of everyone's lives.
Kahealani: keep coming back to the same word, so I guess it's humble.
He doesn't like to flaunt.
He'd rather stay in the background.
But yet, he knows how to get things done.
He knows what he wants to do.
He knows where he's headed.
That's just my father.
Uncle Willy: Living in this kind of place, you know, I mean you there's no other alternative but learn how to fish.
And not only one type, you know, there's so many different ways.
My uncles, they used to make their own hooks and make their own lines.
I just couldn't believe, you know, I go paddle with them, or whatever, you know, fishing they do.
The way they do things and magnificent, you know what, whatever they did.
So I took, took it serious.
Kaimi: You know, Miloli‘i still is kind of a blast in the past already, because of our isolation.
His parents, specifically, and even his grandparents and grandmother guys were very influential in the community.
Our ‘ohana, they could, they could weave, they could do all kind of different crafts, lāʻau lapaʻau medicine, they were, you know, they had all kinds of different things, but we tried to keep a lot of the practices going, which pertained mainly around fishing.
Uncle Willy: A lot of fish, lot of ‘opihi.
The one I was loaded, we come home like 5-10 tubs, you know, my uncle used to go with his bamboo pole, scoop the water.
That's how I learned to dive, actually.
He went, pile up all the wana, and then he smashed them, then the fish all came, then and I dive in the water to shoot.
It was loaded.
I think the ‘ōpelu industry is the biggest industry as far as growing up in Miloli‘i.
It wasn't ahi, it wasn't menpachi, it wasn't bottle fish, you know.
Like the old days, I can remember that our parents was always talking about Moon calendars, you know, for fishing, yeah.
I never think was that important.
But I realized now, good and old, it was making sense.
The moon flowers and stuff like that, you know.
It helps you know that what's going to happen soon.
Know when the wana's going to be fat, or the ‘opihi be ready, you know?
I mean, these Hawaiians had everything down, you know.
Man, the boat just come in with a lot of fish, you know what I mean, a lot of fish.
Kaimi: When I was growing up in the early '80s, '90s, it was in that transitional growth time.
A lot of people were coming in, and the rest of the state was moving ahead, but Miloli‘i was still trying to be a place that is rooted deep in culture and history.
Uncle Willy: When I first came home, all my friends was complaining about the ‘ōpelu thing.
These guys was broken the rules so and I was thinking, how gonna get this thing straightened up, yeah?
So I got involved and say, "Hey, we have certain condition in the village that we want to uphold, to fish in that way, from the kūpunas.
So what can you guys do to help us?
You know, without fighting, you know?"
I kind of felt like, wow, my place was getting invaded.
You know what I mean?
Uncle Willy: There was going to be a huge Marina about 10-miles down the village, and I jump on it with all my friends and just stop it, you know?
And then I'm glad I did that, you know what I mean, because we had that marina warehouse, I think this village be all destroyed.
It was going to put 400 boats.
Uncle Willy: Senator Inouye recognized what I did.
He sent me to Washington and gave me that recognition of preserving, to establish, like a national thing.
Uncle Willy: You know, when you get some things that you know it's not right, you got to make it right, yeah.
Kaimi: Was something that could have progressed this southern community more opportunities.
But at that time, in the '80s, he saw already the destruction of so much Western influence and external pressure to eventually destroy a lot of our ways of life.
We're able to overcome that, then he was able to help get all these homes for the ‘ohana so that we can still have a connection to this place.
And in the last 10-15 years, he worked really hard to stop other issues that are close to his heart, specifically, He sued the state when it came to protection of our reefs so that we don't want any more people to collect aquarium fish for the tanks.
And that was a huge accomplishment for him.
And then we had the Governor of Hawai‘i come and sign a community-based subsistence fishing area.
So he's been a kūpuna behind the scenes, always encouraging us and so happy that we finally got to do what he always wanted to do, which is take care of this place so that it can continue to help the next generation, the future that will carry on that kuleana.
Uncle Willy: You know, times is changing, and we only can educate our kids, or talk about the kūpunas and see the kids that can carry on.
You know, how willing for they want to practice and maintain that?
Yeah?
Came here one day, I went down there to his school, and this, this boy had lunch break.
He gone to his car, got his throw net, and he went, go throw it, came back, about one dozen of this kind [UNINTELLIGIBLE].
I said, "Kim, you better give him two As.
Look at this.
On his lunch break, he getting, look!"
You know, I was shocked, you know, to see this small boy, you know.
God man, he's gonna get it down.
He's already, you know, developing that to what he can do, because he watched his uncles, he watched everything, and now he's doing it.
So how can go wrong?
Uncle Willy: There's some future that ahead of us, and always we're going to bring the people closer to know what we're striving to.
We want to retain the value of the fish, we don't want to destroy it.
It's time, I think everybody, wherever you at, it's time to wake up.
Don't wait when it's all gone.
Kaimi: We are in a time of so much change, I think, even more than ever.
And I just hope that the people of Hawai‘i look at the work we do as a model for them to stand up for their places that ‘ōpelu fishing is iconic fishing for Miloli‘i.
But it really is more than just that, like it is part of who we are, it's an extension of our our ‘ohana.
So we can look 10-20 years down the road and see that it'll feed our families, it'll teach our next generation, and it will really help our lāhui to thrive.
Uncle Keoni: My lifestyle growing up in Ka‘alaea, most people know their places, Kahalu‘u, that was my grandmother's ahupua‘a.
Esther Kukahiko, yeah.
She's original from the Big Island.
We grew up in the ocean, yeah.
Walking from baby time, from first, second grade up to we got to adults.
That was a great time, making imu all the time.
Our young kids, when we was younger, that was our job for cleaning the imu, yeah.
The job for make the imu was our dad them, our uncles.
And that was our time to learn how to do that type of work, yeah.
And it's not one time, a year, that was like every other week we doing that work.
Imu, yeah, catching turtle, yeah.
Turtle was the main meat for us, yeah?
So people, if you know about the lifestyle of living in Hawai‘i, never had cows, never had cattle around.
Yeah we barely had cattle or pigs, yeah, but our main meat was a turtle.
One big turtle, maybe a week.
Because, you know, much kids in a family, yeah?
And there was only that family, Aweaus, Kukahiko, Pakele, yeah, Manuia, yeah, that was our family line.
Leomana: Some crazy things is, if you look in his van, he has like, two medals hanging from his rear view.
One is the Molokai Hoe gold medal, and that's from when he was, I think, in his 20s, maybe 21.
He was the youngest man to ever paddle Moloka‘i, I think he was 12, and you're supposed to be 13 to enter.
So he was 12 years old.
Him and my uncles were all 12, and it's like a cultural battle between us and the Samoans, Polynesians, and Maori, who's the king of the ocean, because that's kind of like our history and how we got here.
So if you can be the best in that, then, hey, you lead the Polynesians.
And if you lead the Polynesians in voyaging in wa‘a, you lead human exploration.
That's kind of like a title in history that I think is super cool that my dad got.
And so he got involved with my uncle commercial diving for like, center art pieces of big black coral.
And those, you know, they start to grow at around 300 feet deep.
And so he would, on the weekends, hook up a tank, jump in the water with my uncles, and just go down deep.
And they weren't using rebreathers, they were just using basic compressed air, they didn't know about mixed gas, they didn't have all the new high tech stuff.
And so all they had was a compressed air tank with a mass and a hammer, and they would go down there and chisel away at these beautiful pieces of coral.
They were radical.
Hey, people were paying $10,000 for these coral.
And so if you can make $10,000 just by a two-hour dive, you're gonna do it.
This is when Hawaiians were suppressed.
This my dad was the second generation of his family that didn't learn the culture, didn't learn the language.
It was maybe his fifth time where he went down, he ran out of oxygen.
Because, you know, these guys with their depth gages, they don't really know what's going on, and so they just, "oh, I got no oxygen."
You know, he's like, "What do I do?"
Run out of air, or else, risk getting the bends.
And instead of running out of air and dying, he just had to come to the surface.
He's paralyzed from the piko down, and it's more of like a sense of balance.
Uncle Keoni: Told myself, you know what, I'm going to move to Hilo.
I settled down.
I found a house and I found a school for my son them, I found a place, down at Kealoha Beach Park.
I parked my car, grabbed my wheelchair out, and I decided to do some wiliwili weaving, yeah.
Not too much spirit can talk to me, but kūpuna spirit can talk to me underneath the lauhala tree.
It's the first time one kūpuna spirit, yeah, and the voice, come touch me and talk to me about "boy, make Hawaiian drums, you Hawaiian."
Uncle Keoni: [CHANTING IN HAWAWAIIAN] Well, my younger days, I got taught, yeah.
Back maybe when I was like 14-15 years old, my older hanai brothers got into the hula halau, yeah.
So they was all drummers and fire dancers.
Then when I got into the halau, we was part of the drummers too, and then we get to learn how to make one drum.
So we learned how to make drums from John Dalire, because he was the expert and the pro for Hawaiian drum making, Polynesian drum making and Polynesian show.
I don't know how much drums I made, until today, sometimes I could say, like, 4000.
From lapaiki, kilu, to knee drum, punius, to hula drums, to ceremony drums, to different kind of drums, yeah.
And from day one, yeah, I never did stop you.
[SPEAKING IN HAWAIIAN] Leomana: I look at accomplishments and my dad, I just I see these things as community changing type of accomplish, you know, not like a personal one.
Hey cool, he has personal dreams and goals, but when I see him, he's not just my dad.
He's like, wow, this real Hawaiian Kanaka who leads by example, and he's been hit with the hardest thing in life to take away his lower half of his body, but look at him go.
And so he's accomplishing these like community changing things that you know, inspire me as a man.
Growing up, I guess, to serve the community, he woke me and my brother up every morning at four o'clock to go lay net at four miles.
And by the time we were out and the fish was in the cooler, he would be waving down the kūpuna in the neighborhood, and 3-4 fish in a bag, and here you go, just take them.
This is to eat, because I know you guys cannot swim, and I know you guys don't have the skills.
And, you know, look at my boys.
They can catch more fish than we can eat.
And he would feed them.
And so I think that just his foundation of being one freaking probably the best dad I ever will come across is, you know, like inspiring to me as a dad.
Uncle Keoni: We're getting older, yeah, and you know, our young time, we had the energy, boost energy.
If people don't do these things, yeah, you're never gonna find Hawaiian arts.
You're never gonna find Hawaiian artists.
Yeah, not in Hawaiian.
Dead, died, fade away.
I know that much artists pass away, but they only will share it with that much people with their art piece, yeah, but who would carry on with their art piece?
Lauhala weaving, yeah, kukui nut shell making.
You don't practice that, you don't do it, you lose it.
Leomana: The world nowadays, I don't know where all the good men went.
You know, if we look around the planet, it's just like man corruption and nobody does really anything, because nobody feels responsibility over you, you know.
But my dad, for some reason, he's like, “Nah, I'll take everybody in my community, the high performers, low performers, everyone you know.” And I think that's the kind of men that change the world and inspire us to all be better people.
Aunty Shirley: I guess I should begin with telling you where I was born.
Grew up in Kealia.
My first eight years of my life was spent in Kealia, along the beach.
During the day, the ocean was our friend.
All of the little ponds were our babysitters.
And then in the evenings, being able to go out and gather pipipi, which is the little black periwinkles.
And then at night, the kūpe‘e.
Then tagging along with my dad when he went along the shoreline to throw net.
Of course, we were told, myself and my brothers, that you never walk ahead, you always stay in the background, and you only come forward when he's thrown his net, he's taken it out of the water, and then it's time to unload the catch.
Then we got to carry the bag of fish.
But then we could sit in the pond, and if we're lucky and the fish was still alive, or one or two, we could play with them.
Of course, then we ate them later.
Grandpa even had a large, what we called a big old ice box.
It's like a big wooden chest that was insulated.
And all the fishermen would bring their catch, and then we would load up grandma's little pickup truck, which was outfitted so she could take the fish off to Hilo, to the auction block.
To Suisan, which is still in existence, and if we were lucky, we could tag along.
It was fun, probably around anywhere from three to four hours, wet with a load.
But for us as kids, there was always the stop at Hongo store in Volcano because we could get goodies.
And one of the things they always carried was boiled eggs.
So we could get a boiled egg along with whatever else we could convince grandma to spend her money on.
And then finish the journey into Hilo, get all of the fish unloaded, and then load up the pickup with ice, ice blocks, basically to get back to Ho‘okena.
Aloha: Aunty Shirley's ‘ohana, the Cho ‘ohana and the Kauhaihao ‘ohana has been a huge connection and family from, you know, the Honaunau area.
The cowboys, the coffee pickers, the fishermen in this garden, you know.
She's been here for a long time.
Family member: kākou.
Dear God, thanks for this wonderful day.
Please watch over us and bless us.
Keep us safe.
Please bless the hands that made the food today.
Bless everyone that's here and everyone that's away.
Please give them guidance and blessing, Lord.
In your name, we pray, amen.
[LAUGHTER, CHATTER] Aunty Shirley: My kumu, kumu lauhala was my grandmother.
On our property in Kealia, we had three lauhala trees, and grandma would weave when she was not busy with other things.
My job initially was to gather the leaves, but the tree was cared for in such a way that the leaves hardly ever fell to the ground.
We would take it off the tree before it hit the ground.
And so I still have that where I prefer to take leaves from the tree rather from the ground.
And so was the gatherer was me and my brothers, if they weren't being kolohe.
And that went on for a number of years, and when I was about, well, probably between nine and 10, Grandma weaving every day to supplement the family income.
Decided guess that I was ready to learn.
Because she was a hat weaver, weaving showed me what she wanted me to do, and that was basically the crown of the pāpale, which is just this part right there.
And that's all she would let me do repetitively, every time I sat down, all I did was the crown.
And then several years later, I guess she must have felt that I was doing it well enough that I could learn to do the brim the ‘ekeu.
By the time I was in high school, nearly out of high school, she decided, okay, you can learn to do a very beginning, the piko, and then the pā, the very top of the hat.
So by the time I got out of high school, I got that part mastered.
But it's still the most difficult part of the entire pāpale is that piko and pā.
Just have to take your time and be sure to do it right, because if it's not correct, has to come apart and go back to where the area was and then start all over.
Have any of you ladies done bracelets?
A while, okay, that's probably the simplest and the quickest item to do with little time, but it's easy to take it with you.
Back of the knife, or like I'm doing with the scissors.
By doing what I did helps you soften.
It feels like leather, yeah.
Being raised by my grandmother, and when I got married, she told my husband, you will live with with me, with us.
So my grandfather and grandmother kept us on, and we lived with them all those years.
Then grandpa passed, my husband passed, and then got all these little guys.
That was probably the most difficult part of my life was when he passed.
However, good things come from difficulty.
Well, my fourth child passed at the age of 15.
But you know, I realized that we are quite resilient, that we can overcome difficulties, all we have to do is work at it.
Aunty Shirley: I love this garden.
I had a little granddaughter who was probably about eight at the time, and one of her aunts worked with the Historical Society.
And picked Ku‘ulei from school and brought her over to the garden.
Ku‘ulei just enjoyed being here, that she was here every Wednesday as much as she could possibly do.
She passed at age 12, but she left that legacy behind, and I just felt the need to continue what she had done and just carry on and do as much as possible for the garden.
She loved it so much.
Aloha: Not just the past loss that she'd been, she's had very recent loss, three very close family members, and this woman, I called her, she came stopped by and still is just so strong and just carries lot of weight and stuff on her back, but you would never be have been able to tell, because she just really powers through with her grace and everything, and still with a smile on her face and still coming to check up on me and the kids, and the garden and how things are going, you know?
So, yeah, she is an amazing, amazing woman.
Aunty Shirley: I believe we all have something to contribute.
Up to the day we pass, we have something to contribute.
Hopefully it's all good, and if it's not, hopefully whoever we've been nasty to will forgive us, but there, oftentimes, it's something good out of what's bad.
It hurts me sometimes when I say we go out to dinner or lunch, and I notice people walk in, sit down, and out comes their phone.
They're not talking to each other.
You know, conversation is so important.
Talk about what we're doing, the things that we can share in our everyday life.
Put the device down and spend time with each other.
Don't make that little device your focal point.
The person in front of you should be your focal point.
Uncle Sonny: This saddle when I went work full on in 1963.
Is makule this saddle, yeah.
Same speed, same all buss up, broken down, but we okay.
Uncle Sonny: Three hours brought up on plantation, no girl, going on plantation, but yet raised up on a ranch, was two different like dialect, you know, we have the ‘Olelo Hawai‘i and wala‘au kanaka today, so sorta was brought up like that.
My uncle was top crane operator for the plantation those days.
Growing up till you're six years old, they moved to Pu‘uanahulu, then from Pu‘uanahulu, learning about horses, worked with my dad, uncles and cousins.
My great tutu was cowboy.
My grandfather wasn't, but his brother was, kūkū Kailiwai.
And then my grand uncle was the one that taught my dad how to cowboy.
My tūtū man, my grandfather, made horses for the Hind family, but plow horses.
They planted corn in order for take care of the pure birds, makai side Pu‘uanahulu.
And he made plow horses, learn them, you know, wagon horses.
And then my dad was brought up by his uncle, Kailiwai is my grand uncle.
We used to walk from Pu‘uanahulu down with grandma.
We'll get seven of us mo‘opunas with her, and we walk down like, about five-thirty, six o'clock, when it's cool.
When came about 10 o'clock, was halfway down, Grandma will put us inside of puka.
We wait until like, oh five o'clock, five-thirty, then we continue our trip down to Kīholo, where was much cooler for us.
From Kīholo, from Pu‘u O‘o was like 13-miles.
I think from Pu‘uanahulu was like 11-miles, no.
When you look with your eye, it looks near.
But when you walk with all the haluas, what I mean halua is the hollow.
Ah, the kulapa, the rise.
Ah, the pahua, the flat, no.
We fished down there because we had a local down there, Kīholo fish pond.
My tūtū man them, they're the ones started the fish pond down in Kīholo.
Back in the 1700s, I can't go back as far as that, because growing up, was there already, because everything in the makau was all coral, not concrete.
Growing up in Pu‘u O‘o and Pu‘uanahulu, dad used to haul out cattle.
What I mean haul out, sheep cattle out of Kīholo.
And that's when I was about, like, you know, 6-7.
They put me on his shipping hostage that he took down to train for pull cattle out into the water, and then he made me swim, you know, sit on a saddle, and they just let the [UNINTELLIGIBLE] and from there I started until I started drinking salt water.
I let her go to [UNINTELLIGIBLE], started down, swimming back inside.
But he knew how the current would just take my backside inside, so everything was okay.
That's how I learned.
We hunt, we fish, we work all together, no.
Uncle Sonny: Back in 1975 was 225,000 acres.
They ran about like 50,000 herd of cattle.
That's all, you know, mother cows, bull, batter, marketing and everything.
Horses, they ran about like almost 600 herd of horses.
Back in those days, we had about 30, 30 cowboys, 30 to 40.
I worked for Richard Smart and ride for Parker Ranch brand, yeah, this P on my hat.
The nice party took care of us.
You know, I worked for that man.
I was sent in Ka‘ū, I was sent in Kohala, and then I ended up Makahalau, Mana division for 19 and a half years, and I stayed up there, and everything was all like how Richard wanted the ranch to be run.
Everybody that we worked together those years really loved what we did.
I mean, you know, from the heart.
And you know, I can name you some good names that you know that we worked together, the old timers, those were the old guys.
Walter Stephens, Charles Stevens, two brothers.
One, Charles Stevens, Mana, Walter Stevens, Keʻāmuku.
They were the supervisors.
And then Yoshi Kawamoto, Kohala.
They were the lulas.
What I mean lulas, that time in Hawaiian, they were the foundation.
We were like the pillars, no, the followers, the ‘ohanas, you know.
Like I said, the Ah Sams, the Kanihos, the Yamaguchis.
All plenty Japanese family, plenty Portuguese family, the Quintals, you know, all the Nobrigas, they were good cowboys.
No, it wasn't just Hawaiian cowboy, when one Portuguese cowboy, Filipino, was all put together, espaniolo, no.
Ku‘ulei: Working as a cowboy, you don't make a lot of money.
So a sense of appreciation, second to none was how he raised us.
We heard these words uttered from as far back as I can remember, as a child, "mahalo i ka mea lo‘a."
And that means to appreciate what you have.
Uncle Sonny: Everybody enjoyed.
And then we shared, you know BS, you know we pau hana, we drink beer, you know, we brand or as we win off.
And when we drive, everything was, you know, work together, no.
And then when I came, hey, everything in Hawai‘i, Henry Ah Sam, Jiro Yamaguchi, ah, Walter, ah.
O ‘oe kula‘i, knocked down.
O ‘oe kaula, you going rope.
You the one going rope the calf, pull to the fire.
O ‘oe ʻoki laho, you go and castrate.
O ‘oe kun, you going brand.
O ‘oe lā‘au, you going inoculate the calves.
Yeah.
Uncle Sonny: Grandma them was our, our language, they were our tongue.
See like grandma there like "pehea mai nei keiki?"
She not going tell me, "pehea 'oe keiki?"
Pehea mai nei.
Ah, she gonna tell you "ah, answer back, meike'i."
Meike'i.
Beautiful when I say that.
Everybody's so accustomed with pehea ‘oe, maika‘i.
But when I say "pehea mai nei keiki?"
Ah, oia mau.
See, that's another Hawaiian word say, I'm okay.
Oia mau means that how we left the last time, and we like this again, and we share it exactly the same.
Ah, pehea mai nei?
Ah, oia mau.
See, oia mau is more beautiful.
It's more more contact, more connection.
You know, more that what you see and hope.
Thank you.
You know.
Ah, pehea mai nei keiki?
Ah, oia mau.
Likepu.
Same.
Likepu means same.
That's one of our old tradition that people wouldn't share like that, and I tell them, as you connect, no, you connecting from the heart, you know?
And then when you answer, is how you receive and accept, no.
And then in the end, we all appreciate each other, because tomorrow another day.
If no happen, aloha no, but every day, we make sure that our words that we connect.
Ku‘ulei: I think my dad's legacy is aloha ‘aina, and that that word is so apparent today.
Used everywhere, which is good and it should be.
But the way he teaches us and continues to teach us, and have taught us, I think again, is that succession.
To know your ‘aina, in a way.
What we say, what they say, maa, hele a maa.
You become so accustomed to your ‘aina, your land, your ocean.
You love it.
You aloha ‘aina.
You look at it.
You feel for it.
Deeper.
You see it beyond this beautiful beach.
We're able to see places that you never even know existed.
To ride deep into the Kohalas and be above the valleys of like Honokane Nui, Honokane Iki, and you're kind of looking out and down to them, and the ocean is outside of that, the vantage points that we were afforded.
Uncle Sonny: When I come down by pu‘u iki, and then when I look, I can see home, Hualalai, up Mauna Loa, and ikaika via Mauna Kea.
And then when I stay right on Ola, it just shows everything that, you know, it's right there.
You ever drove up on this Kohala mountain, and they got that mountain before you reach, you turn up, you know, clear.
They just park, and they just look, and you see them, the huts, right there, no.
Are you thankful?
Wow.
I get to be all on this place.
I can be on one kulapa, which means a high rise, and I can look down.
When I work up Kemole, I look down, I can see Waimea, I can see down Kawaihae, look onto, I can see all the way, maybe Waikoloa, Something that the pier every day that you're thankful you can see.
If I work in the back the mountain, Humu‘ula coming out to Laupahoehoe, Pua‘ākala, then I can look down I see Hilo all the way outside towards Kea‘au, no.
Ku‘ulei: affords us these opportunities to aloha ‘aina in that way to not just know that pu‘u, perhaps by its name, oh yes, you know its name, but you know who and what that pu‘u is because your body has physically been on it.
You have seen the dirt from it.
You have ridden down that steep slope.
You know how steep Pu‘ukawaiwai actually is because you are on the back of your horse coming down.
So that kind of aloha ‘aina was to know your places like that.
And know them intimately beyond their name, right?
You look deeper into the name.
Why that place named that?
Why Kalaemanō named Kalaemanō?
Make sure you know why.
That these are treasures.
What was handed to me by him and by others are these gems, like precious gems that need to be tended to and cared for as they need to be, as they should be.
So when I pass that forward, you're going to assume this in the same way, that it is a treasure and you got to care for it in a manner that it deserves.
Ku‘ulei: A clear and direct path is there for you to tread.
Much is at stake my brothers, my sisters, my children.
Much will be lost if we but turn our cheek to assuring succession.
I can but hope that these words of mine have potentially made aware in our consciousness that the children we raise today will someday become the kūpuna.
Leomana: When I screwed up, he made me walk home like from here, and we live like seven miles away, and I was in second grade.
You know, I can run away real easy.
Yeah, he's in a wheelchair.
Mana, come here, grab that note.
I jump in the car, and he grabs my shirt.
Get your outside.
You're walking home.
He throws me outside the car, and I'm like, what?
And he goes follow me, and he drives on the side of the road all the way to Chong Street.
Uncle Manny: I still work.
I still work like I did 40 years ago.
I fix fence.
I can put posts in the ground.
I'll be 90 years old.
I do what I did 40 years ago.
Not easy, though.
You find ways to put a post in the ground.
Before you could lift the post up, dig a hole, put the post up, throw him in the ground.
Now, you take you half a day to dig one hole before I could dig 20.
Aunty Shirley: The thing about shopping way back then is because you only get to go to the market, maybe once a month, you really stocked up on everything.
So to be able to get spam, lucky spam, corned beef that was another item, and then rice by the bags full, 100-pound bags.
You can't find 100-pound bags anymore, especially on those flour stack type bags.
Uncle Willy: I moved to Honolulu with my older sister.
I wanted to go on a beach, play, be Beach Boys, and I like surf, swim and all that.
So that's what I did.
When I met my wife, then I wanted to get out of Honolulu.
Then I brought her here, and she kind of like the place, you know, so she moved here.
Uncle Sonny: This my working hat when I was working Parker Ranch long time, but I can share with you guys, there's one issue about here.
You got Mauna Kea dirt on top, ah, Hualalai dirt, Mauna Loa, Mauna Kea and Kohala dirt on top, no.
So every place I work, the dust, like down South Point, stay on top here, you know.
All the way outside.
You know Kapāpala or down.
You know Kohala, [UNINTELLIGIBILE] or down Honoka‘a.
Ah, at least get something.
Come home with me, no.
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