THIS WEEK ON TO THE CONTRARY.•• FIRST, 31 SENATORS PUT THE PRESIDENT ON NOTICE ABOUT HEALTH CARE AND WOMEN'S ISSUES.

THEN, SHOULD EMPLOYERS BE ALLOWED TO OFFER COMPENSATION TIME INSTEAD OF OVERTIME PAY?

IVANKA AND HILLARY - MORE ALIKE THAN YOU MAY THINK?

HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO TO THE CONTRARY, A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, PRESIDENT TRUMP CELEBRATES A MAJOR VICTORY.

REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE AND THE WHITE HOUSE CELEBRATED THEIR VICTORY IN PASSING A LAW THAT WILL OVERTURN OBAMACARE, IF IT PASSES THE SENATE.

THE VOTE FOLLOWED CHANGES GOP HOUSE MEMBERS SAY WILL ADDRESS COVERAGE FOR PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS, BUT EXPERTS SAY NOT.

IT REPEALS MOST OBAMACARE TAXES, INCLUDING A PENALTY FOR NOT BUYING HEALTH INSURANCE.

IT ALSO SLASHES FUNDING FOR MEDICAID AND BLOCKS MEDICAID PAYMENTS TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD FOR BIRTH CONTROL AND PREVENTIVE HEALTHCARE, A MOVE DEMOCRATS SAY IS AN ASSAULT ON WOMEN.

WE WANT THE PRESIDENT TO KNOW WE ARE NOT LETTING YOU SIGN ANYTHING IN THE DARK.

EARLIER THIS WEEK 31 SENATORS, 30 DEMOCRATS AND BERNIE SANDERS, SIGNED ON TO A LETTER ASKING PRESIDENT TRUMP TO STOP HIS "DESPICABLE ATTACKS ON WOMEN'S HEALTH AND WOMEN'S RIGHTS.

WE HAVE WITNESSED MANY ATTACKS ON WOMEN'S HEALTH, CONTRACEPTIVE RIGHTS, TITLE 10, APPOINTING PEOPLE TO CABINET POSITIONS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY ANTICHOICE.

AND ECONOMIC SECURITY IS AN ISSUE THAT PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY STOOD UP FOR THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION.

OUR JOB IS TO HOLD THIS PRESIDENT ACCOUNTABLE.

WE WANT HIM TO KNOW WE'RE WATCHING AND WE SEE IT AND WE WANT A CHANGE.

>> KATHLEEN, WELCOME BACK TO THE PANEL.

IS CONGRESS OR ARE CONGRESS AND THE WHITE HOUSE LISTENING TO OR IGNORING WOMEN'S CONCERNS IN THIS BILL?

>> I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE SEEN A WOMAN.

I DON'T THINK THEY PAY ATTENTION I DON'T THINK THEY ARE INTERESTED.

>> THE LETTER IS BY 30 DEMOCRATS AND BERNIE SANDERS OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO SAY THAT.

HE IS FINE.

HE HAS PEOPLE AROUND HIM THAT ARE LISTENING AND HE IS CONCERNED.

>> SO FAR ALL INDICATIONS ARE NO, THIS IS NOT A PRIORITY FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION OR THIS PRESIDENT.

>> I THINK THIS IS EASY DISTRACTION AWAY FROM THE FACT THAT WOMEN HAVE SEEN HIGHER COSTS FOR WOMEN BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE.

>> DO YOU THINK WOMEN ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE COSTS OR NOT HAVING PREEXISTING CONDITIONS COVERED?

>> WHEN YOU CONSIDER BEFORE OBAMACARE WAS INSTITUTED MOST AMERICANS HAD COVERAGE.

YOU HAD 10% OF AMERICANS WHO DIDN'T.

AND WE'VE SEEN PREMIUMS INCREASE 25% FOR THIS YEAR ALONE BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE.

SOMETHING NEEDED TO BE DONE.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO PREEXISTING CONDITIONS WOMEN HAVE HAD TO PAY MORE BECAUSE WE UTILIZE MORE HEALTHCARE SERVICES.

BUT TO INCREASE COSTS ACROSS THE BOARD FOR MEN AND WOMEN DOES NOT HELP THE WHOLE FAMILY.

>> DO TRUMP SUPPORTERS BELIEVE THAT COSTS WILL GO DOWN?

>> YES.

YES.

>> THE WHERE THE PRICE GOES UP AND DOWN AND THEN THE PRICE OF THE GAS AT THE PUMP FOLLOWS IT.

ONCE PRICES GO UP IN HEALTHCARE WE HAVE NEVER SEEN THEM COME DOWN.

>> BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE COMPETITION IN THE STATES.

AND THE FIRST BILL DES NOT TAKE CARE TO HAVE YET THERE IS A SECOND PART AFTER THE REGULATIONS ARE CHANGED AND THAT IS THE NEXT STEP.

AND IT HAS TO BE PASSED IN PARTS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE DEMOCRATS PASSED IN PART IT IS HAS TO BE UNDONE IN DIFFERENT PARTS.

>> THIS IS PUSHING PEOPLE IN DIRE SITUATIONS INTO CRISIS.

WE CAN APPRECIATE THE COST OF FEET TALL AND MATERNAL CARE AND I ARGUE PUTTING THE MANDATE CONVERSATION ASIDE THE IDEA WE MATERNAL AND PRENATAL CARE AND WE'VE FUNDED IT ACROSS THE SEAS AND OUR ECONOMIES ARE MORE PROSPEROUS AND WE HAVE AN EMBARRASSINGLY HIGH INFANT MORTALITY RATE IN THIS COUNTRY.

>> ESPECIALLY AMONG WOMEN OF COLOR.

>> ABSOLUTELY AND IN THE SOUTH.

THIS IDEA THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS TO FIX.

ON TOP OF THAT, OH, WELL, BABIES NEED TO BE BORN BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO FOOT THE BILL YOURSELF.

>> THE PRICES WILL GO DOWN FOR YOUNG HEALTHY PEOPLE.

WHO WON'T BUY IT AND GO UP FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE OLDER.

THERE'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE COSTLY.

AND PEOPLE WHO -- $2 -- 24 MILLION WILL NOT GET HEALTHCARE AT ALL.

AND WHAT WILL BE REALLY GREAT IS THAT THE SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND WILL BE NOW SOLVENT BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE WILL DIE SINCE MENTAL HEALTH WILL NOT BE COVERED.

>> FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS ALARMIST TALK.

PREEXISTING CONDITIONS WILL BE COVERED.

THE FACT THAT THEY ARE TAKING AWAY THE FEDERAL MANDATE AND MOVING THE STUFF TO THE STATES AND BE STATE-BASED.

>> THE KISESSER FAMILY HEALTH SERVICE FOUND THAT, INDEED, THE $8 BILLION THAT REPUBLICANS CAME UP WITH TO COVER -- >> AND THE.

>> WILL PUT MORE IN.

>> WAIT A MINUTE.

BUT THIS IS WHAT THE HOUSE VOTED ON NOT WHAT THE SENATE IS DOING THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE BODIES.

WHY WOULD EVANGELICALS DRIVING THIS BECAUSE THEY CONTROL THE PARTY NOW AND THE PRESIDENT IS REWARDING THEM FOR THEIR VOTES, WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO NOT COVER MATERNITY CARE?

I DON'T GET.

WE WILL TAKE AWAY BIRTH CONTROL AND ABORTION RIGHTS AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A BABY YOU WILL HAVE TO SPEND $17,000 THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH MATERNITY CARE.

>> I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION ON THIS.

BUT THE POINT IS: IF THEY DO DETERMINE THE $8 BILLION IS NOT MUST HAVE THEY WILL PUT MORE IN.

>> IT'S BEEN DETERMINED.

THEY DID NOT DO COSTS ON THE BILL.

>> AGAIN, BEFORE THE SENATE GETS TO IT IT WILL BE CHANGED.

THE BILL IS NOT FINAL.

THERE'S SEVERAL STEPS.

>> BUT -- >> AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THE PRESIDENT MANDATED.

HE WANTS PREEXISTING COVERAGE.

WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN WILL HAPPEN AND THE OTHER THING THE 24 MILLION THEY ARE NOT BEING THROWN OFF THEY WILL BE GIVEN DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

THAT, AGAIN, IS ALARMIST DEMOCRAT TALKING POINTS THAT THEY PUT OUT THERE AND KEEP REPEATING.

>> THEY WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CURRENT SYSTEM BUT THEY WILL HAVE OPTIONS, PROBABLY LOWER COSTS TO COME BACK IN.

DO NOT MAKE IT SOUND LIKE PEOPLE WILL BE CUTTING OFF FROM HAVING ANY INSURANCE THAT IS NOT TRUE.

THEY HAD ACCESS TO INSURANCE AND NOT ACCESS TO CARE BUT THEY HAD SUCH HIGH DEDUCTIBLES THEY COULD THAT USE THEIR CARD.

>> THIS IS NOT DEMOCRATS TALKING THIS IS THE REPUBLICAN APPOINTED CBO TALKING.

>> AND THEY GOT IT WRONG ON OBAMACARE.

ALL THEIR PROJECTIONS WERE OFF.

WE DO NOT BELIEVE THEM.

CANNOT GO BY THEM.

>> BECAUSE I COVERED THE HOUSE IN THE MID-TO LATE 80s AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN LEGISLATION PASSED THAT WHERE THE CHAMBER THAT PASSES IT IS COUNTING ON THE OTHER CHAMBER TO FIX IT.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT.

IT'S UNPRECEDENTED PRIOR TO THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.

AND THEY DID NOT COST IT OUT.

THEY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S REALLY GOING TO COST.

THIS IS CRAZY.

>> THEY DO HAVE COSTING ON IT BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE FINAL CBO COSTS BUT AGAIN, THEIR TRACK RECORD IS NOT GREAT.

IT KILLS ME BECAUSE THESE THINGS GET REPEATED AS IF THEY ARE TRUE AND PEOPLE DO NOT LOOK TO SEE WHAT IT MEANS.

PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE DENIED HEALTHCARE AND THEY ARE NOT BEING THROWN OUT OF THE SYSTEM.

THEY CAN COME BACK IN AND KEEP THEIR DOCTOR AND GET THE PLAN AND KEEP THE PLAN THEY WANT.

>> THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT ACCESS AND A QUESTION ABOUT COST.

I HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE I HAVE ALL MY CAREER.

AND I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN AFFORD IT AND AFFORD PROCEDURES THAT YOU NEED.

>> WHAT ABOUT HER POINT UNDER OBAMACARE THE DEDUCTIBLES WENT SO HIGH LIKE FOR HOSPITAL CARE, $10,000 I'VE HEARD OF THAT THAT IS A BARRIER TO POOR PEOPLE CREATED BY OBAMACARE.

>> YES.

AND THERE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO FIX.

THAT IS A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING THIS IS NOT THE WAY.

THE MESSAGE WE ARE SENDING CLEARLY IS IN ADDITION I SHOULD SAY, TOO, ADDING PREEXISTING CONDITIONS.

BUT THE IDEAS OF THINGS YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVOR POINTS AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN -- SOMEONE RAPED IS GOING TO BE -- >> WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

>> WILL BE IN A SPECIAL CATEGORY.

THESE ARE MESSAGES THAT WOMEN AND WORKING PEOPLE AND WORKING POOR AND PEOPLE ARE HEARING THAT -- >> SCARING THEM.

>> I AM NOT GOING TO BE LOOKED AFTER.

THIS IS NOT AN ADMINISTRATION THAT CARES ABOUT ME OR MY NEEDS.

AND YOU ARE RIGHT, THEY ARE SCARED.

>> BUT IT IS NOT THE TRUTH OF WHAT IS IN THE BILL AND IT IS ALARMISM BEING PUT OUT THERE.

>> THE BILL IS AN ALARMIST BILL.

>> THE AARP, THE AMA AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE -- >> CHAMBER LIKES THE BILL.

>> THEY LIKE IT NOW.

>> I MEAN GOING BACK TO MY FIRST POINT IS THAT IT IS A DISTRACTION FROM THE OTHER NEWS IN HEALTHCARE THAT IS GOING ON.

WE ARE SEEING HEALTHCARE INSURERS PULLING OUT OF MARKETS AND IN TENNESSEE 16 COUNTIES THEY WILL HAVE NO OBAMACARE INSURANCE TO OFFER THEIR CUSTOMERS.

SO OBAMACARE WAS FAILING.

BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A TRUE MARKET-BASED SOLUTION.

NOW CONSERVATIVES TRIED TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PERFECT AND WE AGREE BUT THEY ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON IT.

>> WAS IT FAILING?

>> WELL, IT FAILS WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION SAYS TO PEOPLE DON'T SIGN UP.

IN OTHER WORDS YOU HAVE TO HAVE -- LIKE THE POLICE.

YOU CAN SAY A POLICE FORCE IS FAILING IF THE CHIEF OF POLICE SAYS DON'T GO INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROTECT YOU.

>> THAT WOULD BE TRUE WITH OBAMACARE IF WE LOOK OUTPRESIDENT OBAMA TRIED TO GET MY GENERATION TO SIGN UP AND FAILED BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZED THAT DEAL FOR WHAT IT IS.

>> IT WAS WORKING AND WHEN TRUMP CAME IN AND SAID IT WAS GOING TO FAIL.

IN OTHER WORDS IT WORKS UNTIL YOU HAVE A NEW -- [ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> IT WAS ALREADY ON ITS WAY OUT.

[ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> ONE AT A TIME.

>> THE PROBLEM IS YOU HAD AN ADMINISTRATION SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO FUND THE HELP THAT IS NEEDED.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE ADVERTISING THAT IS NEEDED.

AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE THE MANDATES.

IF YOU HAD AN ADMINISTRATION THAT IS UNDERCUTTING OBAMACARE OF COURSE IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

>> IF HEALTHCARE INDIANA SURERS -- INSURERS WERE PULLING OUT IT'S NOT WORKING.

>> LAST POINT.

>> WE CAN DISAGREE ABOUT THE OBAMACARE THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL IS TERRIBLE.

>> IT'S NOT FINISHED!

>> AND SEVERAL REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AGREE THAT WE CAN DO BETTER FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

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FROM HEALTHCARE TO COMP TIME.

IT DOESN'T SOUND CONTROVERSIAL BUT "THE WORKING FAMILIES FLEXIBILITY ACT" IS STIRRING UP CONTROVERSY.

THE BILL WHICH PASSED IN THE HOUSE THIS WEEK ALLOWS PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYERS TO OFFER COMPENSATION TIME IN LIEU OF OVERTIME PAY TO THEIR HOURLY WORK FORCE.

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTS THE BILL WHICH WAS SPONSORED BY ALABAMA REPRESENTATIVE MARTHA ROBY.

PROPONENTS SAY IT HELPS WORKERS AND COMPANIES RESPOND TO THE FLEXIBILITY THAT IS BECOMING MORE COMMON - AND DEMANDED - IN TODAY'S WORKPLACE.

THE VOTE WAS LARGELY ALONG PARTY LINES, WITH NO DEMOCRATS AND SIX REPUBLICANS VOTING AGAINST THE BILL.

OPPONENTS SAY WHILE THE BILL SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA, THERE ARE NUMEROUS EXAMPLES OF THE POLICY IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR CHEATING WORKERS OUT OF MONEY AND TIME.

DEMOCRATS ON THE SENATE SIDE SAY THEIR MAIN CONCERN IS EMPLOYERS HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON WHEN COMP TIME CAN BE USED, SO THEY CAN DEFER COMPENSATING EMPLOYEES FOR OVERTIME WORK.

SO GOOD BILL?

BAD BILL?

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD THAT I AGREE WITH IS THIS IS A FALSE DICHOTOMY.

THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE EITHER COMP TIME OR GET PAID OVERTIME IS JUST NOT REALLY WHERE PEOPLE ARE.

THIS IDEA THIS IS ALSO SOMEHOW FLEXIBILITY FOR EMPLOYEES IS JUST NOT NAMED.

THIS IS FLEXIBILITY FOR EMPLOYERS BY FAR AND WE KNOW THIS IS JUST ONE WAY -- >> WHAT DO YOU SEE AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO COMP?

>> PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAID OVERTIME.

THIS IDEA THAT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A CHOICE NOT TO PAY SOMEBODY AND THAT THAT DECISION IS GOING TO BE A NEGOTIATION, BETWEEN EMPLOYERS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES, IS JUST NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE REALITIES OF EVERYDAY WORKERS' LIVES.

WORKERS ARE NAVIGATING WAGE THEFT, ISSUES OF TIME ACCURACY, NOT GETTING PAID SICK LEAVE.

THIS IDEA THIS IS GOING TO BE A SEAMLESS OPTION THAT WILL BENEFIT FOLKS BECAUSE THEY NEED MORE FLEXIBILITY IS NOT BASED IN REALITY.

>> YOU RUN A BUSINESS, WOULD IT HELP YOU?

>> I RUN SEVERAL BUSINESSES.

WE WERE DOING THIS STUFF, GIVING PEOPLE FRIDAY AFTERNOONS OFF, YOU KNOW, HAVING FLEX TIME ESPECIALLY FOR WOMEN WORKERS.

COMP TIME VERSUS OVERTIME.

OVERTIME IS SOMETHING FOR A SMALL BUSINESS WE CAN'T AFFORD.

COMP TIME IS SOMETHING WE CAN WORK AROUND AND THE WORKERS LOVED IT.

LOVED IT.

>> IN THE BILL ARE THERE LIMITS HOW LONG AN EMPLOYER CAN TAKE TO GIVE THE COMP TIME TO SOMEBODY?

>> THAT WOULD BE USEFUL AND FINE BUT IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THEY COULD TAKE IT COMP TIME AS SOMETHING WHERE THEY TOOK TIME OFF OR AGREE TO GET PAID AT SOME POINT BUT THEY LOVED IT.

IT MADE IT FLEXIBLE AND GOOD ESPECIALLY FOR THE FREE MAIL EMPLOYEES WE HAD HAD.

>> I THINK FOR WOMEN STUDIES SHOW WHEN YOU ARE YOUNGER IN YOUR CAREER YOU ARE A SALARY MAXIMIZING BUT REACHING THAT AGE OF WANTING TO START A FAMILY YOU ARE FLEXIBILITY MAXIMIZER.

WOMEN ARE WILLING TO TRADE UP TO $10,000 FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY.

I SEE THIS AS A WAY TO ENSURE NOT JUST GOVERNMENT DRIVING THAT RELATIONSHIP BUT IT CAN BE THE EMPLOYER AND THE EMPLOYEE TOGETHER.

>> WHAT ABOUT TO THE POINT THAT IT SHOULD BE A GEORGE EIGHTHS BETWEEN THE EMPLOYER -- NEGOTIATION BETWEEN THE EMPLOYER AND THE EMPLOYEE NOT GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION AND THAT OVERTIME SHOULD BE PART OF THE ONE OF THE THREE OPTIONS?

>> I MEAN THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ALLOWING OVERTIME TO BE AN OPTION.

THE BILL IS SAYING THERE ARE LOTS OF OPTIONS AND THE EMPLOYERS RECOGNIZE THE TOOLS.

>> DOESN'T IT PRECLUDE OVERTIME?

>> TWO THINGS I WILL SAY.

UNDER OBAMA WE TRIED TO EXPAND OVERTIME TO MILLIONS OF WORKERS AND IT GOT TIED UP IN COURT AND DOUBLE THE THRESHOLD FOR SALARIED WORKERS AND WHEN THE ACT WAS PASSED, ALMOST TWO-THIRDS OF THE WORKFORCE WERE ELIGIBLE FOR OVERTIME AND NOW IT'S 6%.

THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE WORKING 40 PLUS HOURS AT THE BEHEST AND OFTENTIMES OF THEIR BOSS AND SAYING, BY THE WAY, YOU MAY NOT GET PAID FOR THAT IS A PROBLEM.

IF YOU NEED MORE WORK YOU HAVE TO PASS IT ON TO A PART-TIME WORKER.

BUT THE IDEA THAT I WILL BE EXPECTED TO WORK 50 HOURS ONE WEEK AND I WILL NOT GET PAID AND I MIGHT NEED THE TIME OR MIGHT NOT IS TAKING US IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

MORE PEOPLE NEED MORE OVERTIME PAY, NOT LESS.

>> 47% OF AMERICANS CANNOT FIND $400 IN AN EMERGENCY.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE MONEY, $10,000.

MANY AMERICANS DO NOT HAVE THAT TYPE OF MONEY.

WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE THE LIVING STANDARDS OF SO MANY AMERICANS.

LET'S TRY TO DO THAT.

>> WE KNOW, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, WE KNOW THAT WOMEN WITH TWO-THIRDS ON THE MINIMUM WAGE.

SO IS THIS A BILL THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT WOMEN MORE THAN MEN BECAUSE IT WILL AFFECT LOWER INCOME WORKERS?

>> WELL, IT COULD.

CERTAINLY WE KNOW THAT WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE PAID MINIMUM WAGE, A LARGE SWATH OF PRIVATE SECTOR -- SERVICE SECTOR WORKERS SOME CASES WE HAVE A HUGE ENVIRONMENTABLE POPULATION WE DID NOT HAVE IN THE 60s INCLUDING IMMIGRANT WORKERS AND OTHER FOLKS WHO DO NO HAVE ANY NEGOTIATION POWER.

AND THEIR JOB IS USUALLY HANGING IN THE BALANCE.

THE IDEA ONE MORE THING THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE ON YOURSELF.

IS A BIT MUCH.

AND ALSO THERE ARE SEVERAL STATES WHERE THIS -- THE IDEA THAT YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WORKING MAKING $30,000 A YEAR AND YOU ARE SAYING TO THEM, YOU CAN GET THOSE EXTRA HOURS IN BEFORE HOLIDAY OR BEFORE YOU GO ON VACATION AND WE ARE TALKING THAT BACK NOW SAYING YOUR ABILITY TO WORK MORE AND GET MORE MONEY IS A NEGOTIATION.

>> YOU MISSED A KEY POINT THAT SHE RAISED.

THE REASON FEWER PEOPLE QUALIFY FOR OVERTIME IS TIED TO OBAMACARE.

BECAUSE WHEN OBAMACARE WENT IN EMPLOYERS CUT A LOT OF HOURS FOR PEOPLE KEPT PEOPLE BELOW THE THRESHOLD WHERE THEY WOULD NOT REACH THE CAPABILITY TO MAKE OVERTIME.

>> THE THRESHOLD IS RELATED TO -- >> HOW MANY HOURS THEY WORK.

>> THE THRESHOLD IS ON SALARIED WORKERS THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED TO INCREASE.

SO IT -- THESE POLICIES AND THERE ARE SO MANY LABOR POLICIES WE NEED TO UPDATE THEY WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT WORKERS.

WE DID NOT KEEP UP WITH THE SALARY INCREASES.

AND THE IDEA THAT 20 YEARS AGO SOMEONE WORKING FOR $20,000 VERSUS NOW IS A HUGE DIFFERENT.

>> BUT THE OBAMACARE TAX AFFECTED EACH BUSINESS TO THE POINT WHERE THEY COULD NOT AFFORD THE OVERTIME.

>> WE ARE OUT OF TIME.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.

AND FROM WORKING WOMEN TO WOMEN IN THE HOUSE... IVANKA TRUMP AND HILLARY CLINTON ARE BOTH IN THE NEWS AGAIN, AND SOME COMMENTATORS ARE SAYING THE TWO ARE MORE ALIKE THAN YOU MAY THINK.

TRUMP'S NEW BOOK, "WOMEN WHO WORK" IS A BEST SELLER, THOUGH SHE HAS BEEN CRITICIZED AS BEING OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE COMMON WORKING WOMAN.

SHE HAS BEEN GIVEN AN OFFICIAL POST AT THE WHITE HOUSE THOUGH QUESTIONS REMAIN OVER HOW MUCH INFLUENCE SHE HAS OVER THE PRESIDENT, AND ABOUT POSSIBLE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST INVOLVING HER BUSINESSES.

MEANWHILE, THE ELECTION WAS BROUGHT BACK INTO FOCUS BY FBI DIRECTOR JAMES COMEY.

HE REFLECTED ABOUT HIS CONTROVERSIAL DECISION TO PUBLICLY REVEAL DETAILS OF THEIR ONGOING INVESTIGATION INTO CLINTON'S USE OF A PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER, SAYING HE HAD NO GOOD CHOICES.

CLINTON, FOR HER PART, SAID SHE WOULD BE PRESIDENT HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR COMEY'S ANNOUNCEMENT JUST 11 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

POLLING DATA SHOWS CLINTON'S LEAD VANISHED AFTER COMEY'S LATE ANNOUNCEMENT.

>> THAT WAS EXACTLY THE TIME THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS IN HIS WORST TROUBLE BECAUSE THE ACCESS HOLLYWOOD TAPES HAD COME OUT.

12 WOMEN HAD COME FORWARD ACCUSING HIM OF SEXUAL GROPING AND ASSAULT.

AND THEN JAMES COMEY CAME OUT AND MOVED EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION AWAY FROM DONALD TRUMP WHOSE POLLS WERE SINKING BACK ONTO HILLARY'S EMAILS.

>> WITH BOTH WOMEN MAKING HEADLINES, ONE COLUMN IN NEWSWEEK ARGUES THAT TRUMP AND CLINTON SHARE SIMILAR STYLES: THEY BOTH WORKED BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE WHITE HOUSE DUE TO A FAMILY CONNECTION.

BOTH ARE CRITICIZED FOR BEING OBLIVIOUS TO ETHICS CHALLENGES.

SO ARE THEY MORE ALIKE THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD THINK?

>> NO.

I MEAN THEY SHARE A FEW ISSUES THAT THEY AGREE ON AND YES THEY HAVE ADVANTAGES BECAUSE SHE HAD THE HUSBAND AND IVANKA HAD THE FATHER.

AND IVANKA HAD BETTER TASTE AND MARRIED SOMEONE FAITHFUL TO HER AND SHE HAS A SOLID RECORD OF BISH BUSINESS ACCOMPLISHMENTS ON HER OWN.

>> DO YOU THINK AS SUSAN SAID THE AUTHOR WE INTERVIEWED AND AS SECRETARY CLINTON SAID THIS WEEK THAT COMEY COST HER THE ELECTION?

>> I THINK IT'S BETTER TO LOOK FORWARD AND NOT LOOK BACK IS MY VIEW AND THAT IS WHAT -- >> AND SHE GOT IN TROUBLE SHE WAS ASKED WHO SHE BLAMED HER LOSS ON INSTEAD OF SAYING I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HELPING MORE WOMEN RUN, SHE GOT INTO IT.

>> HILLARY CLINTON HAS DONE A LOT FOR WOMEN AND A LOT ON HEALTHCARE AND WORKING FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN DURING HER CAREER.

AND I THINK SHE SHOULD BE PROUD OF WHAT SHE HAS ACCOMPLISHED AND STILL HAS A LOT TO OFFER IN THE PUBLIC ARENA.

AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT SHE CAN DO.

>> SHE SAID SHE IS NOT GOING TO RUN AGAIN.

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK -- I WROTE HER AND SAID THAT JOHN QUINCY ADAMS WAS A TERRIFIC CONGRESSMAN AFTER PRESIDENT HE WENT BACK INTO CONGRESSMAN AND FOUGHT VERY HARD FOR ABOLITION AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A WONDERFUL MODEL.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE PRESIDENT AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE GOVERNOR YOU CAN STILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN PUBLIC LIFE.

>> GOING BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION -- >> OR GET APPOINTED TO THE SUPREME COURT.

>> IF THIS IS A TACTIC TO TRY TO TAKE SHINE AWAY FROM EYE EYE CANADA TRUMP MAYBE THAT IS A GOOD STRATEGY.

THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT WOMEN AND IVANKA REPRESENTS OUR GENERATION WELL AND MAYBE THE LEFT SEES IT AS A WAY TO TURN IT INTO AN ACHILLES HEEL BY COMPARING HER TO HILLARY CLINTON WHICH OUR GENERATION DID NOT LIKE MUCH.

>> IT'S DANGEROUS TERRITORY TO COMPARE ON THE POLICY END.

I THINK IT'S NICE AS SHE IS, THIS IDEA THAT WE HAVE A STAUNCH ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN AND WORKING FAMILIES IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF US IS, I THINK, FALSE HOPE.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID IVANKA IS THERE WE WILL BE OK. AND THIS IDEA THAT HILLARY CLINTON HAD A TIME TESTED CAREER BEFORE SHE GOT THERE PUTTING THAT ASIDE FOR I ASECOND, I THINK THERE'S STILL A LOT TO BE SAID AND SEEN FROM IVANKA WHAT SHE IS GOING TO DO BUT SO FAR, THE ISSUES OF TODAY AND THIS GOVERNMENT AND THE AMERICANS, I FRANKLY DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE IS.

>> AND IVANKA'S BOOK WE SHOULD SAY WHICH CAME OUT THIS WEEK IS ALREADY A "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST-SELLER.

WHY SHOULD WOMEN, THE AVERAGE WOMAN, WE'RE TALKING -- NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO RUN THEIR OWN MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES OR WHO INHERITED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS IF NOT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

WHY SHOULD ANYBODY LISTEN TO HER ADVICE?

>> I THINK THEY LOOK AND SEE SHE WAS ABLE TO ACHIEVE, YES SHE HAD ADVANTAGES BUT THEY CAN LOOK FOR THE NUGGETS IN THE BOOK AS TO WHAT COULD PERTAIN TO THEIR LIFE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT BUSINESS BOOKS.

CHERYL SANDBURG, I WAS A FAN OF LEAN IN.

AND THEY SAY IT DID NOT APPLY TO THIS OR THAT GROUP AND THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF THAT WAS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

YOU LOOK WHAT YOU CAN APPLY.

>> THAT'S IT.

AND WHETHER YOU AGREE OR THINK TO THE CONTRARY, SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

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