>> SO WHAT WOULD FOX NEWS MAKE OF PRISONER REHABILITATION?

NEXT WE TURN TO THE CHANCE FOR SOME IN THE BELEAGUERED U.S. PRISON SYSTEM TO BE DEFINED BY MORE THAN JUST THEIR CRIMES.

A NEW DOCUMENTARY "26.2 TO LIFE" IS GOING BEHIND THE BARBED WIRE TO CAPTURE THE INFAMOUS SAN QUENTIN PRISON'S RUNNING CLUB.

THEY HOLD AN ANNUAL MARATHON WITH PARTICIPANTS COMPLETING 105 LAPS AROUND THE CROWDED YARD.

AND THE DIRECTOR CHRISTINE YOO AS WELL AS A MEMBER OF THE 1,000 MILE CLUB TALKED WITH HARI SREENIVASAN.

>> CHRISTIANE, THANKS.

CHRISTINE, YOU AND MARKELLE, THE GAZELLE TAYLOR, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

CHRISTINE, LET ME START WITH YOU.

WHAT GAVE YOU THE IDEA TO PROFILE RUNNERS INSIDE SAN >> MORE THAN 20 YEARS AGO, I -- MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRISON SYSTEM STARTED THEN.

I HAD A FRIEND WHO WAS ALSO A FELLOW KOREAN AMERICAN WHO WAS WRONGFULLY CONVICTED IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND HE WAS SENTENCED TO 271 YEARS IN PRISON.

KNOWING THAT BASICALLY HE WOULD BE SPENDING THE REST OF HIS LIVING DAYS IN THE PRISON, IT REALLY, OF COURSE, IMPACTED ME DEEPLY, AND I STARTED TO WONDER, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES LIFE ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE?

HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY CREATE A LIFE IN PRISON?

>> YEAH.

>> SO WHEN I HAPPENED UPON THIS MAGAZINE ARTICLE ABOUT THE MARATHON AT SAN QUENTIN, IT IMMEDIATELY FOR WHATEVER REASON, CAPTURED MY IMAGINATION.

I'M NOT A MARATHONER, BUT I DO KNOW THAT RUNNING CAN CREATE A SENSE OF FREEDOM.

IT CERTAINLY DOES THAT FOR ME.

IT SOLVES MY PROBLEMS WHEN I DO THAT, SO I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE A MARATHON BEING A METAPHOR FOR LIFE IN PRISON.

>> EVERYBODY THAT'S RUNNING, START LINING UP.

>> IT'S GAME TIME.

>> THREE, TWO, ONE, GO!

♪♪ >> GO GET 'EM.

>> IT'S A COMMUNITY NOW.

IF YOU CAN'T LIVE IN A COMMUNITY IN HERE, YOU CAN'T LIVE IN A COMMUNITY OUT THERE.

>> WHY SHOULD THEY LET ME OUT?

BECAUSE I'VE CHANGED.

♪♪ >> TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JUST THE CONDITIONS OF SHOOTING A STORY INSIDE SAN QUENTIN?

I MEAN, IT'S A BIG UNDERTAKING FOR EVEN THE PRISON SYSTEM TO AGREE TO THIS.

>> YEAH, I'M AN INDEPENDENT FILMMAKER AND THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

WHO DO YOU CALL, YOU KNOW, PRISON IS NOT THE KIND OF PLACE THAT YOU CAN LEAVE A VOICE MAIL AND THEY'RE GOING TO CALL YOU SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DECIDED TO EMBARK UPON THIS JOURNEY, IT DID TAKE ABOUT NINE MONTHS JUST TO REALLY FIGURE OUT WHO TO -- YOU KNOW, THE MATRIX OF THE BUREAUCRACY SO TO SPEAK.

WE FINALLY DID SPEAK WITH THE RIGHT PERSON, AND THEY DID GRANT US THAT PERMISSION, BUT I WILL SAY THIS THAT EVERY TIME WE SHOT IN THERE, THERE WAS NO GUARANTEE THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET ANOTHER TIME TO SHOOT.

SO TIME WAS ALWAYS VERY LIMITED AND OVER TIME, I MEAN, IT TOOK SEVERAL YEARS TO DO THIS, WE -- YOU KNOW, IT WAS A MATTER OF GAINING TRUST AND THEM KNOWING THAT I WAS REALLY HERE TO EXPLORE LIFE INSIDE AND THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE.

IT WASN'T NECESSARILY LIKE A CRITIQUE ON THE PRISON SYSTEM.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S FOR PEOPLE TO DECIDE ON THEIR OWN AFTER THEY WATCH THIS.

>> SO MARKELLE, WE SHOULD LET OUR AUDIENCE KNOW YOU ARE -- HAVE BEEN RECENTLY RELEASED AFTER SERVING 18 YEARS, AND I WANT TO ASK, WHAT MADE YOU WANT I MEAN, HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THIS THOUSAND MILE CLUB AS IT'S NO SECRET IN THE FILM, YOU'RE KIND OF THE FASTEST GUY IN THERE.

WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO DO THIS?

>> A FRIEND OF MINE WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE WHO I WAS VERY CLOSE TO AND THE GUY, I'M NOT GOING TO PUT HIS NAME OUT THERE.

HE HAD DONE LIKE 20 SOME YEARS AND THIS WAS LIKE HIS FOURTH OR FIFTH BOARD HEARING AND HE GOT DENIED, AND HE HUNG HIMSELF.

SO THE FOLLOWING YEAR WAS MY TURN TO DO THE SAME THING, GO TO THE BOARD AND PRESENT MY CASE SO I CAN TRY TO GET OUT, AND I WAS LIKE, MAN, I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE THAT, AND THERE'S ALREADY STRESSES AND ANXIETIES AND FEARS INSIDE ALREADY.

SO HOPEFULLY I HAVE A BETTER SHOT, BUT IF NOT I DON'T WANT TO END UP LIKE THAT JUST IN CASE I GET DENIED.

SO THAT'S HOW I STARTED RUNNING.

RUNNING OPENED EVERYTHING UP COMPLETELY, AND I WAS ABLE TO SEE A LOT BETTER AND MORE CLEARER.

I WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUSED SO THAT ALLOWED ME TO HAVE THAT MENTAL FREENESS BEFORE EVEN GETTING RELEASED FROM PRISON.

>> WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE TAKING TURN AFTER TURN AFTER TURN INSIDE A PRISON COMPLEX WALL, YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY PRISONERS WHO ARE WALKING ACROSS THE PATH, SO TO SPEAK, NOT NECESSARILY THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ON YOUR WORKOUT.

WHAT'S GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND?

>> FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I GOT THE IDEA OF MY PURPOSE OF RUNNING FROM FORREST GUMP, THE MOVIE FORREST GUMP, AND HE RAN FOR A PURPOSE, SO THAT WAS MY THING.

I WASN'T ENVISIONING I WAS OUTSIDE.

I WAS ENVISIONING THAT I WAS CARRYING EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE I VICTIMIZED IN MY LIFETIME, PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING AND SUFFERING FROM THEIR OWN MENTAL IMPRISONMENT.

PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH CANCER OR DIABETES OR WHATEVER SUFFERING WITH, I'M THERE FOR THEM TO REPRESENT THEM AND RUN FOR THEM, EVEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED IN MY LIFETIME AND MY OWN PERSONAL VICTIMS AND THE PEOPLE I HARMED AND HURT.

EVERYBODY I'M CARRYING ALONG WITH ME AND I'M RUNNING FOR THEM.

>> CHRISTINE, TELL ME ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU HAD OF HOW YOU PERCEIVED PRISON LIFE TO BE EVEN THE NON-RUNNING PORTIONS VERSUS MAYBE WHAT THESE MEMBERS OF THE CLUB, THESE CHARACTERS THAT YOU WERE PROFILING WERE DESCRIBING TO YOU?

>> I HAD CERTAIN PERCEPTIONS OF WHAT PRISON AND PEOPLE IN PRISON WERE LIKE.

FALSE IMPRESSIONS REALLY, AND AS I GOT TO KNOW PEOPLE MOVING THROUGH THOSE SPACES, I REALIZED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF US OUT HERE.

YOU KNOW, THE POPULAR MEDIA, OF COURSE, TRUE CRIME DOESN'T DO US ANY FAVORS IN DESCRIBING WHAT THESE HUMAN BEINGS ARE ACTUALLY LIKE.

CRIMES.

THEY ARE THREE DIMENSIONAL PEOPLE WITH GOALS AND DREAMS AND FAMILIES, BUT WHAT I WAS REALLY INTERESTED IN THE STORY OF THE THOUSAND MILE CLUB IS IN THE FACE OF WHAT SEEMS LIKE OVERWHELMING SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS, THIS IS A STORY OF HOPE.

THIS IS A STORY OF TRANSFORMATION, AND REALLY COACH FRANK RONA, HE TOOK HIS PASSION FOR LONG DISTANCE RUNNING, CREATED COMMUNITY AROUND THAT.

THAT HAS HAD A RIPPLE EFFECT, YOU KNOW, BEYOND THE WALLS OF THE PRISON.

>> TYPICALLY I DON'T QUESTION ANY OF THE INMATES ABOUT THEIR CRIME.

IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER MUCH TO ME WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

WHAT MATTERS TO ME IS WHAT ARE THEY DOING NOW AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO IN THE FUTURE.

>> KRISTINE, MARKELLE IS JUST ONE OF THE CHARACTERS THAT YOU PROFILE.

LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.

START WITH TOMMY WICKARD.

>> TOMMY WICKARD, FORMER NAZI WHITE SUPREMACIST GANG MEMBER WHO HAS, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS HE WAS A SERIAL CRIMINAL.

BUT BEING AN ASIAN AMERICAN FEMALE, I CAN DEFINITELY ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT THOSE DAYS ARE BEHIND HIM, YOU KNOW.

AND FURTHER THE DATA DOES SHOW THAT AS PEOPLE BECOME OLDER, THEY DO AGE OUT OF CRIME, BUT I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN PROFIING TOMMY BECAUSE HIS STORY REALLY SHOWS THE STRUGGLES OF NAVIGATING BEING A FATHER AND A HUSBAND FROM PRISON, AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO HIS FAMILY FOR OPENING UP THEIR LIVES TO US SO THAT WE CAN GET A PEEK INTO WHAT THOSE STRUGGLES REALLY ARE.

>> SHE'S LIKE MARRY ME.

I WAS LIKE MARRY ME?

I'M PROBABLY NEVER COMING HOME.

>> I CAN UNDERSTAND THE LAWS ARE THE LAWS, BUT I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE MAD AT MY DAD.

NO ONE'S GOING TO TAKE THAT FROM ME.

I KNOW HE FEELS SORRY, BUT TELL ME THEN BECAUSE I SHARE MY TO HIS SON.

>> SO MARKELLE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I CAN SEE SOMEBODY WATCHING THIS AND SAYING WHY ARE ALL KINDS OF THESE PROGRAMS INSIDE PROGRAM.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE TO BE PUNISHED, WHY SHOULD PRISONERS HAVE ACCESS TO THINGS LIKE THIS?

>> BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE SMART WAY TO DO THAT BECAUSE IF NOT, IT WILL BE EITHER AGAINST EACH OTHER OR TOWARDS THE CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS OR BOTH.

IT'S ALREADY A VERY DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENT.

SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO GET GUYS FOCUSED ON OTHER THINGS INSTEAD OF ON EACH OTHER.

TO DO THAT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THESE PROGRAMS TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY COME FROM, WHY THEY ACTED OUT THE WAY THEY ACTED OUT AND WHAT CAN GET THEM TO THAT PLACE WHERE THEY CAN BE A DECENT HUMAN BEING AGAIN AND FIND THEMSELVES, AND FIND THEIR AUTHENTIC SELVES TO BE ABLE TO HELPFUL HUMAN BEING THAT THEY ALWAYS WAS MEANT TO BE.

WITHOUT THESE PROGRAMS AND WITHOUT THIS RUNNING COMMUTE AND WITHOUT THIS RUNNING CLUB, I THINK SOCIETY OUTSIDE AND INSIDE OF PRISON WILL BE A VERY DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENT.

>> I'LL ADD TO THAT FOR A SECOND BECAUSE THE DATA SHOWS THAT 90% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN PRISON DO EVENTUALLY FIND THEIR WAY OUT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE WANT TO HAVE PROGRAMS IN PRISON SO THAT PEOPLE WON'T RESID VISE.

FOR THE MEMBERS WHO HAVE GOTTEN OUT THERE IS A 0% RECIDIVISM RATE, COMPARED TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IN THE U.S. AFTER FIVE YEARS, 67%.

SO OBVIOUSLY THE RUNNING PROGRAM AND A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE -- YOU KNOW, IT'S DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.

IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND IT IS A MATTER OF NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE DO ENGAGE IN REHABILITATION >> WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE STRUCTURAL OBSTACLES FROM IMPLEMENTING A PROGRAM LIKE THIS ELSEWHERE?

>> I THINK IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE CULTURE OF HOW WE INCARCERATE PEOPLE.

YOU KNOWS THERE'S -- OBVIOUSLY THE CULTURE OF OVER POLICING AND THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE POPULATION, AND FOR THAT REASON, THAT IS WHY WE ARE ON A MISSION TO GO TO DIFFERENT PRISONS TO SCREEN THE FILM, TO HAVE A PLAT -- WE'LL CREATE A PLATFORM FOR DISCUSSION.

TO MEET WITH THE ADMINISTRATIONS SO WE ARE -- HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF INVITATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE STATE OF NORTH DAKOTA, THEY LET US KNOW THAT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LOCKED UP IN THAT STATE ARE THERE DUE TO DRUG-RELATED OFFENSES.

SO THE IDEA OF REPLACING AN ADDICTIVE HIGH WITH MAYBE A SO-CALLED RUNNER'S HIGH IS -- IS WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT RUNNING IS GOING TO SOLVE THE MASS INCARCERATION PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY, OKAY?

WE DON'T WANT TO OVER SIMPLIFY IT.

BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT WHEN I DID TALK WITH A LOT OF THE GUYS, THEY WILL SAY THAT WHEN THEY CAN COMPLETE FIVE MILES, YOU KNOW, SUDDENLY THEY HAVE THIS NEW CONFIDENCE.

THEY CAN THEN, OH, I CAN COMPLETE MY GED.

OH, I CAN, YOU KNOW, NOW I CAN DEAL WITH RECONNECTING WITH MY FAMILY MEMBERS.

SO IT DOES SET OFF A CHAIN REACTION OF LIKE POSITIVE BEHAVIORS.

>> MARKELLE, I KNOW YOU SERVED 18 YEARS FOR SECOND DEGREE MURDER.

IF IT WASN'T FOR THESE PROGRAMS, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE THOUSAND MILE CLUB, IF I JUST PUT YOU IN PRISON, DIDN'T GIVE YOU ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE YEARS YOU WOULD HAVE HAD, BUT -- AND IF YOU HAD COME BACK OUT, WHAT WOULD BE MARKELLE TAYLOR THEN VERSUS THE MARKELLE TAYLOR THAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY?

>> MY LIFE THE WAY I WAS LIVING, I WAS SO MENTALLY SICK AND DISTRAUGHT THAT I OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN CONTINUED TO PUNISH MYSELF, ESPECIALLY FOR THE CRIME THAT I COMMITTED.

SO I COULD NEVER FORGIVE MY OWN SELF BECAUSE OF MY ADDICTION TO ALCOHOLISM BECAUSE I WAS MASKING MY ORIGINAL PAIN AND THE THINGS I WAS GOING THROUGH IN MY LIFE, I WAS OF VERY SAD AND UNHAPPY AND I WAS JUST MAKING ONE BAD DECISION AFTER ONE BAD DECISION BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY I WAS LIVING MY LIFE, YOU KNOW.

I THINK WITHOUT THESE PROGRAMS AND WITHOUT THE RUNNING CLUB, I PROBABLY WOULD STILL BE IN PRISON, AND I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE DIED BY NOW.

I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE MADE IT.

>> TO BE PATROLLED IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, ONE MUST PROVE TRANSFORMATION AND HAVE EVIDENCE OF TRANSFORMATION, SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PATHWAY TO PROVE TRANSFORMATION, SUCH AS GETTING AN EDUCATION, SUCH AS COMPLETING MARATHONS, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THESE HELP GROUPS, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, THERE ARE MORE OPPORTUNITIES THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN PRISON THAN THEY EVER HAD ON THE STREETS, YOU KNOW.

THEY HAD THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THEY WERE KIDS, YOU KNOW, WOULD THEY HAVE LANDED THERE?

THAT'S THE QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I TALK WITH IN PRISON JUST ANECDOTALLY, YOU LEARN VERY QUICKLY THAT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT CREATE SUCCESS FOR PEOPLE IN LIFE, ACCESS TO EDUCATION, SOME KIND OF FINANCIAL MEANS, SOME KIND OF MENTORSHIP OR FAMILY STRUCTURE, MOST PEOPLE IN PRISON JUST DON'T HAVE THAT.

OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE DID SOMETHING TO LAND THEMSELVES THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE AS A SOCIETY TOO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

YOU KNOW, WOULD PEOPLE BE THERE IF THEY DID HAVE ACCESS TO EDUCATION, IF FAMILY STRUCTURES WERE NOT BROKEN BECAUSE OF MULTIGENERATIONAL INCARCERATION.

THAT IS ALSO A BIG QUESTION, HOPEFULLY PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT THE FILM AND, YOU KNOW, THESE WALLS WILL TURN INTO WINDOWS AND PEOPLE CAN TAKE A LOOK, A BETTER LOOK AT LIFE INSIDE AND WHAT THAT REALLY ENTAILS.

>> SO MARKELLE, A COUPLE THINGS.

I MEAN, NOW THAT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE IN PRISONS THAT MIGHT BE SEEING THIS FILM, WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO TAKE AWAY FROM IT?

>> WHAT I WANT IS THEM TO BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES, TO KNOW THAT EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTED, THAT THEY ARE NOT THE WORST THING THEY EVER DONE AND THAT AS LONG AS THEY CAN STRIVE TOWARDS A REALITY THAT THEY KNOW THAT CAN FIT THEM LIKE -- AND I'M GOING TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE WITH RUNNING.

AS LONG AS I KNOW THAT I CAN MAINTAIN A SEVEN MINUTE MILE PACE AND TRAIN TOWARDS THAT AND COMPLETE THAT, THAT'S MORE REALISTIC THAN I CAN ACHIEVE EVEN HIGHER GOALS IF I PUT MY MIND TO IT AND JUST NEVER GIVE UP AND ALWAYS BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT YOUR WORST CRIME.

I AM NOT MY LIFE'S CRIME AND I AM A WONDERFUL BEAUTIFUL HUMAN BEING IS WHAT I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD TAKE OUT OF THAT.

>> AND MARKELLE, ALSO, LOOK, I AM -- I AM AN AMATEUR RUNNER COMPARED TO HOW YOU HAVE NOT ONLY QUALIFIED BUT FINISHED THE BOSTON MARATHON.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR YOU OR WHAT IT WAS LIKE FOR YOU TO FINISH THAT RACE?

>> THE EXPERIENCE, MY RUN IN BOSTON, HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT WAS A VERY HUMBLING, APPRECIATIVE SITUATION FOR ME TO WHERE I FELT LIKE A TOTAL SENSE OF FREEDOM AND JUST -- JUST REALLY, REALLY TRULY GRATEFUL TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

>> WHAT WAS IT LIKE WHEN YOU CROSSED FINISH LINE?

WHAT WENT THROUGH YOUR HEAD?

>> I MADE IT OUT OF PRISON.

IS I MADE IT OUT OF PRISON.

I DIDN'T EVEN -- THINGS WAS JUST SO FAST FOR ME AT THAT TIME BECAUSE IT WAS JUST NOT EVEN TWO MONTHS OUT OF PRISON.

IT WAS LIKE A MONTH AND SOME CHANGE WHEN I GOT OUT, AND IT WAS LIKE, MAN, I'M CROSSING THE FINISH LINE IN BOSTON.

IT WAS LIKE -- IT WAS SO LIKE -- I COULDN'T EVEN REALLY UNDERSTAND IT.

IT WAS JUST -- I JUST WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT JUST I SURVIVED, WHAT I WENT THROUGH IN PRISON AND GOT OUT AND HAD A SECOND CHANCE AT LIFE.

>> THE FILM IS CALLED "26.2 TO LIFE," FILMMAKER CHRISTINE YOO, AND THOUSAND MILE CLUB MEMBER ALUMNI AND MARATHONER, MARKELLE TAYLOR.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US.