
I Heart Louisville with Terry Meiners
Season 1 Episode 8 | 27m 24sVideo has Closed Captions
After nearly 50 years on radio, Terry Meiners reflects on a changing media landscape.
After nearly 50 years on radio, Terry Meiners reflects on a changing media landscape in this in-depth interview. We turn the tables on Louisville's talk-radio superstar and put him on the hot-seat to find out how he found his place in radio and TV, what makes him tick and why he keeps coming back for more after 38 years narrating Louisville's afternoon drive time. A 2023 KET production.
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I Heart Louisville with Terry Meiners
Season 1 Episode 8 | 27m 24sVideo has Closed Captions
After nearly 50 years on radio, Terry Meiners reflects on a changing media landscape in this in-depth interview. We turn the tables on Louisville's talk-radio superstar and put him on the hot-seat to find out how he found his place in radio and TV, what makes him tick and why he keeps coming back for more after 38 years narrating Louisville's afternoon drive time. A 2023 KET production.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> HELLO AND WELCOME TO INSIDE LOUISVILLE -- WHERE WE INTRODUCE YOU TO THE PEOPLE, PLACES AND THINGS THAT MAKE UP KENTUCKY'S LARGEST CITY.
I'M YOUR HOST, KELSEY STARKS.
HE'S BEEN CALLED A LOT OF THINGS...
BUT BORING ISN'T ONE OF THEM.
>> ALSO ON THE SHOW TODAY• WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ROAD DIET• WHERE YOU HAVE FOUR WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BROWNSBORO, SOME PEOPLE ARE CALLING IT RIDE SIZING ROADS WHERE YOU HAVE FOUR LANES, TWO GOING THIS WAY, TWO IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND SOMEONE DECIDES TO RIGHT SIZE THE ROAD BY MAKING IT ONE LANE GOING THIS WAY AND ONE LANE GOING THIS WAY WITH A CENTER TURNING LANE.
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE?
THE TURNING LANE?
IT MAKES THE RIGHT SIZE PERSON FEEL GOOD >> TERRY MEINERS HAS BEEN NARRATING LOUISVILLE'S DRIVE TIME ON TALK RADIO FOR DECADES...
CHANCES ARE -- YOU KNOW HIM OR SOMEONE IN HIS FAMILY, AT LEAST.
HIS ANTICS ON RADIO, TV AND BEYOND... HAVE GOTTEN HIM IN TROUBLE FROM TIME TO TIME...
BUT IT'S HIS HEART FOR THIS CITY, AND THE PEOPLE IN IT.... THAT KEEP HIM AS ONE OF THE LAST STANDING IN A TALK-RADIO GENRE THAT IS HARD TO COME BY THESE DAYS...
SO, TERRY MEINERS, WE GO WAY BACK, BUT NOT AS FAR BACK AS YOUR RADIO CAREER.
>> NO, BUT IT WASN'T LONG AGO YOU AND I WERE SITING ON A COUCH TOGETHER.
>> I KNOW.
LOOK AT US BACK HERE AGAIN.
>> WE WERE LIKE, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO NEXT.
WE ARE A COUPLE OF DUMMIES.
>> THIS TIME WE GET TO TALK ALL ABOUT YOU.
>> OH NO.
>> YOU JUST CELEBRATED 38 YEARS AT WHAS RADIO.
YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING IN RADIO NOW FOR SOME, ALMOST 50 YEARS.
HOW ARE YOU THAT OLD?
>> THAT'S TRUE.
I MEAN I HAVE BEEN ON WHAS RADIO, I THINK YOUR MOM WAS PREGNANT WITH YOU WHEN I GOT THE JOB.
>> CLOSE.
PRETTY CLOSE.
SO YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES.
>> YEAH I MEAN WHAS IS THIS BIG BOOMING SIGNAL THAT'S HEARD IN MOST OF THE EASTERN UNITED STATES.
SO IT WAS AN HONOR TO GET A CHANCE TO GET ON THERE.
IN FACT, I WAS ON A ROCK STATION HERE LOCALLY, IN A KIND OF RAUCOUS MOROCCO-- MORNING SHOW AND SOMEONE AT WHAS CALLED ME AND SAID IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD APPLY FOR THE AFTER AFTERNOON SHOW.
IT'S COMING OPEN.
I WAS LIKE, THAT'S A SIGN.
I SEPTEMBER A LETTER 84 REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD HIRE TERRY PLIENERS.
AFTER I GOT THE JOB, HE SAID AS SOON AS I READ THAT LETTER, I KNEW I WAS GOING TO HIRE YOU.
I MADE UP 84 DUMB THINGS BUT IT WORKED.
>> YOU STILL HAVE THE LIST DON'T YOU?
>> THE STATION IS STILL HOLDING DOWN THE FORT IN TERMS OF BEING A NEWS AND WEATHER AND ENTERTAINMENT CENTER AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE COME AND GO.
THERE ARE A LOT OF INTERESTING CHARACTERS IN RADIO AND I JUST SIT THERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE WEIRD, YOU KNOW,GUY AT THE DOOR, JUST COME ON IN, YOU'RE IN.
AND THEY NEVER TELL ME HEY, BUD, LEAVE.
>> BUT HAVE YOU REALLY JUST BRIDGED THAT GAP FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT PEOPLE AROUND HERE REMEMBER AS THE DYNASTY OF MEDIA ON TO THESE MEDIA CONGLOMERATES THAT RUN THE TV AND RADIO STATIONS.
WHAT HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST CHANGE YOU HAVE SEEN?
>> WHEN THE BINGHAMS OWNED ALL THE RADIO STATIONS AND STANDARD GROUP VIEWER, I REMEMBER WHEN I SIGNED MY PAPERS, I THOUGHT I WOULD BE WORKING FOR THE BINGHAMS THE REST OF MY LIFE AND A YEAR LATER... >> SURPRISE.
>> AND THEN IT ALL STARTED HAPPENING AND THESE COMPANIES STARTED JUMPING IN AND GATHERING AS MANY MARBLES AS THEY COULD AND WHATEVER HAPPENS, IS IF A COMPANY OWNS FOUR RADIO STATIONS, WHICH IS WHAT CLEAR CHANNEL OWNED AT THE TIME, AND THEN TOOK ON HAS AND AMC, JUST SIX STATIONS, THE C.E.O.
KNEW MY NAME AND NU ALL THAT BUT WITHIN A COUPLE OF YEARS, IT AS 800 STATIONS.
SO IT'S LIKE THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING BECAUSE THEN YOU BECOME A NON-DESCRIPT LITTLE DOT ON THE BOARD.
>> RIGHT.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
LET'S TALK ABOUT YOU GROWING UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS THIS.
ONE OF 14.
THAT'S 1-4.
SIBLINGS.
AS A MOTHER, I CAN'T EVEN WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND THAT.
>> WELL THINK ABOUT THAT.
MY MOTHER HAD 15 BABIES, SINGLE BIRTHS IN 19 YEARS TIME.
>> WOW.
>> SO I MEAN IT'S JUST LIKE WE ARE VERY CATHOLIC.
THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK.
THE POPE USED TO CALL AND SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YOU'VE DOUBLED THE POPULATION AT ST. STEVEN MARTYR.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THOUGH I READ AND I THINK YOU'VE TOLD ME THIS, TOO, BEING A PART OF A FAMILY LIKE THAT, IS REALLY KIND OF WHERE THIS CAREER OF YOURS STARTED BECAUSE YOU HAD TO STAND OUT IN A CROWD.
>> TRUE.
>> AND YOU STARTED TELLING JOKES AND JUST BEING CRAZY TO GET EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION.
>> MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE ALL VERY FUNNY.
IT'S REALLY INTERESTING.
AND YOU ARE RIGHT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
IT'S A NEED TO JUST BE-- HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO A LAKE AND YOU SEE ALL THOSE FISH UP THERE AND BECAUSE YOU ARE THROWING POPCORN, THEY'RE ALL TRYING TO GET STUFF.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU ARE IN A FAMILY OF 14.
JUST TRYING TO GET ATTENTION.
>> BUT NONE OF THEM ARE IN THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY?
>> NO.
MOST OF THEM OWN THEIR OWN COMPANIES.
I'M THE ONLY IDIOT WITH A JOB.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKED OUT THAT WAY.
I INTENTIONALLY-- I WENT TO KENTUCKY, WITH THE INTENTION OF GOING TO MED SCHOOL.
AND MY BEST FRIEND IS A CARDIOLOGIST.
SO WE WERE GOING TO TAKE THAT PATH.
AND I GOT IN THERE AND I LOVED THE MEDIA WHEN I WAS A KID.
AND WHILE I WAS AT U.K., I STARTED WORKING FOR A STATION IN LEXINGTON.
IT JUST PULLED ME RIGHT INTO IT.
>> AND THEN YOU WERE HIRED BY A STATION IN LOUISVILLE.
>> YEAH.
>> WAS THAT IMPORTANT-- DID YOU ALWAYS WANT TO COME BACK TO LOUISVILLE?
>> YEAH, I GUESS.
I DON'T-- YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE 22 YEARS OLD OR WHATEVER, YOU DON'T THINK TOO MUCH ABOUT THAT.
BECAUSE I LOVE LEXINGTON.
I LOVED ALL MY EXPERIENCES THERE.
I STILL GOT GREAT FRIENDS FROM U.K. WE ARE ALL STILL EMAIL AND GET TOGETHER NOW AND AGAIN.
SO THAT WAS A GOOD LIFE I HAD.
BUT MY OLDEST BROTHER HAD BOUGHT A STORE IN INDIANAPOLIS AND HE WANTED ME TO HELP HIM WITH IT AND I GOT BORED WITH THE RADIO IN LEXINGTON.
SO I SAID I'LL COME UP THERE AND HELP YOU.
I WENT THERE AND IT WAS A NIGHTMARE!
PEOPLE STEALING CASES OF CIGARETTES.
AND I'M LIKE HEY, WHAT'S HAPPENING.
STOP THEM QUICK!
I DIDN'T KNOW... AND PEOPLE JUST TAKING OUR CASH AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I DIDN'T KNOW-- I SAID BAIL ME OUT.
>> I GOT TO GET BACK TO RADIO.
>> SO I CALLED A FRIEND AT WLRS IN LOUISVILLE, SHE'S THE OWNER.
SHE SAID WE'LL FIND A JOB FOR YOU.
THEY PUT ME IN PROMOTIONS.
I SAID UNDER ONE CAVEAT.
DON'T PUT ME ON THE AIR ANYMORE.
I'M SICK OF BEING ON THE AIR.
I WOULD RATHER BE BEHIND THE SCENES.
THAT WORKED OUT WELL.
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
HOW DID YOU END UP BACK ON THE AIR?
>> THE PERSON WHO WORKED IN THE EVENING WOULD CALL IN SICK AND THEY WOULD SAY TERRY, WE NEED YOU TO DO THE EVENINGS.
AFTER AFTERNOON GUY, I CAN'T GET OUT OF BED.
TERRY GET IN THERE.
AND SO I STARTED DOING SHOWS AND THEY PAIRED ME WITH A MORNING GUY AND OFF IT WENT.
>> SO YOU REALLY MADE A NAME FOR YOURSELF, THOUGH IN THAT.
>> IT WAS PLE SEEDED BY MORNING SICK THESE WHICH WAS THE NAME OF IT YOU'VE HAD A FEW KIDS SO YOU KNOW THAT EXPRESSION.
>> WELL AWARE.
>> WE CALLED IT THAT AND IT WAS KIND OF A WILD MORNING SHOW.
WE KIND OF PUSHED THE ENVELOPE IN MANY WAYS.
AND THE CABLE COMPANY PUT US ON CABLE.
SO WHILE WE WERE DOING OUR RADIO SHOW, WE WOULD PLAY MUSIC AND THEN ONCE THE MUSIC WAS ON, WE WOULD TURN OFF THE RADIO MICS AND WE COULD LOOK AT THE CABLE TV CAMERAS AND SAY OH, LET'S HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA FUN AND WE STARTED DOING... >> RADIO AND TV.
>> WE BUILT A SIDE AUDIENCE DOING VISUAL ANTICS AND SO IT JUST I LEARNED A LOT THERE.
>> OBVIOUSLY.
BECAUSE IT TURNED INTO THIS HUGE CAREER.
SO YOU MADE A NAME FOR YOURSELF HERE AND THEN YOU DID GET OFFERS, OTHER CITIES.
>> I DID.
>> WHAT, AT THAT POINT IN YOUR CAREER, YOU REALLY COULD HAVE STARTED CLIMBING THAT LADDER AT THAT TIME.
WHY DID YOU STAY HERE.
>> RON CLAY WAS MY PARTNER ON WLRS AND WE GOT INTEREST IN NEW YORK AND LOS ANGELES AND IT JUST GOT TO BE WERE THE DEALS GOOD ENOUGH?
THEY SOUNDED AWFULLY RISKY.
SO WE WERE WAITING.
WE WERE WAITING TO SEE IF IT WOULD GET BETTER.
IF IT WOULD IMPROVE.
THE OFFERS.
AND THEN HAS CAME ALONG AND I JUST QUIETLY STEPPED BACK.
>> YEAH.
>> THEY WERE REALLY MAD AT ME FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO WORK ON MY OWN AND I JUST THOUGHT THIS IS GROWN-UP RADIO.
IT'S NEWS AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN STILL DO LAMPOONS OF VARIOUS PEOPLE BUT IT WILL ALSO BE SERIOUS NEWS AND HELICOPTER TRAFFIC AND INSTEAD OF US JUST MAKING A FAKE HELICOPTER SOUND AND PRETENDING...
THERE'S A DWIE UP GUY UP HERE MAKING A RUN ON THE BANK.
>> YOU STILL DO A LOT OF THAT.
LET'S BE HONEST.
SO YOU HAVE BUILT THIS-- WE WERE TALKING EARLIER.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTRY DOES THE TYPE OF SHOW THAT YOU DO, THIS DRIVE TIME.
IT'S KIND OF AN OLD SCHOOL RADIO SHOW.
>> IT IS.
>> THAT IS PART TALK, PART POLITICS, PART SPORTS, PART TRAFFIC.
A LOT OF HUMOR.
YOU GET SOME CRAZY CHARACTERS THAT, YOU KNOW, COME OVER.
SO HOW HAS THIS THE-- HOW HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THAT SCHTICK GOING FOR SO LONG.
>> YOU JUST HAVE TO EVOLVE DAY TO DAY.
NOT EVEN YEAR TO YEAR.
BUT THE CULTURE CHANGES.
YOU HAVE TO CHANGE WITH IT.
AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T INTERVIEWING THE SENATE LEADER ON QMF, BUT, IF MITCH McCOMWALKS IN AND WANTS TO BE ON THE AIR, HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO FUNNY VOICES.
HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT POLICY, WHICH IS FINE, WHICH MEANS I ALSO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE COMEDIC ELEMENTS AND HAVE YOU TO DO YOUR HOME WORK THAT'S RIGHT.
>> YEAH AND YOU DO A GREAT JOB AT LIKE WALKING THAT LINE.
BUT DO YOU MAKE SOME PEOPLE MAD FROM TIME TO TIME.
>> I DO.
>> HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT?
>> WELL, ANYBODY IN OUR BUSINESS IS LYING IF THEY SAY THAT DOESN'T HURT BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY SOME VICIOUS THINGS TO US ONLINE BECAUSE THEY HAVE LOTS OF KEYBOARD BRAVADO.
THEY WOULD NEVER SAY TO YOU IN KROGER BUT THEY'LL SAY IT TO YOU ON TWITTER.
AND IT'S JUST-- I CALL THEM GUTLESS WEASELS BUT YOU CALL THEM WHAT YOU WANT.
I JUST THINK IT'S SO WEAK OF SOMEBODY TO JUST LASH OUT AT SOMEBODY.
THEY DON'T KNOW THE FULL BREADTH OF A STORY BUT THEY'VE PLANTED THEIR FLAG IN WHATEVER THEIR IDEOLOGY IS AND THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYBODY ELSE'S OPINION.
WE HAVE GOTTEN INTO THAT IN OUR CULTURE NOW WHERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY VARIANCE IN THEIR WORLD VIEW AS THOUGH WE ARE ALL GOING TO LIVE IN CAVES OR SOMETHING.
IT'S VERY STRANGE.
SOCIAL MEDIA, IS BAD FOR THAT.
GOOD FOR MANY THINGS, BUT BAD FOR POLARIZING PEOPLE.
>> HAS THAT BEEN THE BIGGEST CHANGE YOU'VE SEEN IN YOUR 50 YEARS?
>> OH YEAH.
>> I WOULD SAY.
>> BECAUSE WHEN I WAS ON THE STATION IN LEXINGTON, I WAS AT U.K., SOMEONE CALLED THE STATION AND SAID THAT I SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A HAMBURGER PLACE.
WELL, IT'S JUST MADE UP.
IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH REALITY.
THE HAMBURGER CHAIN IT CANCEL THEIR ADVERTISING BECAUSE SOMEBODY CALLED THEIR OFFICE AND SAID THAT SO THE MANAGEMENT CALLS ME AND I'M LIKE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT SOMEONE COULD DO DAMAGE LIKE THAT, LITTLE TELEPHONE TERRORISM.
NOWADAYS THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO AUTHENTICATE THAT SORT OF THING BUT I LEARNED THAT LESSON BACK THEN.
OH NOT EVERYONE IS WRAPPED RIGHT.
AND SOME PEOPLE WILL LASH OUT.
BUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA COMPONENT CAME ALONG EVENTUALLY AND GAVE PEOPLE A WINDOW TO JUST START, YOU KNOW, BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM ALL THE TIME AND THEY HIDE UNDER LITTLE FAKE USER NAMES.
LIKE PLEASE.
HEY, LET'S GO TO THE SPINE STORE.
I'LL BUY ONE FOR YOU.
>> HOW DO YOU STAY UP ON EVERYTHING?
LIKE YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING I FEEL LIKE.
>> I TRY TO.
YOU KNOW THIS FROM ALL YOUR YEARS.
BY THE WAY, ARE WE GOING TO TURN THE SECOND SEGMENT INTO ME INTERVIEWING YOU?
>> NO, SORRY.
MAYBE IF YOU HAVE A TV SHOW.
>> BUT THINK OF IT AS GOING FISHING.
SOMEONE IS CONSTANTLY FISHING.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN THIS BUSINESS IS WE ARE CONSTANTLY CULLING NEW INFORMATION, PULLING IT FROM VARIOUS SOURCES, EVEN WHEN YOU ARE ON A PICNIC OR WHATEVER, SOMETIMES YOUR MIND DRIFTS INTO WHAT HAPPENED TO SUCH AND SUCH BECAUSE IT'S JUST YOUR BRAIN BECOMES A STORAGE UNIT FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AND SO YOU CONSTANTLY-- AND THAT'S THE GOOD THING ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA.
IT OFFERS SO MUCH SO QUICKLY.
THAT YOU CAN STAY UP ON THINGS.
AND SO THAT'S MY JOB, IS TO, WHEN SOMEONE ASKS ME ON THE AIR, HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT SUCH AND SUCH, MY ANSWER HAD BETTER BE YES, I HAVE.
>> YEAH, TOUGH IN THIS DAY AND AGE TO KEEP UP WITH EVERYTHING.
HAVE YOU EVER-- WAS THERE EVER A TIME WHEN YOU WERE LIKE, WOW, I WENT TOO FAR?
I CROSSED THE LINE.
>> OH YEAH.
>> I'M GOING TO LOSE MY JOB OR GET IT CANCEL?
>> I'VE NEVER WORRIED ABOUT LOSING MY JOB OR GETTING IT CANCEL.
IT'S LIKE I WILL BE FINE.
I HAVE COMPLETE FAITH IN MY ABILITY.
I'M GOING TO BE FINE IN LIFE AND MY FAMILY IS GOING TO BE FINE BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, IF AS SOON AS THIS INTERVIEW ENDS, THEY TEXT ME AND SAY YOU ARE OUT, I WILL BE FINE.
I'LL SEE YOU ON THE OTHER STATION TOMORROW, THE COMPETING STATION.
YOU KNOW?
BUT THAT'S HOW THAT GOES.
CROSSING THE LINE?
THAT'S HAPPENED MANY, MANY TIMES.
YOU CAN READ ABOUT IT ONLINE.
>> YOU HAVE HAD SOME INSTANCES.
>> I HAD TO GO TO COURT A FEW TIMES.
THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER WHO WAS ANGRY WITH ME.
SO I CAN'T RELITIGATE IT HERE ON YOUR SHOW.
BUT I WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY IN A JEFFERSON DISTRICT COURT AND IT TOOK 30 SECONDS.
IT WAS ABOUT A MATTER OF SPEEDING TICKETS.
THIS GUY PULLED ME OVER AND I LOOKED AT HIS VIDEO CAMERA AND HE SAID YOU WERE GOING 75 IN A 55 AND I SAID NO, I'M NOT.
AND YOU KNOW THAT.
AND SO THAT STARTED THE CHALLENGE.
AND WE PLAYED IT OUT.
AND WE SHOOK HANDS AT THE END BUT IT WASN'T VERY WARM.
>> I THINK PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU THAT YOU ARE NOT DEFINED BY YOUR JOB AT ALL.
ANYBODY WHO KNOWS YOU KNOWS THAT YOU VALUE FAMILY AND YOUR LIFE AND EVERYBODY.
AND REALLY THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU MORE THAN THE JOB.
THE JOB IS JUST A JOB FOR YOU.
>> I'M A CARE TAKER.
I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
THAT'S THE MIDDLE CHILD THING.
I'M NUMBER 5 OF 14.
I LOOK OUT FOR PEOPLE QUIETLY AND BUT I ALWAYS ASSUME EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, TOO.
THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.
GOD PUT US ON THIS EARTH SO THAT WHEN SOMEBODY IS IN A MUD HOLE, YOU PULL THEM OUT.
AND SOME DAY YOU WILL BE IN THE MUD HOLE AND THEY PULL YOU OUT.
SEEMS LIKE A FAIR EXCHANGE.
>> YEAH WELL, I MEAN, AND PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T-- I MEAN YOU HAVE HAVE BEEN A MENTOR FOR SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA BUSINESS; MYSELF INCLUDED.
I MEAN WHEN I CAME HERE, YOU REALLY HELPED ME NAVIGATE THE MEDIA LANDSCAPE.
AND THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE QUIET THINGS THAT YOU DO BEHIND THE SCENES FOR, I MEAN I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.
THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE YOU HELPED.
WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT TO YOU?
>> BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO FLOURISH.
ISN'T LIFE BETTER WHEN YOU ARE FLOURISHING AND YOU ARE HAPPY?
PEOPLE CAN GET STUCK IN A POSITION IN THEIR JOB WHERE THEY'RE JUST LIKE, GOD, I HATE THIS PLACE.
I WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I'M THINKING THE DOOR IS NOT LOCKED.
EVERYBODY IS HIRING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ON YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHAT FEELS RIGHT.
GO OUT AND FIND OUT WHAT FEELS RIGHT AND THEN GIVE IT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE.
AND SO WHEN I SEE PEOPLE COME ALONG IN OUR BUSINESS AND THEY'RE CURIOUS AND THEY LISTEN AND THEY ASK QUESTIONS, JUST LIKE YOU DID, IT'S LIKE THIS PERSON IS IN.
THEY'RE IN THE GAME.
THEY WANT IT.
I'LL DO ANYTHING I CAN TO HELP YOU.
>> LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE RADIO LANDSCAPE AND HOW IT HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY DURING YOUR CAREER.
LET'S TALK ABOUT LOUISVILLE.
YOU KNOW, YOU GREW UP IN LOUISVILLE.
YOUR DAD WAS VERY WELL KNOWN IN LOUISVILLE.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
>> YOUR WHOLE FAMILY, REALLY, IS.
HOW HAVE YOU SEEN LOUISVILLE CHANGE OTHER THAT TIME FOR THE GOOD OR THE BAD?
>> BOTH WAYS.
IT'S STILL A BIG, SMALL TOWN.
YOU KNOW, IT HAS THE-- IT HAS THE SENTIMENT AND THE FEEL AND THE AND THE OLD SCHOOL SORT OF LOOKING OUT FOR NEIGHBORS FEEL OF A TOWN ONE THIRD OF THE SIZE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE ADDED ON SOME MORE PRESSURES WITH VIOLENCE THAT THAT IS REALLY PLAGUING THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
AND SO THAT'S THAT'S A THING WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO WRESTLE WITH.
WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO WRESTLE WITH THIS BEAR THAT'S SCARING EVERYBODY.
AND LOUISVILLE IS CAUGHT IN THAT AS WELL.
UNLIKE OTHER CITIES IN KENTUCKY, LEXINGTON HAS SOME ISSUES, BUT NOT ON THIS SCALE.
AND YOU KNOW, OWENSBORO, PADUCAHA, ASHLAND, YOU KNOW, EVERY WHERE YOU GO AROUND, BOWLING GREEN UP IN THE NORTHEAST, COVINGTON, CINCINNATI SUBURBS, THEY ALL HAVE SOME ISSUES.
BUT THIS IS SO MAGNIFIED HERE THAT USE THE-- THAT IT'S ALARMING AND CANNOT BE IGNORED.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY ON ITS OWN.
SO THAT'S A BAD PART OF THE WAY THE CULTURE HAS CHANGED.
THE GOOD PART IS, YOU STILL GOING INTO GERMAN TOWN AND THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD PUBS ARE IN THERE, AND SOMEBODY COMES OUT AND CHECKS AND HOLLERS, WHO HAD THE CHILI!
IT STILL HAS SOME OF THE SMALL TOWN FEEL TO IT, WHICH IS FUN.
AND LIKE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, MY NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR INSTANCE, WE LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER.
EVERYBODY KNOWS SOMEBODY IS GONE, WE LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER.
WE TAKE IN EACH OTHER'S GARBAGE CANS.
WE TAKE OUT THE RECYCLING FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
SOME PEOPLE CAN'T DO IT ON THEIR OWN IN I MORE SO WE DO THAT.
THAT'S JUST SORT OF, JUST BEING RESPECTFUL OF OTHER PEOPLE.
AND THERE IS A LOT OF THAT IN NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS CITY WHERE PEOPLE KNOW, NOT ONLY THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS ON THE OTHER SIDE BUT THE PEOPLE THREE DOORS DOWN, FIVE DOORS, SEVEN DOORS, NEXT STREET OVER.
THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW THEM, GO OUT SOME DAY WITH-- GO OUT AND-- WELL HERE'S WHAT WE DO IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I STARTED THIS.
I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO FIND THIS HARD TO BELIEVE.
I SENT A FLYER, I PUT IT OUT MYSELF IN EVERYBODY'S MAIL BOX, ABOUT 100 OF THEM, ALL IN PROXIMITY TO THIS LITTLE PARK IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
AND I SAID, ON THE FRIDAY, WHATEVER IT IS, JUNE SOMETHING, FRIDAY, JULY SOMETHING, FRIDAY AUGUST SOMETHING, 7 P.M., WE ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE A COCKTAIL PARTY.
BRING WHATEVER YOU NEED AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CLEAN UP AFTER ANYBODY ELSE.
IF IT RAINS, SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
SO THE FIRST NIGHT THAT IT HAPPENED, I WALK OUT THERE AT 7:00, I LOOK AROUND, NO ONE WAS THERE.
I SAID WELL, I TRIED.
ABOUT 7:02, PEOPLE STARTED COMING OUT OF THEIR HOUSES, COMING OUT.
THEY ALL HAD A DRINK AND THEY CAME OUT AND WE HAD A GRAND CELEBRATION AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR MANY YEARS.
THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO JUST KNOW WHO YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE.
HOW ARE YOU?
I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER.
OH MY GOSH THIS HAPPENED.
I HEARD YOU GOT THAT AWARD.
WHATEVER.
AND THEN PEOPLE, THEN IT'S LIKE, YOUR NAME IS BARBARA, OR WHATEVER.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW, YOU SEE THEM AND YOU WAVE BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
OH YEAH, I WAS IN THE MARINES AND I GOT HERE TO LOUISVILLE BECAUSE OF SUCH AND SUCH AND I'M SO GLAD TO MEET YOU.
IT JUST OPENS UP ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
THEN YOU KNOW BARBARA, YOU KNOW BARBARA'S SON AND YOU GET CONNECTED TO PEOPLE AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, BARBARA'S SON IS HELPING YOUR DAUGHTER FIX HER CAR OR WHATEVER.
>> YOU NEVER KNOW.
>> BUT IT'S STAYING CLOISTERED IN YOUR HOME IS NOT A SOLUTION TO ANYTHING.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK IS PEOPLE'S BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION ABOUT YOU?
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS.
>> OH YEAH.
>> ABOUT YOU.
>> WELL, THEY'LL SAY YOU FILTHY LIBERAL OR SEXIST.
YOU, YOU REDNECK CONSERVATIVE.
YEAH, WHATEVER.
SO I KEEP ONE EMAIL THAT'S FRAMED.
THIS MAKES ME LAUGH.
I CAN'T EVEN SAY THE WORD ON THE AIR, BUT THIS GUY JUST BLASTED ME, AND HE USED FONT THAT WAS LIKE 58 OR WHATEVER IS YELLING.
YEAH, HE'S SCREAMING.
MASSIVE FONT ON HIS EMAIL TELLING ME THAT HE HATES ME AND MY SHOW AND ANY SIGNS THAT BOB LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE YEAH.
HEY BOB ME NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT?
SO YOU WERE IN THE MARINES?
YEAH.
AND YOUR SON HELPED MY DAUGHTER, RIGHT?
NO, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A PERCEPTION THAT I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO JOKE WITH THINGS OR WHATEVER, AND IT'S LIKE I'M NOT.
I'M JUST SOME REGULAR SCHMO ON THE NEXT GUY OVER A TABLE NEXT TO YOU AT APPLEBEE'S OR WHATEVER.
AND I JUST HAPPEN TO I MEAN I TALK FOR A LIVING, BUT I THINK FOR A LIVING TOO.
AND THAT'S THE HARD PART.
SO IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN YOU THINK.
AND I'M NOT BEING DISMISSIVE OF ANYBODY ELSE'S TALENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL ARTISTS AND LAWYERS, NURSES, TRUCK DRIVERS, DOCK WORKERS, PEOPLE WHO DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
AND THEY'RE GOOD AT IT.
WELL, I'M GOOD AT WHAT I DO TO GOD BLESS ALL OF US.
>> IF YOU WEREN'T DOING RADIO, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
>> I LOVED CARTOONING.
WHEN I WAS A KID... >> NO WAY.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
>> I WOULD DRAW HUGH HANEY'S CARTOON OUT OF THE "COURIER JOURNAL" EVERY DAY.
AND I JUST LOVE IT AND WOULD I DO IT AS CLOSE AS I COULD.
AND THEN MY PARENTS, WITH ALL THESE KIDS, SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE GOOD AT THAT.
YOU WANT TO TRY AND PURSUE THAT?
I WOULD SAY YEAH, AND THEY SAID DO YOU WANT TO MEET HUGH HANEY?
THEY SET IT UP SO I GOT TO MEET HIM.
>> OH WOW.
>> IT WAS REALLY A THING.
WHEN I STARTED ON THE RADIO, NOT UNTIL I GOT TO LOUISVILLE, I HAD A BIG DRAWING BOARD AND I WOULD DRAW FOR FUN AND I LET IT GO BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD PURSUE.
I LIKE TO LISTEN TO MUSIC AND DRAW CARTOONS ALL DAY.
>> OKAY.
>> THAT WOULD BE FUN BUT THERE IS NOT MUCH MONEY IN THAT, I THINK.
>> SO YOU ARE AT 38 YEARS.
ARE WE GOING TO GO TO 40?
WHAT IS YOUR PLAN?
WHAT IS NEXT?
>> A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WHOM I LOVE WHO IS A MEDIA PARTNER OF MINE SAID YOU SHOULD TAKE AN ODD NUMBER BECAUSE IT WILL BE WHAT THEY DON'T EXPECT AND THAT VERY GOOD FRIEND IS YOU!
>> CALL ME OUT.
YEAH EVERYBODY IS GOING TO THINK 40.
IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE YOU TO DO 41 OR 39.
>> LOOK AT YOU DOING YOUR SHOW WITH YOUR TAYLOR SWIFT BRACELETS.
>> I DID HAVE THAT...
BUT, ALL RIGHT.
ENOUGH ABOUT ME.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> IT WAS FUN.
>> WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW?
>> TO BE KIND TO EACH OTHER.
MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND I, WE ARE ON A TEXT-- PEOPLE ASK, YOU ARE ONE OF 14 KIDS OH MY GOD.
HOW DOES THAT WORK?
WE LOVE EACH OTHER.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
PEOPLE SEEM TO BE SHOCKED.
A GUY SAID SOMETHING TO ME WHEN I WORKED AT THAT STATION IN LEXINGTON I WAS STILL AT U.K. WE WERE GOING TO GO OUT AND SEE A MOVIE SOME AFTERNOON AFTER I HAD DONE THE SHOW IN THE MORNING.
I SAID DO YOU HAVE ANY SIBLINGS.
HE SAID I HAVE A SISTER BUT I HATE HER GUTS.
AND I WAS SHOCKED.
I HAD NEVER HEARD ANYBODY SAY THAT BEFORE.
AND IT JUST HURT ME AND HERE IT IS, 40 YEARS LATER AND I'M STILL THINKING ABOUT IT.
THAT KIND OF STUFF BLOWS MY MIND LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO LET ANYTHING FESTER.
OH YOUR SISTER, YOU KNOW,SWIPED YOUR WALLET OR WHATEVER IT WAS OR YOUR BROTHER INSULTED YOU OR SAID SOME OR THAT ABOUT YOUR KIDS LET IT GO THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO CALL THAT PERSON, NOT TEXT, NOT EMAIL BUT CALL THAT PERSON OR EVEN BETTER, SEE THEM FACE TO FACE AND SAY I'M SORRY.
NOT BUT.
I'M SORRY, BUT I WISH YOU HADN'T SAID THAT.
NO, LEAVE ALL THAT OFF.
I'M SORRY.
LET'S MAKE THIS WORK.
AND HOPEFULLY IT DOES, BUT YOU DID YOUR PART.
>> RIGHT.
>> THAT'S THE BEST PART OF LIFE, MENDING SOMETHING AND BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A LITTLE LESS BAGGAGE.
>> YOU KNOW HE STILL HAS MORE TO SAY.
WANT TO KNOW HIS FAVORITE RADIO GUEST?
HOW ABOUT THE WORST ONE?
THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF THE 20 RAPID FIRE QUESTIONS YOU CAN SEE ONLINE.
THEY'RE AT KET.ORG/INSIDELOUISVILLE AND WE SWAPPED PLACES.
YOU CAN SEE MY INTERVIEW ON HIS RADIO SHOW.
AND DON'T FORGET TO FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM AT KET IN LOU FOR MORE BEHIND THE SCENES.
THANKS FOR SPENDING A LITTLE TIME GETTING TO KNOW LOUISVILLE THIS WEEK.
I HOPE WE'LL AUTO SEE YOU NEXT TIME FOR INSIDE LOUISVILLE.
UNTIL THEN, MAKE IT A GREAT WEEK.
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