>> Illinois is locked in a series of legal battles with the Trump administration.

The lawsuits range from issues like the federal government, freezing billions of dollars for childcare and family services to what the state calls aggressive and unconstitutional immigration enforcement.

It's made for an increasingly tense relationship between Illinois and Washington, D.C., joining us is Illinois Attorney General Kwame Raoul.

Welcome back.

Thanks for joining us.

Thanks for having Ok, so suing the Trump administration over federal immigration agents, quote, menacing violence and unlawful incursion in Illinois, violent raids and encounters with immigration enforcement have been well documented, of course, since the start of Operation Midway Blitz to name a few course, undocumented Villegas Gonzalez was fatally shot by an ICE agent in suburban Franklin Park.

That was in September, Miramar.

Martinez was shot 5 times while she was tracking agents back in October in the city of Chicago and Poets and mother Renee Nicole.

Good being shot and killed in Minneapolis last week in the driver seat of her car.

The state of Minnesota are yes.

The state of Minnesota has filed its own separate lawsuit against the federal government on somewhat similar grounds as the state of Illinois.

What does the suit claims the impact of these federal actions?

Well, it's it's tough.

disruptive to communities with.

>> Where >> You know, roving patrols are happening.

>> The it's it's violative of the constitution of our sovereignty as a state of Maine to being able to maintain peaceful.

Communities and and it's inconsistent it.

violative of the Administrative Procedures Act because it's inconsistent with what Congress had intended intended for.

Border Patrol officers or do we do that on the border?

Border Patrol?

It's not.

It's not supposed be in the business of removing immigrants the interior.

They're supposed to be in and the border.

it's important to note we've got our lawsuit is not saying that immigration enforcement should not happen.

course it should happen.

That's happened with every presidential administration.

>> you know what?

want to call enforcement and removal officers who have traditionally done that or on the into are trained to do so.

It's targeted inforcement with compliance with, you know, not being violative of peoples privacy.

Not jus doing sweeps and asking everybody whether or not they are citizens of the United States and that and it's important to note that also that not recent.

A lawsuit that went up to Supreme Court with regards National Guard, Justice Kavanaugh concurring opinion.

a footnote.

We reversed on the position that he had taken earlier that people could be stopped on the basis of their race and with regards immigrations stops.

He said the Trump versus Illinois case regarding National Guard that that should not.

Be happening yet.

It is.

>> So many cases make their way.

You know, we just referenced another case that had, you know, has made its way to Supreme Court that win over mail-in election, a mail-in ballots from Illinois.

Congressman, my boss.

I mean, is this the kind of thing that could you could also see before the Supreme Court just because that the Trump administration it is known for appealing a ruling that it does not like.

>> Quite possibly.

You I look knowledge that this is the first of this type of case we filed it.

And later in the day on Monday, the state of Minnesota, my colleague Keith Ellison, filed a very similar complaint, different facts on the ground, but some similar Minnesota and California in North Carolina and other jurisdictions and so this is a novel case, right?

And so we anticipate, you know, with the gating this engaging in discovery.

The great thing about the process we we've we've worked overtime on this and it's an getting information from the public about some of the horrific experiences that they've endured at the hands of of ICE and CBP agents.

>> Yesterday, Professor Harold Credit, he joined us here on the show to discuss this lawsuit and how it might clash with the U.S.

Constitution's supremacy clause.

Here's what he had to say.

>> What the lawsuit are saying is that this use of aggressive tactics are trying to browbeat the states into abandoning their come soon worry all seas or century city policies to protect migrants within the communities and then the use of tactics to effect.

thing is actually at We should the Constitution because the rights protected under the 10th Amendment of the Constitution.

>> How does Illinois sanctuary policy fit within the protections of the 10th Amendment?

>> Well, you know, it was Justice Scalia, it said in case us V Prince that the federal government.

cannot commandeer states state and local resources do what is the federal government's work?

The 10th Amendment gives us our solitude gives gives us a states states rights that he used to be that Republicans would advocate for the protection of state.

So writes, We have the responsibility for keeping peace within our communities pursuant to to the 10th Amendment.

And when these agents come in and day disrupt our communities.

That has impact on our resources.

What that's what our police officers have to do.

You know must commend our local law enforcement from state police to Chicago Police broadview police and other a suburban police departments have done a tremendous job of having to respond.

2, 2, 2, some hot situations.

>> In a statement, a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson, Tricia McLaughlin had this to say about the lawsuit.

Quote, it is really astounding that the left him recklessly rediscovered the 10th Amendment when they don't want federal law enforcement offers to him for officers to enforce federal law, which is a clear federal responsibility.

Under article one, article 2 and the Supremacy Clause and then go right back to federalizing every state responsibility possible when they get back in power, spare us.

>> Well, you know, the 10th Amendment never went anywhere.

The 10th Amendment has been an existing Sturgis, violating it as been violating other provisions of the Constitution that give Congress the power legislate.

Congress has given the parameters for what a border patrol officers should be doing.

We are not again, we are not on the border.

are far away from aboard a they're supposed to be the tactics that they use on the border may be appropriate for the board and that's even questionable.

But they certainly not appropriate for them to appropriate for within the city of Chicago.

You cannot be going into people's homes and to private properties should not be disrupting courthouse is schoolhouses and >> child care centers with just sweeps.

>> We're I'm conflicted in.

And I wonder if this you know, to some degree where DHS spokesperson McLachlan was going with this is, you know, this concept of states rights, right?

Because when we hear about the dissolution of the Department of Education, for example, in education going back to the states as Secretary of Education.

Linda McMahon is advocating that make some people concerned because there are some states that have notoriously not done so well with education.

The equalizer right yet.

Sometimes those states which are typically typically read, would rather have a state's right there.

And in this case, it is a blue state making an argument for states rights as well.

Well, you never see that sort of juxtaposition.

Well, she's if look at like dismantling of the Department of Education.

>> It's not really a states rights question.

It's it's a question of violating what a separation of powers the Congress has created, though those departments and if you want to dismantle it, you have Congress has to approve that exactly.

And likewise, Congress have set parameters immigration enforcement.

The suit should take place.

And and you should have a bye >> President Trump has also frozen 10 billion dollars in federal funding for social safety programs.

Only in 5 Democratic let states Illinois included you and the attorneys general of those other states were able to obtain that two-week temporary restraining order, which you've got about a week and a half left which bars the bars, the federal government from the holding those dollars.

In the meantime, one of the claims that you are making in that suit, but it's actually it's violative of the the common theme many of the 50 lawsuits.

>> Of the Administrative Procedures Act that it's arbitrary and how they're doing it.

But its also political retribution just 5 states.

It's a fishing expedition.

They're saying this is about.

Fraud or potential fraud.

But it's just tough.

It fishing expedition.

We have systems in place to make sure that people who are receiving these benefits, people sorely need these benefits.

Truly need them and truly qualify for them.

Could there be a case here?

They are aware somebody scams, the system.

Absolutely.

And We actually partner.

With the federal government investigating sometimes prosecuting such such fraud.

So this notion of just targeting Democrats states and saying you're freezing funds and asking for, you know, something that cannot be printed produce possible producing and 2 week period of time and shouldn't be produced is is just targeting its political targeting.

>> Your office also released a report this week that found that for sheriff's offices in the state had complied with either an immigration detainer or civil immigration warrants, which is a violation of the state's trust act, which we've been talking about, the sanctuary state What has communication from your office been like to those counties to ensure that they're complying?

Yeah.

these are reports that come in from the various counties.

So they're self reporting too, to us.

And so.

>> You know, we communicate back want state.

A lot us that there may have been a violation as too how to avoid a hat.

It happening again.

We're not in the business of trying to go around to it 102 counties to to every county and try and the same way as I I just criticize with regards to the hhsa freezing.

To to to, to try to screen what every sheriff's office is, what we don't have the capacity to do that.

But these are situations where we've been alerted and we try to work with law enforcement partners and into making sure they're abiding by the state law.

>> couple seconds left AG.

Do you anticipate that you will be, you know, it involved in courtroom battles with this administration for the remainder President Trump's term.

>> It's looking that way.

I mean, you know, and it's not because I'm looking for battles with the Trump administration, but its because Constitution and our laws are being violated much rather work with the federal government as we do.

We work