I'm 47 years old, I've been incarcerated just over 20 years.

And, I have, life without parole plus 80 years.

a big part of my journey is, Doing everything I can to try to grasp the gravity of my, actions.

Who they hurt, how they hurt them.

I very much have a soul that that I need to pay.

That's a lifetime payment, I'm just like.

What?

Do you I pay that through my art.

I pay that with how I talk to people.

I pay that with, my experience and trying to help people.

Not go down that path even in here.

You just we'r in the mental health department.

Arkansas Valley Correctional Facility.

And this is my mural idea that I've been working on for seven years.

It's called metamorphosis of change.

And, it goes through showing, a guy who's built in a lab.

And they did everything to make him not human.

when they release him on the world.

He commits crimes, hurts peopl And he ends up going to prison.

And he starts to wor on his self, Changes his karma.

Works on his mind, body and soul.

Does what he can to make right what he did and help people.

And he ends up getting out of prison.

A human being.

I think most guys that see it, there's something that everybody can understand that's been incarcerated, I have, tremendous amount o guilt, remorse for what I did.

And I relate to the character because I have been called a monster.

I want guys to be able to look at it and reflect on their own life and the potential for where they can go.

It's not enoug just to exist in prison for me.

I need to thrive, I've had many people.

Like, when you get out, I'm like, I got life without.

And because of the changes I've made, the optimism I have in my life there like it doesn't seem that way, Rehabilitation is hard.

Changing who you are is extremely hard, but it's doable and anybody can do it.

You just got to sacrifice old ways of thinking.

You got to sacrifice old behaviors, and you can have a better life, you know?

And artwork has helped me get that for sure.

So thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, I think