Last night on Kentucky.

Tonight, we heard from four political operatives, two from each party about how the races are going and the issues that could influence how people vote.

Here's part of last night's conversation about how COVID affected Kentucky schools and businesses and about where the candidates stand on education.

There's no playbook for how to govern during a worldwide pandemic, right?

I don't.

We all know that.

Are there things when you look back at decisions that were made that could have been could have avoided some of these lingering effects and after effects that are going to take Kentucky years to dig out of?

Absolutely.

So that's why that's that's on the campaign trail for sure.

Anything else to add there, Miss Ann Taylor?

Yeah, I think, Renee, what's interesting about some of the COVID discussion in the campaign has been how Daniel Cameron has used it to form his education plan, his comeback plan, and how he has made education more of a Republican issue again.

And now both candidates are talking about how they help public schools and public teachers.

So I'll leave that there.

I'm sure we'll have more commentary on that.

We'll go there.

But Attorney General Cameron has certainly used the opportunity to say, I stand for public schools.

I also stand for public teachers.

That's not in the hands of one party or another.

We're all pro public schools.

Both of these candidates attended public schools and have a lot of public school ties.

And Cameron has a wife who is an educator.

That's right.

And a sister in law.

And so I think that it's been certainly informative to Kentucky voters to see that plan and how each leader would lead in that area.

And both would raise teacher wages, at least at the new teacher level.

Well, and the fact that General Cameron went to a targeted audience of school administrators and said, I'm sorry if Republicans have made you feel less than right, that may not have been persuasive, But I think many people in that room who I've talked to thought, well, attaboy for doing that.

Right.

And but it may not change any minds because what he's not saying is about school choice and about scholarship tax credits and about school vouchers.

That's in kind of muted tones.

Yeah.

I want to first say, during the pandemic, Governor Beshear saved lives and that's all he cared about doing at the moment.

And you're right.

You're right.

There's no playbook.

He wrote it as he went.

And I am so grateful that we had a governor who was putting the lives of Kentuckians at the forefront of his agenda and did not care about political considerations and did what he could, what he thought was right as far as education goes.

I know I've also heard General Cameron talk about public education, but I've seen his plans and his plans are to funnel money out of the public school system.

And so it's great to talk about those things.

I like that he's saying those things, but his plans would do the opposite, and that's really concerning.

A caller to Kentucky tonight brought up another issue that hasn't really received much attention during this governor's race.

The police involved shooting death of Breonna Taylor in Louisville in 2020.

News coverage and grand jurors exposed the fact that Attorney General Cameron misled his own grand jury on potential charges that could have been brought against police in the Breonna Taylor case and that he did so in order to protect the police.

Should this be an issue in the governor's race?

And it hasn't really been.

It hasn't been as much as some thought.

I thought it would actually play a larger role.

There were several allegations in the way that that question was asked.

I think.

But I will say this.

Attorney General Daniel Cameron followed the law.

Did the outcome satisfy every single Kentuckian?

Absolutely not.

Right.

That was in a horrible tragedy that rightfully rocked the city of Louisville and communities throughout Kentucky.

And it just.

There are lots of things where it shouldn't have ever happened.

Right.

But it has not really come up in this governor's race.

Quite honestly, I think it's been talked about enough where people just know.

Right.

If you're in Louisville and that issue is really important to you.

You've known that since day one, since the day that he jumped in the race.

So perhaps that's why we haven't seen as much pop up about that race.

So be going after him on this.

Well, I it's not for me to really say what he should go after him on.

I mean, I think that that's their campaign strategist that we'll talk to that.

But I'm not sure that it's true to say that he that Daniel Cameron followed the law and that I mean, I've never seen a situation where grand jurors are coming out and say, he lied to me.

His job was to present the evidence.

And and as far as I can tell, I mean, there's well, that's not what I can tell.

There are a lot of accusations that he didn't.

And so.

Accusations.

And I think we just have to agree to disagree.

I mean, I say, well, no, I mean, if those accusations are true from the people in the room, from the grand jurors, I mean, I think it's a serious breach of the public trust, at the very least.

So I think it's a valid issue in the campaign.

I can't I'm not going to question it was your strategy.

Sure.

So you can see more of last night's spirited discussion online on demand at Keg dawgs slash K-Y tonight.