>> Ted: COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, WHY THE COST OF INSULIN IS INCREASING AT SUCH A RAPID RATE AND WHAT CAN REALISTICALLY BE DONE ABOUT IT?

>> WE'LL USING HOUSING FIRST PROGRAMS IN HOMELESSNESS.

>>> FASHION STUDENTS DESIGNING CLOTHING FOR KIDS UNDERGOING CHEMOTHERAPY.

>> Ted: WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THE ARIZONA SUPREME COURT TODAY PUT A PAUSE ON MARICOPA COUNTY STEVEN RICHARD'S DEFAMATION SUIT AGAINST THE SENATE CANDIDATE, KARI LAKE.

IT'S A TEMPORARY STAY ISSUED LATE YESTERDAY AND GRANTED AS THE COURT CONSIDERS WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT LAKE'S APPEAL OF A LOWER COURT DECISION THAT THE CASE SHOULD PROCEED.

THE ORDER FOLLOWS THE STATE COURT OF APPEALS DECIDING NOT TO TAKE JURISDICTION OF JURISDICTION AND ALLOWING THE SUIT TO GO FORWARD.

RICHARD'S SUIT CLAIMS LAKE KNOWINGLY SPREAD FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION AND SAYS IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO SILENCE HER.

>>> KRIS MAYES SAYS THEY DO NOT REQUIRE TUCSON FOR A BALLOT MEASURE PASSING BY A FEW HUNDRED VOTES.

IT FELL INTO THE RANGE FOR RECOUNTS AS CALLED FOR IN STATE LAW, BUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID IN A LEGAL OPINION THAT THE LAW REFERS TO STATE-WIDE BALLOT MEASURES AND NOT MUNICIPAL VOTES.

MEASURE INVOLVES PAY RAISES FOR THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

>>> DONALD TRUMP TODAY WAS THREATENED WITH BEING EXPELLED FROM COURT FROM TESTIMONY BY E. JEAN CARROLL AS SHE DESCRIBED HOW TRUMP RUINED HER REPUTATION WITH SEXUAL ABUSE.

TRUMP IGNORED THE JUDGE'S COMMENTS TO KEEP QUIET AND AFTER IT WAS SAID, IT'S A WITCHHUNDRED AND A CONJOB OUTLOUD, LOUD YOU ENOUGH FOR JURORRERS TO HEAR.

THE JUDGE SAID, QUOTE, YOU JUST CAN'T CONTROL YOURSELF.

TRUMP RESPONDED BY MUTTERING, QUOTE, YOU CAN'T EITHER.

>>> THE U.S. SUPREME COURT CONSIDERS A CASE THAT COULD IMPACT THE GOVERNMENT'S REGULATORY POWERS.

IT INVOLVES OVERTURNING THE SO-CALLED CHEVRON DOCTRINE WITH AMBIGUOUS REGULATIONS AND THEY THINK THIS COULD CONCERN MEDICARE AND MEDICAID ALONG WITH PUBLIC HEALTH PROTECTIONS AND SCIENTIFIC ADVANCEMENT.

>>> CANCER CASES ARE INCREASING IN ADULTS UNDER THE AGE OF 50.

THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY WHICH REPORTS THAT THE UNDER 50 AN GROUP WAS THE ONLY DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP THAT SAW AN INCREASE IN CANCER CASES.

THE BIGGEST INCREASE WAS COLORECTAL CANCER WHICH IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF CANCER DEATH IN MEN UNDER 50 AND THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR WOMEN IN THAT AGE GROUP.

>>> ECONOMIC NOTE, RETAIL SALES INCREASED LAST MONTH, A.6% WHICH DOESN'T SOUND LIKE MUCH AND WHAT THEY EXPECT FOR 2024 WITH SPENDING TO CONTINUE TO GROW BUT AT A SLOWER PACE THAN LAST YEAR.

>>> ARIZONA IS SEEING A COST IN INSULIN RISES AND FOR THAT WE ASK OUR GUEST, DR. SWAPNA REDDY AND ALWAYS A PLEASURE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: HOW MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE HAS INSULIN BECOME?

>> 300 TO 600%.

THIS IS SHOCKING CONSIDERING THIS IS NOT A NEW DRUG, RIGHT.

THIS WAS DEVELOPED IN THE 19 1920'S AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO AND THE THREE MEN THAT DEVELOPED IT DID NOT MAKE MONEY AND SOLD THEIR PATENT FOR ONE DOLLAR EACH BECAUSE THEY SAID THIS IS IMPORTANT ABOUT HUMANITY.

SOMETHING ABOUT THAT SPIRIT WATERED DOWN AND 100 YEARS LATER, WE HAVE THIS DRUG THAT PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD OR STRUGGLE.

>> Ted: WHEN DID THE SERIOUS INCREASES START?

WHEN DID YOU SEE THINGS SPIKE?

>> STEADILY INCREASING IN THE LAST 50 YEARS, BUT IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, WE'VE SEEN SPIKE INCREASES THAT ARE IMPOSSIBLE ALMOST TO DEFEND AT ANY LEVEL.

>> Ted: WHAT'S GOING ON?

>> THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AND I WOULD SAY 2023 ENDED UP BEING A BIG YEAR.

SO ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL IN THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, WHAT WE BASICALLY HAD WAS A CAP ON SENIORS, ON MEDICARE, A CAP OF OUT-OF-POCKET COST, WHICH WAS A KIND OF MOVEMENT.

ALSO ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, STARTING THIS YEAR, THERE WILL BE MEDICAID PENALTIES FOR MANUFACTURERS THAT WILL BE HAVING LIST PRICES THAT ARE OVER THE COST OF INFLATION.

SO WE'RE SEEING THINGS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, ON THE STATE LEVEL, 25 STATES HAVE CREATED CAPS AND WE HAVE EVEN OUR STATE, ARIZONA AND VIRGINIA, HAVE FILED LAWSUITS.

WE'RE SEEING THINGS HAPPEN AND ALSO INDUSTRY HAVE KIND OF SELF-CAPPED LAST YEAR.

>> Ted: SO ARE WE EXPECTING TO SEE THAT IS FLATTENING OUT HERE?

>> I DEFINITELY THINK WE'RE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT INDUSTRY, ELITHE THREE BIGGEST INDUSTRIES STARTING WITH ELI LILY, THEY CUT LIST PRICES ON INSULIN BRANDS AND HAD CAPS, $35 MONTHLY CAPS AND FOR THE UNINSURED AND THE OTHER TWO FOLLOWED SUIT.

WHAT COMPLICATED IT HERE IS A PATCHWORK EFFORT AND THERE ARE FOLKS FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS AND NOT IN ANY OF THESE PROTECTIONS.

AND WHAT WE HAVE, ALSO, IS 40 MILLION AMERICANS WITH DIABETES AND 8 MILLION PEOPLE NEED INSULIN EVERY DAY TO STAY ALIVE.

WE SHOULD NOT BE IN A PLACE WITH AN OLD MEDICATION WHERE PEOPLE STILL CAN'T AFFORD IT.

>> Ted: THE LAW SUIT, THE TORN ATTORNEY, SUING INSULIN MAKERS AND PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGERS FOR ART ARTIFICIALLY INFLATING.

WHAT IS THIS LAWSUIT ABOUT?

>> IT'S NOT JUST ARIZONA BUT STATES LIKE VIRGINIA ARE DOING THE SAME THING AND, BASICALLY, SUING MANUFACTURERS AND PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGERS FOR COLLUDING TO HAVE EXTREMELY HIGH PRICES AND MAKING THIS UNAFFORDABLE FOR ARIZONANS TO AFFORD INSULIN.

PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGERS, MOST DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE BUT IMPACTED BY WHAT THEY DO.

THEY'RE THE MIDDLE MEN BETWEEN THE MANUFACTURERS AND INSURANCE.

THEY ARE INFLUENTIAL IN SETTING RATES FOR INSURERS AS WELL.

>> Ted: BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED, YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ARTIFICIALLY INFLATE IT THAT PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING FOR IT.

>> NONE OF THESE ACTORS, NONE OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AND NOT JUST THE MANUFACTURERS, BUT EASY TO YOU BLAME THE MANUFACTURERS, BUT MANY STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS PROCESS, RIGHT?

THERE'S MANUFACTURERS, PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGERS, INSURERS AND THE PATIENTS WHO HAVE THE LEAST POWER IN THIS PROCESS.

NONE OF THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS ARE DOING ANYTHING THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THEM TO DO.

WE LARGELY LET MANUFACTURERS, DRUG MAKERS, THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY OPERATE IN A FREE MARKET KIND OF PLACE AND THEY'RE OPERATING IN A FREE MARKETPLACE.

WHAT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S IMPORTANT IS THERE IS A HUGE PUBLIC OUTCRY AND WE'RE FEELING LIKE THIS IS NOT OK BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY AMERICANS WITH DIABETES AND SO MANY PEOPLE WE KNOW.

IT FEELS PERSONAL, RIGHT.

WE ALL PROBABLY KNOW SOMEBODY WHO HAS A TYPE 1 OR TYPE II DIABETES OR WE WILL AT SOME POINT AND THIS FEELS UNFAIR.

HOPEFULLY, THIS WILL SPILL OVER INTO EVERY DAY NEEDED DRUGS.

>> Ted: I KNOW EVERY DAY NEEDED DRUGS ARE AFFECTED HERE AND I HAVE TO BELIEVE THE COST OF INNOVATION HAS TO BE LOW.

IT HAS TO BE 100 YEARS AGO.

SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE DONE TO ADDRESS THIS?

>> WELL, ONE PIECE IS, I THINK THAT NARRATIVE ABOUT THE COST OF INNOVATION.

A LOT OF TIMES MANUFACTURERS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN THAT WORLD WILL SAY, WE HAVE TO KEEP INCREASING THE PRICES BECAUSE OF THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE OF THE INNOVATION, BECAUSE OF INFLATION, ET CETERA.

SO EVEN THOUGH THERE HAVE BEEN INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS TO INSULIN AND ESPECIALLY SORT OF APPLICATORS FOR INSULIN, THOSE INNOVATIONS AND CHANGES DO NOT EQUAL 300 TO 600% IMPROVEMENT.

WHAT WE NEED TO SEE IS A WATER SHIFT HERE.

WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY WE LOOK AT WHAT'S FAIR, WHAT'S NOT FAIR IN TERMS OF THE EVERY DAY MEDICATIONS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO STAY ALIVE.

WE NEED CAPS FOR ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF THEIR INSURANCE STATUS.

>> Ted: IS THERE NO GENERIC INSULINS AND ONES THAT ARE COMING ON TO THE MARKET.

WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE IS THE WAY WE HAVE OUR PATENTING PROCESS IN THE U.S.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET GENERIC PATENTED AND DIFFICULT TO PUT THEY ON THE MARKET AND A TOUGH MARKET TO GET INTO.

OFTEN, IT'S NOT PROFIT BE.

PROFITABLE.

AND HARD TO JUMP OVER TEASE HURDLES, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND NEED TO PUSH HARDER HERE.

>> Ted: DR. SWAPNA REDDY, ALWAYS A PLEASURE AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: UP NEXT, USING HOUSING FIRST PROGRAMS TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS.

>> GENOCIDE BEGINS LONG BEFORE THE FIRST KILLING TAKES PLACE.

>> IT'S A WAR OF INFORMATION.

THESE ARE FOREIGNERS AND DIFFERENT.

>> BE A PART OF THIS NEW COMMUNITY.

WHEN HUMAN RIGHT'S VIOLATION GO UNCHALLENGED, IT'S A LESSON THAT AUTHORITARIANS EVERYWHERE TAKE TO HEART.

>> WHO WILL DRAW THE LINE AND SAY, NO, THIS HAS TO STOP.

>> MONDAY NIGHT AT 9:30 ON ARIZONA PBS.

♪♪ >> NEXT TIME -- >> THEY HAVE TO RIGHT TO BE HERE.

>> -- A GATHERING OF TRAVELERS COMES TO TOWN.

AND THE LOCAL MAGISTRATE PLANS ACTION.

>> TIME FOR A BLIND CRY.

>> BUT WHEN HE'S KILLED -- >> WHY WOULD A MAN TAKE OFF HIS BELT BEFORE SOMEONE IS KILLED.

>> -- BARNABY ORDERS THE TRAVELERS TO STAY.

>> MANAGES MIDSUMMERTHURSDAY NIGHT ON PBS.

♪♪ >> LIKE STUDENTS IN ARIZONA EXPERIENCE AN EDUCATION VERY SIMILAR TO THOSE STUDENTS, THOSE BLACK STUDENTS IN THE SOUTH.

>> TODAY, WE STILL STRUGGLE WITH SOME OF THE PROBLEMS FROM YEARS PAST, RECOGNIZING THAT YOUR ZIP CODE CAN DETERMINE YOUR LIFE EXPECTANCY.

>> MONDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> Ted: HOUSING FIRST PROGRAMS THAT EMPHASIZE HOUSING INTERVENTIONS TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS ARE USED BY A NUMBER OF ARIZONA CITIES AND STOP STATE LAWMAKERS ARE VOLKING FORADVOCATORS ARE ADDRESSING THE ROOT CAUSE.

WE HAVE ANJELICA HARO YASSAMIN ANSARI AND ANJELICA HARO.

>> IT'S PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, WE WANT A SAFE PLACE TO SLEEP, SHELTER BEFORE HAVING ANY OTHER PREREQUISITES AND WHAT IT MEANS IS NOT MANDATING SOMEBODY HAS TO 100% ACCEPT TREATMENT OF SOME SORT OR COMMIT TO SOME SORT OF ABSTINENCE FROM DRUG USE IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET TREATMENT, IF THEY'LL GET SERVICES FROM A PROVIDER.

ULTIMATELY, THE BASIC PREMISE IS THAT, OBVIOUSLY, THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ARE IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION AND WE WANT TO HELP THEM BY FIRST GIVING THEM A SAFE PLACE TO BE.

>> Ted: BUT COMPARE THIS NOW TO THE TREATMENT FIRST APPROACH AND WHY YOU THINK THIS IS A BETTER IDEA.

>> WELL, HOUSING FIRST IS AN EVIDENCE-BASED BEST PRACTICE AND PROVIDED BY THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES SOMETHING.

TREATMENT FIRST ISN'T A REAL THING.

IT'S NOT EVIDENCE-BASED AND IT HASN'T BEEN TESTED AND PROVEN TO WORK AND ANY NATIONAL LEVEL.

IT'S NOT A FUNDED MODEL THROUGH ANY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SOURCE AND IT FORCES PEOPLE INTO A BOX.

IT ALSO MAKES THE ASSUMPTION THAT MAJORITY OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ARE USING DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.

WE DON'T FIND THAT TO BE TRUE.

AND SO THE HOUSING FIRST IS A HARM REDUCTION MODEL WHICH SAYS MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT AND HELP THEM TO TAKE THE STEPS.

>> Ted: FOR THOSE THAT SAY YOU'RE ENABLING AND NOT TREATING THE ROOT CAUSE.

ONE STATE LAWMAKER SAYS THIS DOES NOT TREAT THE ROOT CAUSE AND HOW DO YOU RESPOND?

>> THE ROOT CAUSE OF HOMELESSNESS IS VARIED AND TREATMENT FIRST ASSUMES EVERYONE IS THE SAME.

HOUSING FIRST SAYS YOUR REAL ISSUE MAY BE SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND HER REAL ISSUE MAY BE THAT SHE'S UNEMPLOYED FOR FIVE YEARS.

WE CAN'T PUT A BOX AROUND PEOPLE AND ASSUME THE OUTCOME WILL BE GREAT.

>> Ted: WHAT KIND OF HOUSING IS OPTIMAL FOR A HOUSING FIRST PROGRAM?

>> IF I COULD BUILD OFF OF WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE HOMELESSNESS HOMELESS AND NATIONALLY.

IN THE CITY OF PHOENIX, IN PARTICULAR, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN RENTS INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY AND WAIVES REMAIN STAGNANT AND SEEN A 23% RISE.

IN THE STORIES, INDIVIDUALS AND KLINES CLIENTS THAT THE CITY IS RUNNING, MANY INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN EVICTED AND THEY HAVE FALLEN ON HARD TIMES.

THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE ONE-PAYCHECK AWAY FROM BEING HOMELESS.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ROOT CAUSES AND ENABLING, I THINK THAT'S A MASSIVE MISCONCEPTION.

>> Ted: BACK TO MY QUESTION, AS FAR AS THE CITY IS CONCERNED, OPTIMAL HOUSING CONDITIONS.

REQUIREMENTS AND AT SOME POINT, SOMEONE WHO MIGHT HAVE A DRUG AND ALCOHOL PROBLEM, THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

>> SO WE HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SHELTERS.

OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE HAD A THOUSAND SHELTER BEDS AT THE CITY.

OUR SHELTERS DO NOT ALLOW DRUG OR ALCOHOL USE.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED DO THAT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE COMMITTING TO NOT DOING IT AGAIN, BUT YOU CAN'T USE IT THERE.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE WASHINGTON STREET SHELTER NEAR THE AIRPORT.

IT HAS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL PAW OF THEBECAUSE OF THE WRAP-AROUND SERVICES.

WE'RE NOT JUST PROVIDING A PLACE TO SLEEP BY ONE NIGHT.

THEY MAY HIRE YOU TO WORK FOR THEM AND YOU HAVE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AND THE GOAL THERE IS TO END YOUR HOMELESSNESS AND THE SAME WORK THAT AMY AND HER TEAM IS DOING.

THE IDEA IS TO BE SHELTER AND FIND PERMANENT HOUSING.

>> Ted: WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THOSE REFUSING SERVICES?

YOU SHOW THEM A PLACE TO STAY.

>> WE KEEP WORKING WITH THEM AND ENGAGING AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TRIED TO CHANGE THE WORD OF HOUSING FIRST TO HOUSING ONLY.

IT'S HOUSING WITH THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND BECOMES INCUMBENT ON HOW TO OFFER SERVICES TO ENGAGE.

SOME PEOPLE, THEIR JOURNEY TAKES A YEAR OR TWO YEARS AND OTHERS, IT'S A WEEK AND DEPENDS ON WHAT IS GOING ON AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

IT'S ON US AS SERVICE PROVIDERS TO TREAT EACH INDIVIDUAL AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY NEED IN THEIR JOURNEY.

>> Ted: ARE YOU SEEING A CHANGE IN ATTITUDE, A CHANGE IN THOUGHT, TENOR, TONE, REGARDING THIS ISSUE, OVERALL?

>> DEFINITELY.

NATIONAL CONVERSATION, OUR STATE LEGISLATURE, THERE'S A CONVERSATION AND FOR ME, I WISH WE WEREN'T SPENDING TIME DEBATING HOUSING FIRST, WHICH IS APPROVED, AND I WISH HOW TO CREATE ENOUGH HOUSING SO EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO LIVE IN ARIZONA CAN AFFORD A HOME.

>> Ted: LAST QUESTION.

HOW DO YOU CREATE ENOUGH HOUSING FOR THIS IN THE CITY OF PHOENIX AND IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE I DON'T WANT THIS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD?

>> IT'S A CITY ISSUE AND STATE ISSUE AND ALSO A FEDERAL ISSUE.

AT THE CITY THIS PAST YEAR, WE DID A LOT OF WORK ON ZONING REFORM AND I LEAD THE CHARGE IN BUILDING ADU'S ON FAMILY LOTS.

WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, WE'RE TOUTING HOW PHOENIX IS THE THE FIFTH LARGEST GROWING IN THE COUNTRY AND OUR HOUSING AND NOT KEPT UP WITH THAT.

WE'RE DOING MORE HOUSING REFORM AROUND MARKING MINIMUMS PARKING MINIMUMS AND IT NEEDS TO BE ALONG PUBLIC LIGHT RAIL AND PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEMS.

TO ME, THE HOUSING AND SHORTAGE OF HOUSING IS THE ROOT CAUSE AND WITHOUT THAT BEING ADDRESSED, WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE CHALLENGES.

>> Ted: YASSAMIN ANSARI AND AMY SCHWEBENLENDER, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

♪♪ ♪♪ >> THE FORMER NATO CHIEF IF THE U.S.

DOES NOT APPROVE MORE AID FOR UKRAINE.

THAT'S COMING UP ON ARIZONA PBS.

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>> Ted: FASHION AND ENGINEERING STUDENTS AT ASU TEAMED UP THAT CHILDREN UNDERGOING CHEMOTHERAPY CAN WEAR.

THIS IS AN INTERESTING PROGRAM AND WE HAVE GALINA MITTALUVA FROM THE ASU SCHOOL OF ART AND JOHN JORDAN FROM ASU POLYTECHNIC.

YOU HAVE FRIENDS JOINING YOU.

CLOTHES FOR KIDS UNDERGOING CHEMO, EXPLAIN, PLEASE.

>> WE CHALLENGED OUR STUDENTS TO STEP OUT FROM THEIR COMFORT ZONE AND TO DESIGN ONLY FOR LOOK.

SO THIS TIME, WE HAVE PATIENTS IN MIND.

THEY ARE WARRIORS AND THE STUDENTS MET THE LITTLE WARRIORS AND THEN THEY PAIRED WITH THE ENGINEERS.

WE CREATED BEAUTIFUL COLLABORATIVE GROUPS.

AND THEN, THE PROCESS BEGUN.

THEY DESIGNED CLOTHING THAT CAN ASSIST LITTLE WARRIORS, LITTLE CHILDREN DURING THE CHEMO.

SOSOTHEY DON'T FEEL LONELY.

THIS LITTLE BEAR HAS SOMETHING AND WHEN THE CHILDREN FEEL LOCALLY, THEY CAN PATCHLONELY, THEY CAN PATCH IT AND IT GIVES THEM A SENSE OF COMFORT AND THEY HAVE A FRIEND NEXT TO THEM.

>> Ted: YES.

>> AND THEN WE HAVE A JACKET AND IT'S COORDINATED WITH THE LITTLE BEAR AND ANOTHER PROJECT HERE, AND IT'S BEEN BREATHING.

SO DURING THE CHEMOTHERAPY, MOST TIME, KIDS GET TO BREATHE AND, AND THIS LITTLE SENSOR THAT IS IN THE JACKET WILL SENSE THE BREATHING PATTERN THAT'S NOT CORRECT AND THEN THE LITTLE BUTTERFLY WILL START TO OPEN AND CLOSE TO GIVE THEM DIRECTION ON THAT.

>> Ted: CAN WE GET A SHOT OF THE BUTTERFLY SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S A SENSOR THAT HELPS KIDS UNDERGOING CHEMOTHERAPY, IT HELPS TO KEEP TRACK OF THINGS AND IN SOME RESPECTS, THE BEAR AND OTHERRENINGS, IT HELPS TO CALM THEM AND DISTRACT THEM AND JUST HELPS.

>> THAT'S THE GOAL.

FROM AN ELECTRONIC'S PERSPECTIVE, ENGINEERS, THIS IS ABOUT SENSORS AND MARRIAGE MICROCONTROL COMPUTER.

THERE'S A SMALL MOTOR THAT CAUSES THE BUTTERFLY WINGS TO FLAP.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, FROM THE USER PERSPECTIVE, IT'S MONITORING A PULSE RATE AND THEN IS CONTROLLING THE RATE OF THE BUTTERFLY WINGS AND PULSE.

>> Ted: THAT GOES WITH THE JACKET ON YOUR FRIEND?

>> IT'S MEANT TO BE A WRIST PIECE, YES.

>> Ted: INTERESTING.

SO THERE'S THE FRIEND AND THIS JACKET HAS ALL SORTS OF POCKETS AND THINGS, SHAWN.

IS THAT DESIGNED TO DO THAT?

>> PART OF THAT IS FOR ELECTRONICS BECAUSE OFTEN, CANCER PATIENTS ARE IMMUNOCOMPROMISED.

WE WANT IT TO HAVE COMPLETE PIECES THAT THEY COULD WEAR AND THIS REPRESENTS A BUTTERFLY AND SO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE A BUTTERFLY AND THEY HAVE THIS BUTTERFLY THERE AND WE NEED A PLACE FOR ELECTRONICS THAT DON'T DO WELL IN THE WASHER.

>> Ted: HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO DEVISE FASCIAL FASHIONABLE SENSORS?

>> THEY WERE ORGANIZED FROM MIT AND DEVELOPED SENSORS WHICH ARE FLAT AND WASHABLE AND THE MICROCONTROLLERS LIKE THE LILYPADS WOULD HAVE SOME CIRCLED PLAYGROUND THAT WE LEARN HOW TO USE.

IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT, BUT IT IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE USUALLY, WITH HAVE TWO DIFFERENT BRAINS.

THE FASHION DESIGNERS WANTED TO FOCUS ON AESTHETICS AND ENGINEERS WANTING FUNCTIONALITY.

AND THE EQUILIBRIUM IS THE HARD PART.

BUT FOR THE STUDENTS TO HAVE BOTH SIDES EXPERIENCED, I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLE!

AND FOR ME, THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE, THE FUTURE OF EDUCATION.

>> Ted: SHAWORK N,AWN, WAS IT DIFFICULT AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT LOOK GOOD AND WORK IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

>> FOR THE ENGINEERING STUDENTS, THEY REALLY APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE WITH FASHION STUDENTS ON THIS.

FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, IT TOOK SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF IN TERMS OF THE ESTHETICS.

THERE WAS DEFINITELY A COLLABORATION PIECE WHERE THE ENGINEERS HAD IDEAS OF THE WAY THEY THOUGHT THINGS SHOULD WORK AND THE FASHION DESIGNERS HAD DIFFERENT IDEAS AND HAD TO COME TO COMMON GROUND ON THOSE AND ALSO CONSIDER THE USERS.

>> Ted: WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE HAVE YOU HAD FROM KIDS AND PARENTS?

>> IT'S BEEN AMAZING.

THESE WERE ALL PROTOTYPE PHASE AND WORKING WITH AMANDA HOPE FOUNDATION TO CONTINUE PUSHING THESE INTO FINAL PRODUCTION.

>> Ted: AMANDA HOPE, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT GOT THESE STARTED WITH KIDS AND WARRIORS AND A GREAT DESCRIPTION.

CONGRATULATIONS!

IT MUST BE A GREAT FEELING FOR BOTH OF YOU TO BE INVOLVED.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US AND CONTINUED SUCCESS.

THANKS AGAIN FOR SHARING YOUR STORY AND YOUR LITTLE FRIENDS YOU BROUGHT, TOO.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.