>> Ted: COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, A BREAKDOWN OF YESTERDAY'S IOWA CAUCUS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE.

>>> AND A NEW UNIT AT A LOCAL HOSPITAL FOCUSES ON SPECIALIZED SENIOR CARE.

>>> WE MEET THE LOCAL HOST OF A NATIONAL SOCIAL JUSTICE RADIO SHOW.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

>> THIS HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS IS MADE POSSIBLE FROM FRIENDS OF PBS, MEMBERS OF YOUR PBS STATION.

THANK YOU.

>> I DID MY HOLIDAY SHOPPING ONLINE IN SECONDS AND THEN I GET THIS WEIRD TEXT FROM THE SHIPPING COMPANY WITH A LINK ASKING ME TO CONFIRM MY PAYMENT INFO.

>> RECOGNIZE FRAUD.

>> THAT HAD TO BE A PACKAGE SCAM.

>> Ted: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

GOVERNOR HOBBS PROPOSED A RENEWAL OF PROP 123 FROM K THROUGH 12 PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND WANTS THE DISTRIBUTION TO INCREASE FROM WHERE IT IS NOW AT 6.9% TO 8.9% WITH THE MONEY GOING TO PAY RAISES FOR TEACHERS AND SUPPORT STAFF ALONG WITH SAFETY AND SECURITY FUNDING.

THE PROPOSAL CAME AS THE HOBBS' ADMINISTRATION PRESENTING THIS BEFORE AN APPROPRIATION.

>>> FALLOUT FROM YESTERDAY'S IOWA CAUCUS RESULTING IN DONALD TRUMP WINNING THE REPUBLICAN VOTE WITH EASE.

AND THEY THANKED KARI LAKE FOR HELPING HIM WIN IN THE HOME STATE AND IN THANKING LAKE, TRUMP SAID SHE WOULD, QUOTE, BE A GREAT SENATOR WHICH RULES OUT HER BEING TRUMP'S RUNNINGMATE SHOULD HE WIN THE NOMINATION.

V ROMVIVEK RAMASWAMY AND HUTCHINSON DROPPED OUT AND NIKKI HALEY AND RON DESANTIS ARE DEBATING.

>> THAT'S WHO I'M RUNNING AGAINST AND WANT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, HE'S THE FRONTRUNNER AND THE ONE I'M SEVEN POINTS AWAY FROM AND THE ONE WE'RE FIGHTING FOR.

THERE'S NOBODY ELSE I NEED TO DEBATE.

IF HE'S ON THE STAGE, I'M THERE.

>> WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A DEBATE ON THURSDAY NIGHT AND I'M COMMITTED.

SHE'S NOW SAYING SHE WON'T DEBATE AND I UNDERSTAND WHY.

>> Ted: WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THE IOWA CAUCUS RESULTS IN JUST A MOMENT.

>>> OTHER HEADLINES OF NOTE, A NEW SURVEY SHOWING AN AMERICAN DIVIDE ON AFFIRMATIVE ACTION FINDING 56% OF THOSE OVER AGE 40 VIEWED THE SUPREME COURT'S OVERTURNING OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION NEGATIVELY AND DROPPED TO 38%.

THE RULING WOULD MAKE IT HARDER FOR PERSPECTIVE BLACK STUDENTS TO HARD COLLEGE.

>>> A NEW STUDENT FINDS DRINKING A GLASS OR MORE OF 100% FRUIT JUICE A DAY IS LINKED TO WEIGHT GAIN IN CHILDREN AND ADULTS.

DOCTORS SAY IT'S LIKELY BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO GULP DOWN TOO MUCH FRUIT JUICE IN ONE SETTING AND SHOULD BE SEEN AS AN OCCASIONAL TREAT AND NOT THIRST WEATHER.

ALBUQUERQUE QUENCHER.

>>> JOINING US IS DENNIS GOLDFORD, THE PROFESSOR.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN A BUSY TIME AND LET'S START OFF WITH THE RESULTS.

ANY SURPRISES HERE AT ALL?

>> NOT REALLY, ACTUALLY.

EVERYBODY THOUGHT THIS WAS TRUMP AND HE HAS A SOLID SUPPORT IN THEINTHIS IOWA AND NIKKI HALEY, THEY THOUGHT SHE WOULD BE AHEAD OF RON DESANTIS AND DIDN'T GO THAT WAY.

IT WASN'T THE MOST INTERESTING CAUCUS SEASON I'VE SEEN.

>> Ted: INTERESTING.

SO BASICALLY, WAS THIS JUST A RACE FOR SECOND PLACE?

>> THE OLD SAYING CLOSE COUNTS IN HORSESHOES AND HAND GRENADES AND THIS IS A PRETTY DISTANT SECOND PLACE, ALMOST 30 POINTS BEHIND THE FRONTRUNNER.

THE GENERAL STRATEGY OF DeSANTIS WAS TO EMERGE AS THE ALTERNATIVE TO DONALD TRUMP TO DEFEAT THE REST OF THE FIELD AND THAT HASN'T GONE SO WELL FOR HIM SO FAR.

THE ROAD SHOW MOVED ON TO NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH CAROLINA.

>> Ted: INDEED.

AS FAR AS WINNING, THOUGH, HE GOT 5 IS% OF 51% OF THE VOTE, TRUMP DID AND THAT MEANS THE OTHER 50% OF THE REPUBLICANS SAID THEY WANT SOMEONE ELSE.

DOES THIS BOOST HIS CAMPAIGN?

>> IT DOES.

HE WANTS A SENSE OF ABILITY, BUT THE SECOND QUESTION, DO YOU SUPPORT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AS THE NOMINEE?

THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION AND THE SECOND QUESTION, EVEN IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT HIM, IF HE'S THE NOMINEE, WILL YOU VOTE FOR HIM IN NOVEMBER AND QUITE A FEW SAID THEY WOULD.

SO HE'S SITTING FAIRLY WELL AT THE MOMENT.

>> Ted: YOU MENTION THE ROAD SHOW MOVING ON TO NEW HAMP HAMPSHIRE, IT WAS SO CLOSE BETWEEN DeSANTIS AND H ALEY.

>> IT'S HOW MUCH LONGER WILL HE BE VIABLE IN TERMS OF FUNDING.

ALL CHALLENGERS TO TRUMP KEPT TRYING TO RUN AGAINST TRUMP WITHOUT RUNNING AGAINST HIM.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ALIENATE THE CORE TRUMP BASE AND THEY NEVER CRACKED THAT NUT IN IOWA.

>> Ted: WHO HAD THE BEST GROUND OPERATION AMONG THOSE IN IOWA?

>> REALLY TRUMP.

I FOLLOWED HIM LOCALLY HERE IN 2015 AND 2016 AND WENT TO A LOT OF REPUBLICAN EVENTS.

AT THE TIME, HE WAS THE ENTERTAINMENT AT THAT POINT.

HE WOULD SHOW UP AND MAKE A FEW COMMENTS, CRACK A FEW JOKES AND THE SO-CALLED SERIOUS CANDIDATES COULD COME ON AND NOBODY EXPECTED THE OUTCOME.

HE HAD NO ORGANIZATION IN '15 OR '16.

IT WAS ONLY THE CELEBRITY OR REGULAR APPRENTICE, BASICALLY.

THEY HAD A MUCH BETTER, MUCH MORE FULLY STAFFED AND FUNDED ORGANIZATION THIS TIME BECAUSE I THINK HE WAS AFRAID HE WOULD FAIL TO MEET EXPECTATIONS OF A HIGH TURNOUT FOR HIM.

AND THAT WOULD BE SEEN AS A WEAKNESS.

>> Ted: THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THE IMPRESSION FROM FAR AWAY IS THAT HE IGNORED IOWA, SAID I'LL WIN IT AND NOT PAYING TOO MUCH ATTENTION.

>> WELL, HE DIDN'T SHOW UP SO MUCH HIMSELF PERSONALLY, BUT HE HAD THAT ORGANIZATION WORKING WELL.

AT THE SAME TIME, REMEMBER, PEOPLE TEND TO OVERREAD THE IOWA CAUCUSES.

ONLY ABOUT 15% OF ELIGIBLE REPUBLICANS ACTUALLY TURNED TOUT TO PARTICIPATE AND ONLY 110,000 PEOPLE.

IT STATE ITSELF HAS 3.2 MILLION AND CLOSE TO 200 MILLION REGISTERED VOTERS IN THE COUNTRY.

YOU'RE TALKING 110,000 PEOPLE, SWINGING A BIG BATH.

>> Ted: AS FAR AS THE ISSUES YOU HEARD, WHAT WAS TOP OF MIND AMONG THOSE WHO DID CAST A BALLOT?

>> H ACTORALEY WAS CAMPAIGNING AS A REAGANIET CONSERVATIVE IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC POLICY AND ESPECIALLY FOREIGN POLICY.

TRUMP HAS TRANSMAGAFIED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THAT'S BASED MORE UPON -- YOU CAN SAY IT AS CULTURE WAR ISSUES.

TRUMP TAPPED INTO GRIEVANCE, ANGER AND FEAR THAT IN 2016, THE OTHER POLITICIANS DIDN'T TOUCH ON.

SO TRUMP IS FOCUSED ON IMMIGRATION AND RAN SOME ADS TOUTING SUCCESS WITH THE ECONOMY OVER THE PAST WEEK.

AND AGAIN, THE CONCERN ABOUT BORDER WALL.

>> Ted: DENNIS, ARE REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN IOWA TIRED OF THE DRAMA?

HE WINS YESTERDAY AND HE'S IN A COURTROOM TODAY.

HE'S FACING DOZENS OF CHARGES.

IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MATTER, DOES IT?

>> NO, IT DOESN'T.

IF ANYTHING, PEOPLE SAY IT STRENGTHENS HIM.

OVER THE PAST DECADE OR MORE, THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE BUILT IN WHICH TRUMP SUPPORTERS LIVE AND, OF COURSE, HE WON THE LAST ELECTION UNTIL HE WAS DEFRAUDED OF IT.

THE CHARGES ARE ALL POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AND LIVE IN THAT PARTICULAR WORLD AND THAT'S THEIR FACT PATTERN AND NOTHING OUTSIDE CAN SHAKE THAT.

>> Ted: YOU REFERRED TO IOWA EARLIER AND THERE'S CRITICISM IOWA PLAYS AN OUTSIDE ROLE, TALKING ABOUT 2% IN REPUBLICAN DELEGATES NATIONWIDE ARE DECIDED HERE.

ISIOWA DOESN'T PICK WINNERS OFTEN IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, DOES IT?

>> IOWA IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S FIRST.

WHY IS IOWA FIRST?

SIMPLY HISTORICAL ACCIDENT.

THE CRITIQUE OF IOWA THIS TERMS OF NOT BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COUNTRY IS MORE IN THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, THE KIND OF ETHNIC, RACIAL, RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY IN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.

YOU DON'T SEE IT IN IOWA VERY MUCH, BUT ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BECOME THE PARTY OF RURAL AND SMALL-TOWN AMERICA.

IN THAT SENSE, IOWA REPUBLICANS ARE MUCH MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF REPUBLICANS NATIONWIDE THAN IOWA DEMOCRATS ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF DEMOCRATS NATIONWIDE.

>> Ted: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME BECAUSE WE APPRECIATE IT.

I KNOW IT'S BUSY THERE.

THE WEATHER, WE KEPT HEARING SO MUCH AND OBVIOUSLY, CRAZY STUFF.

DID IT AFFECT THE TURNOUT?

>> THAT'S WHAT MOST OF US THINK IS THE CASE.

IT'S 136 OR 137,000 AND IT WAS 110,000 THIS TIME.

THEY SHOWED ON THE LOCAL NEWS AWHILE AGO IN MORE OF THE RURAL AREAS AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE MORE TRUMP SUPPORTERS, AMONG OTHERS, OF COURSE.

GRAVEL ROADS, PLOWS AND TRACTORS TRYING TO DIG THEM OUT IN CREATING THESE WALLS OF SNOW ON EITHER SIDE OF THE GRAVEL ROAD SO PEOPLE CAN GET THROUGH.

SO YEAH, BASICALLY, AFTER THE LAST WEEK IN IOWA, I WANT TO MOVE TO THE NORTH POLL TO GET WARMTH.

>> Ted: DENNIS GOLDFORD, THANK YOU FOR HELPING US NAVIGATE OR WAY THROUGH THE IOWA CAUCUS.

>> ALWAYS A PLEASURE.

>> Ted: UP NEXT, AN ACUTE CARE UNIT FOR OLDER, HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS.

>> DISCOVER A NEW WORLD WHERE EVERY LITTLE STEP HELPS.

♪♪ >> THIS ISTRAVEL THROUGH A LAND OF GIANTS TO FIND THE FUTURE WITH THE NEXT GENERATION.

THE GREATEST ADVENTURES ARE THE SMALLEST.

WEDNESDAY NIGHT AT 7:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

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WE'LL MARVEL AT THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE ISLANDS.

THEN WE'LL SEE HOW GREEK SOCIETY BLASTS INTO A GOLDEN AGE AND TRAP ANCIENT GREEK ART TO START STATUTES THAT SET BEAUTIFUL.

>> THIS IS THURSDAY, WEDNESDAY NIGHTTHURSDAY AT 7:00.

>> Ted: HIGHLIGHTING ISSUES OF OLDER ADULTS, WE LOOK AT A NEW ACUTE CARE UNIT AT BANNER UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER IN PHOENIX THAT FOCUSES ON REDUCING THE LENGTH OF TIME OLDER PATIENTS STAY IN THE HOSPITAL.

WE LEARN MORE FROM DR. NIMIT AGARWAL, THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR AT THE BANNER CENTER AND SUSAN DUMPFEL, A NURSE NAVIGATOR FOR THE UNIT.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: DOCTOR, WE'LL START WITH YOU, THE ACUTE CARE FOR ELDER'S UNIT, WHAT IS THAT?

>> IT LOOKS AT PATIENTS FROM NOT ONLY A DISEASE PERSPECTIVE BUT FOCUSING ON SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO MOBILITY.

WHEN PATIENTS COME INTO THE HOSPITAL, THEY CAN GET CONFINED IN BED BECAUSE THEY'RE CONCERNED THEY WILL FALL.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PHYSICIANS ARE LOOKING AT THE WALKING IN THE HOSPITAL SO THEY DON'T LOSE FUNCTION AND WHEN THEY LEAVE THE HOSPITAL, THEY GET BACK TO DRIVING OR WHATEVER THEY WERE DOING.

AND THAT'S THE FOCUS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE FOR THIS ACUTE CARE AT BANNER UNIVERSITY.

>> Ted: AND HOW DUDS DOES THAT DIFFER FROM TRADITIONAL CARE?

>> TRADITIONAL CARE IS DISEASE MANAGEMENT.

HERE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ADDING ELEMENTING OF CARE, LIKE MOBILITY, AND WHAT MATTERS TO OUR PATIENTS AND A DEDICATED FASHION.

TRAINING THE NURSING STAFF AND TRAINING OF THERAPISTS AND PHARMACISTS ON MAKE SURE THE ELEMENTS OF CARE ARE CHECKED ON EVERY PATIENT AND NOT JUST ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

>> Ted: SUSAN, YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE YOU'RE A NURSE NAVIGATOR AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> I'M A GERIATRIC NURSE NAVIGATOR AND NOT ONLY TO SUPPORT THE NURSING STAFF, THE THERAPISTS AND THE PEOPLE TAKING CARE OF THE PATIENTS BUT HELPING PATIENTS AND FAMILIES TO FOE KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO TO SUPPORT THEIR ELDERS.

>> Ted: COMPARE THAT TO THE WORK IN THE PAST.

>> FOR ME, IT WAS EYE-OPENING TO SEE THE CHANGES, PARTICULARLY POST COVID, THE CHALLENGES THAT ALL HOSPITALS AND EVERYWHERE THAT PROVIDES CARE HAS.

SO I WAS THE NURSE NAVIGATOR AND THEN BOTH MY PARENTS ENDED UP BEING PATIENTS ON THE UNIT.

>> Ted: HOW DID THAT WORK OUT?

IF IT WHAT SEER RESIDENT SERENDIPIPTY, THAT WOULD BE IT.

>> I KNEW THERE WERE EXPERT GERIATRICIAN HOSPITALLISTS TO LOOK AT MY PARENTS AND KNOW THE SPECIFIC THINGS.

AND THEY'RE IN THEIR 90S.

MY FATHER WAS HOSPITALIZED FIRST WITH A BROKEN HIP AND HIS DEMENTIA AND HIS CONFUSION BECAME MORE SO HOSPITALIZED.

I WAS AVAILABLE TO PUT INTO THE PLACE EVERYTHING WE PREACH.

COME STAY WITH YOUR LOVED ONES, BRING YOU HEARING AIDS AND GLASSES.

JUST BE THERE 24/7 AND IT WAS SO IMPORTANT WITH MY FATHER.

HE WOULD WAKE UP, FORGET HE HAD SURGERY AND TRY TO GET OUT OF BED AND OH, DAD, NO, IT'S OK. WHAT DO YOU NEED?

OH, YOU'RE THERE, OK.

HE WOULD GO BACK TO SLEEP.

I GOT TO SEE WHAT IT WAS THAT DR. ARGAWAL IS SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

>> Ted: THESE THINGS MAY NOT BE FOUND IN MORE TRADITIONAL CARE.

>> SOIT'S A DANGEROUS SYNDROME BECAUSE IT CAN AFFECT LIFE-LONG CHALLENGES THAT FUNCTION AND IT CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS LIKE PATIENTS WHO ARE DRIVING IN THE COMMUNITY CAN GO BACK TO DRIVING AFTER HOSPITALIZATION.

IT AFFECTS THEIR LIFE.

COMMON SENSE APPROACHES, HAVING THE FAMILY BE THERE, THE FAMILY MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY WITH DEMENTIA, THEY'RE DEPENDENT ON THEIR FAMILY MEMBER.

IF YOU BREAK THAT, IT CAN CAUSE CHALLENGES FOR PATIENTS.

JUST LIKE FOR SUSAN'S DAD AND MOM WHO WENT INTO THE HOSPITAL, THEY KNOW SUSAN, BUT WHEN I COME AS A SEPARATE PERSON, AS A DOCTOR, THEY DO NOT KNOW ME VERY WELL.

BUT THEN SUSAN HOLDS THEIR HAND AND BRINGS A DIFFERENT KIND OF CARE AND OUTCOME FOR PATIENTS LIKE THIS.

>> Ted: YOU MENTIONED MOBILITY.

BUT FALLS, SO IMPORTANT FOR OLDER FOLKS, THE IMPACT OF THIS KIND OF CARE ON THAT.

>> IF YOU'RE JUST LAYING IN BED, THAT CAN CAUSE MUSCLE FUNCTION, ESPECIALLY FOR OLDER PATIENTS WHO HAVE A RISK.

IT BECOMES EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T LOSE THE SINGLE HOUR WHEN THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF BED SPOT CHAIR AND INTO THE CHAIR.

THAT WILL HAVE LONG-TERM OUTCOMES FOR INCREASED RISK FOR WALKING AIDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THOSE CHALLENGES CAN OCCUR.

>> Ted: SUSAN, THAT ALL RINGS A BELL WITH YOU, I WOULD IMAGINE.

>> YES.

MY PARENTS, WHO WERE BOTH HOSPITALIZED IN THE SPRING AND SUMMER, THEY WERE ABLE TO CELEBRATE THEIR 70th WEDDING ANNIVERSARY WITH US AND HAVE CHRISTMAS TOGETHER DESPITE BOTH OF THEN HAVING A COUPLE OF HOSPITALIZATIONS.

SO BEING ABLE TO BE IN THE UNIT AND RECEIVING THAT CARE REALLY ALLOWED THEM TO GO BACK TO WHERE THEY LIVED AND CARRY ON WITH LIFE.

>> Ted: WHICH IS THE GOAL.

LAST QUESTION QUICKLY HERE YEAR GERIATRIC CARE, IS IT EVOLVING.

>> WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE PATIENT ANYMORE BUT THE PERSON AS A WHOLE THROUGH FUNCTION AND ABILITY.

AND MEDICATIONS THAT THEY'RE USING, MAKING SURE IT'S NOT HARMFUL AND CONNECTING TO WHAT MATTERS.

>> Ted: DR. NIMIT AGARWAL AND SUSAN DUMPFEL, GOOD TO YOU HAVE BOTH AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, TED.

♪♪ ♪♪ >> TONIGHT ON THE NEWS HOUR, WHAT DONALD TRUMP'S LANDSLIDE VICTORY IN IOWA SAYS ABOUT HIS INFLUENCE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

THAT'S COMING UP AT 6:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> Ted: A NEW RADIO SHOW LOOKS TO CREATE DIALOGUE THAT CAN HELP TO BRIDGE SOME OF THE CULTURAL DIVIDES SEPARATING THE COUNTRY AND IT'S A NATIONAL BROADCAST THAT IS PRODUCED HERE LOCALLY.

JOINING US NOW, THE SHOW'S COHOST, QUINTON LORD AND RAMSES JAH.

>> THIS IS A PLACE FOR US TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OPPOSING OPINIONS IN OUR COUNTRY THAT REPRESENT UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES.

THE OBJECTIVE IS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF BEING FURTHER DIVIDED.

>> Ted: HOW DO YOU KEEP IT FROM BEING A FIGHT.

>> I'LL LET RAMSES LEAD ON THAT ONE.

[LAUGHTER] >> SO WE THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO THAT.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF INFORMATION AND A LOT OF PERSPECTIVES, THEY'RE NOT SHARED.

SO WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO WALK DOWN A THE STREET AT NIGHT AS A BLACK MAN VERSUS A WOMAN AND TO LET OUR SISTERS WHO ARE CAUCASIAN KNOW THAT.

HAVING CONVERSATIONS THAT START IN PLACES LIKE THAT, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BLIND SPOTS, IT INTERESTS PEOPLE AND ENGAGES THEN IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

>> Ted: EMPOWERING BLACK AND BROWN VOICES AND YOU REFERRED TO THAT EARLIER AND EITHER ONE, BETTER EXPLANATION OF THAT AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN, RAMSES?

>> DURING 2020, WHEN THE SHOW WAS FOUNDED, DURING A PROTEST, WE RECOGNIZED THAT WE'RE BROADCASTERS HERE IN ARIZONA AND WE WOULD PLAY CARDI B.

RECORDS AND ALL THE FUN STUFF AND RECOGNIZED THERE WERE A LOT OF VOICES LEADING THESE PROTESTS AND BRILLIANT MINDS THAT HAD NO LACE, IN THE MEDIA SPACE, TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT AND WE DECIDED TO CREATE THAT FOR THEM.

>> Ted: WHO HAVE YOU HAD?

>> A BUNCH OF LOCAL LEADERS, DR. TIMOTHY WESTONBURG HA IS WHO WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE LOCAL NAACP.

>> WE'VE HAD THEO WILSON ON AND WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE ON DR. RUSS W IGINTON TO RECAP THE MLK WEEKEND AND HOW IT WAS WHITE-WASHED.

>> Ted: GO WITH THAT.

HOW HAS IT BEEN WHITE-WASHED?

>> YOU DON'T KNOW?

>> Ted: NO.

>> A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T KNOW, DR. KING, HIS APPROVAL RATING WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 0% 0 20% AND SANITIZED TO REFLECT WHAT AN IDEAL AMERICA COULD BE AND WE FORGET THAT THE SAME RACISM WE PROTECT DOESN'T EXIST IS WHAT BOILED OVER AND TOOK HIS LIFE.

SO NOT JUST THAT, BUT DR. KING IN HIS FINAL DAYS WAS SHIFTING AWAY TOWARD LITTLE BLACK GIRLS AND LITTLE WHITE BOYS AND TOWARD FISCAL IMPLICATIONS AND THE FISCAL DIVIDE IN THIS COUNTRY AND WORKING ALONGSIDE POORER WHITES AND SO FORTH.

THAT'S WHAT GOT HIM IN MORE DANGEROUS GROUNDS AND ULTIMATELY COST HIM HIS LIFE.

>> Ted: WHAT OTHER KINDS OF THINGS ARE DISCUSSED?

AND HOW LONG DO THESE DISCUSSIONS GO AND HOW DO YOU KEEP IT FROM BECOMING ROCK'EM, SOCK'EM?

>> THE MOST OBVIOUS THING TO POINT OUT, IS IF E WE WE HAD TO TAKE PAPER TO DIVIDE US THAT ARE DIFFERENT AND WHAT MAKES US THE SAME, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THINGS THAT'S DEVICIVE AND DIFFERENT, IT'S A SHORT LIST.

THE WAY WE PRAY AND LOVE AND OUR GENDER, THAT'S IT WHEN.

THE DESIRE FOR OUR FAMILIES TO HAVE A HEALTHY, PROSPEROUS LIFE AND LOVE FOR EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, THE TEAM THAT YOU ROOT FOR AND CITY THAT YOU LIVE IN, YOU CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS FOR HOURS ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

WE TRY AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO HIGHLIGHT THE THING THAT WE HAVE IN COMMON AND THEN WE REALIZE THE THINGS THAT DIVIDE US ARE VERY, VERY SMALL AND HAVE BEEN MAGNIFIED IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE BECOME ENEMIES ON OPPOSING SIDES OF SOME FIGHT.

INSTEAD OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SUBTLE, SLIGHT DIFFERENCES OF OPINION.

>> Ted: WHAT RESPONSE HAVE YOU HAD TO THIS?

>> AS ILLUSTRATED BY THE FACT THE SHOW IS CARRIED ON OVER 70 RADIO STATIONS OVER THE COUNTRY AND FEATURED IN PRESS RANGING FROM VANITY FAIR TO ROLLING STONE TO CNN TO, YOU KNOW, PBS.

>> Ted: ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO MANY AWARDS AND ACCO ACCOLADES.

WE'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO HELP AND SPREAD AND CHAMPIONING DI INITIATIVES AND WE RECOGNIZE AND REALIZE THEY'RE UNDER ATTACK AT PRESENT.

WE WOULD SAY THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING AND WANT THIS.

>> Ted: WITH THAT IN MIND, HOW DO PEOPLE FIND THE PROGRAM?

>> YOU CAN FIND US ON ALL SOCIAL MEDIA, I AM RAMSES JAH AND I AM HUGH WARD.

>> Ted: BEFORE YOU GO, HAS THIS EVOLVED FROM THE WAY YOU FIRST SAW IT?

WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

>> WE WERE ON ONE STATION AND WHAT WE ASKED FOR WAS PUBLIC SERVICE TIME FOR COMMUNITY LEADERS TO GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT AND HERE WE STAND TODAY, OVER 70 STATIONS ACROSS THE U.S. >> Ted: CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR SUCCESS AND CONTINUED SUCCESS AND THANK YOU BOTH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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