- Are you surprised he's even going?

I mean, that seemed to be the conventional wisdom is that Marty Walsh was gonna run for another term because it's the job he always wanted, mayor for life.

- No, I'm not surprised, Joe.

And I did an about-face on this myself.

First of all, some listeners may remember that back in July, I said that Walsh might be under consideration for the secretary of the labor job.

So that's a good for me.

(Joe chuckling) Here's a bad for me.

I think Walsh wanted this job so dearly that he used his now clearly political skills to just will away the rumors.

He convinced everyone that he was staying, and there were real signs of it.

And by the way, that was a smart thing to do, because it's not his choice to go there, it was Joe Biden's choice.

You know, he raised almost $400,000 in the last several weeks.

That's not the action of someone who's a placeholder.