MAULL: DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU LIKE OR JUST WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE?

>> I HATE BRUSSELS SPROUTS.

>> I REALLY LIKE STRING BEANS.

>> I LOVE CARROTS.

>> ANY HERBAL TEA IS GREAT.

>> COFFEE.

>> TEA FOR ME.

>> MINT CHOCOLATE CHIP ICE CREAM.

>> I LOVE COOKIE DOUGH.

>> CHOCOLATE.

>> VANILLA.

>> I LOVE A GOOD CHEESEBURGER.

>> I WOULD NEVER PASS UP A GOOD PIZZA.

>> ABSOLUTE FAVORITE WOULD BE A CHEESESTEAK.

>> MY FAVORITE COLOR IS DEFINITELY PINK.

>> I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF YELLOW.

>> I LOVE YELLOW.

>> I LIKE BLUE.

>> BLUE, UM, BUT THE RIGHT BLUE.

[ALARM BEEPING] [CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYING] ANNOUNCER: FUNDING FOR THIS SERIES HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY JEAN BURGDORFF, JUDY MUSICANT AND HUGH CLARK, ELLIOT AND MARYJEANETTE DEE, THE GERALDINE R. DODGE FOUNDATION, MR. & MRS. JAMES R. GILLEN, THE GLENMEDE TRUST COMPANY, MICHAEL J. JOHNSTON, THE ROBERT MILLS FOUNDATION, THE BILL AND PATRICIA O'CONNOR CHARITABLE FUND, MR. & MRS. STERLING L. PIERSON, THE JOHN BEN SNOW MEMORIAL TRUST, JUDY AND JOSH WESTON, DAVID AND ELLEN WILLIAMS.

A COMPLETE LIST OF FUNDERS IS AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST FROM THE DISCOVERY ORCHESTRA-- WWW.DISCOVERYORCHESTRA.ORG.

THIS PROGRAM IS ALSO MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY FUNDS FROM THE NEW JERSEY STATE COUNCIL ON THE ARTS, A PARTNER AGENCY OF THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS.

MAULL: WELCOME BACK.

I'M GEORGE MARRINER MAULL, ARTISTIC DIRECTOR OF THE DISCOVERY ORCHESTRA.

THIS IS ALREADY OUR THIRD VISIT TOGETHER.

TIME FLIES WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN, AS THEY SAY, AND YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE "THEY" SAY, DON'T YOU?

TO EACH HIS OWN.

NOW, WE'RE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT THAT OLD SAYING MEANS.

WE'VE EACH GOT OUR OWN SET OF LIKES AND DISLIKES, A SET OF TASTES WE'VE ACQUIRED OVER THE YEARS THROUGH OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCES AND AS THE RESULT OF OUR INDIVIDUAL CULTURAL PROGRAMMING, BUT ARE THESE LIKES AND DISLIKES HOLDING US HOSTAGE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO LISTENING TO AND ENJOYING MUSIC?

ARE WE HARBORING PREJUDICES THAT KEEP US FROM BROADENING OUR HORIZONS AND REALLY APPRECIATING THAT WHOLE WIDE, WONDERFUL WORLD OF MUSIC OUT THERE?

LET'S EXPLORE.

IF WE ASK A LOT OF PEOPLE, "WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOOD MUSIC?"

OR, "WHAT DO YOU THINK IS BAD MUSIC?"

WE GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT ANSWERS.

PEOPLE FEEL VERY EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO THE MUSIC THEY LIKE, AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT ONCE THEY THINK THEY KNOW A KIND OF MUSIC THEY DON'T LIKE, THAT THEY COULD NEVER EVER LIKE, YOU CAN ALMOST HEAR THEIR MINDS SLAMMING SHUT.

[SLAM] WHEN WE'VE ASKED PEOPLE, THEY SAY THINGS LIKE... >> I HATE RAP.

>> MY LEAST FAVORITE MUSIC IS PROBABLY, LIKE, ELECTRONIC DANCE MUSIC.

>> I REALLY DISLIKE PROGRESSIVE JAZZ.

>> ABSOLUTELY HATE, I'D HAVE TO SAY RADIO COUNTRY.

>> I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE-- I GUESS THEY CALL IT THE ELECTRONIC DJ MUSIC THAT'S PLAYED IN THE CLUBS.

MAULL: AND THEY'RE ADAMANT ABOUT THEIR POSITIONS, BUT INTERESTINGLY, WE'VE ALSO FOUND THAT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS WHEN YOU TAKE THE CONVERSATION UP TO A TOTALLY NEW PLANE AND ASK THEM, "IS THIS MUSIC?

DOES THIS EVEN QUALIFY AS MUSIC?"

WHAT YOU JUST LISTENED TO, IS THAT MUSIC?

>> WELL, OF COURSE IT'S MUSIC.

IT'S NOT MUSIC THAT I WOULD PARTICULARLY LIKE TO LISTEN TO, BUT IT'S MUSIC.

YEAH.

>> I DON'T KNOW, NOT SO MUCH FOR ME.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I DON'T CONSIDER IT MUSIC.

NO.

>> YES.

IT WAS MUSIC.

IT HAD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RHYTHM AND INTEREST IN LIFE AND JUST PICKED UP IN CERTAIN AREAS, AND IT GOT MY ATTENTION.

>> I'M SURE SOMEBODY WOULD BEG TO DIFFER, BUT, TO ME, IT'S NOT MUSIC.

>> I DON'T THINK I WOULD CALL IT MUSIC.

IT'S MORE LIKE, UH, A-- AN AURAL COLLAGE.

MAULL: OK.

YOUR TURN.

WE'RE ASKING YOU, "IS THIS MUSIC?"

LET'S DIG A LITTLE DEEPER.

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT'S MUSIC, IS IT BECAUSE YOU'RE THINKING, "IT DOESN'T HAVE A MELODY," OR, "THERE'S NO BEAT," OR MAYBE YOU FELT, "THERE'S JUST NO PLAN HERE, TOO RANDOM," OR, IF YOU THINK IT IS MUSIC, MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE IT DEFINITELY CREATES SOME KIND OF MOOD, THAT IT WAS INTENTIONALLY COMPOSED BY SOMEBODY AND THEY WANTED YOU TO FEEL SOMETHING.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S ABSTRACT, PERHAPS IT EVOKED VISUALS IN YOUR MIND, AND FOR THAT REASON IT SEEMS LIKE MUSIC.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOLD US IT SOUNDS LIKE NATURE, WATER OR SOMETHING.

HAVE WE MADE YOU STRETCH YOUR LISTENING SKILLS A BIT, YES?

SO NO MATTER HOW YOU CLASSIFY THESE SOUNDS BY MORTON SUBOTNICK, MUSIC OR NOT... ["SILVER APPLES OF THE MOON" PLAYING] LET'S ENLARGE OUR MINDS YET AGAIN WITH THIS NEXT EXERCISE.

WE'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO LISTEN, TO GIVE YOUR UNDIVIDED ATTENTION TO SOME MUSICAL EXCERPTS.

AS WE PLAY EACH ONE, THE DATE, OR APPROXIMATE DATE, OF WHEN IT WAS CREATED WILL COME UP ON THE SCREEN.

THINK OF A BRIEF DESCRIPTION FOR EACH ONE AS YOU LISTEN, WHATEVER POPS INTO YOUR MIND.

YOU'LL NEED THIS INFORMATION TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS WHEN WE'RE FINISHED.

YOU MAY WANT TO JOT YOUR DESCRIPTIONS DOWN OR MAKE A FEW NOTES.

HERE THEY COME.

[BOYS SINGING GREGORIAN CHANT] [VIOLIN PLAYING RAPIDLY] [FLUTES, LUTE, AND DRUMS PLAYING] [WOMAN SINGING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE] [STRINGS AND HARPSICHORD PLAYING WALTZ] [STRING QUARTET PLAYING] [STRINGS PLAYING] [ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYING] [PIZZICATO STRINGS AND PIANO PLAYING] [XYLOPHONE PLAYING] [PLAYING PAUL DESMOND'S "TAKE FIVE"] SO LET'S CHECK WHAT YOU CAME UP WITH IN THE WAY OF BRIEF DESCRIPTIONS.

[BOYS SINGING GREGORIAN CHANT] WE HOPE THAT SOUNDED LIKE CHANT BECAUSE IT WAS GREGORIAN CHANT.

[VIOLIN PLAYING RAPIDLY] [FLUTES, LUTE, AND DRUMS PLAYING] THAT WAS A MEDIEVAL SONG, AND, BY THE WAY, THAT PARTICULAR HIT TUNE MADE IT ALL THE WAY UP TO NUMBER 6 ON THE CHARTS IN YEAR 1100.

HA HA!

JUST KIDDING.

[STRINGS AND HARPSICHORD PLAYING WALTZ] EXTRA POINTS IF YOU GUESSED BACH.

DID YOU NOTICE THAT IT FEATURED ONLY STRINGED INSTRUMENTS?

[STRING QUARTET PLAYING] THAT'S THE SOUND OF A STRING QUARTET, JUST 4 PEOPLE, PLAYING A COMPOSITION BY MOZART.

[ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYING] IN EXCESS OF 80 MUSICIANS PLAYING, THE SOUND OF A FULL SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA PLAYING MUSIC BY RACHMANINOFF.

[STRINGS PLAYING] ALSO JUST STRINGS, BUT A LOT OF THEM, PLAYING SOME VERY EMOTIONALLY INTENSE MUSIC.

[PIZZICATO STRINGS AND PIANO PLAYING] KIND OF A WILD PIECE COMPARED TO THE OTHERS, DEFINITELY PLAYED BY AN ORCHESTRA OF SOME KIND BUT VERY DIFFERENT MUSIC.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THOSE LAST TWO ARE OTHER MOVEMENTS, OR CHAPTERS, FROM THE LARGER BARTOK COMPOSITION THAT CONTAINS THIS FAMILIAR MELODY... [PIANO AND STRINGS PLAYING] AND THE EIGHTH, THE LAST, WAS THE VERY POPULAR JAZZ COMPOSITION "TAKE FIVE," BY PAUL DESMOND, A MEMBER OF THE ORIGINAL DAVE BRUBECK QUARTET, PLAYED FOR US HERE BY THE DAN CRISCI QUARTET.

NOW, WE WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THESE COMPOSITIONS AND WRITE DOWN WHAT INGREDIENTS ARE COMMON TO ALL OF THEM AND WHICH INGREDIENTS ARE NOT COMMON TO ALL OF THEM.

SO WHAT SORT OF THINGS DO WE MEAN?

WELL, IF THEY ALL HAD A MELODY, WE'D PUT MELODY IN THE COMMON COLUMN.

IF ONLY ONE OR TWO HAD SINGING, WE'D PUT SINGING ON THE NOT COMMON SIDE.

LISTEN TO SOME OF THE EXCERPTS AGAIN AS YOU MAKE YOUR LISTS OF COMMON OR NOT COMMON BASIC INGREDIENTS.

[BOYS SINGING GREGORIAN CHANT] [VIOLIN PLAYING RAPIDLY] [FLUTES, LUTE, AND DRUMS PLAYING] [WOMAN SINGING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE] [STRINGS AND HARPSICHORD PLAYING WALTZ] [STRING QUARTET PLAYING] [ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYING] DID YOUR NOT COMMON TO ALL LIST INCLUDE SOME OF THESE-- VOCAL MUSIC OR SINGING, FULL ORCHESTRA, HARMONY--YES, IN THE CASE OF THE GREGORIAN CHANT, THERE WAS ONLY MELODY-- PERCUSSION OR DRUMS, AND, GOING TO THE COMMON TO ALL LIST, HOPEFULLY, RHYTHM--THEY ALL HAD SOME KIND OF RHYTHM--MELODY-- THERE WAS MELODY PRESENT IN EACH OF THEM--AND HOW ABOUT DESIGN, YOU KNOW, A PLAN OR FORM FOR EACH OF THEM?

YES.

EVERY ONE OF THEM WAS VERY INTENTIONALLY CREATED WITH SOME KIND OF PLAN IN MIND.

NOW, IF WE INVESTIGATE A BIT MORE, THERE ARE MANY OTHER THINGS WE COULD LIST, AND IN THE NEXT SHOW OF OUR SERIES, WE'LL CREATE A DEFINITIVE LIST OF THE BASIC INGREDIENTS OF MUSIC, THE ELEMENTS, INCLUDING SOME YOU MAY NOT HAVE THOUGHT OF.

ONE LAST DEMONSTRATION, AND YOU CAN PLAY ALONG, TOO.

WE'VE ASKED TWO FRIENDS TO HELP US, AND WE'VE KEPT THEM SEPARATED FROM EACH OTHER UNTIL WE GET THIS EXPERIMENT UNDER WAY.

VINA, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO COME AND STAND BY ME HERE, AND, IF YOU WOULD, PROMISE TO NOT OPEN YOUR EYES UNTIL I ASK YOU TO SO.

YOU'LL KEEP THEM CLOSED UNTIL THEN.

VINA: ALL RIGHT.

MAULL: READY?

CLOSE THEM.

VINA: CLOSED.

MAULL: THANKS.

NOW, MICHAEL, WOULD YOU COME STAND RIGHT HERE?

OK.

WITHOUT OPENING YOUR EYES, VINA, WOULD YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE THE COLORS OF MICHAEL'S ATTIRE?

VINA: GEORGE, HOW CAN DESCRIBE WHAT HE'S WEARING IF I CAN'T SEE?

MAULL: ARE YOU TELLING ME THIS IS HARD?

VINA: UH, YES.

IT'S VERY HARD.

MAULL: OK. WELL, WOULD YOU OPEN YOUR EYES NOW AND DESCRIBE MICHAEL'S CLOTHING FOR US?

VINA: MICHAEL IS WEARING A NAVY BLAZER, AN INCREDIBLE BROWN HAT, A MULTICOLOR TIE, AND KHAKIS.

MAULL: GREAT.

NOW, I TAKE IT THAT IT WAS EASIER TO DO THIS WHEN YOUR EYES WERE OPEN.

VINA: MUCH EASIER.

MAULL: OH, GOOD.

JUST WHAT HAS THIS TO DO WITH MUSIC LISTENING?

AS WE SAID EARLIER, AT THE DISCOVERY ORCHESTRA, PEOPLE TELL US ALL THE TIME, "I KNOW WHAT KIND OF MUSIC I LIKE, AND I KNOW WHAT I DON'T LIKE," AND WHAT WORRIES US ABOUT THIS IS, WHEN SOMEONE'S MIND IS SO COMPLETELY CLOSED, WE WONDER IF THEY'RE REALLY GETTING ALL THEY MIGHT OUT OF EVEN THE MUSIC THEY THINK THEY LIKE.

WHY?

BECAUSE COMPOSERS LIKE MOZART AND BEETHOVEN AND BARTOK AND DESMOND HAD VERY FLUID MINDS, OPEN MINDS, ESPECIALLY TOWARD THEIR MUSIC.

IT'S WHAT ALLOWED THEM TO PLAY WITH AND ALTER AND CHANGE THEIR IDEAS, JUST LIKE WHEN BARTOK CHANGED THIS... TO THIS...

IF WE, AS LISTENERS, ARE GOING TO GET THE MOST OUT OF THE MUSIC WE THINK WE ALREADY LIKE, WE HAVE TO BRING THE SAME DEGREE OF OPENNESS TO THE LISTENING PROCESS THAT COMPOSERS BRING TO THE COMPOSING PROCESS, AND THINK ABOUT THIS.

ASK ALMOST ANYONE ON THE PLANET IF THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE THEY DON'T LIKE OR THINK THEY SHOULD NEVER ASSOCIATE WITH, AND ODDS ARE, THEY'LL TELL YOU IN A HEARTBEAT.

WITHOUT EVER GETTING TO KNOW THEM, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THEY DON'T LIKE SOME ETHNIC GROUP OR PEOPLE OF A CERTAIN RELIGIOUS PERSUASION OR PEOPLE FROM A CERTAIN GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION OR--OR--OR-- THE LIST GOES ON AND ON, BUT ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, WHAT A LOSS.

THEY'LL NEVER KNOW IF ONE OF THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THEY'VE RULED OUT JUST MIGHT HAVE BECOME A BEST FRIEND OR EVEN THE LOVE OF THEIR LIFE.

SO BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL QUESTION--IS THIS MUSIC?

WE'LL FINISH ANSWERING THIS QUESTION IN OUR NEXT PROGRAM.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TRY TO EMBRACE ALL THE MUSIC IN THE WORLD, BUT IF YOU THINK YOU DON'T LIKE RENAISSANCE MUSIC OR MEDIEVAL MUSIC OR THE MUSIC OF THE EARLY 20th CENTURY OR FAR-OUT, EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC, TRY OPENING YOUR MIND.

GIVE IT A GO.

WHO KNOWS?

YOU MAY FIND THAT SOME PIECE OF MUSIC BECOMES THE LOVE THAT ALMOST PASSED YOU BY.

I'M GEORGE MARRINER MAULL FOR THE DISCOVERY ORCHESTRA REMINDING YOU TO LISTEN BETTER.

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