
Is Utopia Actually Possible?
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Is utopia just too utopian? Explore visions of utopia from Plato to bell hooks.
Is utopia just too utopian? In this episode of Crash Course Political Theory, we’ll explore visions of utopia from Plato to bell hooks. And we’ll investigate whether “the good place” is a good-for-nothing, impractical daydream—or a path to charting political futures.
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Is Utopia Actually Possible?
Episode 11 | 11m 4sVideo has Closed Captions
Is utopia just too utopian? In this episode of Crash Course Political Theory, we’ll explore visions of utopia from Plato to bell hooks. And we’ll investigate whether “the good place” is a good-for-nothing, impractical daydream—or a path to charting political futures.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipBefore EPCOT was a Florida theme park that packs in ten million sweaty tourists a year, Walt Disney imagined it… a little differently.
His “Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow” would be a new city built from the ground up with its twenty-thousand residents in mind.
There would be no cars and no unemployment.
Oh, and the whole thing would be under a climate-controlled dome, so Florida’s heat and humidity couldn’t encroach on anyone’s bliss.
But when Walt Disney died, his utopian dream died with him.
EPCOT became this instead.
[carnival music] And this story got me wondering: how “good” is too good to be true?
Is political utopia just…too utopian?
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I'm Ellie Anderson and this is Crash Course Political Theory.
[THEME MUSIC] So, okay, obviously EPCOT wasn’t the first time someone had dreamed of a better world and fallen short.
But the deeper I dug, the more I realized how radically different our visions of utopia can be.
And boy do they reveal interesting things about who we are.
I started in the beginning, with Plato’s “Republic,” the OG work of western political theory, which is also a utopian blueprint for how good things could be “if only.” When Plato was just a young buck philosophizing about politics, he witnessed thirty leaders turn out to be thirty tyrants.
So he entertained a thought that countless others have thought after him: “Government sucks, and we can do better.” Plato thought this sucky situation was curable by putting philosophers in power.
He made his case: philosophers love wisdom, they hate lies, they’re pleasant, they’re brave, they learn fast, they have a good memory.
He forgot to say we have impeccable fashion sense, but don't worry, I added that in my copy.
Anyway, yes, “rule by lie-haters” sounds better than “rule by tyrants.” But then I read the fine print.
To create this ideal government, Plato says, we’d need to train a generation of philosophers.
And to do that, it’d be best to just start from scratch.
Kick out everybody over the age of ten,.
and get rid of all the artists and poets while we’re at it, because they’re, quote, “imitators [...] thrice removed from the truth.” Then let the philosophers decide what everybody’s jobs should be.
Something tells me there won’t be a YouTuber track.
I wonder what would happen to Mr.
Beast?
We’ll never know, because Plato’s utopia never became reality.
Actually, it turns out the word “utopia” didn’t even exist yet!
Not until 1516, when English statesman Thomas More coined it and wrote a book by that name.
The novel reads like a conversation between More and a world-traveler named Raphael, who also entertained the thought that “government sucks and we can do better.” Especially the government of Tudor England, a quote “conspiracy of the rich” that seized people’s land, squandered resources on gold and armies, and “create[d] thieves, and then punish[ed] them for stealing.” But there is one good government, the book claims, on a distant island called Utopia.
Let’s go to the tape.
[TV static] Picture yourself here: a perfect society with no standing army.
No private property.
No lawyers.
There’s great work/life balance—plenty of time to read, exercise, and go to public lectures.
A place where paradise is real.
And it’s normal to see your betrothed naked before you marry them.
Also, people don’t covet gold and silver; they make… chamber pots with it.
Hm.
Alright.
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[TV static] Sounds pretty groovy.
And a little like the communes I heard about growing up in California.
But then I read the fine print again.
In Utopia, enslavement is… fine.
Yikes.
Sure, there’s golden chamber pots, but no mention of that in the commercial.
There’s also no beer, no tolerance for time-wasters, and quote, “they do not so much as know dice, or any such foolish and mischievous games.” Well, there goes my friends’ Dungeons and Dragons campaign.
Oh, and that word “Utopia”?
It sounds like the Greek “eu-topos,” meaning “a good place,” but it’s derived from the similar-sounding “ou-topos,” meaning “no place.” The good place literally is no place.
Thomas More, you tricky badger.
Feels like you’re trying to teach us something here.
[frightening strings] And maybe that’s why “too utopian” has become such a political burn, synonymous with “impractical.” A government that’s too good is just a fantasy.
I’ve definitely heard this criticism thrown at Marxism, a political theory that envisions a future society after the collapse of capitalism.
Marx is often called out for having concocted some grand utopian vision without offering a road map for how things should unfold after the revolution.
But he was much more interested in critiquing capitalism than he was in writing a guidebook to utopia, so that’s less of a burn and more like a shrug emoji.
As for me, I love a good plan as much as the next gal.
But I’m also a philosopher, so I’m not above insisting that thinking is a worthwhile endeavor all on its own.
There’s a good case to be made for dreaming.
And I’m not alone in that.
My guy, Ernst Bloch, a German Marxist philosopher, argued that imagining a different future is not only worthwhile but necessary to understand our present, messy world.
He expressed this idea as the ontology of the unfinished, ontology being grad-school-speak for “the study of how things are.” And to Bloch?
“How things are” is open-ended.
But it’s hard to examine the not-yet in the right-now.
So utopias give us something concrete to discuss and explore, and help us remember that our present reality isn’t a finished draft.
Whoa, okay.
When I read that, it felt both obvious and deep—we don’t know what the future will be.
We need ways of visualizing it.
And that got me thinking: maybe utopias shouldn’t be written off as an idealistic waste of time.
Like any bold plan, should we poke them, prod them, consider if they’re practical?
Yeah.
Should we read the fine print?
Absolutely.
There could be an artless city of ten-year-olds in there.
Or an island of gold toilets but no board games.
And all this poking and prodding of our utopian visions can also reveal more about what we value—in our cultures, governments, and day-to-day lives.
So I started thinking about utopias differently: as a sandbox for testing political futures.
Which made me wonder, “What do thinkers across the political spectrum think the future should be?” On one end, a utopia might be what scholar Robert Nozick describes in his book “Anarchy, State, and Utopia.” He argues that governments, like M&Ms, are best when mini— a libertarian view that prioritizes individual freedom above all else, and takes any meddling from the state as a threat to those freedoms.
Nozick’s utopia doesn’t interfere with people’s private property or private lives—like, by redistributing income or legislating what’s “moral.” It’s there just enough to protect people’s freedom to live how they want—without presuming what the right way to live might be.
To him, the perfect government is minimalist.
Very clean-girl aesthetic of him.
At the same time, Nozick thought it was naive to imagine we could ever achieve a perfect society that suits everybody.
He writes, "It is helpful to imagine cavemen sitting together to think up what, for all time, will be the best possible society and then setting out to institute it.” I mean, yeah, it sounds silly when you put it like that!
For the record, I’d love to know what Grog, Zurg, and Durg’s ideas were.
On the more progressive side, I found that utopian thought is often a vehicle for critiquing how things are and imagining what could be.
Like, scholar bell hooks doesn’t explicitly talk about “utopia” in her writing.
But she imagines alternatives to current systems that hold everyone back, ways we could make life better for as many people as possible.
In her book “Feminism is for Everybody,” she clarifies that feminism isn’t about crafting a pro-women, anti-men future.
It’s about challenging the problem of sexism, which we’re all socialized to accept in our thoughts and actions from the time we’re born.
She invites us to imagine: what would society be like if we changed our own sexist thoughts and actions?
How could the world transform for the better, if we transformed ourselves first?
Similarly, scholar José Muñoz invites the LGBTQ+ community to embrace utopian thinking as a source of hope and joy.
In his book “Cruising Utopia” he argues that queer literature, art, and drag shows offer a kind of utopian map, a way of dreaming up “other ways of being in the world, and ultimately new worlds.” Queerness challenges how things are, and models something different and better.
So by the end of all this, I’m thinking that it doesn’t make sense to rush into any “good place” that’s dreamed up.
I mean, it could end up being… a bad place.
But it also doesn’t make sense to turn away from good ideas just because they seem “too utopian.” One of the perspectives I click with the most comes from feminist scholar Lucy Sargisson, who challenges the idea of utopia as a perfect blueprint that we follow to a T. She advocates instead for a more slippery, dynamic vision of the future that values the process over the endgame.
So, maybe the point of utopias isn’t perfection.
Maybe the real utopias are the friends we make — I mean, the paradigms we shift — along the way.
If we’re not happy with what is…there’s power in imagining what could be.
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