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Here's what we're looking at.
>> We have heard that they're targeting as many as 2000 people initially.
>> Illinois officials are bracing for potential immigration raids.
Our spotlight politics team has the latest.
Becoming and remaining a city has been a bit of mayoral tug of war.
>> President Trump's administration is threatening to punish sanctuary cities.
We explore Chicago's history has won and what it means.
>> We've already been through what we've come to.
So the thing is we've seen devastating times before.
>> And he never shies away from telling us what he really thinks.
Author Michael Eric Dyson on Trump, affirmative action and the future of American cities.
>> First off tonight, Illinois is now among a growing number of states suing to block President Donald Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship.
The order says children born to noncitizens are not quote, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and would not be covered by the 14th Amendment.
Attorney General Kwame Raoul called Trump's efforts diametrically opposed to American values and said in a statement, quote, We need to discuss bipartisan commonsense immigration reforms but denying birthright citizenship, which dates back centuries and has been upheld twice by the U.S. Supreme Court is not the solution.
Illinois is joined by Washington, Arizona and Oregon.
Additional lawsuits have been filed by the ACLU and 18 other states.
Chicagoans could finally get some relief from the subzero temperatures soon.
But some light snow is on the way it is winter in Chicago.
Looking ahead, Wednesday's forecast shows temperatures in the low to mid 20's and a chance for about an inch of snow beginning in the afternoon.
A cold weather advisory is still in effect in Cook County into Wednesday as wind chills fall to negative 20 degrees overnight.
The National Weather Service is reminding everyone to cover all exposed skin when going out or stay indoors.
If possible.
Visit our website for a map of warming centers in Chicago.
Illinois is set to begin phasing out of sub minimum wage for disabled workers.
Governor JB Pritzker was at access living of Metro Chicago today to sign the dignity in pay act.
The legislation will phase out the current voucher program employers can use to pay workers with disabilities by 2029 advocates say the program allows employers to pay disabled workers less than the minimum wage in the new law ensures they receive fair wages.
The new law also allocates funds for expanding work environments that support people with disabilities.
>> No longer will individuals who have been potential the subject to a one size fit all assumptions in unfair treatments just because the disability.
>> Bears fans, this one's for you because the Chicago Bears are making it official.
The team announces they've tapped Ben Johnson as their next head coach Johnson spent the last 6 seasons with the Detroit Lions most recently as defensive coordinator.
The Lions have been offensive juggernaut as of late despite coming up short in Saturday's playoff matchup against the Washington commanders.
>> The Lions averaged more yards and points per game than any other team in the league this season.
The Bears could benefit that kind of help after finishing 28 in points per game this season, Johnson is set to address the media Wednesday at Halas Hall.
The votes have been tallied and for the second year in a row, a legendary figure from WGN TV has topped the list of winners in Chicago's snowplow naming contest Bozo the clown, a tribute to the classic children's TV clown took the top spot according to streets and sanitation.
Thousands of people voted in the contest, which is now in its 3rd year.
If you more winners include LaLa plow Luiza snow or Walker and scoop.
There it is.
Check out our website for a complete list.
Up next, Chicago's roots as a sanctuary city.
What exactly that means right after this.
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>> Illinois officials in Chicago's immigrant communities are bracing for potential raids.
This after former President Donald Trump was sworn into a second term yesterday and double down on his promise of mass deportations for undocumented immigrants.
Trump is also threatening to end federal grants to sanctuary cities like Chicago.
That limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities in the latest from our W T Tw News explains series Joanna Hernandez explores Chicago's roots as a sanctuary city and what it means.
>> for decades, Chicago has held the designation of a state city.
But what does it mean and how has Chicago status indoors, the term sanctuary city reverse any jurisdiction that discourages limits or denies cooperation with federal immigration authorities.
There are currently hundreds of sanctuary communities in America and 13 same jury states.
Where did they come from while Berkeley, California claimed the title of first same jury city in 1971.
The sanctuary city movement really began popping up across the country in the Mid 1980's as President Reagan focused on identifying and deporting undocumented immigrants, churches opened their doors to provide shelter in resources for Central Americans fleeing civil war and violence in Chicago becoming and remaining a stranger.
Every city has been a bit of mayoral tug of Mayor Harold Washington first declared Chicago a stranger every city in 1985.
Via executive order.
>> The order prohibited police and city employees from questioning residents about their immigration status and terminated cooperation with federal immigration authorities.
Some argued the policy shielded convicted criminals from deportation.
And in the 1990's, Mayor Richard Daley interpreted the policy to allow city officials to provide immigration information to the Fed's the subjects were involved in serious crimes, Chicago, same tree policies when from executive order to a strong law with the 2006 welcoming city ordinance in 2012, Mayor Rahm Emanuel in the city council weaken the law, allowing police to work with federal officials in limited cases reflection 2016, President Donald Trump threatened century cities with the loss of federal dollars.
Nevertheless, Chicago City Council voted to reaffirm ordinance under Mayor Lori Lightfoot and expanded welcoming ordinance close the loopholes open by Daley and Emanuel banning all police cooperation with federal immigration authorities.
Chicago enters its 40th year as the same tree City Mayor Brandon Johnson has reaffirmed Chicago's commitment.
And today thousands of refugees and undocumented immigrants have found a safe haven in Chicago.
A point of pride for those who believe offering sanctuary is a matter of human rights.
The point of consternation for those see it as a hurdle for law enforcement.
>> And you can find the rest of our Emmy winning W T Tw News explains series on our website.
We're back with more right after this.
Author and professor Michael Eric Dyson is known for his rapid-fire commentary threading hip-hop lyrics with Bible verses in his signature alliteration to make his point about politics, pop culture and certainly racial justice in America.
The Vanderbilt professor was back in Chicago recently for a couple of Martin Luther King Junior Day observances, including the city's interfaith breakfast last week we sat down with him to get thoughts on the latest starting with what he thinks the next 4 years will be like now that President Donald Trump has just begun his second term.
>> Well, first of all, he's inheriting a tremendously robust economy.
Much like the former President Obama said, yeah, you did a great cause.
I gave you a great the economy.
He's inheriting yet another economy.
Now during the election, you know, as politicians on both sides to be fair, want to do.
It's doom and gloom for what the existing administration has done.
We promised something different, but he's inheriting a rather robust economy.
And if you can do anything to continue that we would obviously be supportive at the same time, he's already developed a list that of people that he wants to go after Liz Cheney, John Bolton, and these are not raving left-wingers.
Excuse me.
These are not radical.
Libertarians or even liberals.
So the tragedy of the next 4 years will be that if we're not able to have government as usual where the institutions prevail over any particular individual administration, although they're always impacted by them.
And we have to both be conscious of the fact that he is the President United States of America.
But we must also oppose those things that we think are deeply and profoundly problematic.
And unfortunately, this probably going to be a lot to oppose.
>> You talk some of the country's most elite universities.
And since Trump's first administration, we know the Supreme Court has struck down the use of race in college admissions.
Some universities have already started notice fewer black students enrolling, Hispanics as well.
Have you noticed a difference at Vanderbilt?
>> Yeah, well, not immediately because Vanderbilt practices a variety of commitment to diversity.
That is not vulnerable.
So what the law says you can you can evade the law.
My point is, do you want the commercial with the product?
You don't have to pronounce or an ounce.
What it is that you're attempting to do because it's important to have education that is diverse number of axes, race, class, gender, orientation, geography region, religion.
So those things make for vibrant classroom and you don't have to offend any law of affirmative action to achieve those goals.
You have to be conscious.
You have to be intentional and you have to understand what makes for a vibrant classroom even before dei or affirmative action.
You know, when there were no black people involved and no women, how did they decide who got into Harvard, Princeton, Yale, right?
You're a violent player from Oklahoma and we don't have people coming from there.
We need you.
So there was already a diversity of application even before gender race came into play.
And I suspect we'll have to lean upon those issues.
Having said that, there's no denying looking at Harvard thing in there.
Law school class an extreme diminishment of of the pool of diverse people.
They are.
That's to the detriment of America, right?
If America Fund ultimately said, hey, we don't want black people, you know, in these arenas, then we'd have no Michael Jordan in basketball because without affirmative action, Michael Jordan would have never played in the NBA without the conscious attempt to bring in people who have been historically denied.
We would have never enjoyed his skills or so.
So my point is that it is extremely important for us to continue to practice a variety of diversity in education, even be on the official or legal restrictions of affirmative action.
>> And at the same time, companies are slashing their dei initiatives.
Many had been quietly scaling long before this most recent election because there's some reflections that people think that to the big companies are doing it to cozy up to President Trump.
What do you think of that?
Were reduced company Sussex, sincere in the first place?
>> Probably not or they were, but they feel intimidated and they run, you know, hide at the first prospect of resistance.
I think black people in others have to practice dei, too, did not economic investment, right?
Get involved in a boycott yourselves.
I mean, if Walmart thinks that it's OK to seize your program, it's all right for us to seize our economic investment or again, we can ask Walmart you can get rid of the official dei program, but do the things that you know are consciously encouraging your customers, a number of whom are people of color to be involved.
So again, there are ways around the legal restrictions that have been imposed and affirmative action, you know, rulings for education have been taken so rapidly and readily by these companies.
Those were not the rulings for them, but they figure well, let's let's go along and do the same thing.
Well, lets do the same thing when a right just causes championed and you want to see the kind of spreading of a good idea, which is diversity, which is having a workforce that reflects those who constitute our communities or those who are consumers.
There's always a way to get to the issue of diversity in a creative fashion.
If you have the desire or the intent and for those corporations that don't do it, we've got to make them pay.
>> What do you think of the state of American cities right now?
And do you think some of those cities and you know who are mostly governed by Democrats, will they suffer under a Trump There's no question.
He's a vitriolic, vicious man.
He small-minded and petty.
>> He's in group.
Previously.
Chi is a foolish fashion season them with a dictator.
But that's on a good day.
And it's nice when you really think, right?
I mean, this is what he's done.
He's performed these things.
However, I would say to those mayors, a number of whom happen to be African-American.
If you have an opportunity to work with him and forge a connection in a way that's beneficial to your city.
Go ahead.
I'm a social critic.
My job is to bring the force of critique to bear.
But here we are in Chicago.
Think about Brandon Johnson, an extraordinary man, intelligent, well versed, a union man, a man who's an educator.
Look, nobody is immune to criticism.
So everybody in that office has to be prepared.
But the piling on when I think about Brandon Scott in Baltimore who is seen as the dei mayor or Karen Bass because a bridge collapsed because of a ship being out of place.
Right?
Or Karen Bass with the wildfires there in Los Angeles and being pummeled.
Well, Brandon Johnson here in Chicago, despite the economic reversals of fortune for those who are less fortunate and vulnerable into something more powerful.
So we've got to say on the one hand, let's pay attention to the wind, which there's a relationship between the federal government and the local government and what goodies you can drive for your people.
And at the same time, hold a proudly the banner of commitment to the vulnerable and cities suffer to a degree.
But they got to fight back.
I mean, the what Trump has shown is that if you are willing to raise your voice and speak up and say what you believe is true.
There are at least enough people who will rally around you to be able to defend your position and forge a kind of coalition that might have significant political impact in the real world.
>> All right.
That's where have to leave EU.
Professor Michael Eric Dyson can see you.
Thanks for having >> Closing arguments begin tomorrow in the corruption trial of former Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan.
Meanwhile, President Donald Trump's January 6th pardons will help more than 50 Illinois defendants and the mayor and Governor Breeze for the president's threats of mass deportations beginning in Chicago.
You're with all that and more is our spotlight politics team Amanda Vicki, Heather, Sharon and Nick Blumberg him be Okay.
So let's start with the president's warnings of an imminent immigration crackdown.
>> Invoking the alien enemies act of 17.
98.
I will direct our government to use the full and immense power of federal and state law enforcement to eliminate the presence of rules are in gangs and criminals that works bring in devastating crime to U.S. soil, including our cities and inner cities.
>> So Heather, there were rumors of a large scrapes scale immigration raid a that supposed to allegedly happened in Chicago this morning.
Have we seen anything so far?
No, there were no widespread raids anywhere in the country.
Best we can tell.
And this is something that President Trump wants people to see.
He has made this sort of a big part of his, you know, approach to this early days of his >> administration.
And it's not clear why they didn't happen today.
As first reported by the Wall Street Journal, there was further reporting by The Washington Post that said that maybe this was leaked and that made I sort of rethink its plans.
But for undocumented immigrants who number in the thousands of Chicago that the threat has not passed.
And I think this was just sort of an additional 24 hour period perhaps to give people a little bit more chance to prepare, although there was additional news today from the president on immigration.
He has revoked the policy that prohibited ice from detaining or arresting immigrants at said, quote, quote, unquote, sense of locations, which includes churches and schools.
Now we in Chicago are very familiar with sort of the use of churches, a sanctuary from people sort declining to comply with deportation efforts.
That will not be sort of something that ICE recognizes going forward according to the sword.
And meanwhile, of course, about entire communities of immigrants and their families who are in a state of fear right now.
Heather, how did Mayor Johnson respond to these mass deportation threats?
What we heard from him briefly on Martin Luther King Day saying that the city would continue to live its values and that the city was being tested.
>> However, he did not have a public schedule today, which was it's very different from the governor who spent a little bit of time yesterday in Little village, talking to businesses who have seen their sort customers sort of decline precipitously as people sort of stay away from public areas.
We didn't hear from him today.
And in fact, his press office, as far as I can tell, didn't send out his schedule as they normally do.
And the days interesting.
All right.
Feels like that's something to talk about next week.
of today, Governor Pritzker, do he did.
As you mentioned, you talked about the president's comments and how they've impacted the immigrant community.
>> We should have comprehensive immigration reform in this country and not simply have a president who is scaring people.
Forcing them out of their jobs because they're afraid to go to work.
You go 26 Godo to little village, go to pills.
I was there yesterday.
I was in businesses yesterday that relatively empty because people are afraid to show up.
>> Amanda, what else to the governor had to say about this looming immigration crackdown?
He said that Illinois has received no communication from the Trump administration about what may or may not calm.
And he says he believes that's intentional.
Part of this theme of sowing chaos and fear.
He also made a point is he he's sort of done more and more often lately of saying that he believes violent criminals who are here and are undocumented should not be protected by Illinois by ICE.
He says that that is something that is already illegal.
And he believes that they doesn't want in Illinois.
He doesn't want him in the country.
I think that the governor is making a point of this.
Each time he speaks on immigration truly on is there political reasons or really to connect with people who are concerned about this threat that you hear voiced by the president.
Now, the United States continuously that there are criminals amongst our midst who are are scary and could hurt them.
So he makes a point really to say that in his remarks while noting that the vast majority of undocumented immigrants are not criminals do not have a criminal record and are sort of not engaged in any illicit activity.
And is Pritzker saying anything about whether the state can protect any undocumented immigrants from deportation?
He continues to say that Illinois will stand up for its values and keep the keep people safe.
Illinois has the trust act that provides really sanctuary status and says that and law enforcement cannot be working with ICE on deportation orders.
So he could be on that that we don't have a lot of details.
But but but Illinois is joined with 3 other states to file suit now against the Trump administration seeking to block it from implementing executive order that would end the right place citizenship.
So that's certainly a big action on the part of the state.
So another one of President Trump's many executive orders.
orders signed yesterday, though, Nick, he pardoned those who are involved in the January 6th attack of ways.
As we've mentioned, how many Illinoisans are impacted here?
That's right.
This is a sweeping order.
More than 1500 people from all 50 states who have been caught up in this probe of the January 6th riot.
More than 50 Illinois were a part of this mass pardoning.
>> Of which all but a handful of them had already been convicted for, you know, for the crimes that some of them had already served, you know, prison time or probation.
Some of them were still behind bars.
But yet prosecutors began formal dismissal proceedings today to to do away with with the outstanding cases in these include people from far right extremist groups like the Oath Keepers, like the Proud Boys.
In fact, Trump commuted sentences from leaders of those 2 groups.
There was, you know, high-profile case of a former Chicago police officer who was sentenced to probation after January 6, them lost his job and his attorney has even given quotes to to the sometimes to the Tribune.
Us are reporting today saying that he was scapegoated.
He's trying perhaps try to get his job back on the force, although that is probably a very unlikely outcome during that something that will be keeping an eye for just to see whether or not that actually happens.
>> Imagine trial.
Closing arguments expected to start tomorrow.
This the last chance, of course, for attorneys to make their pitch to the jury.
Amanda, Nick, that have come to you first.
Amanda, what are some of your your thoughts on that?
The main point that they're going to try and get home?
Well, as we've been talking about, you had magic and take the stand and the this was a jury that selected because they didn't know a lot about Illinois politics.
So well, anybody who has been following our program certainly knows about his.
You don't really vaunted status in Illinois.
these are people who might not know that he got on the stand and presented himself as somebody who was not confrontational and >> therefore, that's why he didn't maybe speak harshly when former Alderman Danny Solis brought up a quid pro quo.
So I think you're going to hear that sort defense.
He is.
>> A grandpa.
He worked tremendously hard as he had witnesses there.
And I think what I'm really going to be watching for is how hard his team and McClain's team go against one another.
This is something that his co-defendant and former good friend Mike McClain, a lobbyist had both we want to separate their it court case because they were afraid that it would be pointing fingers at the other.
How much that's going to happen.
quick.
Yeah.
There was a motion, you know, saying these they may at the Madigan Act.
A second prosecutors.
I think prosecutors in particular are going to have to really do their best to simplify what an incredibly complex case into Amanda's point.
>> Make clear just how significant of a figure Mike Madigan was.
They have had, you know, countless hours of testimony and secret recordings, they're going to have to, as they've been trying to do all along, boil this down as simple as terms as possible.
Although, you know, we expect prosecutor is closing to go Wednesday and Thursday.
There will be no defense.
There will be a rebuttal.
There will be long jury instructions.
So this is not over yet.
I think I think jury I think it's pose to go to the jury next week.
That's the plan.
Obviously that can shift what it will say.
It's been a big trial.
So what?
>> What's a few more days, everybody.
All right.
That spotlight, whether she wrote Amanda venting to Klingberg, thanks.
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