Donnybrook
January 25, 2024
Season 2024 Episode 4 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Bill McClellan, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Bill McClellan, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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STARTING WITH WENDY WIESE FROM THE BIG 550 KTRS.
AND BILL MCCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.
AND AND FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN WE WELCOME ALVIN REID, SPORTS COLUMNIST AND NEWS EDITOR, AND I WANT TO THROW IN A QUICK PLUG FOR OUR BENEFACTOR, OR OUR SPONSOR, THE BRENNAN'S LOST THE FURNACE LAST WEEKEND, AND IT WAS COLD BUT DESIGN AIR, PROUD SPONSOR OF "DONNYBROOK" CAME TO THE RESCUE, YES.
SO RAY, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A COLUMN THAT YOU WROTE NOT ONLY IN SUBSTACK BUT ALSO APPEARING IN THE ST. LOUIS BUSINESS JOURNAL.
CAME OUT THIS WEEK BY GOOD JOBS FIRST AND ITS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GREG LEROY.
THEY T BREAKS THAT HAD BEEN ISSUED IN OUR REGION THE PAST SI AND FOUND THAT THE SCHOOLS HAVE LOST $260 MILLION TO TAX BREAKS AND THE SITUATION IS WORSE OR ITS WORSE IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WHERE PER ST 1,600-DOLLAR PER YEAR LOSS IN SCHOOL DOLLARS.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE ABOU WHAT THEY ARE IN CHICAGO AND TWICE WHAT THEY ARE IN KANSAS CITY.
WHAT DO YOU WRITE.
>> IT'S MORE IMPOR GREG LEROY MAKES OF IT, WHICH HE PUT IT, WE ARE OFF THE CHARTS COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES.
I HEARD FROM REAL THAT QUIBBLE WITH THE METHODOLOGIES, AND THEY CAME A FROM A NOT-FOR-PROFIT CALL THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING STANDING BOARDS.
WHAT THEY SHOWED, WHAT GOOD JOBS FIRST WAS ABLE TO SHOW, WAS THAT POOR PEOPLE, BLACK PEOPLE AND DISABLED KIDS ARE THE ONES WHO DISPROPORTIONATELY PAY, AS GREG POINTS OUT, FOR EVERY DOLLAR A KID IN THE CITY PAYS OR CONTRIBUTES IN THE FORM OF THEIR EDUCATION DOLLARS TO CORPORATE WELFARE THAT IT'S 91 TIMES WHAT ROCKWOOD DOES.
IT'S A PRETTY.
>> ISN'T THAT THE FAULT OF THE LEADERS IN THE CITY WHO ARE OFTEN MINORITIES THEMSELVE ARE DEVELOPERS?
SHOULD ONLY BE IN PLACES LIKE THE CITY, SMALL TOWNS, FACTORIES, NORTH COUNTIES, SOUTH COUNTY, WHATEVER, WHERE THEY ARE STRUGGLING.
TEST, BUT FOR THIS INCENTIVE, THE PERSON W WOULDN'T COME HERE.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN THE CENTRAL WEST END.
THEY SHOULD NOT CENTRAL WEST CORRIDOR WHER ARE.
THEY S LIKE NORTH CITY AND SHOULD NOT ALL EXIST IN PLACES LIKE CLAYTON AND CHESTERFIELD.
>> I THINK IF YOU LIVE IN IT, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GIVING ON ANY PROJECT.
THIS IS THE LIMIT.
THE LIMIT, LET'S SAY, THE LIMIT IS FOR A NORTH COUNTY PROJECT AND THAT HELPS THE KIDS, LIKE I SAY, IN THE CITY AREA SOME.
COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THIS UNLESS IT'S IN NORTH ST. LOUI CONTROL OF IT.
BUT THIS I I KNOW IT STANDS OUT.
TAKE ROCKWOOD, WESTERN, WHATEVER, AND SAY THEY ARE ONLY GIVING UP SO MUCH.
THERE ARE NO $800 MILLION DEVELOPMENTS GOING UP IN KIRKWOOD OR WEBSTER BECAUSE IT'S TOO SMALL, AND ALSO NOT A LOT OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
I DON'T THINK THAT COMPARISON BUT THE ONE TO CHICAGO IS A FAIR >> THE THING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, TAKE DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS, WHICH DESPERATELY NEEDS SOME HELP, AND INVESTORS AND DEVELOPERS AREN'T GOING TO GO IN THERE, RAY, WITHOUT SOME KIND OF HELP.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE.
>> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY THAT SUFFERS, AND IT'S THE CITY THAT NEEDS THIS HELP.
>> BUT THEY ARE DOING IT IN PLACES THAT THE MA AND THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE SUBSIDIZED.
JACOB BARKER FROM THE DISPATCH FOUR YEARS AGO EXPLAINED ALL OF HAPPENING IN ST. LOUIS.
UNLIKE OTHER CITIES, INCLUDING THOSE IN OUR ARE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION GETS A PERCENTAGE OR A 1.5% TAK SUBSIDIES.
THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN ELSEWHERE.
AND ACTUALLY THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE GETS A PERCENTAGE OF EVERY SUBSIDY.
AS A R GRANTING SUBSIDIES BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY MAKE MONEY, BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T FUND THE SLDC.
>> LET'S BE CLEAR.
TH POCKET.
>> CRAZIEST AS SECRETARY IS WHEN THE CITY SUBSI DIED THE GOVERNMENT TO PUT THE NGA IN NORTH ST. LOUIS.
THE SAM.
ONE, YOU WANT TO K TWO, IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
I'M NOT SAYING A ARE GOOD, BUT THAT'S O COULD LIVE WITH BECAUSE OF THE MAGNITUDE.
SAYING TO A DEVELOPER YOU CAN PAY LESS TO THE SCHOOLS.
THE SCHOOLS SHOULD MAKE DECISION.
HEY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE MONEY FOR POLICE OR ONE THING.
>> THE ARGUMENT IS, AS RAY SAID BUT FOR THE INCENTIVE, WHAT WOULD THERE BE?
IF YOU HAVE A VACANT LOT, SCHOOLS AREN'T GOING TO GET ANYTHING FROM THAT EITHER, CHARLIE.
IT'S STILL OBVIOUSLY ECHOING AROUND THE CITY, BUT BOB CLARK IS TO ME THE EXCEPTION, BECAUSE HE SHOULD, AS YOU POINT OUT, AND IN NORTH ST. LOUIS, THEN HE SHOULD GET WHATEVER HE DESIRES, IN MY OPINION.
>> HERE IS THE DEAL.
>> THE CITY, BY THE WAY, HAD TO BE LEAD.
>> THE DEVELOPER.
>> MORE MONEY THAN IMAGINE OR I CAN IMAGINE.
>> LET'S MOVE ON.
WENDY, THIS WEEK THE ST. LOU COUNTY COUNCIL HAD A MEETING AND IT WAS INTERRUPTED BY PRO PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS.
AND IN T CHAIR JUST ENDED THE MEETING.
I WAS SURPRISED THEY DIDN'T CLEAR THE HALL AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROTEST THAT W LOUIS COUN >> I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS PART OF BEING AN AMERICAN.
YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE.
YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO PROTEST, BUT THIS IS A BODY THAT FOCUSES MORE ON NORTHWEST PLAZA THAN IT DOES THE WEST BANK.
I WISH THAT THE PROTESTERS --ER -- YOU ARE JUST BEING OBSTRUCTIONISTS FOR OBSTRUCTIONIST SAKE.
GO TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MO IS.
GO TO WASHINGTON.
BUT THE COUNTY COUNCIL, YOU ARE DELAYING THE BUSINESS.
AND WHAT ROCKHILL DISTRICT AND PROTESTING THERE?
PA LESTINIAN PROTESTERS TOOK OVER THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN'S MEETING.
THEY WERE WELCOMED THERE, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANY TENSION.
QUESTION, BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE, WOULD IF IT WAS PRO ISRAEL?
THE ANSWER IS YES.
IT'S ONE THING -- OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO ORGANIZE, PROTEST, B ARE TALKING OF IT'S NOT JUST ST. LOUIS.
THEY ARE DOING IT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
MEETING -- IF ST. LOUIS WAS SENDING MONEY TO THI FAIN.
>> I THINK YOU FOR WAS LIKE TO BE YOUNG.
THESE KIDS, THEY ARE JUST PROTESTING.
THEY COULD ARGUE, AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD, WELL, IT'S AMERICAN MONEY THAT'S FUNDING THE WAR GAZA.
I'M PRO ISRAEL ON THIS.
BUT IF THESE KIDS WANT TO PROTEST -- I THOUGHT IT WAS ILLUMINATING THE COUNCIL STOPPED THE MEETING.
TH DO.
COUNTY WORK, I'M SURE THEY WOULD HAVE CLEARED THE MEETING OR SOMEBODY ARRESTED BUT INSTEAD THEY SAID OKAY, IF YOU ARE GOING TO HOLLER, WE WILL OURSELVES.
BONKERS.
>> A L THAT IS, THEY WERE PROTESTING THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE SUBSIDY OF BOEING, WHICH MANUFACTURES WEAPONS.
LOOK.
SENSITIVE SUBJECT OBVIOUSLY.
BUT GOING BACK TO WHEN THE C AND ALL THAT, AND THE CRAZINESS THAT WAS GOING ON, I THINK THAT'S WHAT SET THE ST THIS, BUT THEY DIDN'T TAKE CONTROL THEN.
OKAY, I HAVE GOT A POINT T MAKE.
I KN THAT'S ONE THING.
TWO, ALL RIGHT.
WE ARE GOI AND SCREAM, AND WE ARE LET YOU HOLIER AND LET YOU SCREAM FOR 15 MINUTES.
ONCE WE GO PAST TH ALL BETS ARE OFF.
YOU HAVE TO PLAY B I CAN LIVE WITH THAT.
>> DISRUPTING IN JEFFERSON CITY, AND THERE'S NOW A FLEE DOM FR ROCKING THE BOAT IN THE CITY, ALVIN REID.
SENATORS EAGLE, KEEL, HOSKINS AND BRATTIN, AND BECAUSE THEY WERE SO DISRUPTIVE, KIND OF PREVENTED THE SENATE FROM DOING ITS BUSINESS LAST WEEK, AND HEAD OF THE SENATE DECIDED TO STRIP THEM OF THEIR OFFICES, TOOK AWAY SOME OF BUDGET AND CHAIRMANSHIPS THAT THEY HELD.
>> AND PARKING.
SAVE THE B I THINK THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE DISRUPTERS THESE DAYS, WHETHER IT'S IN SILICON VALLEY, WASHINGTON, D.C., I THINK THEI >> NO BUSINESS IS GETTIN WE CAN'T GET A GAMBLING PASSED.
CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT, BECAUSE THEY ARE OFF INTO THIS, YOU KNOW, DREAM WORLD THAT THEY ARE IN.
I WRAPPING THEMSELVES IN FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, THEY WRAPPED THEMSELVES YOU ARE TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM ME, AND TO LAY SOME PEOPLE OFF.
>> YOU DON'T NEED TO LAY PEOPLE OFF BUT USE SOME OF THE BUDGET MONEY TO PAY THEM.
>> THIS IS GOING TO COST ME MONEY.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
THE SHENANIGANS HAS TO STOP.
THEY HAVE GONNA BRIDGE TOO FAR, AND I THINK MOST REPUBLICANS SIDE WITH THEM HAVING TH CHAIRMANSHIPS TAKEN AWAY.
>> GOOD FO LEADERSHIP TO DO THE RIGHT THING, NO QUES BUT TWO THINGS CAN ONCE.
POLITICALLY IT'S GOLD FOR GUYS LIKE EIGEL AND THESE OTHER BOTTOM FEEDERS.
>> WHAT DID HE CALL THEM?
SWAMP CREATURES?
>> WHATEVER.
>> HERE IS BILL EIGEL WAS OUTRAGED THAT THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR MIKE PARSON WOULD HAVE A PLEASANT LUNCH WITH THE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR OF KANSAS LAURA KELLY.
THAT'S HIS IDEA OF AN ISSUE.
THESE GUYS ARE SO REALLY SUCH A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY TO GUYS LIKE EIGEL AND HE WILL USE THIS, JUST LIKE ME SAYING SOMETHING BAD ABOUT IT, ANYTHING THAT CAN POSITION HIM AS AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT IS GOLD FOR HIM.
>> IT PROBABLY IS.
>> HE ISN' GRIEVANCE.
SENATOR EIGEL ON NEXT UP, AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ENDING PROPERTY TAX.
WHAT WILL WE REPLACE THAT WITH?
HE SAID WASTE AND FRAUD.
>> BUT THIS IS MOSTLY COUNTY GOVERNMENT.
THE COUNTIES OUTSIDE OF ST. LOUIS COUNTY.
IS IT FRAUD AN >> FRAUD AND WASTE.
HE'S NOT A SERIOUS MAN, AND DON'T THINK HE HAS A CHANCE.
>> WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THIS MIGHT BE A MOMENTARY WINDFALL FOR HIM, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GO WELL.
>> IT COUL IN A THREE-WAY RACE.
>> FROM CORY BUSH, TO JOSH HAWLEY TO DONALD TRUMP.
I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A STUDY THAT SHOWED THE MOST EXPENSIVE SECOND MARKET TICKET IN MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER IS IN ST. LOUIS.
MEDIAN PRICE FOR BUYING A TICKET SECONDHAND IS 30 $303.
TO ME THAT SHOWS THE POPULARITY AND EXCITEMENT SURROUNDING TEAM.
WH >> I THINK SO, TOO, AND I HAVE NOT BEEN TO A SOCCER GAME AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO BUY IT ON THE SECOND MARKET.
BUT I DON'T FIND ANY FAULT WITH ANYBODY ON THIS.
IF THEY HAVE PRO THAT EVERYBODY IS EX AND NOT SO THAT PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT SEASON TICKETS CAN SELL THEM, GOOD FOR THEM.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM AT ALL.
>> I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT PRIC BEING WHAT THEY MAY, SECONDHAND MARKET OR WHATEVER.
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ESTABLISHED ENOUGH THAT IT'S NOT LIKE WHEN ALLEN PAID A EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO SEE THE DALLAS COWBOYS PLAY AT ARROWHEAD STADIUM AGAINST THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS.
I THINK WE ARE PRICING O PEOPLE THAT SOCCER GAME IN ST. LOU I WILL BE WARY OF THAT.
I KNOW IT'S YEAR 1 SHINY NEW TOY.
BUT I HAVE CONCERN A >> THIS IS AMERICA.
WE PRI AND YOU CAN CHARGE ENOUGH.
>> BUT BASEBALL, YOU CAN STILL BUY A 25-DOLLAR TICKET.
>> THIS IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND CAPITALISM EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO SUBSIDIZING TEAMS, AND THAT GOES FOR THE CARDINALS, THE BLUES, AND THEY WERE PROBABLY THE WORST.
THE CA VILLAGE YOU WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT SUBSIDY.
AND SUBSIDIZED AND AN ARTICLE IN THE BUSINESS JOURNAL PICKING U ON A NATIONAL SPORTS PUBLICATION.
THEY GOT IT LESS THAN FIVE YEARS LATER, AND THEY HAVE GONE FROM 200 MILLION IN VALUE TO 625.
THE FRANCHISE IS ALREADY MORE THAN TRIPLE THE VALUE, AND I'M FINE WITH THAT.
IT'S FREE MARKET WHY ARE WE SUBSIDIZING THEM?
IT GOES FOR ALL THE SPORTS TEAM.
>> AND THE ICONIC BUSCH STADIUM.
>> THAT'S DIFFERENT.
>> I'M NOT I SUBSIDIZING SPORTS TEAMS.
BUT IT'S BEEN A VE FOR SOCCER.
IT HAS B WESTERN EDGE OF DOWNTOWN.
>> PUTS US ON THE MAP WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WERE TRYING OR WANT TO SEE US ON THE MAP, AND THOSE ARE THE YOUNG PEOPLE.
>> O BASEBALL SEASON WITH A MAN NAMED STAN KROENKE EXERCISING RIGHT TO BUY THE RAMS, IF WE HAD SUBSIDIZED KEEPING THE TEAM HERE, THEY WOULD PROBABLY STILL BE HERE.
EVERYB THEY WANT TO GET BEHIND.
I'M LIKE YOU.
>> BUILD THE STADIUM FOR BILL.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT THE ASKING PRICE IS?
70 MILLION.
COUCHES THESE DAYS.
>> DO YOU REMEMBER ONCE BREWERY WANTED TO BUILD A HOCKEY ARENA AND MAYOR VINCE CHAMBERLAIN SAYS NO.
AND BILL MCCLELLAN I WANT TO ASK YOU -- IT WAS A DIFFERENT ERA, IT'S TRUE.
ST. LOUIS COUNTY COUNTY EXECUTIVE HINTED HE'S GOING TO HAVE A PROPERTY TAX O THE NOVEMBER 2024 BALLOT TO RAISE MONEY FOR A NEW COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING WHICH COULD COST AS $612 MILLION.
AL COULD RENOVATE THE EXISTING ONE AT 200 MILLION.
>> HE'S WELCOME TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT, AND CITIZENS WILL VOTE OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST IT.
I READ THE STORIES.
IT'S A FIRE PROBLEM, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT SPRINKLERS.
I THINK SAM PAGE SHOULD IDENTIFY A BUNCH OF FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, TAKE ONE TO EACH OFFICE AND SAY SPRAY THIS AND GET THE HECK OUT.
I THINK IT'S NOT A SERIOUS IDEA.
>> A SERIOUS IDEA?
THIS IS WHY PE THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HIRE REID MCCLELLAN.
THAT'S W BUCKS.
I'M NOT A FAN OF PAGE, THINK HE'S ENCOURAGED, AND IF THEY WANT TO AT LEAST -- I'M FOR RENOVATION OF EVERYTHING FIRST.
IF THEY WANT TO AT LEAST HAVE THE GUTS TO GO TO THE VOTERS O SOMETHING LIKE THIS RATHER THAN CIRCUMVENT THE PROCESS BY GIVING INCENTIVES TO DEVELOPERS SO THEY AVOID HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE SCHOOL'S MONEY, I MIND.
HE HAS $160 MILLION.
>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
>> I D CONVINCED THE VOTERS WILL VOTE IT DOWN.
EVER >> ONLY BECAUSE THE LUMP SUM OF MONEY IS THERE, AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO USE THAT, JUST SOME OF IT.
AND PEOPLE WOULD SAY NO, VOTE MYSELF A LITTLE BIT OF HIGHER TAX IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THAT MONEY >> THERE'S NO LEADERSHIP.
>> RAY HARTMANN, ASKING TH E SHOOT THEM UP SHELL WHICH IS THE GAS STATION IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.
THERE.
ACTUALLY A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
YOU CALLED I BUT THE CITY IS THINKING ABOUT TAKING AWAY ITS LICENSE.
DON'T YOU THINK THE CITY, BECAUSE THERE ARE STATIONS IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS WHY DON'T THEY PUT A C TWO OF POLICE OFFICERS TO WATCH IT?
> MURDER SHELL.
MATT O'LEARY AND DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS HAVE SUED THE SHELL AND THE CITY INEXPLICITLY IS TAKING DEFENSE.
AND IT'S IS AN OUTDOOR FENTANYL MARKET.
FROM THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS.
THEY WON THE LAWSUIT, BE THEY ARE TECHNICALLY OUTSIDE O THE ZONING.
IF YOU PUT A COMMON SENSE TO IT, A LOT OF DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICTS DON'T HAVE GAS STATIONS.
STATION 2349 DOWNTOW IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN.
MY POINT IS THIS.
IT IS A MAGNET, AND IT'S KIND OF CONSISTENT WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING.
THEY HAVE GOT, I THINK, 25 TIMES AS MANY RESIDENTS DOWNTOWN, IT'S BECAUSE THEY LISTENED TO THE RESIDENTS.
THE RE NOT RESIDENTS.
WE DON'T WANT TO LISTEN.
>> SO THEY CLOSE IT DOWN, AND I HIT THE POWERBALL, AND I THINK THE GOOD PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY NEED A STORE AND MOTOR MART.
I'M GOING TO GOING TO HIRE A WHOLE BUNCH OF SECURITY AND I'M GOING TO KEEP IT SAFE.
ARE WE TRYING TO DRIVE OUT THE PEOPLE THAT OWN IT AND G PEOPLE YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
I DON'T CHOICE THAN TO SAY WE CANNOT DRIVE ANY BUSINESS OUT UNTIL WE TRY TO TAME THE SAID BUSINESS.
>> THE WHOLE THING ABOUT MAKING THEM CLOSE AT 11:00, CAN BEER.
OF ZONE ANYHOW?
THAT WAS THE CITY.
>> THE ARGUMENT THEY WON BEFORE THE JUDGE, THEY NEVER HAD A ZONED PROPERLY.
>> 20-YEAR-OLD ISSUE.
>> EXACTLY.
EXACTLY.
THE POINT IS IF YOU ARE THERE ILLEGALLY, THE FACT IS YOU ARE NOT PROTECTE IT'S THE CITY'S FAULT.
>> THAT'S A MAGNET TO PEOPLE.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S THE BUSINESS'S FAULT IF PEOPLE CONGREGATE THERE.
>> Y >> N >> THEY ENCOURAG >> WHO ENCOURAGES IT?
>> THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN FINE WITH IT.
>> WHY DID THEY HIRE SECURITY?
>> I THINK IT'S A DEEPER PROBLEM THAN THE FACT IT'S A GAS STATION.
>> THE REPRESENTATIV SUBSTACK IS FOLLOWING THIS THINKING THAT THE SCHNUCKS IN SOUTH ST. LOUIS, OH, YOU HAVE CRIME OUTSIDE SO SCHNUCKS IS AT FAULT.
THE MANUFACTURER.
>> I'M ARE, THEY HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FIGHT FOR 2 >> A LOT OF RESIDENTS DON'T WANT MARDI GRAS DOWN THERE, HATE THAT TWO WEEKS.
>&g >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF A NEIGHBORHOOD CAN DECIDE WHAT GOES AND WHAT COME GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE N IT COULD HAPPEN SOMEPLACE ELSE.
>> OPEN THE DRUG MARKET AND THEIR ALLEGATIONS.
THEIR ALLEGATIONS ARE THAT THE OWNERS OF THE -- OPERATORS OF THE STATION HAVE DISCOURAGED PEOPLE FROM MAKING 911 CALLS.
THAT'S THE ALLEGATIONS.
>> ALMOST EVERY NIGHT, AND THE POST DISPATCH, THE GAS STATION AND THE MISSOURI GRI PEOPLE WOULD GO AND HAVE A DRINK, AND RAY, THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE CONGREGATING, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM DOWNTOWN.
>> DOWNTOW AND I DON'T THINK YOU STOP IT BY SAYING WE ARE JUST GOING TO START SHUTTING DOWN BUSINESSES.
>> THEY MADE THE CASE THAT THIS IS A BUSINESS OUTSIDE ITS ZONING.
>> I THINK I USED TO BE UP AT THAT STATION, NOT EVERY DAY.
TO GO THERE, TOO >> THAT WOULD BE DO FOR TOURIST WHEN THEY HAD HOW MANY MURDERS?
>> PUT A POLICE CRUISER IN FRO OF THE PLACE.
>> THEY DON'T HA CRUISERS.
CLOSE THE BUSINESSES.
>> THAT WILL BE GREAT.
WE HAVE THANK YOU, RAY.
IT'S NOW TIME TO FIND OUT WHAT FOLKS HAD TO SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK'S PROGRAM.
LET' FROM THE WAY FOLKS ON THE PANEL TALK, I PERSONALLY WOULD CONCLUDE THAT NONE OF THEM HAS STEPPED FOOT IN A REC CENTER.
TWELFTH AND PARK WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO START, PROBABLY TO THE NINE PBS STUDIOS.
A GOOD PORTION OF THE RAMS MONEY SHOULD BE USED TO PRY MORE YOUTH CENTERS LIKE THIS ONE.
THE CITY'S TURNING DOWN BO CLARK'S DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN NORTH CI THAT'S IN SA BE WHAT COMES TO NORTH CITY IS A PIPE DREAM FROM MICHAEL OF SALT LAKE CITY.
SINGLE DIGIT TEMPS HAVE FROSTED BRAINS OF THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION INFLATION, HIGHER GASOLINE, RETAIL PRICES, PEOPLE ARE NO GOING TO ADD ANOTHER HOUSEHOLD COST BY BUYING AN AMAZON PACKAGE TO WATCH CARDINAL BASEBALL.
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