♪ >> If we were right to end birthright citizenship, we would be ironically increasing the number of undocumented individuals in the United States.

>> What would an end to birthright citizenship?

Me, turns explain.

Plus a judge's decision about the homeless woman cited by police while she was in labor.

>> I don't have to run from it because I know that it could possibly be of help for someone else.

>> And he received help at a Louisville Addiction Recovery Center.

Now he's giving it.

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♪ ♪ >> Good Evening and welcome to Kentucky edition on this last day of January, January 31st.

It is Friday.

You know, we're ready for the weekend.

We do.

You are too.

I'm Renee Shaw and thank you so much for joining us tonight.

And executive order from President Donald Trump calls U.S. citizenship a privilege and a gift and his administration hopes to end that for children born to immigrants here illegally or temporarily.

The order is blocked for now but will continue to play out in the courts.

Our June Leffler has more from Kentucky lawyers on the topic.

>> It's a long road ahead for Trump's executive order limiting birthright citizenship to win it.

They're going to have to just persuade the U.S. Supreme Court eventually when it gets to that level.

>> That all of this press event in all of this understanding for all of these years about what the 14th Amendment means was wrong.

>> But conservatives say Trump still has a good case.

>> He did and the 14th Amendment.

He did not repeal the 14th Amendment.

He simply.

I issued an executive order that dealt with a specific class of people that he believes should not have birthright citizenship.

>> The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution corrected the slavery era Supreme Court decision that African-Americans could never be citizens.

>> The Framers of the 14th Amendment want to establish once and for all that anyone born here on U.S. soil, no matter their immigration status and no matter where they have come here to be slaves were the children of slaves, etc.

They were going to be U.S. citizens.

>> Birthright citizenship was strength in the 18 98 case of Wong, Kim Ark, who was born to Chinese citizens living in the states.

But again, conservatives say Trump's order falls in line with that precedent.

>> And the distinguishing feature about that particular cases.

His parents are here illegally and Trump is saying if your parents are not here legally, then you don't have citizenship.

I wouldzeze Trump's interpretation that you cannot break the laws in the United States and then avail yourself of the laws of the United States to gain citizenship.

>> If the order prevails, what would happen to so many babies born in the U.S. to undocumented immigrants are temporary residence.

They are >> going to be permanent second class individuals on U.S. soil because many of them would not be eligible for citizenship in the country of.

For which their parents came and they wouldn't be citizens hears.

They would be without citizenship anywhere.

>> If we were right to end birthright citizenship, we would be ironically increasing the number of undocumented individuals in the United States.

>> Nima Kulkarni is a state representative serving the 40th district in Jefferson County and she's an immigration lawyer.

>> The order also goes on to say that, you know, no agency, right?

No federal agency will issue documents that would constitute establishing citizenship and they won't accept documents that are issued from a state or local authority, which is, of course, the birth certificates.

>> Clients will build lives and families in the U.S. while they're on years long work visas and waiting in line to gain permanent resident.

>> Think about how that would impact, whose apparent for my having an undocumented child that has no rights and privileges, even the ones that you may enjoy as a temporary worker.

>> Judges and justices will continue these legal and practical arguments before families face the consequences for Kentucky edition.

I'm John Leffler.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> In other news, prosecutors in Louisville have now dropped charges against a woman cited for unlawful camping while she was in labor.

This happened last September.

Lieutenant Caleb Stewart cited the 34 year-old woman after the Kentucky General Assembly passed the Safer Kentucky Act last year that anti crime law includes language banning people from many public and private spaces in from them sleeping outdoors.

The pregnant woman was under and interstate 65 overpass.

Wednesday, according to the Lexington Herald-Leader, the Jefferson County attorneys office asked the judge to dismiss the charge against the woman in an interview with Waves 3 and Louisville.

Earlier this month, police chief Paul Humphrey said knowing what he knows now he thinks everyone would have handled the situation differently.

Louisville Mayor Craig Greenberg says he's committed to helping the city address its biggest challenges.

He outlined his vision for Kentucky's largest city yesterday during his annual state of the city address.

Greenberg said the city is making progress in tackling crime, citing a nearly 40% drop in the total amount of gun violence since 2021.

But he acknowledged the need for continued public safety reforms.

Greenberg also address housing saying increasing the housing supply would help the workforce and strengthen the community.

>> Louisville has to create more housing and more price points in more places to attract more people, more businesses and more investment.

Do all of that.

We have to change some of our outdated laws.

So I asked my fellow public servants who are here with us today and all around the state and Metro in the General Assembly on Capitol Hill.

Let's all come together and like never before to make these improvements for housing.

Let's make sure that everyone in Louisville and our entire Commonwealth has a great place to call them.

>> The mayor also highlighted the Belvedere expansion project aimed at revitalizing downtown by improving public spaces and enhancing economic opportunities.

Congressman James Comer of Kentucky's first district says he's thinking about running for governor in 2027 comer ran for governor and the Republican primary in 2015 losing to Matt Bevin by less than 90 votes.

Comer has been.

Congressman for the first congressional district since 2016, he told Spectrum One news, quote, There's going to be an obvious opportunity for a new leader in Kentucky.

And I think that I could provide that leadership.

We won't be making a decision any time soon.

But it's something I'm very seriously considering, unquote.

There's new concern in Kentucky about funding education and where the money is going.

Last week, Commissioner Robbie Fletcher said the Kentucky Department of Education is looking at a funding shortfall.

About 40 million dollars in state support for local school districts.

And on January 14th, a group known as the can start to student voice team filed a lawsuit over Kentucky's education spending.

The group claims the state has denied students and adequate to equitable education on last nights or last Monday's Kentucky.

Tonight I talk with key lawmakers about that lawsuit and Kentucky spending on public schools.

>> With this litigation that you talked about from the Kentucky student voice team.

>> I'm worried that perhaps they have a legitimate argument.

Our students really getting everything that they need to be competitive in a global market.

Is their education, equitable from county to county.

Is it a good education if it doesn't include arts and humanities?

There are so many things that we need to come back to the drawing board and make sure that we're covering and we can't do that in a budget deficit.

We need to be in a much different place financially for students benefit.

I was really lucky that I was in school when Kara happened to Kentucky Education Reform Act because that drastically improved the quality of Kentucky education.

But over the course of the last 30 years, we've had some missteps along the way.

And I'm not sure we're fulfilling those promises that we made to students.

What I was, you know, so I really hope that not only will address the shortfall but we'll start strict strategizing for the future so that students don't feel that they need to be part of it advocacy and litigation.

That's not what I want kids to need to do.

I want them to be able to focus on the basics.

And right now that's not the situation.

>> Well, I think you've seen over the past few years that we've continued to increase that and we have tried to provide what he's been asked for the talking points a day be used in the past or is not kept up with inflation and those type things.

But as we just saw with that of the came out, you can take part, get education, their own data shows that we have kept her in and fun to be even more than adjusted for inflation.

So we have continued to provide money for these for the school district said we're going to continue to prior record funding school districts.

That is our priority for they are the students of this state.

I think what you're going to see us at this point to shift and say, OK, you continue to come and ask for money.

We're going to continue to provide a record funding.

But at this point, we're going to start holding you accountable.

Religious school district will look school boards and superintendents and say wise and money not getting down to the classroom.

They're going to have to come in to justify their budgets and show us where they're spending their money so that we can ensure that they're being good stewards of the taxpayer money.

>> You can hear more about that part of the conversation as well as our discussion about artificial intelligence, taxes and the minimum wage in dei and so much more.

It's all online on demand at KET DOT Org.

Slash K why tonight?

4 freshman members of the Kentucky General Assembly will give us their perspectives on the state issues that you care about.

That's coming up Monday night on Kentucky tonight.

And as always, we want you to send us your questions and comments again.

That's Monday at 8 Eastern 7 central right here on KET.

♪ Time now for us to go INSIDE POLITICS.

We're actually going to talk with Doctor Stephen Voss, who is a political science professor at the University of Kentucky about what executive orders are.

And we know that President Donald Trump has issued at least a score and some change of them in the last 9.10, days and Dr bosses kind enough to help us understand what they mean and the power that the president is exercising.

Thank you, Dr.

Vast for your time.

Some are not so talk to us about.

Let's talk about the volume of executive orders that President Trump has issued so far.

Is that historic are precedent setting in some way.

>> You certainly hit the ground running.

Now, if you go back to some presidents from early in the 20th century, they used executive orders a lot, but they didn't have Allison scope.

Usually of the ones Donald Trump has been issuing.

So in that sense in terms of the amount of policy Donald Trump is trying to change unilaterally out of his administration using executive orders.

We really haven't seen anything like this before.

>> And what is an executive order and can it be a revote?

>> Yeah, I mean, one sense it's it's a simple thing.

Donald Trump's the boss, he's the head of the chain of command and the federal bureaucracy and he tells employees what to do now that an executive orders him telling some some set of his employees want to do not what complicates an executive water as opposed to some order handed down by the boss of a private company is that Donald Trump can only issue an executive order on give an order like this.

It's consistent with the Constitution and the laws that Congress has passed.

So in in general, one of president tells the bureaucracy do something he saying this is my interpretation of a law that Congress has passed act upon my interpretation.

>> And so there are some and we will go through the let me because there are more than we can have time to really delve into where there's been some question about whether or not he is expanding his powers of executive privilege, if you will be on what the Constitution would allow and you think about Article one that empowers the lawmaking branch consisting of the House and the Senate to do what some say Donald Trump is trying to do in some instances.

>> Right.

So, you know.

Donald Trump could be IX seeding what the laws Congress passed.

The loud that would be one way Donald Trump could be challenged and someone could take his administration court saying that his interpretation of that congressional act is wrong.

That really wouldn't be an expansion of presidential power.

It would be what normal executive order and the normal review process.

No, we we have have a couple of cases where Donald Trump is moving closer to we're entering the Constitution.

I'm thinking in particular of the 14th, Amendment's birthright citizenship clause where he's really seems to be pushing a federal case.

We're the course would have to decide whether his interpretation of the U.S. Constitution is correct.

Such some mixture of the court's interpreting laws.

The court interpreting the Constitution is pushing those boundaries, probably forcing them to have some of those decisions.

>> And we know that a federal judge has gotten involved in blocked at least a part of an executive order.

Do you think that we're going to see more influence of the court in these actions to come?

>> Oh, sure.

We had a growing tendency of local courts, local federal courts look at district court stopping things.

The president and the Congress is trying to single-handedly that can't last long eventually you need a review higher up.

But many of these things Donald Trump's doing will get at least slow down.

Please have a break.

Berks tapped by lawsuits of this sort.

>> So what does Congress have at its disposal to respond to what the president is doing?

Do they have any recourse?

>> Mostly in Serie Congress has all the recourse they want because with Donald Trump is doing is claiming to faithfully execute.

There are laws.

Thank you.

Just passed new laws and it's enough of Congress were unhappy with what you're doing and they can override his veto if he try to push back against their attempt to get clear on the lawn, stop what he's doing.

The difficulty is that when Congress wants to overturn presidential actions, they're usually enough people in Congress who like what the president said that they want to actually pass that law to push back.

All right.

>> And could we see the Supreme Court's the United States get more involved once those decisions, perhaps a repeal beyond just the federal judges.

>> Talking to the Supreme Court, conservative court has declared more rights than the federal judiciary to reconsider what the executive branch tries to do.

Light work.

So you know that just because your concerns in the quarter concerns in the White House doesn't mean they're going to agree with each other of the Supreme Court could overturn these these interpretations from the Trump administration of the laws and they also could disagree with the Trump interpretation of the Constitution.

>> Well, thank you.

A political science professor at the University of Kentucky, Dr. Stephen Voss, we appreciate you helping us understand a little bit about what's been happening in these last few days.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

♪ ♪ >> Affordable housing is on the way for some Lexington seniors.

It's a partnership between the property management company.

Winter would incorporated.

>> And Woodland Christian Church, the project is being praised for checking several boxes.

We are so excited to be breaking ground with winter would today.

>> And today we break ground for the oaks at Woodland.

That'll be 38 affordable housing units on this grassy lot that we stand on right here and our historic building.

There will be 30 units of affordable housing for seniors here and then 8 will be and our historic building on every floor.

So next to our office spaces are ministry spaces and our sanctuary.

There will be affordable housing as well as renovated ministry space.

This groundbreaking for the Oaks and Woodland.

>> It's truly a special moment for our city.

It's not everyday that we get to gather to celebrate a project, the lens so many important goals, preserving historic building creating much needed affordable housing for our seniors.

And giving new life and purpose to existing space.

It's so wonderful to have our seniors integrated into such a divers, walkable and connected neighborhood like Aylesbury and so close to our beautiful Woodland Park and just so many important amenities, the mission of our churches to do justice, love, mercy and to walk humbly with our God.

And we believe that offering affordable housing for seniors allows us to do just that and also opened our doors to the community and provide life-giving services and partnership that heal the mind, body and spirit.

We believe that Lexington through this project is becoming the mother Church of Lexington, Kentucky.

>> By adding 38 units of affordable senior housing while keeping the historic Woodland Christian Church.

>> As an anchor for the community, this project shows us just how much can be accomplished with creativity, persistence.

And as you all have seen, strong partnerships.

By using been housing, a historic tax credits to bring this project to life.

We see a great example of innovative infill development.

And I hope that this sets the stage for even more projects just like it on into the future.

>> The Oaks at Woodland Development will cost 13 million dollars.

♪ ♪ On this week's inside Louisville with Kelsey Starks.

We take you inside the healing place.

The nationally recognized addiction recovery Center based in Louisville.

It's you make model of peer accountability means that more than 80% of employees are also alumni of the program.

Donald Finkel is one of them.

♪ >> I'm actually from Shelbyville some a country boy idea live in an area that was pretty rough for the most part.

I mean, it was different.

Got into a lot of things that probably let me hear it.

I just want to fit in with a what I thought was the right crew, drug activity.

No brother was trying to sell drugs or use drugs plus ticket in 2010.

Really, really start going downhill due to my substance abuse cited of having another challenge that I lost a CPS for a little bit.

But in my eyes, it was like I lost another kid.

Like my man said, I just buried in the kid.

Warfield another kid.

Not quite sure.

But I do love from the deep in from that point on just pretty much numb myself.

And I ended up putting drugs before everything and everyone else.

Yeah, it lead to homelessness.

We had a Jakarta for a stadium for probably 7 to 9 months before I ended up here.

The crazy thing is it was like 5 minutes away from my family.

Anyone would take me in on the counts.

But it was just too shameful to look at him to stay that it was actually the winners.

And so is a pretty rough.

All the way up to the plane was like, I don't I don't have any more options right?

It was about other options.

As far as we're at the state was just like every trip with the well fields just not working toward.

So that's why that's how a crash landed here at the healing place.

It's a crash landing cause like I really didn't have a choice and up filling a crowd to the door credible whole way down.

64.

It's like an atom here.

Like what I do know what the only the only thing I KET for sure is that I didn't have a better idea.

So I just I just stay tuned to come up with a better idea in between here and there somewhere.

I took some tools in that allows me to stay sober today and just continue to grow.

And so I just get to a day and then the next day had done it again.

361.

4 days later is when I was moved out of here, family.

♪ >> But everyday from that point, I was like I want to leave every day in.

One of the things I was told was like to just get through the day.

Want to leave today.

But unless it is says, if you want to leave today, put off to tomorrow.

If you want to leave tomorrow to make a decision.

I use that every day I wanted to leave from like him to come a little bit of planning.

And I'm just gonna stay and to figure down.

>> And that all the way until.

I couldn't application of the steel have normal for him.

Knowing that I get to wake up and coming to work in do with some ad for me, it's good that I have a part of my past that I'm not willing to shut the door.

I don't have to run from it because I know that it could possibly be of help for someone else.

>> This Sunday, Kelsey Starks sits down with the new U.S. president and CEO of the Healing Place John Mark Hack, who was returning to his hometown for the first time after a long career in business and government hear his compelling story on the next inside Louisville.

That's this Sunday at 12 noon.

11:00AM Central right here on KET.

>> Speaking of Louisville, KET, he is so excited to unveil our brand new production center and the Derby City.

The new location is and the historic American Life Building on West Main Street at the Belvedere.

The space features a new studio with modern set designs and state-of-the-art equipment allowing us to enhance our KET Productions, including Kentucky Health and News quiz.

It also boasts 2 editing suites, a control room, production offices, 2 conference rooms and spaces for those in education technology fund raising and production departments earlier this week at UT hosted an open house of the new location.

Given the public and KU to supporters a chance to see it up close and in person, some recent productions from the new studio already online.

And you can see them right now at KET Dot Org and we cannot wait to show you much, much more.

Well, look for plenty of food, music and nature all across Kentucky.

This weekend could be a good weekend.

Our Toby Gibbs has more on that and the price is right right here in Kentucky.

And this look at what's happening around the Commonwealth.

♪ >> And to Fleetwood Mac should flock to Covington this weekend.

Tell me lies the Fleetwood Mac experience is coming to Madison Theater tomorrow.

It's terrific tribute show will treat you to the band's greatest hits.

Plus almost 80 Nick Solo work.

So you don't want to miss it.

If Jeremy Hicks music Festival is tomorrow and Somerset, this festival features great music with headliner Elvie Shane plus delicious food and a silent auction.

All proceeds from the event benefit Saint Jude Children's Hospital support the fight against childhood cancer at this.

Also in the event.

It's the perfect time of year to start planning your garden.

And if you've been interested in planting more pollinators in your space, this workshop is for you.

The creasy may have nature preserve is hosting a garden for the birds, butterflies and bees on Thursday.

Learn what to plan, how to grow it and why will benefit the wildlife around you?

Fans of the price is right.

Come on down to Bowling Green on Wednesday.

Experience the price is right live.

And on televised interactive stage version of your favorite TV game show play Plinko spin the big Wheel.

Even when a fabulous showcase prices.

Don't miss your chance to play this legendary game show there's another interesting TV event in Bowling Green.

You should know about.

The city was recently featured in the International Travel Show.

Global Child Travel with her post at the Cross Church is hosting a free screening of the episode tomorrow.

Check out Bowling Green on the small screen this weekend.

Sandhill cranes migrate to barren River Lake State Resort park every year.

The next weekend.

They have a nature watch event dedicated to serving and learning about the beautiful bar striations required.

So be sure to sign up for this unique opportunity.

And that's what's happening around the Commonwealth.

I'm Toby Gibbs.

>> Thank you as always.

To be Gibbs do it for us this week.

And we hope you have a great weekend to come and we'll see you right back here again Monday night at 6.30, Eastern 5.30, central for Kentucky edition, where we inform connect and inspire.

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Take good care.

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