>> THE OPENING DAY OF THE 2022 SESSION BROUGHT CONTENTION IN THE LOWER CHAMBER OVER HOUSE DEBATE RULES AS LEGISLATIVE REDISTRICTING MAPS FROM BOTH CHAMBERS ARE HEADED FOR COMIET YES CONSIDERATION.

WE WE RECAP THE APTION OF DAY 12022 KENTUCKY GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN REGULAR SESSION NOW ON LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES FOR SUMMARY OF SIGNIFICANT HAPPENINGS EACH WEEK NIGHT OF THE LEGISLATURE I'M REASON ANY SHAW.

THE FIRST DAY OF THE SESSION IS TYPICALLY QUIET AN QUICK WITH ROUTINE MATTERS TO SET THE STAGE FOR THE WORK TO COME, BUT IN THE HOUSE, THAT TEMPO SLOWED SOME WITH HOUSE DEMOCRATS BLISTERING CRITIQUE OF GOP LEADERS FORCE RULES CHANGES OVER TIME LIMITS ON FLOOR DEBATE STEWED STEVEN RUDY ANNOUNCED THE RULES THIS TIME AROUND ARE THE SAME AS LAST SESSION WITH SOME FOLLOWING SESSIONS HE TICKED OFF, RULE 12 ELIMINATES THE 10 MINUTES GIVEN FOR EACH SIDE FOR DEBATE ONCE A MOTION FOR PREVIOUS SEE QUESTIONINGS HAS BEEN ADOPPEDDED AND DON'TED FOR PREVIOUS QUESTION CEASES FURTHER DISCUSSION AND BRINGS THE MEASURE TO AN IMMEDIATE VOTE WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PROCEDURE ESTABLISHED BY MASON'S MANUAL.

WE STILL CAN USE THE LIMIT DEBATE BUT IT WILL NO LONGER BE PART OF PREVIOUS QUESTION, PREVIOUS QUESTION WILL NOW END ALL DEBATE AND TAKE A VOTE.

RULE 13 IN 67 YOUR EXPLANATION OF VOTE MAY BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE TIME ALLOTTED IN LIMITED DEBATE.

ANY TIME ALLOTTED WILL BE EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED BETWEEN BOTH SIDES AT THE DISCRETION OF THE SPEAKER.

RULE 40 ADDS THE BUILDING CODE TO SPECIFIC JURISDICTION OF THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON LICENSE OCCUPATIONS AND ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS.

RULE 49 REMOVES THE PROCESS FOR POSTING BILLS OR RESOLUTIONS FROM HEARING THEM IN COMMITTEE ONCE A BILL IS REFERRED, IT WILL NOW BE CONSIDERED POSTED.

SO IF A BILL IS REFERRED, IT WILL BE CONSIDERED POSTED.

AND RULE 67A CONTINUES TO ALLOW THE USE OF REMOTE VOTING DURING A HOUSE WHILE IS IN SESSION AND IT ALSO CLARIFIES THAT ADDITIONALLY THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS ARE PERMITTED TO USE REMOTE VOTING AS WELL BUT THE SAME RULES APPLY TO THE HOUSE AS THEY DO IN THE COMMITTEES.

YOU MUST BE IN YOUR CAPITOL OFFICE OR IN THE PARKING LOT IN YOUR AUTOMOBILE IF YOU HAVE A POSITIVE TEST.

>> HOUSE MINORITY WHIP ANGIE HATTON DENOUNCED DEBATE TIME LIMITS LATER ENDORSE SAYING THAT THE MOVE VIOLATES THE SPIRIT OF HOW A REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

OTHER DEMOCRATS, TOO, WONDERED WHAT REPUBLICANS FEARED WOULD HAPPEN IF MEASURES WERE GIVEN MORE FLOOR DELIBERATION.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD POSSIBLY DISAGREE WITH THESE RULES MORE.

WE PASS THINGS THAT I'VE DISAGREED WITH BEFORE BUT THIS ONE FEELS LIKE A NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF WHAT'S LEFT OF OUR DEMOCRACY.

MY CONSTITUENTS DESERVE BETTER.

THEY DID NOT ELECT ME AND SEND ME DOWN HERE TO SIT AND BE QUIET.

WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS THEM, THEY NEED ME, THE VOICE THEY ALOCATED TO BE ABLE TO GET UP AND SPEAK ABOUT IT.

AND SINCE THERE ARE SO FEW IN THE MINORITY PARTY NOW,I ONLY SUSPECT THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS IN THE MAJORITY PARTY WHO ALSO ARE BEING COMPLETELY SILENCED.

I WOULD URGE YOU TO JOIN ME IN VOTING AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION.

IF YOU FEEL THAT AND IF YOU THINK YOUR CONSTITUENTS DESERVE BETTER AND FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK FREELY.

THIS ARBITRARIED LIMITING OF DEBATE SILENCES ALL OF OUR VOICES.

BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

10 MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PUT INTO KRS FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG?

10 MINUTES TO DEBATE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS?

THAT COULD AFFECT HALF OF THE POPULATION.

WE HAVE 4 MILLION KRKS YANS OUT HERE -- KENTUCKIANS OUT HERE AND THEY ARE BEING DISSERVICED AND PROHIBITED PRETTY MUCH FROM EXERCISING THEIR ISSUES AND THEIR PARTICIPATION IN ELECTED GOVERNMENT.

WHAT ARE YOU SO AFRAID OF THAT YOU HAVE TO LIMIT DEBATE ON ISSUES?

WHAT SCARCE YOU -- THERE'S 24 DEMOCRATS IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO LIMIT.

WE CAN'T STOP A BILL.

WHAT ARE YOU SO AFRAID OF?

>> THE RESOLUTION ON HOUSE RULES WAS ADOPTED 72-25.

A REPUBLICAN FROM RICHMOND DEANNA FRAZIER GORDEN JOINED DEMOCRATS AGAINST THE RESOLUTION.

THE KEY MATTER TO COME BEFORE LAWMAKERS THIS WEEK THAT IS EXPECTED TO KEEP THEM HERE THROUGH SATURDAY IS REDISTRICTING.

LAST WEEK, HOUSE REPUBLICAN LEADERS PRESENTED THEIR REDRAWN MAPS FOR THE LOWER CHAMBER AND A MEASURE WAS FILED TODAY FOR ACTION TO BEGIN TOMORROW IN COMMITTEE.

I TALKED WITH HOUSE STATE GOVERNMENT CHAIR JERRY MILLER ABOUT THE PLANS EARLIER TODAY IN OUR CAPITOL AN EXSTUDIO.

>> CHAIRMAN MILLER THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR A FEW MINUTES OF YOUR TIME ON THE FIRST DAY.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME RENEE.

>> YEAH, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT REDISTRICTING.

THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN DEDICATING MONTHS TO AENING LO WITH FEW OTHERS TO COME UP WITH THESE HOUSE PLANS.

GIVE US THE GOALS YOU HAD IN MIND AND WHAT YOU ACHIEVED AND THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD WHEN THIS WILL MOVE OUT.

>> WELL, WE OBVIOUSLY FOCUS ON THE KENTUCKY CONSTITUTION, THE U.S. CONSTITUTION AND OTHER LAWS THAT ARE RELEVANT COURT DECISIONS THAT ARE RELEVANT SO WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE AND BEFORE WE EVER STARTED AND STO WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE GOOD LOGICAL CONCLUSIONS, WE TRY TO MAKE IT COMPACT WHEN WE CAN.

WE TRY TO KEEP COMMUNITIES TOGETHER.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT'S LIKE AREAS OF HIGH POVERTY, YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THOSE WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE A MILLION DOLLAR HOME, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST AND IT'S JUST NOT -- IF YOU CAN AVOID IT, IT'S A GOOD THING TO AVOID.

THE KENTUCKY CONSTITUTION CREATES SOME CHALLENGES AND ACTUALLY WE WIND UP HAVING A LITTLE CONFLICT WITH U.S. CONSTITUTION BECAUSE WE CAN'T SPLIT MOST COUNTIES.

THERE ARE 97 COUNTIES WE DID NOT SPLIT BECAUSE OF THE PROVISION THE KENTUCKY CONSTITUTION.

SO WE'RE REALLY 23 COUNTIES -- ACTUALLY 21 WERE LARGE ENOUGH TO SPLIT.

THERE ARE OVER 105% OF THE AVERAGE AND THEN THE CONSTITUTION SAYS AND AS FEW OTHERS AS YOU HAVE TO, WHICH WE HAVE ONE IN THE EAST AND ONE IN THE WEST THAT WE HAD TO SPLIT, WHICH IS NORMAL.

THAT'S WHAT IS ON THE EXISTING PLAN THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

>> YEAH.

SO YOU EXPECT CHALLENGES, EVEN THOUGH YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE DONE WHAT YOU CONSTITUTIONALLY WERE ABLE TO DO AND IN THE PROGRAMS TERSE OF THE CONSTITUTION, YOU STILL FEEL LIKE THERE WILL BE CHALLENGES BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING ACROSS THE NATION.

>> I THINK YOU LOOK AT THE LAST 30 YEARS WHEN THE REPUBLICANS WERE IN THE MINORITY IN THE HOUSE, THERE WERE FOUR SUITS.

AND I DON'T EXPECT NOW THAT WE'RE IN THE MAJORITY FOR THAT TO CHANGE.

YOU LOOK NATIONWIDE AND OF COURSE SOME ARE RELATE TO CONGRESSIONAL MAPS AND SENATE MAPS, HOUSE MAPS AND AROUND THE COUNTRY THERE ARE SCORES OF LAWSUITS ALREADY AND INVOLVING -- I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER BUT IT'S WELL OVER 30 STATES, SO THIS IS NORMAL.

THERE ARE SOME NATIONAL GROUPS THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.

THEY CHALLENGE REDISTRICTING PLANS.

BUT AS I INDICATED INITIALLY, WE ENTERED INTO THIS FROM THE GETGO SAYING WE MAY GET SUED BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE A SUIT BY DOING SOMETHING STUPID.

>> SO YOU THINK THESE ARE DEFENDABLE -- >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> IF THEY ARE CHALLENGED.

>> I FEEL VERY GOOD.

I'M NOT A LAWYER.

WE CONSULT WITH A LOT OF LAWYERS.

I FEEL EXTREMELY GOOD ABOUT THESE MAPS.

THEY ARE MUCH MOVER COMPACT, WHILE THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, IT'S A GOOD THING TO HAVE.

>> WHEN YOU SAY COMPACT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT.

>> FROM HOW FAR YOU GO FROM ONE DISTRICT TO ANOTHER, WHAT -- IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU KNOW IT WHEN YOU SEE IT.

IF YOU TAKE THE EXISTING MAP FOR CHRISTIAN COUNTY, YOU TAKE THE EXISTING MAP FOR BULLITT COUNTY, IS THERE SOME ODD DISTRICTS?

THERE STRING DISTRICT I CALL THEM WHERE THEY'RE STRINGING TOGETHER A LOT OF COMMUNITIES TO ACHIEVE A CERTAIN OBJECTIVE.

IF YOU CAN AVOID THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE CONSTITUTION ONE MAN, ONE VOTE AND THE COUNTY SPLITTING, YOU TRY TO DO THAT.

>> RIGHT.

YOU SAY WITHIN THOSE DEVIATIONS OF 5%.

>> RIGHT.

>> WHICH -- POPULATION.

>> AND THERE WILL BE FOUR REDISTRICTING PLANS.

THE HOUSE, WHICH IS THE ONE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THERE THRB A KENTUCKY SENATE, THERE WILL BE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION AND THERE WILL BE A JUDICIAL BILL.

>> THE JUDICIAL BILL WILL ALSO COME THROUGH OR CORRECT OR THROUGH ANOTHER COMMITTEE?

>> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

BUT I'M NOT 100% CERTAIN RIGHT NOW.

>> SURE.

SO THAT'S NOT PART GETTING -- NOT A PART OF PROCESS THIS WEEK.

>> IT'S TIME CRITICAL AS THE OTHERS BECAUSE OF FILING DEADLINE ISSUES.

>> WHICH BE WILL MOVED AS WE UNDERSTAND.

>> WHICH WILL CERTAINLY BE MOVED.

THAT'S AN EXTRA BILL THAT WILL HAVE TO BE FILED TO CHANGE THE FILING DEADLINES.

>> AS YOU KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CRITICISM BY TRANSPARENCY AND OPENNESS OF THE PROCESS AND RUSHED NATURE, WILL THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT'S MAPS BEFORE A VOTE IS TAKEN.

>> THERE ALREADY HAS BEEN.

WE RELEASED MAPS LAST WEEK.

THESE MAPS HAVE BEEN -- THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC EXPOSURE THANKS REALLY TO MAINLY TO LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS.

THEY HAVE BEEN VERY OUT FRONT IN THEIR PROCESS.

WE DISAGREE WITH PARTS OF THEIR PROCESS, WHICH IS THEIR GUIDING PRINCIPLE IS COMPACTNESS AND IGNORING MOST OTHER PROGRAMS TERSE.

THEY HAVE 11 DISTRICTS WHERE THERE ARE INCUMBANTS, 2 OR MORE INCUMBANTS RUNNING IN THE SAME DISTRICT.

WE THINK.

>> WERE THOSE ALL REPUBLICANS?

>> OH, NO.

BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK THEY JUST LOOKED AT COMPACTNESS, NOT NECESSARILY WHERE PEOPLE LIVED AT ALL, REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT.

BUT WE BELIEVE THAT IF VOTERS ELECTED A PERSON, IT SHOULD BE THE VOTERS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, IT SHOULD BE THE VOTERS THAT VOTE TO REMOVE THAT PERSON.

>> AND NOT REDRAWING LINES.

>> AND NOT REDRAWING MAPS.

IN SOME CASES IT WAS UNAVOIDABLE.

WE HAVE TWRO REPUBLICAN DISTRICTS AND TWO DEMOCRAT RICK.

>> IN JEFFERSON COUNSEL CAN I (THE TWO DEMOCRATS JEFFERSON COUNTY ONE IN THE EAST AND ONE IN THE WEST THAT WILL PIT TWO INCUMBENT REPUBLICANS, WHICH ARE UNAVOIDABLE BECAUSE AGAIN THE CONFLICT CREATED BY OUR CONSTITUTION, ONE MAN, ONE VOTE AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO -- THE MATH REALLY RULES IN SOME CASES THE MAPS ALMOST DRAW THEMSELVES BECAUSE OF THESE LIMITATIONS.

>> THE FORMER KENTUCKY HOUSE SPEAKER JEFF HOOVERRER WHEN HE WAS IN THE MINORITY LEADERSHIP POSITION IN THE LAST TIME THAT THESE DISTRICTS WERE REDRAWN HE WAS A BIG ADVOCATE FOR THIRD-PARTY COMMISSION TO TAKE THE REIGNS ON THAT.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE PROCESS IS FAIR ENOUGH WITH THE MAJORITY OR SUPER MAJORITY AS IT IS IN THIS CASE TO DO THE JOB OR SHOULD THERE BE SOME THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATOR WHO CAN LOOK PERHAPS MORE OBJECTIVELY AT THESE DIVISIONS AND DO THE RE-DRAWING?

>> FIRST THE KENTUCKY CONSTITUTION GIVES THE LEGISLATURE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DOING.

THIS REGARDING A COMMISSION, I WOULD ONLY LOOK TO OHIO WHICH DOES HAVE THIS, AND THEY HAVE -- IT'S NOT BEEN A PLEASANT PROCESS FOR THOSE OF YOU IN NORTHERN KENTUCKY, YOU KNOW THAT BUT THE REST OF US THAT AREN'T IN THAT MARKET, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ANGS OVER THE COMMISSION PLAN AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT'S NOT THE COMMISSION PLAN THAT'S GOING TO WIND UP GETTING PASSED.

AS FAR AS INPUT, I WILL GO BACK TO THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS, THEY HAVE ISSUED THREE SEPARATE MAPS ONE ABOUT A YEAR AGO BASED ON THE 2010 CENSUS.

ONE A DRAFT I BELIEVE IN SEPTEMBER AND THEN THEY ISSUED THEIR FINAL MAP THE FIRST WEEK IN DECEMBER.

I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB GETTING THE WORD OUT AND I STAY -- I KEEP AN EYE ON THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS SOCIAL MEDIA POSTINGS.

THEY GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND, GONE, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THEM FOR ALL OF THE EFFORT THEY TOOK TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE.

AS I TOLD THEM, THEIR MAPS HAVE HELPED US IN OUR PROCESS.

>> BUT THEY STILL SAID THEY CANNOT SUPPORT WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> RIGHT.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> SO LET'S GET TO THE TIMELINE HERE.

TODAY WE SPEAK ON MONDAY THERE WAS A DEBATE.

>> TUESDAY.

>> TUESDAY, I'M SORRY.

>> ON TUESDAY, IT FEELS LIKE A MONDAY.

>> FEELS LIKE A MONDAY.

>> FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL BUT IT IS TUESDAY FOR CERTAIN.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR TODAY ABOUT THE RULES THAT WOULD LIMIT THE TIME ON DEBATE AND IT WASN'T JUST FOR THIS ISSUE BUT IT'S A HOUSE RULE -- >> IT WAS A CHANGE TO THE EXISTING DEBATE LIMIT, WHICH IS RARELY INVOKED, I WILL SAY.

YES, TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF SESSION SO THE HOUSE WILL HAS INTRODUCED -- WE HAVE INTRODUCED OUR BILL, SAME THINGS HAPPENED TO THE SENATE IN THE SENATE.

EACH OF US WILL HAVE A COMMITTEE MEETING TOMORROW, HOPEFULLY PASS OUT THOSE BILLS OUT OF COMMITTEE TO THE FULL BODY AND ON THURSDAY, SENATE WILL PASS THE SENATE BILL, HOUSE WILL PASS THE HOUSE BILL, I BELIEVE AND THEN WE'LL SWITCH.

>> AND YOU WILL PASS EACH OTHER'S BILLS.

>> WE'LL PASS EACH OTHER'S BILLS, TRADITIONALLY, THAT'S DONE, AND THEN WE'LL ADD A SATURDAY AS A WORKDAY SO THAT WE IN 5 DAYS WE CAN PASS 4 REDISTRICTING PLANS AND A BILL TO EXTEND THE FILING DEADLINES.

THE FILING DEADLINE BILL I'VE BEEN TOLD -- I VENT SEEN THE BILL, IT'S NOT MY BILL WILL MOVE THE FILING DEADLINE BACK TO WHERE IT USED TO BE OF THE LAST TUESDAY IN JANUARY, WHICH I THINK IS THE 25th.

SO THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME FOR PEOPLE HAVING DONE THIS MORE THAN ONCE, IF YOU RUN FOR OFFICE, YOU'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY, SO I FEEL CERTAIN THE THREE WEEKS PLUS IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH TIME FOR OFFICE POTENTIAL OFFICE SEEKERS TO FIGURE OUT IF THEIR HEART AND THEIR FAMILY ARE IN SUPPORT OF THEIR DECISION TO RUN FOR OFFICE.

>> OF COURSE THERE'S A VETO-PROOF SUPER MAJORITY.

IF THE GOVERNOR DOES VETO IT IT CAN BE NULLIFIED BY THE REPUBLICAN DOMINATED LEGISLATURE.

>> RIGHT.

WHICH IT ULTIMATELY WILL BE AND THEN IT HAS AN EMERGENCY CLAUSE ON IT, WHICH MEANS IT GOES INTO EFFECT THE MOMENT IT IS PASSED FINALLY.

>> UH-HUH.

WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME CHAIRMAN MILLER AND YOUR SERVICE BECAUSE WE SHOULD SAY YOU ARE RETIRING.

>> YES, I DID NOT DRAW A DISTRICT FOR MYSELF.

>> AND YOU'VE MADE THAT POINT A COUPLE OF TIMES BUT WE APPRECIATE HAVING A FEW MINUTES WITH YOU AND YOUR SERVICE TO THE KENTUCKY GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

>> THANK YOU RENEE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

>> ASPIRITED DISCUSSION ABOUT REDISTRICTING WAS ON KET KENTUCKY'S TONIGHT LAST NIGHT AS I TALKED WITH LEGISLATIVE HOUSE SPEAKER DAVID MEADE STATE HOUSE MAPS ARE COMPACT DEAL WITH SIZABLE POPULATION SHIFTS INCREASES THE MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICTS AND COMPLIES WITH OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL PARAMETERS.

>> WHEN THE CENSUS COMES OUT EVERY 10 YEARS WE'RE REQUIRED AT THAT POINT TO DO REDISTRICT BECAUSE OF POPULATION SHIFTS.

WE DID THIS MAP AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS HOLD COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER.

SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THIS NAP THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE PRINT THAT IS DIVIDED IN PREVIOUS MAPS YOU'VE SEEN UP TO 153 PRECINCTS DIVIDED SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THOSE DISTRICTS ARE AS COMPACT AS POSSIBLE AND HELD TOGETHER.

ALSO, IN THOSE MAPS YOU WILL SEE WE HOPKINS, BARREN AND MADE THEM SINGLE COUNTY.

THEY HAVE GOTTEN DOWN TO THAT SIGN OR GAINED POPULATION TO GET TO THAT SIZE TO BE A SINGLE DISTRICT.

WE LEFT THOSE AS SINGLE DISTRICTS.

THERE ARE 4 MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICTS IN OUR MAP THAT IS HOUSE DISSTWRICT 42, 43 AND 44 AND THERE'S DEVELOPMENT OF TWO DISTRICTS WITHIN INCREASED MINORITY INFLUENCE IN DISTRICTS 30 AND 77.

EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT WE HAVE IS ENTIRELY CONTIGUOUS AND AS I SAID AS COMPACT AS POSSIBLE GIVEN THE VARIABILITY OF POPULATION ACROSS THE STATE.

WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IS AS YOU'VE SEEN IN THE MAPS HOUSE DISTRICT 1 GOES TEMPERATURE TENNESSEE BORDER UP TO LOUISVILLE.

8 GOES AROUND CHRISTIAN COUNTY LINE AND THEN THERE'S A DISTRICT UP IN NORTHERN KBS THAT TAKES IN PART OF COULD HAVE INC.

TON ALONG THE OHIO RIVER AND TAKES IN ANOTHER VOTING BLOCK THERE.

THE LOSERS I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY IN THIS WHEN DOING THIS PROCESS IS VERY COMPLICATED.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE ENTIRE STATE INTO CONSIDERATION.

CAN'T DO IT IT ONE PRECINCT, ONE DISTRICT 1 COUNTY IT WHAT TO BE THE ENTOO SAY BECAUSE OF THE RIPPLE EFFECT WE HEARD ABOUT IN THE MEDIA.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE POPULATION THRES A WESTERN KENTUCKY AND EASTERN KENTUCKY YOU GET BACKED UP AGAINST OTHER STATES AND THE RIVER AREAS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

WHEN WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT, IT'S HEART TO FIND ANY ADDITIONAL SPACE SO WHAT HAPPENED IS THERE ARE TWO INCUMBENT REPUBLICANS IN THE WEST THAT WILL BE RUNNING AGAINST EACH OTHER AND 2 IN THE EAST THAT WILL BE RUNS AGAINST EACH OTHER ADD TWO SETS OF DEMOCRATS IN THE LOUISVILLE AREA JRVETION WE'LL GET TO THAT IN MA MINUTE.

NO LAWMAKERS ARE DRAWN OUT TO ANOTHER PART OF THE STATE LIKE WE'VE SEEN CREATIVELY DONE.

>> NO.

>> IN THE PAST.

I WANT TO GET THIS SIDE PERSPECTIVE.

I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU REPRESENT HIF HAT ON OF COURSE HAPPY -- THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE MAPS AND WAS THE MINORITY PARTY INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS AND GIVEN THEIR INPUT?

>> WE WERE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THE JEFFERSON COUNTY AREA, WHICH WE DID.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND WHAT WE ENDED UP SEEING ON THURSDAY.

THERE ARE NUMEROUS PROBLEMS WITH THE MAP.

THERE'S EXCESSIVE SPLITS THAT WERE UNNECESSARY.

FAYETTE COUNTY INCREASED IN POPULATION BUT LOST A REP.

THEY USED TO HAVE 10 NOW THEY HAVE 9.

THE LAUREN COUNTY SPLIT 6 TIMES.

WHERE I LIVE IN EASTERN KENTUCKY, THEY'RE NO YOU KOAB I TRY TO DRAW ME AN EASY DISTRICT.

I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE WAY THEY END UP BUT THE PROCESS REALLY IS THE MAIN PROBLEM HERE.

YOU WERE ASKING EARLIER WHO IS THE ON THE LOSING END, WELL IT'S THE VOTERS AND ANYTHING QUUN CONSIDERING RUNNING FOR OFFICE THE WAY THIS IS RUSHED THROUGH.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO IT EVERY 10 YEARS BY THE CONSTITUTION.

WE LAST DID IT IN 2013.

WE HAVE ONLY RUN ON THESE MAPS FOR 8 YEARS.

IT'S ONLY BEEN FOUR CYCLES.

WE NEED TO DO DO IT IN TWROO BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE DONE IN THE FIRST WEEK AND WE DON'T HAVE 0 TO MOVE THAT FILING DEADLINE.

WE ARE FILING UNDER OLD DISTRICTS MOST OF US HAVE ALREADY FILED.

SOME OF OUR WITNESSES WHO FILED THEIR FORMS DON'T MATCH.

THEY'RE NOT IN IN OUR DISTRICT ANYTHING MOVER REDO THAT AND REDO THE FILING FEES.

IF WE'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT CANDIDATES WE DONTS KNOW WHAT DISTRICT THEY'RE GOING TO BE.

>> SHOULDN'T THAT MOVE THE CASE TO MOVE THE FILING DEADLINE TO THE END OF MONTH.

>> RUN ON THE CURRENT DISTRICTS.

>> CAN YOU 0 DO IN A.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

>> WE DID IT IN 2012.

ABSOLUTELY THERE IS.

>> THERE IS NOT A SENTIMENT FROM THE MAJORITY PARTY MEMBERSHIP TO GO THAT ROUTE.

I HAVE KNOW THIS IS NOT PART OF THE HOUSE DISCUSSION BUT OVERALL.

>> RUNNING IN THE CURRENT DISTRICTS WOULD BE KAL AM TUS BECAUSE THEY ARE WAIT OUT OF DEVIATION AND DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE 14th AMENDMENT ONE PERSON ONE VOTE.

YOU HAVE DISTRICTS LIKE MINE AND SENATOR SHE CAN EL BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION SHIFTS.

>> BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION SHIFTS.

>> YOU HAVE DISTRICTS NOTICE EAST AND WE CANS THAT LOSS OP LAIPTION.

WE HAVE GAINED POPULATION.

AND SOME OF THESE DISTRICTS ARE WAY OUT OF DEVIATION.

WE'VE GOT SELF THAT HAVE TO SHRINK IN SIZE, SEVERAL THAT HAVE TO EXPAND.

THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO DO THAT.

THIS IS A PROCESS THAT'S REQUIRED AFTER THE CENSUS AND WE HAVE THE FRESH CENSUS NUMBERS.

WE ARE RUNNING BEHIND BECAUSE THE CENSUS COUNT THE DOOR-TO-DOOR CENSUS COUNT WAS DELAYED DUE TO COVID-19 SO WE DIDN'T GET THE NUMBERS UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

WE HAVE 4.5 MILLION PEOPLE IN KENTUCKY.

YOU DIVIDE BY 100 TO GET YOUR HOUSE DISTRICT, YOU DIVIDE BY 38 TO GET YOUR SENATE DISTRICT.

PLUS OR MINUS 5% ACCORDING TO CASE LAW.

SO A SENATE DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE AROUND 118,570 PEOPLE TO BE EXACT WE CAN GO DWOWN TO 112,000 OR UP TO 124-5.

>> KENTUCKY FILE MAPS WERE FILED TODAY AND WILL BE HEARD IN COMMITTEE.

DEALT WITH OTHER ISSUES WITH LIVELY COMMENTARY WHEN THIS COMES TO SCHOOL CHOICE, EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND MORE.

YOU CAN STREAM THAT PROGRAM ON DEMAND AT KET.O OR GRKTS.

WITH HOPE TO SEE YOU TOMORROW NIGHT FIRST AT 7:00 P.M. EASTERN TIME KET'S LIVE COVERAGE GOVERNOR'S STATE OF THE COMMONWEALTH ADDRESS AND THEN AGAIN AT 11:00 P.M. EASTERN TIME FOR LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.

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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT FOR LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.

BE SAFE AND I WILL SEE YOU REAL SOON.