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It's Thursday.
Favorite favorite day of the week on the show?
Why?
Because we get to talk about the weekend.
We only have one more day of work left.
It's all very exciting.
Okay.
All right.
Way to sell it.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
But it's, you know, there's so many different things that are going on.
And so I think that's what I enjoy is like the, the diversity of the events that we've had.
Is that there's, you know, there's food based events, drink based events.
There's arts and culture, sporting events.
You know, just a all kinds of different opportunities and things you want to do.
Get out and enjoy, the community and explore northwest Ohio.
And, and I think it's if you're not sure what to do this weekend, the top five is a good place to start, right?
This is a you kind of curated list from our friends at toledo.com, who said, hey, if you if you got to go out and do something, it's a nice mix of things this weekend's going to be.
We're a lot of talking about Valentine's Day.
The couple Valentine's themes, events, themed events.
So it should be fun.
Am I I need some help here?
What should I get my wife for Valentine's Day?
I'm assuming I should get her something.
Earplugs.
You should all leave the house and let her be by herself for the day.
That's the I so I like I, I struggle with that as the like as the gift.
Right.
Because it's like.
You love us so much, you want us to go away.
I know that that is true.
I know that is absolutely true.
Sure.
But I struggle with the reality of that.
That, like what she wants more than anything else is time away from us.
Well, I think it's good, but it's like reality.
Yeah, that's what she texted me.
So I don't oh my goodness.
All right.
That's fair to the kids.
Do a bunch of stuff at school for Valentine's Day.
They do.
So I I've said this before, I think we've talked this on the podcast like, my daughter is incredible.
And she is, maybe the most responsible person in the in the family.
I am, if not last second to last, potentially including the dogs in that list.
Sure.
And so, like, she gets the, gets her brothers together, and they work on different things and paint pictures, and it's just, it's she's going to be a party planner like her mom.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, she's she's she's thoughtful in that, in that way that, you know, I'm just not aware that way.
So I appreciate you guys telling me that what I, what I need to do from my work is leave.
Yeah, yeah.
Nailed it.
Exciting program today.
Yes.
It's going to be another, show that flies by.
We've got three incredible guests.
We're talking with Jessica from Handmade Toledo.
As we'll go through our top five events with her and talk about an upcoming event at Handmade Toledo.
Handmade is one of my favorite, downtown attraction.
It's it's so cool.
I've always admired this person from afar, Jessica.
From afar.
I've never had the chance to talk to her in depth.
So I'm so excited, to be able to get to talk to her about why she started Handmade Toledo and what she she's a maker herself, so that's going to be a good time.
I'm realizing that this show is really Gretchen's strategy to make friends know that, like, lock him into the chair.
And I don't see what's wrong with that.
Go away for 15 minutes.
Yeah.
We're also gonna be talking with, Floyd Anderson.
I won't be, Okay.
So Matt is going to be talking to Trekkie monster only, Floyd Anderson, of course, in Avenue Q, yes.
Playing at the Collingwood, Collingwood Arts Center.
And I saw this weekend and knew immediately, instantaneously that we had to have Trekkie Monster on the show, so excited that he's getting a real stage presence.
Yeah.
So no disrespect to Floyd, but we do not want to talk to him.
I'm not even acknowledging that person exists.
And then, of course, we'll wrap up the process.
We have the puppet.
I don't even care for you to run the show real.
I also have Matt Sussman, with BG curling, talking about the Olympics and talking about, the cool stuff they're doing, getting people into the sport of curling.
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This where we come back, we're joined by Jessica from Handmade Toledo.
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Welcome back into the 419.
We're taking a look at our toledo.com community calendar driven by Tada and joined now by Jessica from Handmade Toledo.
Hello.
Hello.
Thank you for coming in.
Oh yeah.
Thank you for having me.
If someone has been living under a rock and has no idea what Handmade Toledo is, you import all of your goods from overseas right now.
You know what is handmade?
Toledo.
How many?
Toledo is a creative, multi-purpose space.
So, we're in about a 10,000 square foot building.
And within that, we have a maker shop where we carry the work of around 300 local and regional artists.
We have, studios, we have a gallery.
We have a workshop, where we have lots of art craft classes.
And then we have an event space too, where we do community events, like some of our monthly, like DIY After Dark, and we do an open mic, and we also rent it out for private events like birthdays and weddings and graduation party.
So you're located down, on Adam Street.
Can you talk a little bit about the evolution?
You're a maker yourself.
How you went from doing that yourself and your own sort of small business to evolving into having the space for all these other people?
Yeah.
So I'm a maker, and I used to do a lot of, like, craft shows and craft shows, and I would travel around, like, the Midwest, doing these shows.
And when I would travel around, I would meet other makers from Toledo.
Like, how do we not know, like this?
Like, I feel like I was pretty connected in the arts community in Toledo.
You know, I started a roller derby league, so I learned a lot of people that that way.
And I was like, you know what?
Toledo should have a show like this.
Yeah, we should have, like, there's so many art fairs, there's so many art shows.
There needs to be some sort of craft.
How long have you been on?
And, we've been there since 2012.
How about that?
Yeah, yeah, for you.
That doesn't have my accent.
So we're celebrating 14 years of maker's Mark.
Can you believe that?
That's amazing.
That is amazing.
Yeah, like every year, but yeah.
Yeah.
Thereof.
Yeah, but but they're nice to you.
Yeah.
Kind of.
I mean, it's a big building to take care of.
Yes.
How did this get into your DNA?
Were your parents makers?
Craftsmen and craftspeople?
Tell me about that.
Yeah.
My dad is a machinist, welder, fabricator, and he's always had his own business.
And, you know, I went into the arts.
I was an art teacher for about a decade before opening the shop.
Where?
All over the place.
I worked at Sophia Quintero.
I worked at TSA.
I worked for the Arts Commission many times through many different programs.
Like Young Artists at Work program.
So the like carrying over the, the education and the learning aspect to have like workshops.
Handmade was a big thing for me because I'm like, you know, yeah, I think it's very fun.
Our teacher, what is the thing that you're making now?
What are you most focused on?
Making?
Well, I'd say that since.
That's right, it's been like the past couple of weeks.
Yeah, the last two years.
I did a double, decorate.
Now, I, I feel like I do a lot of the events, and I, just decorate the space and, curate, like, an experience, you know?
So I do a lot of that.
I so I have a sewing studio there, handmade.
And I've been doing, like, small things, like crocheting, making some jewelry, you know, is you responsible for the displays in the window there?
On Adam Street?
In handmade.
Yes.
Yes.
We all we were really small staff.
There's just three of us.
Sure.
They do.
All of the adults.
So it's kind of a combination of all three of us.
Yeah.
Setting things up, just depending.
We all just kind of like tap in and.
Right.
You know, what was the moment in this business when you were like, yep, this is the right thing to be doing.
Right?
when you start down that road and you go get yourself a 10,000 square foot building.
Yeah.
You went from a ten by ten tent at a travel, right?
You know, my spare bedroom and my apartment to, like.
All right, now I have 10,000ft.
What what was the kind of the first moment in this journey when you were like, oh, yeah.
This is this is something, I think what I realized, I was also the janitor of the church, and I can relate to that 1,000%.
Yeah, yeah.
You're like, okay, I know that people just started showing up and, like, kept coming and, like, kept contacting us, like, wanting to get their art in the shop or wanting to teach a workshop with us or like the first time someone contacted us about, like, wanting to have their wedding there, like, what's that?
That's crazy.
Yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
I love the party and I love, love, you know?
So, what an honor.
I'm curious, as you, all of your travels, and we have the best, maker's Mark, period.
But other, other places you happened upon either overseas or in the United States that were like, gems or just you fell into that were magical.
Like, as far as craft shows go, Oh, yeah.
So, Henry Detroit runs a show called Detroit Urban Craft Fair, and that's been going on for 20 years.
I did that a whole lot, and I feel like the maker community there, it's just so accessible, so accepting, so kind.
Like, I made so many friends, learned a lot and and even, like, we share each other's shows, we go to each other shows like, we will, recommend artists and everything.
So it's a real community.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that that the one at the Masonic?
Yes.
When is it?
When is Detroit urban growth here?
It's usually the first weekend in December.
Well, I think it's, Saturday, Sunday.
And it's in the same, it's on the mezzanine level.
So it's where I've played roller derby before, so I'm like, oh my, why?
Why is it important?
Why are these the things that, your community are making and selling important for people to keep doing?
Is it why did they tell you why it's important to them?
Why do you think it's important that these handcrafted, items are available for people to purchase?
I think that it's a way of making art accessible to people, you know?
And kind of I said craft show, and I said art fair, you know, kind of bridging the gap between the two where some people are like craft fair.
You know, it has like a different connotation than when you say art fair, but really it's all art, right?
Like we have potters, their craft is pottery, like we have soap makers, their craft is, you know, making soap.
So just kind of having art is more than just 2D painting on walls, expensive, unattainable type type stuff.
Right.
So when you come to Hammad Toledo, shop in the shop, you can learn about the artists, you can know more about them, know where it's made.
Kind of like the history, the story behind it.
And when you come to something like maker's Mark, you're buying it directly from the maker.
So you get to, like, have that personal experience.
We're talking with Jessica from Handmade Toledo, taking a look at our toledo.com top five events.
Through that com community calendar driven by Tara, the top five events of which Handmade Toledo has one of them.
Yeah, but, Gretchen, let's dive in.
What what are the what are the top five?
Yeah.
Jessica, just join us in talking about these if you if you wish.
The first we've we've had the, guest on to talk about Sense and Sensibility at the Village Players.
It was last weekend and it's again, this weekend.
You have a favorite Sense and Sensibility movie addition.
Okay.
You don't have to if that's where she's been to the village before.
Okay.
Let's go.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't take Gretchen's judgment personally.
No judgment.
Yeah.
The second event is titled Your City Parks.
Love you.
It's a skate night at the auto park.
Outdoor skate rink.
It's free.
You go online to register, to have a reservation, but it's free for family, kids.
Date night again.
Second best skating experience in the region.
What's the first easy for you to say, man?
Yeah, this is ice skating roller.
Yes, I yeah, I mean, you can not going to be a roller derby on the ice.
It's you can turn anything on roller derby.
Do not recommend anything because I do still have all of my paths to go out there I love it.
I feel like Costco is the thing that's most ready to become a roller derby.
Yeah, just start shoving people around and through the Golden Corral is the best place for you.
That's.
Where have you hung up the roller derby pads forever?
Yes.
So yeah, it's a pretty demanding, you know, schedule with traveling for bouts and several days a week.
Yeah, like a match, a game.
It's called about I love it.
Yeah.
I can't roller skate or I could never do that, but I love it.
The third event, speaking of beating people up on roller skates is the elixir of love.
Yes, that's called a segue.
Thank you.
Yeah.
That's been put on by the Toledo Opera.
It's Friday the 13th and Sunday the 15th at the Valentine Theater.
They've had a whole host of events in the community, some cocktail tasting events and other things leading up to this event.
So that should be a fun event for Valentine's Day.
We have Rachel Cameron from the opera talking about that, talking about that program.
She is in that show as well.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, that'll that'll be great.
That'd be great.
Now, probably the best event, not just because Jessica sitting here, but the fourth event in the toledo.com powered by Tada list is always the best.
It is the top five.
It's like a hidden right there.
In no particular order is just the word is, is love Mart, which is happening at Handmade Toledo this weekend, Saturday, February 14th from 12 to 6.
What can people expect when they come down to that event?
So Love Mart, it's kind of like a Valentine's Day themed maker's Mark mini style, right?
So we'll have about 40 vendors set up.
We'll have food trucks, we'll have, fire Rhino coffee will be there.
We'll have the city soda.
Dirty sodas will have, a few bakeries.
We'll have interactive booths from some of the makers.
We'll have a DIY Valentine's Day fun station and lots of little, like, creative stations.
And it's from 12 to 6, and it's free.
And, do you agree with me that Valentine's Day decorations are the best decorations of the entire year?
Yeah, better than Christmas.
Well, yeah.
Okay, I agree, because a pink and red one to me, I was like, questioning me.
I was like, is it Halloween or Valentine's?
Sure.
Okay.
No, for me, but I think I do.
I am a fan of okay, how do you put this down like, w is making still, a respite for you or do you have to go somewhere on in a beach chair?
I mean, you oversee a 10,000 square foot child that is your own, and that has things feel need to be repaired all the time.
And you are managing makers.
You're a maker.
Are you still finding a peaceful place to crochet or make your next thing, or do you need to get away?
Period.
What does downtime look like for you?
Oh no, I, I love a mobile craft, you know?
Yeah.
Crocheting.
It helps you not look at your phone constantly.
You know, your hands are busy.
And you're like, if you have something at the end of it, right.
So it's kind of like a nice, relaxing thing.
So, yeah, I have crocheted at the beach.
Yeah, I love it.
Our final event on the list is called breaking the Winter Blues.
Now, John, I guess when he was on the show, I think, last week talked about this event that was coming It's Sunday, February 15th.
It's a, it's an, an inaugural event, called breaking the Winter Blues.
It's on the second floor of Hannon's block, which, if you haven't visited the Hanna Block.
Hannon's block, it's a restaurant on Monroe Street in downtown Toledo.
Locally owned, locally owned.
She's very good.
She's she's great.
Smashburger.
And and, it's just an all around great restaurant for cocktails and food.
But on their second floor, they're having an entire day of music heavy blues kind of music.
You get food, you get some drinks, you go upstairs.
You can hang out all day.
That's what I do most days.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of heavy drinking and I just go upstairs.
That's.
It's for my Valentine's Day.
That is on Sunday, February 15th.
So people can check that out.
Yeah, I think I saw Shane by a ski.
One of the musicians is going to be playing.
Going to be playing there.
So.
Yeah, local musician should be fun.
All of this information you can find@toledo.
And now I think it's time for.
And each one of these is places you can get to.
Yes.
Courtesy of our friends at Tada.
You can check out their routes to find the easiest way to get to and from each of these locations.
And, of course, skip the parking when you're, you know, fighting the crowds for the bout.
That will be, love.
Good one.
All right, rapid fire, 419 quiz.
Okay.
Ready?
For rapid fire questions.
Here we go.
If you were made a world leader, what policy would you introduce?
Oh, Free crafts.
No.
Billionaires?
No.
Okay, I love it, I like it.
What's the weirdest thing you've ever eaten?
Oh, that's hard.
That is hard.
I don't know.
Have you had one of those orange for peanuts?
The Halloween candy?
Yeah.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, that's the circus.
Circus?
Yeah, yeah.
If you could fly, where would you fly to first?
Like in an airplane or, like, great as, like fly.
You know, I think it means fly.
Fly like.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Right now, somewhere warm.
Yeah.
That's a great question.
Yeah.
And I love so much how I randomly draw a card and they fly every time.
What was the last craft you made?
I've been making, jewelry.
Nice.
I've done a lot of, like, little cute charm earrings and bracelet like, friendship bracelets.
For Walmart.
Let's see.
Oh, good.
We're gonna have to check that out.
Okay.
What is your number one most favorite or what you would consider to be the best thing about Toledo?
The community and how accessible it is.
You know, like, we have a great arts community.
Our museum is awesome.
Our zoo is awesome.
The low cost of living is pretty awesome.
You know, gives you the opportunity to go to other places.
All right.
I heard you say parks.
Great for also parks.
Yes, yes, or nine words that describe a city or region.
You said a bunch of them.
So we can also repeat if you need to.
So let's do it.
Ready for the night at nine words.
Community.
Yes, community.
Good.
Accessibility.
Accessibility.
Yes.
Low cost of living.
That is three.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
The parks.
Thank you.
Parks.
Really great.
Yeah.
We'll give you two for that.
I really love that you have the roller skating at the ribbon.
Yes.
All right.
Let's do.
You got one left.
Did you turn Metro parks into two?
Which did.
Yeah.
We have a lot of really great, restaurants.
Restaurants.
And that is dine.
Okay.
Good job.
Thank you so much, Jessica.
Thank you.
If people want more information on Handmade Toledo and Love Mart, where can they find it?
Handmade toledo.com is our website.
Our handle is at Handmade Toledo and all the things, all the information should be th The best.
Jessica, thank you so much.
Of course, you want more information on the toledo.com community calendar driven by Tata in the top five events.
You can check them out at toledo.com appropriately.
You.
These are adorable.
These are so cute.
And I love them.
The invitations for Love Mart are, a little Valentine's.
Can I just give this to my wife?
Will that work?
Hell, yeah.
Hell, yeah.
All right, I love it.
All right, when we come back, we are joined by Z. Trekkie monster from Avenue Q, and allegedly, Floyd Anderson might come along, too.
We'll find out.
We'll be right back on the 419.
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Gretchen, you went to go see, I did.
Avenue Q yes, at the Collingwood Arts Center and I. And you brought a man home?
Yeah.
I, I want to say I want to I want to address the elephant in the room, but it is not an elephant.
No, it is a monster.
So I knew when we sitting in the show that I went to, with John, I kissed at the recommendation of John.
I kissed at the at the Collingwood Art center.
I knew as I was watching the show that there was no finer guests that we could have on the show this week than Trekkie monster.
Trekkie.
Welcome.
Hello.
How are you, Gretchen?
Thanks for getting up early and doing this for me was already up.
It's okay.
Yeah.
Monsters don't sleep that much.
So, you live on Avenue Q, is that.
Is that right?
I do, I live on Avenue Q above Kidderminster, and then I live next door to Brian and Christmas Eve.
So yeah, we have a great time up there now.
Is that rent controlled or how are you able to, you know, stability.
Stability.
Yeah.
I'm grandfathered in.
Okay.
Right.
Yeah.
But yeah.
Tell me about some of your friends on Avenue Q. Who else?
So we have Rod and Nicki.
They have a secret we can sell just yet.
And we have Brian and Christmas Eve.
They're, engaged couple.
And then I have my downstairs neighbor, kid monster.
And then we have a new guy.
His name is Princeton.
And Princeton moves into Avenue Q, and hilarity ensues.
Yes, that's just hard for to the Avenue Q, he had, like, the options.
You know, when me was looking for Avenue Q, I was trying to go to an avenue like Z because it's way onto my budget.
But yes.
Okay.
And there's a little bit of controversy, I guess, or some conflict between the monsters on Avenue Q and the humans on Avenue Q. How do you feel about that?
Well, I think that everyone should accept love, but you should love your monster a little bit more because they're going through trying times.
I don't like today's world without talking about today's world.
I just realized I understood.
If you're really listening to this on the radio, yes, we should mention, that this is also a radio show.
Tricky.
So we're going to describe you.
Why don't we let Trekkie tell us when you look in the mirror?
Trekkie.
What do you see?
I see beauty, beautiful, beyond sea like creature with flowy hair and menacing eyes.
I see the same thing.
Thank you much.
Yeah.
No, I mean, when I look at me.
Okay, okay.
Fair, fair.
No, I am, I would say that I'm a. Oh, if you could describe me.
I am a lint ball on the floor waiting to be swept up by us with her.
Yeah.
Trekkie.
Can you sponsors, can you introduce us to your friend, Floyd Anderson?
So the guy providing my voice is Floyd.
He's he's right here.
It's weird talking to him, but it's okay.
So I e hi.
I'm Floyd.
Hi, Floyd.
How are you?
Yeah, I am the voice of Trekkie Monster Avenue.
Q welcome to the show.
This is your first musical production.
Yeah.
So this is my first big musical production.
I would say a main character, even though there's a cast of 12 of us, like, I think we all equally fit the bill of what we do on stage.
Oh, great.
Floyd, how on earth did this come to life?
Randomly one night at a bar with friends.
That's where it always starts.
Literally.
And that's how my family started.
One too many.
And I was like, I'm an audition for a musical.
And they were like, which one?
They said, the one with puppets.
And I didn't know much about it.
Like, I knew like I graduated high school 2001.
So like, it was like one of the big musicals.
Yeah.
Fresh out of high school.
I think 2002, 2003 is when the original cast came out and I was like, I want to play Trekkie Monster.
If you know anything about the show, he has a kind of addiction.
You have to come show, come see the show.
And I was like, you know what?
I could identify with that person.
I was like, let's do it.
So it would be myself.
And for callbacks, there were 6 or 7 Trekkies know, and that's all I had, like the same vision.
But it was weird to hear everyone's interpretation of the voice.
So at the audition, do you do did you do your your voice?
Your Trekkie voice?
I did, yes.
They went.
That's what they wanted us to do.
They're like, give us your own spin on him, because all of the people in the show that do the puppet voices are incredible.
They sing in them for the entire time.
And certainly when they're talking, they're they're the puppet voice.
Yeah.
I think we know how puppets work.
And I have one of the longest songs, so, yeah, it's hard to keep it up, but like, we do our best and I think we we this is our final weekend coming up at the Commonwealth Arts Center, and I feel all of us are we're you can see you've seen it.
Yes.
I think you can just we're all enjoying ourselves.
It's it's it's a lot of fun.
How long did it take for you to, like, really connect with the the puppet?
So, I mean, I mean, not too long ago, like, it's just it's a fun character.
I feel like this character is the only prov driven character, and he's the only character in the show that breaks the fourth wall.
So he communicates with the audience and like, he's kind of like the moral compass.
Like if something weird is happening, he'll pop up and look at me and be like, it's fine.
Can you tell us a little bit about Stone productions?
Again?
We mentioned that this is being performed at the Collingwood Arts Center, which is a unique theater space in and of itself.
But what is Stone productions?
How did that come about in Toledo?
So, Stone productions is the brainchild of James Moore, who is, drag artist known as Amber Stone.
So that's where the Stone productions came from.
This is our 10th year that I know.
So that's it's insane.
And they're a great person.
So I believe they they serve like they're the head of the board.
They direct shows.
They're, the creative director of this show.
So they just have their hand in everything.
And I believe their very first show, James is watching them, their hand and everything.
Oh, I see what you did there.
Yeah.
Oh, Chucky, don't acknowledge that.
Just keep talking.
No, the, I believe their first one was right.
Okay.
And they did it in a local bar.
Legends or Caesar's?
At the time, I can't remember the name.
And it kind of was just in high demand for, community theater that was LGBTQ plus driven.
Okay.
And, although most of the cast is LGBTQ, plus, anyone is welcome to audition and performs.
I think that is that's what keeps pushing that forward.
Who who is the audience for Avenue Q?
So, not kids.
You can bring your kids, but what Gretchen like to piggyback off of Gretchen because I had, someone else ask me this just on the street.
It's highly viewer discretion advised.
Parental guidance.
So.
But like I said, it's definitely 18 plus.
Okay, friendly.
But if you want to try to bring your kids, we won't turn them away.
Good luck with that kind of behind.
But however behind that, if you've seen the stage, we are behind the curtains like we do.
Look out the window.
Yeah.
Opening night.
There were a few kids there, and I think every cast member was like, oh boy, so you can bring them.
Can't save them all.
Definitely 18 plus.
Yes.
Recommend.
Yeah.
No.
Trekkie.
Have you, heard the comparisons between Avenue Q and Sesame Street?
Yeah.
So, so do you know that the writers of Avenue Q used to be writers on Sesame Street?
I did not know before they did the merger with the Big Mouth.
No.
Are you friends with any of the folks that live on Sesame Street?
People like to say that Cookie Monster and I are long distance cousins.
Okay, I can see the resemblance.
Yes, he likes cookies, I like meatloaf.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
Those are kissin cousins, for sure.
I'm the meatloaf monster.
Tricky you sometimes.
Or does Floyd prefer for you to talk to people that he doesn't want to talk to you?
Are you?
In addition, are you helpful to Floyd in his everyday life?
Floyd is scared out of his mind right now, so we're great.
Yeah, yeah.
Good separation in there, right, Floyd?
Yeah, sure.
Any of Floyd's personal information, can you give us Floyd's Social Security number and his mother's name?
Yes.
One, two.
Three.
No, no, it's you and you.
I attended the show last weekend with a couple of improv friends who know you from Glass City Improv.
Can you talk about your experience there and what have you done shows there?
Yes, I've done Glass City Improv for five years.
It was I was a pandemic baby with that.
So I was just trying to find something we could.
We couldn't socialize, but like certain stuff you could do.
And I was like, for some reason, my favorite show at the time and now I know was whose Line Is it anyway?
Yes.
And if you do improv, it's nothing like that.
Yeah, it is nothing.
But, I looked at a whole bunch of stuff in the hope and stuff, and Detroit was open and I was just like, I guess I could travel.
But for some reason, I clicked on Glass City Improv just by mistake and went down the rabbit hole.
And I did my first class.
I think when they open, they allowed, like public classes on 2001, no, no, 2021, 2022.
And then I just done it.
Ever since, I've done every level, I've done every workshop.
And then cool.
I took a break because I was in Avenue Q and I am going back in March.
What, what is your day job?
So I am a commercial producer at a local news station or, television station.
So I'm an avid nerd, so, yeah.
Hear that?
My, all the technology that you're like, oh, is my son getting into?
Yeah, I carry camera and I this is exactly what she envisioned.
This is what she wanted.
This is what she.
What Jamie Floyd was like.
He's going to be a present.
Wrong.
I, I have two sort of weird technical questions about Avenue Q that we were all talking about after, which is when you are doing the production to the to the production folks are the owners of Avenue Q provide the puppets or did someone make all of these for the production?
So, oddly enough, I randomly know this.
I believe there are puppet makers for the show and this company is located, I believe in Akron Canton area, so we just kind of, I believe the capital of the world.
I wrote your words, Floyd.
I'm here is I mean, I've only been in Akron once.
Like, sure.
Like this is if I go if I had an idea for a puppet, I will I will burn that place from Akron, I apologize.
Yeah.
Have you ever been.
apologize to those losers you piqued.
You think this is your greatest output?
Yeah.
So I believe there there's different pockets of Avenue Q puppet makers, and we got lucky within Ohio in the region that we went with them in Akron.
And the second question is, you know, the whole performance, the people that are portraying the puppets have their hand in their puppet.
Yes.
And they're dancing and singing, but they're held up.
So what?
How tiring is that?
How did you how did you learn?
I mean, it's so easy when you're performing just to drop your hand or to forget that you.
You know, in theater, I am what they call a princess role.
So I come on and do my punch line go off.
That's the role I play on this.
Yeah, exactly.
High fives the princess.
Good job princess.
Thank you.
Tricky.
So I believe that the stamina of the people who are on stage because like, the people who play Dylan and, Sammy who play Kate and Prince in there on stage, I would you for it, like, literally 95% of the time.
And as all of us go kind of on and off and we can take our hand out like, oh yeah, but I feel like, you just kind of get used to it afterwards.
A lot of people do have the hand grips on a little DVD, behind the scenes footage, and a lot of people kind of, once you're off stage, just know that they're back there doing like, yeah, their hand stretched.
Yeah.
So interesting.
Tricky.
Yes.
Can we throw at you?
Let's do it.
Gretchen's wacky quiz.
All right, let's do the same as wacky right now.
All right, so I'm gonna give you fits, right?
Does not seem as wacky.
How many of you for rapid fire questions.
Trekkie Gretchen is going to ask you for your favorite thing in Toledo.
And then this is going to be the tough one, because I know you haven't been here that long, Trekkie.
But we need nine words to describe Toledo.
All right, so here we go.
Question number one.
Go.
Hey, Trekkie, how good are you at saving money?
Not so much.
I am a reflection of Floyd.
But tell me what?
What is your, guilty pleasure?
Trekkie?
You.
Oh, my guilty pleasure.
Besides meatloaf.
Yeah.
Besides, meatloaf is making, me love anime.
Yeah, yeah.
Yes, we love it.
I usually say cool.
What?
When someone says an answer, but I would not know what is.
What is your biggest pet peeve?
Oh, cold hands, cold hands, cold toilet.
And people who don't wear their seat.
Oh no no no no me forgot me.
Hate people who don't use their blinker.
All right you have you you have your driver's license.
Turkey maybe.
Yeah.
What's the most exciting thing you have done on a dare?
Oh, boy.
Oh, remember, we have FCC rules here.
Most exciting thing is.
Ho ho ho ho ho ho.
On a dare.
I know me.
Tried meatloaf without catch up.
Oh, yeah.
The rule breaker.
Was that a miserable experience?
Oh, it was horrible.
Oh, this is the greatest moment of my life.
Yeah.
Yes.
Trekkie.
You describe yourself in one word.
Oh, boy.
Rich.
Lovable.
Yeah.
Agreed a great turkey.
What is your number one most favorite thing about the city of Toledo?
I would say metro parks, but that's a cop out.
I like the parks, but I will have to piggyback of what had made Toledo said, I love the community.
My favorite place in Toledo is the Art center.
Yeah, I go there and I just wander and look at statues and just wonder why.
Yeah, I love it.
All right.
The hardest part I need nine words.
Tricky to describe the region are your favorite parts about it?
Let's go.
You ready buddy?
Yes.
All right.
Starting from the top.
Number one.
Diverse, diverse.
Living.
Happy.
My man.
Artsy.
Artsy three.
Almost there.
Keep going.
Musical.
Musical.
Good.
Me always hungry.
So I have great food.
Music.
I'll give you two for that.
Okay.
And, last one.
Bring it home.
This is.
Bring it home.
Oh, sports.
Sports.
A favorite sport.
Trekkie.
What's your favorite?
Oh, meat.
Love.
Have you ever seen a violence?
A violent puppet show is going to shut down after today because this cannot get any better.
Trekkie.
What?
Many people want it to be shut down?
Jackie, what are you doing Monday through Friday?
And is it possible that you'd be willing to sit in between Matt and myself to do a daily show?
I would love to come back and co-host with you, if that's what you're asking.
Jackie, are you going to miss, Floyd after the show?
No.
I wouldn't really like this man's hand up to my party.
Yeah.
Speak for yourself.
Oh my goodness.
Oh, hey, Trekkie, where can people find information on Avenue Q and this weekend's show?
You definitely want to come see the Collingwood Arts Center and getting all your tickets at Eventbrite.
One of the slashes over the back avenue.
Q and we have shows Saturday and Sunday on Valentine's Day, Saturday is at eight.
Sunday it's at the we love it, man.
This is the oh, this just makes me hate my children even more.
This is good.
This has been the best.
This has been the best.
Nine minutes I'm going to buy myself a puppet.
Yeah.
You should.
Yeah.
Find me a woman.
Yep.
I'm tired of being with Floyd this weekend as well.
My Floyd's okay.
Yeah.
He's okay.
All right.
Thank you both.
Thank you both for being on.
Thanks for getting up there.
Welcome.
Yeah, yeah.
I can't.
All right.
Transition out of this cab.
You're the big star.
You've got your own camera.
We'll be right back.
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I think I am fully recovered, from the interview.
We'll see.
The monster ate.
No, only, the hardest job in all of television is to be the guy that follows Trekkie Monster.
And it gets to be you, my friend Matt Sussman.
We know you can handle so much.
Love a challenge.
All right, buddy, welcome to the program.
Let's just dive in.
Right.
So you are all in on curling.
So you and I went to high school together.
But everything I see, I don't think I've ever seen you post anything that isn't curling related.
So what?
What got you into the sport of curling?
So after high school, I went to Bgsu, where the curling club, lived at the ice arena.
I was 18, I was a freshman in college, and I had a class at 7:00 at night that I did not want to go to, and a friend of mine knocked on my dorm room door and said, hey, I saw they got curling classes down at the ice arena at 7:00 tonight.
Do you want to go?
And I said, sure.
So I went down, learned how to play, kind of liked it was kind of good at it.
I was never really good at a sport before.
I kind of got this and I've been playing it ever so.
Did you flunk that class?
No.
Oh, good.
C-Plus.
Okay, good.
Yes.
That's an eight to me.
Yes.
What was I mean, your first experience with curling.
I mean, had you seen it before or.
It was literally just a this is it's not class.
So I'm going.
I knew nothing about it other than it was a sport played on ice.
I had never been on.
I had never played a sport on ice.
I never played hockey or broom ball or anything like that.
Didn't you skate with beverages?
Yes.
Yes.
Of course.
Yeah.
So, I knew nothing about it.
It was just another sport I wanted to try.
I love sports, I like trying different ones.
I was, you know, I'm not fast.
I can't jump high.
Fortunately, you don't have to run and you don't have to jump in this game.
So I've.
I've taken to it and I just love everything about it.
Where does curling come from?
So it's an ice skates.
You got this weird broom thing you got, you know, the the get a ball involved or the weight, whatever the heck.
Yes.
I'm hoping you'll tell us, but where does the sport originate?
The sport was invented in Scotland on the frozen lakes or lochs, if you will, and all of the curling stones actually come from Scotland.
They're just solid granite stones and, and and so it started there and then it got very popular in Canada.
So basically you can't find a Canadian city or any, any town of at least a thousand has, you know, you know, grocery store and a, you know, post office and a church and a curling club.
That's where everyone goes to socially gather and hang out.
And so it's getting way more popular in the United States.
And you're just seeing clubs pop up and they're in there growing.
And, you know, with the Olympics, everything.
This is probably, preempts the Olympic conversation, which I'm certainly isn't having.
But who globally is the leader and curling, like who's the best team, where they come from.
They would probably be Canada.
Okay, I've had the most, but you're seeing a lot of countries in Europe as well as East Asia, Japan, South Korea, China are getting very good.
The United States is catching up there as well.
So it is a growing sport, but Canada has historically been the one.
It's been the best at it.
And I'm sort of back up real quick.
Like describe to me what it like the sport of curling and like how do you score, what is it like comparable to.
Yeah.
Bocce.
So think bocce and you've got a big target in the ice.
Looks like a bull's eye.
You're trying to get as many rocks to the center of that more than the other team.
So it's it's a it's a game of precision.
It's a, it's a target game.
There's some strategy involved.
But, you know, it's basically like all the sports, you're trying to score more points than the other team.
And is it is it how many people are on a team.
It's two.
There's there's there's versions.
There's a mixed doubles which is in the Olympics, which is two people teams.
And then the, the regular one is for how long is the Olympic course for the how do you describe.
Yep.
Well, at our club as well, it's the same regulation size.
I'd say it's about 130ft.
Oh, wow.
So it's it's very long, but you'd be surprised how, you know, easy.
You could, you know, get one down there.
So one person pushes that.
What you called a stone?
Yes.
A stone down the ice?
Yes.
And the other team person or two?
Team members are doing what you described as sweeping.
Yep.
So these brooms here, you are basically pushing down on the ice and trying to sort of melt or reduce friction, and that allows the stone to travel further.
So if you didn't throw it hard enough, then you'll hear a bunch of people yelling, and then they'll start to describe the surface area.
This.
Yeah, this is not what I expected.
The bottom of this broom.
Yeah.
So this is this is actually my son's broom.
He's 11 and he's taken up to it as well.
So it's a great, sport for young people.
But this is basically just a, you know, carbon fiber handle, and then you've just got, like, a pad, like a fabric here, and then this gets changed out as it wears down.
But, I mean, it looks like a Swiffer.
It does.
Yeah, it does.
And you're pushing down.
You're trying to apply pressure rather than like a Swiffer where you're trying to, like, clear, you know.
So this may be a really stupid question, but yeah, but play after play, if you're doing that with the sweeping and making the pathway for the stone.
Yes.
Then do you, do they have to reset the ice?
No.
Okay.
You're good question.
But you're not doing that much damage to the ice or you're doing like little microscopic scratches.
So after a game you do have to, you know, re prepare the ice.
But that's after the game.
This is what's really just plain ignorance.
But who is a more critical player in this?
The person who pushes the stone or the sweeper?
Or are they truly evil?
I would say it's a that.
There's actually a big debate about that right now.
This is the kind of questions we, That's right on crossfire.
We're not sure.
I think the person who throws it gets the most glory, and you can certainly screw it up by doing a bad throw.
And the sweepers are there to make that shot even more precise and even better.
So it's really a team effort.
You you can't make a shot without anyone on it.
So when you say the pushers are the dopes of the team, you're.
Well.
Yeah.
So the the person that pushes the least on the Olympics, you see them like practically in splits like.
Yes, yes, yes.
So that seems like it would be difficult.
It is, it is hard and it's a weird position.
It's like a lunge that you're getting into.
Most of ours do it as well.
But I also want to say that at our club, when we teach you how to play, we have an adaptive way where you can play.
So if you for any reason, you can't get down your hips, knees or bad or whatever, we have this and I wish I would have brought one, but it's about this size, doesn't have the broom on it, but it has a little handle on the bottom, and you can just sort of latch onto the curling stone because it's got a plastic handle and you can just sort of walk out like shuffleboard.
And we have many members who come out every week and play in league using the what we call the stick curling, okay.
And it's it's a way you can play the sport and it's a wheelchair sport.
So it's a Paralympic sport as well.
So and everyone can play on the same team.
Doesn't matter how you throw it.
And that's what I think is one of the most accessible and fun things about this.
So you don't have to be able to do the splits to play like I mean, not hard is that is that move.
We can do the because you have to balance.
Yeah pretty aggressively.
Yeah it is.
And and on these I have brought my shoes here I want to talk about the shoes because you are ice which I get old is slippery.
So this is just a rubber.
These are just regular shoes.
But underneath this little rubber cover, we've got this sort of plastic Teflon.
And that's the part that slides on the ice.
So it's not a skate.
You're just sliding on this.
This will this will glide really well.
And we have so this is just separate my shoes or this is this, these are special curling shoe curling shoes.
Yes.
Yep.
And we have a sort of step on part of of this Teflon slider.
Okay.
When you try it out, you can step on it and then you can step on.
So just to describe it for our radio audience, it looks like a just a regular pair of black athletic tennis shoes.
And then there's these discs hard plastic discs on the bottom.
Absolutely.
Yes.
So why is this this is a overwhelmingly popular, club and, rec and boogie.
Why is this such an easy transition into a social gathering?
It's a good question.
It's a great social game.
And I think just the fact that the sport is so silly.
I mean, you've got stones, you've got brooms, you've got ice.
What are you.
What are y'all doing here?
Yeah.
Because one of the traditions that happens is after after league, someone wins, someone loses.
We all shake hands, say good curling.
The tradition is that we.
And go inside into the warmth.
There's a bar.
So now I understand it.
The, And both teams sit at the same table, and they hang out for about 15 to 30 minutes.
The winning the first round is bought by the winning team.
Oh, that's a tradition.
That's a tradition.
Yeah.
Okay.
How about that.
So it's just it's a it's just so good for intergenerational men.
I know that you were here, to see our first two segments.
If you had to put Trekkie in one of the rules of curling, where would Trekkie flourish?
He's got a lot of fur, and I hope he's not shedding.
That's always a big problem with, with the ice.
We don't want to see a lot of stuff.
I'm bald in there or just got the hat on.
So am I, and that's why I've got this sun.
Sure.
So.
So the the curling.
You didn't answer the question.
Oh.
You didn't.
Yeah.
That's right.
Which which position is he.
Is he pushing or is he's leading?
Oh, I'd probably I'd like to see him sweep.
I just want to see that.
Yeah.
Sure.
And again, everyone does everything, so everyone rotates now in BG, you mentioned before that you started at the ice rink on campus, but the curling facility is now off of campus and it's, on route 25.
It's not very nice.
My favorite route.
Yeah, yeah, very nice facility there.
Where did you have a hand in developing that?
Is this part of your programing there?
Yeah.
So our club, kind of outgrew the ice arena, and we wanted our own space where we could do our own events in our own leagues.
And play on the weekends and kind of do what we wanted.
So we did some fundraising, and we ended up, buying that building on 25.
Used to be an Amish furniture store.
And so the Black Swamp Curling Center is where we play.
We also have, the Bgsu and the UT clubs.
We both have curling clubs and they both play there.
It's the only curling club in northwest Ohio, so we're all very proud of it.
Yes you should.
And it's it's just so fun to so many of the members put in all their time and money, to make a really cool place and that's, you know, and you offer beginning lessons and other league type play there, right?
Yes.
So with the Olympics happening, our season runs from October to April, and we and for the Olympics, we pause our leagues for two weeks.
And if anyone's interested in learning how to play, we have what are called learn to curls.
So BGG Curling club.com you sign up, you pick a time.
It's two hours.
It's $40.
You bring a pair of just indoor gym shoes and we provide the rest of the stones are there.
We've got the brooms.
We've got the if you want to wear helmet, you can wear a helmet if you're afraid of falling.
But we'll we'll provide all the instruction and we'll get you up and running and play a game.
A short game.
Is there an ambulance there in the parking lot?
We can get one quickly if necessary.
It's, It rarely happens, but, Matt, this is, really interesting to me for a number of reasons, but if nothing else, starting something that has been such a community ad is something that to be passed by.
So celebrating that.
But do you have a I don't know if, a, a favorite moment in this long, career, starting the club to having, I don't know, at risk kids participating.
You tell me, do you have a singular moment that there's, something that you want to share?
That's a highlight?
So, I got remarried last year, and I. I met my current wife at the curling club.
She had just started playing.
I. It was actually like a meet cute.
Like I needed someone to spare on my team.
Yeah.
And she just started.
She said, okay, I think I'll, Okay, fine.
I'll play.
And so she played and she threw the first rock and I was sweeping and I fell the first sweep, and she had no idea what was going on.
But, you know, we became friends and, and, you know, I think just meeting Lauren there is like, I mean, that's mentioned you can meet men there.
You should have led with that.
You can meet anyone you want there.
It's you can meet people of all ages.
Valentine's day theme.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
That's a lovely story.
Find love at the curling club.
Yeah.
The G. Yeah.
I've always found it to be cold anyway.
That's right.
Gretchen, you said you were going to go curling with.
Yes.
So why?
I have this group of, of female friends that we try to do, you know, sort of like Richmond does that surprise you?
And not at all type things.
And we've we've looked to take curling and several times we backed out for fear of we're all about in our 50s.
Yeah.
Of breaking a hip or, you know, right.
Basically dying doing it, but I might I think that maybe I'll get them to try it.
After talking to you today, it seems like we can.
Maybe there's a way to do it again with the stick curling.
If they're worried of falling, they don't have to use the the shoes or the sliders.
We have people in their 50s.
We have we have members all the way into their late 80s.
And I've seen people in their 90s play as well.
Okay, great.
Do you have to do it on the ice?
Yeah.
If you're.
And here's the thing.
If you don't want to play, just come on one.
No.
Yeah.
That's I think that's a great point.
Yeah.
Fun.
Is there a not like I know like you know there's inline skates right.
So there's you know roller blades if you want to play street hockey is for a street version of curling.
We do have a floor curling set.
So we also play crocodile, which is a tabletop game that's kind of got the same angles, as, as curling.
So there's a lot of options.
How much does the stone weigh?
Great question.
It is, a little over 40 pounds.
Wow.
And the great news is that you don't actually have to lift it.
You're just kind of pushing it.
And there's no reason to lift it, but, it's it's heavy.
What are you excited about?
For the Olympics.
I know the Olympics are on now.
I think kind of in the middle of it, but what are you looking forward to seeing?
A particular person or a team?
I was, I was doing this my day to it, but that's all the US.
Yeah.
So the men's and women's team, well, we'll start this week and I think they'll do.
Okay.
Canada.
And again, Canada, Switzerland, Sweden, Great Britain are all pretty good.
But I will say so the US men's team.
So I'm wearing their hat right now.
So their skiff or their captain is named Danny Casper, hence the ghost.
Yes.
And they're, they're I'll say they're a little dorky, but they're great, great energy.
You know, a lot of characters.
One of their players is a classically trained cellist.
Wow.
Another one knows how to juggle.
He's made some videos on, Yo-Yo tricks.
So they're all really, really fun people.
They'll put you on the spot.
Somebody who's going to.
Who's going to gold, who's going to silver and bronze.
Boy.
For men's or women's?
They're both women.
I'll say Canada, Switzerland's, Sweden.
Okay.
Man.
Qatar.
Yes.
Great.
I'll say Great Britain because they're Scottish and, probably Canada silver.
And boy, let's just say the United States.
If you don't.
Puerto Rican team.
Right.
Yeah.
Check it out on FanDuel.
That's Usman's picks.
If you people want more information on the BG Curling Club, where can they find it?
BG Curling club.com.
That's where we have all our learn to curls.
Check us out.
And we're on route 25.
So Matt hope to see you there.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
So interesting.
Thank you, thank you.
I love the passion you have for this.
Me too.
You know, knowing that you found love through it as well.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Graduations.
Thanks for coming on the program.
I appreciate you reaching out saying, hey, let's promote its Olympics.
Let's promote it.
So this was great, I love it.
All right.
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Thanks to our incredible guest Jessica from Handmade Toledo, Matt Sussman from the BG Curling Club, and Trekkie Monster from Avenue Q. This is the greatest moment.
Yeah, we derailed a bit, but I don't think any will hold us no accountable for that.
I pride myself on being able to kind of keep it together.
Right.
So like when I'm announcing a sporting event, sure.
I've got, you know, folks in my ear cracking jokes or trying to make me break, and I'm pretty good at not doing that.
Yeah.
And, just as we wrapped up, we're wrapping up the conversation with Trekkie Monster.
The reality hit you that you've been talking to this sock puppet dug into a puppet?
Yeah.
The whole time.
Yeah, yeah.
Unbelievable.
I actually we drove to obviously knowing the Trekkie was coming on as well.
I'm not talking, to Floyd the handler or the puppet, you know, but Floyd was equally charming.
Yes.
Yeah.
So a great guest with a slew of great guests.
Jess, came on first operates, I think, one of the real gems of our area.
I told her this before we started, I think.
Or maybe I made the show, I can't remember, but it has been the place where I found, like, the best gifts the people love the very most.
My girls like to go there and pick out stuff, for people.
So, kudos to her.
In 14 years, it doesn't happen by accident.
So.
Well, in the in the work that Matt, in the book brilliantly we're doing kind of, you know, breaking out and creating their own space, right.
Starting in somebody else's house and saying, you know, this is a big enough thing.
And also, I'm glad you mentioned that because it's about time we started taking stuff back from the Amish.
Yeah.
You're where is Gretchen?
They've gotten into.
That is my position.
They've had enough.
Yeah.
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