[theme music] ANNOUNCER: The Pennsylvania Game is made possible in part by-- ANNOUNCER: By a grant from the Pennsylvania Public Television Network.

The network receives funding from the commonwealth to provide public television for all Pennsylvanians.

ANNOUNCER: Now let's get the game started.

Here's the host of The Pennsylvania Game, Scott Bruce.

[cheers, applause] Love you.

Love you.

Yes, my audience!

Yes, my viewers at home.

Welcome to another exciting edition of The Pennsylvania Game.

I'm thrilled because I've got some great people on the panel, including one of my best friends.

Let's meet him right now.

From Langhorne, Pennsylvania, a friend and a colleague, the well-rounded comedian, Jeff Pirrami.

[cheers, applause] And correct me if I'm wrong, I think this may actually be a first.

The wife of Jeff Pirrami is our second guest.

Just to make things interesting, we've got a little family friendly competition going on.

From Langhorne, Pennsylvania, Jeff's better half, and a funny woman in her own right, let's hear it for Debbie Pirrami.

[cheers, applause] And Dick down on the M was worried that he had too many funny people around him, but he's going to be great.

He's a professor emeritus of biomechanics at Penn State.

He's also a member of the medical commission of the International Olympic committee, helping to improve human performance and reduce injuries through biomechanics.

Say hello to Dick Nelson.

[cheers, applause] We are going to have so much fun, it scares me.

Let's start it right now.

ANNOUNCER: A non-profit organization was formed in 1968 in Philadelphia as the world's first scientific Institute to study what?

A, body and breath odor, B, bionic artificial limbs, C, music therapy, or D, psychological trauma.

SCOTT BRUCE: I'm almost scared to see where this is going.

What did they study?

Body and breath odor, bionic artificial limbs, music therapy, or psychological trauma?

Jeff, we'll check with you first.

Do we pick now?

Yeah, pick, be picked.

Do I get it in?

Yes.

Tell me what you picked.

Here, I'd say what they should have picked.

SCOTT BRUCE: Yes.

Why these carrots are so small in the green room?

Look at this carrot.

SCOTT BRUCE: [laughs] All right.

I pick music therapy, I pick.

SCOTT BRUCE: Music therapy.

You went with C. That's lovely.

Go ahead and munch while we're playing.

He never gets enough to eat.

Deb, what do you think?

I picked A, body and breath odor.

SCOTT BRUCE: A, body and breath odor.

She's looking at me.

[laughter] SCOTT BRUCE: I'm not even going to go there.

I'm going to stay out of it.

Dick, what do you think?

I pick B, bionic artificial limbs.

SCOTT BRUCE: Bionic artificial limbs.

JEFF PIRRAMI: He's a doctor.

SCOTT BRUCE: We picked three out of the four.

He is the doctor.

He might know something.

Let's find out if he does.

I doubt it.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is A, body and breath odor.

A team of more than 50 scientists at the Monell Chemical Senses Center in Philadelphia focuses its research exclusively on smell, taste, and chemical irritation.

Scientists at the non-profit center, the only one of its kind in the nation, study everything from trimethylaminuria, a disease that can make a person smell like rotten fish, to perfume preference and food flavors.

While researchers' job duties sometimes border on the revolting, their work, which is recognized throughout the world, provides crucial information about disease, dangerous chemicals, and food safety.

Oh, yeah.

[applause] Once again, only on The Pennsylvania Game do you get important information like this.

After 20 years of doing smell experiments, one of the center's specialists on body odor has actually come to like the smell of skunk.

[laughter] I think I'm going to send him a pair of my old sneakers.

[laughter] Let's have a new question.

ANNOUNCER: St. John the Baptist Roman Catholic Church in Pittsburgh's Lawrenceville neighborhood was scheduled for demolition when local investors bought it.

Three years later, in August 1996, the doors of St. John the Baptist reopened as what?

A, a local dealerships used car showroom, B, a McDonald's, C, a brewery pub, or D, a juvenile detention center.

SCOTT BRUCE: I can't imagine four better choices for a church to become.

Could it be used cars-- [horn tooting] -- McDonald's-- [laughter] --I think they're parking here now-- McDonald's, a brewery pub, or a juvenile detention center.

Debbie, we'll go to you first.

I pick D. SCOTT BRUCE: You pick D?

You went with the juvenile detention center.

See, now, that made sense.

That's logical.

That's going to get you in a lot of trouble on our show.

Dick.

I picked the brewery pub.

I'm a big fan of microbreweries, and I'm hoping that might be what it is.

SCOTT BRUCE: You're hoping there.

That way you could go and pray and sip a little.

Yeah, I like it.

How about you?

He's a fan of microbreweries.

I pick C because I'm an alcoholic.

[laughter] DICK NELSON: To each his own, I guess.

SCOTT BRUCE: Everyone laughed at that except Jeff's wife.

Let's find out-- [laughter] --what the answer is.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is C, a brewery pub.

[applause] In 1996, the Church Brew Works, a brewpub that sells beer to be enjoyed on the premises, was established in the former St. John the Baptist Roman Catholic Church in Lawrenceville, which closed due to declining membership.

It's believed to be the only brewpub in America in such a setting.

The brewery steel and copper tanks were installed on the former altar of the deconsecrated church.

The new owners not only saved the church from the wrecking ball, they retained and refurbished the stained glass and gold decorations.

The church's lectern serves as a hostess station, and a confessional houses the Church Brew Works' merchandise.

The restored church and handcrafted brews are attracting a lot of visitors.

Already, there's a growing legion of faithful Church-goers.

SCOTT BRUCE: Mm, yeah.

[applause] Not just faithful-- flocks, flocks and flocks of Church-goers is what we have now.

Well, now it's time to get to know our panel just a little bit better.

Let's meander on over here to Jeff.

Oh, Jeff.

How are you, bud?

Good, buddy.

SCOTT BRUCE: You know, here's something that gets asked me all the time.

I know it gets asked you, so let's clear it up for all our viewers.

JEFF PIRRAMI: 350 pounds.

[laughter] What?

Oh, go ahead.

SCOTT BRUCE: No, but that was a real good answer.

I like it.

I want to know-- I would say the viewing public wants to know, where do we get our material?

Where do you get your material for comedy?

I get it off the Comedy Channel myself.

SCOTT BRUCE: The Comedy Channel.

You just watch it and take that.

I lift it.

No.

Everyday experiences like this.

My family and my kids.

Look at my three kids there.

SCOTT BRUCE: Yeah, we had one of your kids on camera earlier.

We had a lot of fun.

Today, we had fun.

We skipped the hotel without paying the bill, stuff like that.

SCOTT BRUCE: Yeah!

Good stuff.

I like that.

Well, let's find out some more about you from the other half.

Let's run down to Debbie.

Deb.

Yeah?

Why?

What were you thinking.

[laughter] I was drunk.

SCOTT BRUCE: No, no.

I understand that in addition to sometimes traveling with Jeff and performing yourself, you also work for Amtrak.

Yes, I do.

SCOTT BRUCE: Well, that's got to be very exciting.

What do you do over there?

I work in the offices at 30th Street Station.

SCOTT BRUCE: Oh, right, 30th Street Station in Philadelphia.

That's very exciting part of town.

Do you have any Amtrak questions?

SCOTT BRUCE: No, I'm trying to think of one right now, but thanks for leaving me hanging here.

I appreciate that.

OK, yeah.

No, we'll see if we do have any.

If we have any Amtrak questions, we'll expect you to-- [train chugging] --come up with the right answer.

[laughter] How's that?

Jeff, I told you.

All abroad?

[laughter] How do they stay married?

OK, let's get down to Don.

Don-- JEFF PIRRAMI: Dick, it's Dick.

SCOTT BRUCE: Dick.

Dick!

Did I call you Don?

That's OK, Harry.

SCOTT BRUCE: OK, thanks, bro.

[laughter] [applause] Can you tell this is about the seventh show we've taped.

[laughter] I'm just a little goofy.

Dick, I'm so sorry.

Dick, here's the thing I want to know from you.

I keep seeing in the Olympics, every year, they're breaking the records and breaking the records, going faster.

This is your field of specialty.

Are we getting close to the end of this?

Can they continue to break these records?

Yes, it's possible.

Some records are much more difficult to break than others, but I think that will continue to happen.

SCOTT BRUCE: Can you give us an example of a difficult one to break?

Well, a 100-meter record is a very difficult record to break, and there are many others.

But as there are more and more athletes training around the world, many of the developing countries now are getting better medical support and scientific support.

And the number of countries earning medals now is broadening out.

So we're sampling a much larger population around the world.

So the records, hopefully, it'll be done on a scientific basis, not through chemicals and some.

Yes, very much so.

I agree with that.

Yes.

[applause] I agree completely.

You did that.

Hit him any time.

All right, enough of this foolishness.

Let's get back to the game.

ANNOUNCER: If you think there are 50 states in the United states, you're wrong.

There are only 46 states.

The other four, including Pennsylvania, are actually commonwealths.

Which of the following is not a commonwealth?

A, Kentucky, B, Massachusetts, C, Maryland, or D, Virginia.

SCOTT BRUCE: Hmm, 50 states.

Really only 46.

We all know the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

What are the other ones?

Which one is not a commonwealth?

Is it Kentucky, Massachusetts, Maryland, or Virginia.

Dick, we'll get on to you first on this one.

I pick A, Kentucky.

SCOTT BRUCE: Kentucky.

You're going with Kentucky.

Just from knowledge or a wild guess?

DICK NELSON: Just a wild guess.

Good for you.

That's how we like to play the game.

DICK NELSON: And I have a feeling.

I know Jeff will be guessing.

What do you think?

I saw Dick's answer.

Kentucky.

SCOTT BRUCE: Why pick Kentucky?

Because I have a little knowledge.

SCOTT BRUCE: We have two Kentuckys.

We have two Kentuckys.

Three Kentuckys.

SCOTT BRUCE: We have three Kentuckys.

What does that mean?

[cheers, applause] We're all wrong.

That means that each contestant will be getting a lottery ticket from the Pennsylvania lottery, which is exactly how we do it.

We'll pass them out to you in just a little bit.

But in the meantime, let's find out which one is the right answer.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is C, Maryland.

[laughter] Like Kentucky, Massachusetts, and Virginia, Pennsylvania is legally a commonwealth.

Today, state and commonwealth are correctly used interchangeably.

The distinction between them has been held to have no legal significance.

Pennsylvania is also known as the Quaker State or Keystone State, the latter referencing its location along the arch of the 13 original states.

[applause] OK, well, it's time to find out what we're doing scorewise.

And as I look at the scoreboard, the score is 1-- that's it, just 1.

They all have 1.

1 to 1 to 1.

It's a barn burner, kids.

[applause] Time for your first clue in the Mystery Pennsylvanian.

Here we go.

Nicknamed The King, he is one of the century's most influential athletes.

Nicknamed The King, he is one of the century's most influential athletes.

How many sports have a King?

I don't know.

But this famous Pennsylvanian is nicknamed The King.

He's one of the century's most influential athletes.

Everybody's writing something, or at least they better be soon, because in just a second, we'll be going to a whole new question.

ANNOUNCER: Thomas Eakins, regarded as the finest American painter of the 19th century, studied at the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts in his hometown of Philadelphia.

He eventually taught there, but was fired in 1886 after a dispute caused by A, his use of nude male models in a class that included young ladies, B, his emphasis on abstract art, C, his unflattering portrait of President Grover Cleveland's wife, or D, his offensively realistic paintings.

SCOTT BRUCE: Hmm, Thomas Eakins, what the heck did he do?

Was it his use of nude male models in a class that included young ladies, his emphasis on abstract art, his unflattering portrait of President Grover Cleveland's wife, or his offensively realistic paintings?

Jeff, we'll go to you first.

D, his offensively realistic paintings.

SCOTT BRUCE: Offensive.

You went with the D, offensively realistic paintings.

A lot of that in the news now, anyway.

JEFF PIRRAMI: Yes, there is.

Yes, there is.

I like how you agreed with me.

Debbie, what do you think?

I picked A. SCOTT BRUCE: A?

Yeah.

You went with the ladies.

The nude ladies.

The nude men in front of the ladies.

That was kind of like a little dream of yours.

I like that.

Good.

Dick?

I went with also for different reasons.

[laughter] SCOTT BRUCE: You know what?

That was such a good answer.

Give him a lottery ticket.

[laughter] Give him another lottery ticket.

Excellent, Dick.

OK, now let's find out what Thomas Eakins did.

Tell us, Wendy.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is A.

In 1886, Thomas Eakins was forced to resign from the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts, where he received his own early art training, due to his insistence that students of both sexes be allowed to draw from nude models.

He was an uncompromising realist, so intent on accurately painting the human form that while studying art, he also studied anatomy at a nearby medical school.

Although he received little recognition in his lifetime, he is now regarded as the greatest realist in the history of American art.

The Gross Clinic, a monumental portrait of the eminent surgeon, Dr. Samuel Gross, has been called by many critics America's greatest masterpiece.

There you go.

[applause] Thomas Eakins didn't begin to receive real recognition for his work until the 1930s.

In fact, he had little commercial success, selling only 20 paintings during his lifetime.

And once again, come to my show, learn stuff.

It's good.

JEFF PIRRAMI: Dick has 10 of them.

Dick has 10 of them.

Let's learn some more stuff right now.

ANNOUNCER: Joe Magarac is Pennsylvania's Paul Bunyan.

Was the legendary folk hero, A, a mountain man, B, a man of steel, C, a railroad builder, or D, a revolutionary war hero?

SCOTT BRUCE: Joe Magarac, Pennsylvania's Paul Bunyan.

Was he a legendary mountain man, the man of steel, a railroad builder-- [train whistling] --or a rebel-- and there comes your Amtrak question, get ready-- a revolutionary war hero.

Let's go to you, first, Debbie, since it's your field of expertise.

I pick C because I had to.

SCOTT BRUCE: Yeah.

Had you picked anything else, you'd have been laughed out of the room.

That's right.

Dick, what do you think?

I picked D for no particular reason.

Well, D hasn't been used yet.

That's the kind of thinking that works on this show.

You're doing good, Dick.

How about you, Jeff?

Man of steel because of the steel.

SCOTT BRUCE: The steel in Pennsylvania.

We've got three different answers.

They've covered all but one base.

Wendy, what happens?

ANNOUNCER: The answer is B. Joe Magarac is a folk hero of the Pittsburgh area steel mills.

Historians debate whether he was an authentic folk legend or manufactured by newspapermen to give the Pittsburgh steel industry a much needed folk hero.

Many believe the legend originated 100 years ago among Hungarian immigrant steelworkers.

In any case, by the 1930, the stories of Joe Magarac were well established.

He was a huge steel man who appeared out of nowhere to write a falling 50-ton crucible that threatened the lives of the steelworkers.

One story alleges that he melted himself down in a Bessemer furnace to make steel for a new mill.

Others maintained he's waiting among the rusting ruins of old Pennsylvania steel mills for the day that the furnaces are burning again.

In Hungarian, "magarac" means jackass, a fitting name for a folk hero who worked like a donkey 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

[applause] Only Pennsylvania hero could be a jackass.

Only in Pennsylvania.

We couldn't be happier.

OK, let's take a look at our scoreboard.

Last time, I believe the score was 1.

Now the score is 2!

2 to 2 to 2!

[applause] It just doesn't get any closer than this, people.

Time for your next clue in the Mystery Pennsylvanian.

Pens ready.

He almost single-handedly brought his sport to its current state of popularity with his exciting brand of play.

Say it again.

SCOTT BRUCE: He almost single-handedly brought his sport to its current state of popularity with his exciting brand of play.

Nicknamed The King, he is one of the century's most influential athletes.

I've got a lot of crazy looking nods.

Nobody seems really sure, but he is The King, and I think you'll agree with that once you've figured it out.

All right.

Everybody's done writing.

Let's jump right back to the game.

ANNOUNCER: In 1999, Pennsylvania unveiled plans to reissue license plates for the first time since 1976.

The new design will replace millions of worn, faded and peeling license plates and will be the first in the nation to feature what?

A, the state's website address, B, images of state celebrities, C, official state symbols, or D, the recycling symbol.

SCOTT BRUCE: Once again, a Pennsylvania first.

What's it going to be?

Is it Pennsylvania's website address on the license plate?

Is it images of state celebrities, official state symbols, or the recycling symbol?

Dick, we'll go to you first.

I pick D. SCOTT BRUCE: D, you went with the recycling symbol.

That's very '90s kind of answer.

I like it.

How about you, Jeff?

What did I press?

[laughs] SCOTT BRUCE: I don't know.

You pressed B.

B.

You want with images of state celebrities.

Yes.

I hope soon to be under the Scott Bruce license plate.

[laughter] I see that day coming.

All right, Debbie, what do you think?

C, official state symbols.

SCOTT BRUCE: C, official state symbols.

Once again, I believe we've chosen, yes, three different answers.

Ticket?

SCOTT BRUCE: No, different answers.

Oh.

You actually have to give me a ticket now.

Three different answers, and yet, I think, they managed to sneak around one.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is A, it's website address.

Pennsylvania will replace the state's roughly nine million license plates over a three-year period at no charge to motorists.

The license plate replacement program is aimed at retiring millions of hard-to-read license plates with all reflective ones, using the same blue and yellow color scheme.

Governor Ridge says the plate will send a positive signal that Pennsylvania is high tech, high energy, and ready for the new millennium.

The new plate shows www.state.pa.us across the bottom and is expected to bring millions of visitors to Pennsylvania's home page, which was recognized in 1999 as the best state website in the nation.

[applause] State officials, well, you know, we had to mess something up.

State officials were sorely disappointed to learn that license plate holders obscure the web address.

In fact, if you've been pulled over, you can actually be cited for covering up the web address.

Yeah, we need more things to be pulled over for, I think.

Isn't that about right?

Good news for you people who have Wild Resource Conservation plate or Purple Heart or antique plates, don't worry, you don't have to replace your plate.

So there you have that.

Let's have another question.

ANNOUNCER: If the sun rises on Christmas Day at 7:01 AM in Philadelphia, when will it rise in Erie?

A, the same time, B, 12 minutes earlier, C, 16 minutes later, or D, 26 minutes later?

SCOTT BRUCE: Hmm, it's the time difference.

Jeff's answer, who cares?

If the sun rises on Christmas Day at 7:01 in Philly, when will it rise in Erie?

Is it going to rise at the exact same time, 12 minutes earlier, 16 minutes later, or 26 minutes later?

Jeff, we now care what you think.

This is a trick question.

And I think your staff is running out of questions.

[laughter] What time will the fat man eat his next carrot is the next question.

I press C, 16 minutes later.

SCOTT BRUCE: 16 minutes later.

I think that's a very good guess.

Let's find out if it's right.

Deb.

I pick B.

You went with B, 12 minutes earlier.

JEFF PIRRAMI: That's why she's always late for work.

[laughter] SCOTT BRUCE: So those Amtrak trains run on time?

Just checking.

Dick, what do you think?

I pick C, also.

SCOTT BRUCE: You went with C, 16 minutes later.

Nobody thought the same time, and nobody thought 26 minutes.

Let's find out what the time is.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is D, 26 minutes later.

Sunrise times change every day or two as the Earth orbits the sun and rotates on its axis.

Erie's longitude, the east-west measurement on the Earth, is 5.1 degrees west of Philadelphia's longitude.

Since all celestial bodies, including stars, rise in the east and set in the west, Erie will see the same view of the sky Philly had, but 26 minutes later on Christmas Day.

Latitude, the north-south measurement, also influences sunrise times.

Philadelphia has a lower latitude than Erie.

So in winter, when the sun is below the equator, it takes sunlight longer to get from Philadelphia to Erie.

But in summer, the sun is above the equator, and the difference in sunrise times will be as little as 12 minutes.

[applause] SCOTT BRUCE: That's a very, very, very big state.

Some of our studio audience knew it.

And what part of our state is our Mystery Pennsylvanian from?

Let's find out now with clue number 3.

He has an army of fans and is one of the most trusted pitchmen in America.

[chiming tune] He has an army of fans.

That's a big clue there.

Wouldn't you say, studio audience?

An army of fans.

Nicknamed The King, he is one of the century's most influential athletes.

He almost single-handedly brought his sport to its current state of popularity with his exciting brand of play.

Jeff seems to be done.

That was done.

SCOTT BRUCE: Dick seems to be done.

Debbie looks completely done.

They're all done.

We're going to start with Debbie.

Debbie, hold your card up so we can all see it.

See you're up with Jim Thorpe, Doug Flutie, and clueless.

I loved King Clueless.

He was great!

That was good.

JEFF PIRRAMI: She's not really my wife.

SCOTT BRUCE: Did you a reason for these actors?

Jim Thorpe because he's an exit off the turnpike.

Doug Flutie because I love the Bills, and clueless because I'm clueless.

SCOTT BRUCE: All right.

Well, I like your answers.

I think they're great.

Dick, what do you have?

Well, I've started with Bronko Nagurski because I grew up in Minnesota, and I know he was a great athlete.

Then I picked, generically, a Carlisle person, a Native American.

I couldn't think of the name.

SCOTT BRUCE: Couldn't come up with a Jim Thorpe.

And I couldn't come up with Jim Thorpe.

But anyway, I would have had I been able to think of Jim Thorpe.

And what was your third answer?

DICK NELSON: Well, it just says a Native American.

Oh, so you'd go with Jim Thorpe.

So you felt strong about Jim Thorpe right there to the end.

DICK NELSON: I didn't know that.

All right, Jeff, what do you have?

I think I got it at the end, so I changed my first two answers, no?

[laughter] SCOTT BRUCE: No.

Nice try, though.

Show us.

I went with Montana Hogan.

Then you said Arnie, it's Arnold Palmer.

SCOTT BRUCE: Montana Hogan, Arnold Palmer.

He feels pretty strong about this.

Wendy, is it The King, the Arnie's Army?

ANNOUNCER: Arnold Palmer was born in Latrobe in 1929.

The son of a golf pro, he took his first swing and a golf ball at age three.

As a teenager, Palmer was Pennsylvania's best junior golfer, winning the Western Pennsylvania amateur title five times.

He won the US Amateur title in 1954 and turned pro the following year.

Admired as much for his rapport with fans as for his 61 wins on the PGA tour, including seven major championships, the Associated Press named him Athlete of the Decade in 1970.

One of the most trusted pitchmen in America, Palmer divides his time between a home in Orlando, Florida, and a hillside house overlooking the scenic Latrobe Country Club where he first learned to play golf.

Arnold Palmer, a famous Pennsylvanian.

SCOTT BRUCE: Hey.

Arnie!

Arnie.

The King.

The King.

My hero.

My number one absolute favorite Pennsylvanian.

Arnold Palmer, The King, from right near Johnstown, from Latrobe, Pennsylvania.

And I can't believe that Dick is a golfer and didn't get it.

I was shocked.

And it took you three tries to get The King.

He owes me money.

SCOTT BRUCE: He owes you cash.

But anyway, let's see what that brought us up to scorewise.

That means that now our final total is-- Jeff has 3, Debbie 2, Dick 2.

Jeff Pirrami is our champion today.

[cheers, applause] Undefeated!

SCOTT BRUCE: Undefeated, still champ.

Wendy Williams, why don't you tell Jeff what he's won.

ANNOUNCER: Well, Scott, how about free passes to explore the Carnegie Science Museum?

Plus, one night stay at the Hampton Inn University Center, Pittsburgh.

Plus 50 chances to win $1,000 a week for life from the Pennsylvania lottery.

[applause] And there you have it, lottery tickets right there, along with-- Oh, look at the wife, grabbing them right away.

Wasting no time.

Guess where those lottery tickets go.

You guys are all so good.

You played very good.

Oh, you got cauliflower now.

A little bonus.

JEFF PIRRAMI: Cauliflower.

SCOTT BRUCE: Is he going to pull a steak out of there?

I'm just curious.

Because I've been noticing an odor over here.

Is there's time left?

She knows the order.

[laughter] I don't think there's enough time.

We've had another great time.

Thanks for joining us.

Everybody at home and in the studio, bye.

[applause] ANNOUNCER: The Pennsylvania Game is made possible in part by-- ANNOUNCER: By a grant from the Pennsylvania Public Television Network.

The network receives funding from the commonwealth to provide public television for all Pennsylvanians.

ANNOUNCER: Guest accommodations provided by the Nittany Lion Inn on the University Park campus of Penn State.

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