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We've got an exciting show.
We take a look at our toledo.com community calendar driven by Tada!
And our friend John I guest is in the building already.
That's how you know a new month has started.
Was that how you figure it out?
It's it's it's the air of John Wick is coming in to talk about the upcoming month.
Turning of the pag on the calendar.
That's right.
That's right.
John, I guess I guess the advent calendar.
Yeah.
It underneath each day, it's just a little Swedish fish.
There's not a lot of people know this.
John is 75% Swedish and 25% fish.
25% can find out.
That's what the show is.
85% sweet.
We had I don't know.
We had a conversation yesterday about, Matt, your murdering rampage burns.
She struck again.
Murder rampage cats, right?
Yeah.
I'm assuming attacking birds?
Yeah.
No.
I have trained ou feral cat to not attack birds.
Feral cats are a real problem for birds.
It is just.
You have the first ever trained feral cat.
Kevin, I'm a direct manager for you.
It is slaying mice at an unbelievable level.
Well, I, I can only assum that the bird community talked, have talked, and then decided to take it out on my car.
Yeah.
No, because at no point yesterday was I parked under a tree.
Yeah.
But what?
I came out of my office, the entire.
Yeah.
Driver's side.
You need to put Matt's feral cat by your car.
Yes.
And just leave it as a guard.
It's the biggest week in birding, Kevin.
A lot of us celebrate in different ways.
Yeah.
No, I can tell tha it was a big week for the birds and quite well.
Yeah, and they left it all behind on my car.
Yeah.
I'll tell you what.
One of my favorite things to do, and the biggest week of birding, and as you said, it's every week is to take a dump on the hood of our producer Shane's car and then claim it was a bird.
Yeah.
Those geese.
Yeah.
Knock it off.
His car even drives a dumb car.
It's just the dumbest.
The car.
So it's pretty.
I just, I get on top, I get on my haunches.
He drives in Aztec.
Don't ever say this to me.
That's a medical term.
You wouldn't know it.
And, I tend to drink.
Yeah, it's, Oh.
The shame about it comes with a tent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You in that car?
I do, yeah.
Shane loves it.
It pops up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't that's how it works, basically.
Then, you just lay flaccid.
Yeah.
So I think we need to lay off the birds because it's the biggest bird in America.
Okay.
Because they're going to keep attacking us.
I think I think that's.
I'm with you.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
We had to hit our producer, Shane.
Yeah.
Okay.
I didn't hear that.
I'll take it.
Yeah.
Give you that?
It's when I put a fine poin on that, we we had Kim Kaufman.
Yes.
From Black Swan Bird Observatory on the program.
I don't know, maybe a month or so ago as one of our mystery guests.
Yeah.
Phenomenal conversation.
If you missed any part of it, you got to go back and check i out on Spotify, on the website.
And I promis you'll enjoy the conversation.
And you'll lear so much about the great things that are happening in and around this week.
It is a big deal.
I'm sure we'll talk with John about that as we talk about, you know, even if it's not your thing, I would recommend, just heading out to experience it.
It is, northwest Ohio, a globally unique experience.
So you don't have to do anything about birds.
You don't have to necessarily have, binoculars, anything.
Just go see even the giant congregation of people is worth a stop.
And pet cats are not welcome.
Well, so, yeah, they're the voice of reason.
All right.
So John, I gues is going to be on the program.
Chri Aldrich will be on the program.
And then Adam Cassie from Keep to Live Toledo Lucas County.
Beautiful.
I think talking about a few of them, just some other projects that they have going on.
Love it.
I literally is right around the corner as well.
So a lot of great things going on.
All right, let's take a break.
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And our good friend John.
I guest is back on set.
John, how are you guys?
Welcome to me John.
We're here.
It's just keeps it's his job to welcome us to me.
Oh sorry John can you welcome us to meet welcome to man.
Thank you.
Oh, yeah.
I like that now.
Like fashion slash, gravy.
Swedish hospitality.
Tell me, since we've been throug the toughest change, that's all.
Welcome to me.
Yeah, yeah, but you are not the Swedish.
True story.
Okay.
German.
Are you a chef?
I'm not a chef.
Not even the closest thing to a chef.
Now, we talked about this thing to a chef.
A chef?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought I was good, but first of all, the surprise is probably first to Kevin.
But we do a lot learning on this show.
And that's obviously we do a lot of word learning.
Oh, open your ears, granny.
All right, so, John, you are the man behind Toledo dot coms community calendar.
You come on the program every month talking about, ever week we take a look at the top five events in the region to help people get, outside of their selves and experienc new things around the community.
I think I just told the Metro Parks, tagline for that.
You should use that common ground.
That's grass outside yourself.
Yes, yes.
Right.
Is bingo.
Here, I'll take it.
But once a month you come in and we talk about not just what's coming up this week, but really take a look at the month.
So let's maybe let's start with this week.
Right.
What's what's going on.
We talked about biggest week converting I know that's on the list.
Yeah.
And speaking of biggest week in burning.
Burning I on the way in.
So a duck using a crosswalk just at the beginning of.
Yeah.
That's that's the best material I've got.
The job.
I couldn't believe it.
I, I've kind of.
I feel like you kind of got it together from biggest Week in Burning.
We've got a pretty stringent drug policy here.
And, do you think that you did wait for the walk signal?
It seemed like it.
Okay.
It seemed like it.
It wasn't confusing.
I mean, maybe it's just the mommy ducks are.
You know, it could have been that insurance salesman duc that likes to follow the rules.
You don't know the Geico thing.
Yeah.
This is this show brought to you by Geico.
Let's get to the video.
Okay.
Let's get the first event night market in our Geico and duck.
You know, the three's duck.
Oh, Aflac.
Whatever.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
The firs event this week is night night market in the garden.
John, what is this all about?
So this is an event.
Fancy Maryland is the organizer.
Most of the night markets take plac at, the farmers market downtown.
The first one of the season, I think, for the last couple of years has taken plac at the Toledo Botanical Garden.
There's artists, music, you know, a lot of food.
And just, it's the Artist village that's out there at TBG.
So this kind of kicks off the season, and then it will shift, for the summer to the farmers market.
Fancy does such a incredible job.
You know, with these events the, the downtown night markets at Erie Street Market are, just it's a lot of fun.
All my jumping live music, local vendors.
It's an easy way.
I mean, for for me, it's an easy excuse to take fresh flowers home because there's always a flower vendor.
But you need an excuse for that.
I don't think I've eve had a mantra for flowers before.
You used to look into it.
Yeah, I'm.
I'm ready.
I' ready in a lot of notes.
I've.
I've got.
There's a lot going on.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
Those are the flowers.
Yes.
Yep yep, yep.
We got a collection right from a best of one.
And that event is free to attend.
Yes, I believe it.
Yes it is, yes it is.
The next thing we talked about a couple of times is the biggest week of in, in American birding, right.
We've had Kim Kaufmann on our show before.
I would encourage people to go back and listen to her episode.
She's such an engaging and interesting person, but tell us a little bit about what's going on with the biggest week in American Birding.
So ther there are a lot of things that, that kind of culminate that whole week.
Obviously the biggest being the birds watching the birds.
And I think of like Magee Marsh area is where kind of most of that takes place.
But I know there are a lot o panel discussions and workshops and things that people can kind of, get deeper involved.
You know, it's funny not knowing that I was kind of involved with this.
I had Chicago friends say, when are all those birds coming through Toledo and northwest Ohio and, and so it's it's on the map.
I mean, people really you know, kind of have started to equate this area with this massive migration.
So and if you, own a business that has a building or even at your own home, you're encouraged during this week, especiall to turn the outdoor lights off.
Because the birds are migrating.
You can get more information about this at, interestingly, the biggest week in American birding.com, and they have all the events and everything there.
And you can also get it, of course, at slate.com.
That's right John, the third week, event of the week is maker's Mark, right?
Always an awesome event.
I made.
Toledo.
I know you've had Bett or Jessica on the, show before, and so maker's Mar is kind of the OG when it comes to these artisan makers events around town.
They've been doing it for so long.
And, another great way to, you know, either just give gifts to people, pick out gifts, they're handmade, have a little bit of kind of love and TLC these days.
May 10th.
That's right A lot of the unique stuff there.
They are there's a, from a cost perspective a lot of approachable pricing.
My girls like to get stuff for their mom.
They're, It's a great event.
And it's on Adams, which I think is a good place for people to sort of congregate.
There's a lot going on in that street, a lot of restaurants and, Toledo one ones doing Toledo stuff.
So it's an epicenter of things to be proud of, and it's pretty much an all day affair.
I mean, the entry fee is nominal.
Yeah, you know, to get in, but a lot of local artists, but also regional artists, artists from Michigan and Indiana, I think.
And so it's, yeah, it's well attended dozens of very well.
What's your favorite border state?
My favorite border state.
Yeah.
It's got to be Michigan.
Okay.
Yours.
Tennessee.
Interesting.
Yeah, that is it.
You weren't you didn't clarify.
That's right.
Yeah.
I don't see a good one.
Yeah, yeah.
I've been married.
The fourth of it is, eco fest.
Eagle Fest.
We have Adam Kelsey on the show a little bit later, today.
But this is happening, this Saturday, May 9th.
I'm happy to see tha their event made the list.
Yeah.
So this is all about sustainability.
I believe it takes plac at the Glass City Metro parks.
That's right.
And very family friendly kind of thing where, you know, the messaging is all about how to care for the environment an that you have a unique position as you are actually pro microplastics.
Do I talk a little bit about that?
That's right.
Yeah.
You're trying to get you like some with a little salt a little bit of salt.
Yeah.
That's right.
Can you talk abou your unusual position in that.
Microplastics are like tofu right.
They just take on the flavo whatever's around.
That's right.
Your liver.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Do you want to speak a little bit of that?
Or we could go on to the next whole segment on it.
You're right in a little bit, but we're going to give it the time.
We need some scans of your body.
Done.
That's right.
We have the images.
If we if we announced that the 419 was doing an entire episode on microplastics.
Yeah.
How many of our listeners would doing the what would you sue that we are taking the position of pro microplastics.
This is what if we just a flat earth or.
Yeah microplastics platform.
Yeah I'll bring some before and afters of my hair before I did, you know when I had no microplastics in my system and then and now.
Yeah.
Look, my hair just completely.
That's right.
That's it.
And I just look like Idris Elba.
Yeah.
Now it's like.
Yeah.
So basically you walkin more than I do and that's a lot.
Yeah, yeah.
No I just telling yo it's very telling.
That's right.
Well I'm telling it so I'm so fit.
The event on the list today is the Toledo Symphony concert Saturday, May 9th, which is the music of LED Zeppelin B. They're very fun.
Yeah.
I visited, for the first time.
The live arts, building complex is, I mean, walk through it when it was in construction.
Yeah.
And I found it, a little disappointing.
I obviously didn't know that structure at all, because I hadn't been there with the Freemasons to, you know, kill goat or anything.
It was a beautiful facility.
They were kids doing homework in the lobby.
There were sounds and all the stuff.
It is a magnificent experience.
And I went in thinking was going to be that.
Yeah.
And even.
But being there was even more magnificent than I did.
You go upstairs and see the studios.
I just said, I went through the whole building.
It's it's truly amazing.
Yeah, yeah.
No.
Live Arts Toledo is one of the onl organizations that could fit in that space properly in terms of like, the big rehearsal spaces and performance spaces.
Yeah.
All right.
What els can you tell us about?
Thanks.
Do you want to tell us about the.
You could tell you what you can jam all those birds in there.
That's right.
Yeah.
No, but I thought the same way I grew up, never knowing wha was going on in that building.
It was off limits to pretty much everybody but the Freemasons.
And so it was this dank building that I never saw any one go in or out of.
And, right now we're dead.
Yeah, it's on our bingo card.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
And, so when when they moved in there and converted the space, I've already been to a couple performances in there and it's completely amazing.
And the vision to see what that could be.
Is it was a question of the little girls coming in for ballet.
And then like, obviously, more adult performers in the every giant room was a cacophony of cacophony is on my list.
Yeah.
It's also very cool.
See, moms, dads, caregivers coming in, bringing kids.
One ki goes over to the symphony class.
I mean, the music instrument class, the other kids goes up for ballet.
I mean, the fact that it's all together for the convenience of families is so great.
They manage to, I mean, the culture that they wanted.
Yeah, they managed to.
It's like build the physical space that that makes that happen Absolutely.
And it's impressive.
I mean, that's a that's a leadership thing.
But I also think it's a it' a call to action for all of us to support the work they're doing.
No doubt.
And, you know, we had when we did our, when we did our for one nine day.
Yep.
We had a line to go on and he talked about the accessibility of the symphony, and how they don't want the the reputation of being this stuffy, extrusive thing.
And here we've got, you know, the music of LED Zeppelin, right?
That's a great way to get somebody who might normally say, well, I don't really care for classical music.
Well, if that, if that's not your thing, maybe led Zeppelin will, you know, pull you off the couch.
What's your favorite LED Zeppelin song from?
Probably go into California.
Okay.
I will be at Bruno Mars on Saturday.
John.
Really?
Yes.
Symphony live Our salute is doing Bruno Mars.
No.
I'll have to miss thi concert because Bruno needs me.
Okay, John, let's talk about other other things going on the month of May that we can look forward to in the coming weeks.
So I have a big list.
I'll kind of pick out a couple of, you know, the biggest week in birding.
So it goes on till the 17th.
So it's it's really more than a week.
And I think it depends.
It was very weather dependent on, you know, what birds migrate through So kind of keep an eye on that.
The Toledo Walley are still alive in the playoffs in the hunt for the Kelly Cup.
So that's on the 12th and the 15th of May.
May have to miss a concert if that keeps up because he's a hockey fan.
But anyway, go ahead.
Slam.
Okay, I still haven't got an iPad.
That's right.
By watching.
Exactly.
Jam City, which I kind of referenced maybe the last month or two months ago.
Jam city is food for thoughts event takes place at one Seagate.
That's one of your faves.
That is on the 14th.
Yeah.
And great food.
Really interesting food.
Just a good casual time.
But all goes to benefit, food for thought.
So I think that's that's kind of one of my highlights you mentioned kind of off there herb Alpert is coming.
You know huge that he's a legend.
Yes.
And, where's he going to be.
That is going to be at the peristyle as well?
I have no idea.
I don't really I don't either.
Wow.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
So Herb Alpert is a trumpet player who, you know, the Tijuana Brass?
I'm aging myself, but.
So.
Big deal.
Anybody who is older than you to.
Yeah.
Which is.
No, he was.
He's like a truly famous person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, there's I think you should be able to devote a whole segment to him.
Yeah.
As well.
He's, he Marv Albert.
Yeah.
No he's not heard.
Albert I got, so I'm not familiar with a lot of buglers at Andersonville, which is a right to.
Where is that?
Where is that taking place?
That's at the at the peristyle.
Okay, then, thrift and sip.
Yeah.
You know, now that the weather has changed, some of these event that are kind of these pop up, I think there's that that's a Miami Bay Brewing Company are kind of in that they do it area right next to it.
There's that Morris Street, you know, and they kind of do it.
That was a big success last year.
Really cool.
Yeah yeah a few places right there.
Very cool.
Definitely.
And you know, kind of flea market, you know, but also just vintage booths and all that kind of stuff.
Are you going t be going to see Alison Krauss?
At the Toledo Zoo?
I am, I knew you would be.
Yes.
Zoo has a couple of things coming up this summer that are kind of fun.
I'm sure you can get more information@toledo.com or on their website, but the summer concert series and, Jim Gaffigan and some other events.
Yeah.
Who's going to be there?
And, who is your second favorite herb?
Herb?
Herbie Hancock nailed it.
Thank you.
So, Henson.
Second favorite.
Yeah.
Well, all right, we'll devot a whole segment to that first.
Yeah.
So we get microplastics.
Human segment That's right.
It's a very busy.
Well I've seen your content lately.
Yeah.
So, you know, it's it's a severe.
Oh, no.
Hands and hounds.
I always love this event.
This is that, the Toledo Mud Hen allow people to bring their dogs speaking about hens, I am very excite about the third week, May 23rd.
They're doing the paper night with Oscar Nunez.
That was in the office.
That was on my list.
I know it's right here.
Yeah.
May 23rd.
Are you going to go to that?
I might going we are going to go.
Yeah.
Let's go.
We we started to dress up lik our favorite office characters.
I was all dressed up like Hernandez.
And I love the paper, so I think that's a great combination.
It's cool that he's enjoying the paper.
That's that's on the 23rd.
It took a minute.
Me like most good things do you did you did you enjoy the paper?
Yeah.
I haven't watched it end to end, but it's but it's.
Yeah, it was funny, I liked it.
Yeah, I saw, I saw the first one I thought was pretty funny.
Cool.
A few more highlights.
Yes.
Science after dark.
Is it Imagination Station?
But also, like, this one is kind of Star Wars theme because they're bringing in a new exhibition.
Let me get the name of it.
Science Strikes Back.
Oh, cool.
May 20th 3rd to August 23rd.
And it has Star Wars memorabilia.
You know, we have, scripts an costumes and things like that.
That's very cool.
What night is that?
That is, the Science After Dark is the 23rd same night is the paper, Oscar Moon.
Yeah.
So you might have to do that on the 30.
We can do it.
We can do both.
You can start.
I can get you from one to the other.
They absolutely cannot say what you've got a gift, but loo how look how that just reduced the amount of time We look forward to seeing you.
I'm excite to be in the first week of June.
Yes.
If you only do one thing the entire month of May.
Yeah.
Oh boy.
I hope it's paid.
Oh man, that is a good question.
Why don't you go to, Flower day weekend at the Toledo?
Thank you.
So good place.
And and fresh flowers that it really?
You don't need an excuse.
I don't need it.
You don't.
You don't need excuse.
Thank you.
Go.
Yeah.
And all of this information can be found@toledo.com.
Thank you so much John I appreciate it.
Again.
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If you've seen Toledo from the skies, there's a good chance that it's this guy that made that possible.
Chris Aldrich with Toledo Aerial Media joins us.
You are a, drone and video production service.
If folks have never heard of Toledo Area media, what rock are they living under?
But but how do you describe, to them to somebody that may not know.
So we are a creative and technical drone service company and now also a complete production studio.
So I've see you guys do like golf ball drops and like a little bit of everything, I mean, but what's the bread and butter is really drone videography and photography like at least of what we've known of who you are.
Yeah.
So that's in our DNA.
We're in our 11th year of business.
We started 100% drones, so we were doing drone things before people even knew what drones were.
Chris.
Yeah, I want if we can, highlight that just for a second.
Talk to me about you and your partner, Phil, who is a great guy.
I'm glad you came out and not him.
My words.
Chris, why that path in particular?
Talk to me a little bit about your education.
In saying was a niche now will seem ridiculous.
But, to my standards, 11 years ago was out in front of this.
You guys are immensely talented.
And we'll talk a little bit about what you've been doing, but how did this start and why drones.
Yeah.
So I think personally myself, I was into RC when I was younger, you know, boats, planes, helicopters, cars, those sorts of things.
And RC for those who don't know is remote control.
Radio control really.
Yep.
So that kind of led into that.
And then my educational background went to BG Isagi and visual communications technology.
So that's photo video immersive, you know 360 content, interactive media, things like that.
So when you kind of pair those two together, drones were a really great vessel to kind of combined, you know, a passion from when I was younger with a skill set that I learne you know, traditionally there's a tech portion of this i well beyond, my understanding.
But, are your folks tech oriented?
Did you grow up with a grandparent or an older brother or siste that was particularly into this?
Like, it is not an immediate thing to say.
Oh, my kid is really into, radio controlled.
It's certainly a popular thing, but that isn't necessarily for everybody.
Well, are you tech savvy?
Is your daddy or mama gadget person?
That's not in my family at all.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just, you know I saw a movie when I was, a kid, and it was about this, boy that had a bunch of radio controlled vehicles, and I don't know, that just stuck in my head.
What was the movie?
I think it might have been called Radio Shack or something like that.
Yeah, but it was, you know, just one of those made for TV movies.
And it just stuck with me since then, and I just, I don't know, I love something about it.
Yeah.
It's the driving or the operation of the, drones, similar to, to a driving a boat or a car.
Is it the similar function?
At least to start, I mean, RC boat or car, right, right.
RC little car.
I mean, you've still got you're not driving with a steering wheel, s it's just you need to also get, you know a lot of times in the RC world, you're not getting that first person view from the vehicle itself, which is different than drones and drones or most of our drones.
We can see the viewpoint from the drone itself.
So that becomes a much different experience than driving.
Let's see an RC boat, or you're in a pond driving around and you're viewing it from one standpoint.
Have you always been abl to see what the drone is seeing, or is that a recent development.
Ask about the town.
So in the very beginning, no I mean, the the original drones, before they were commercially manufactured, some of them didn't even have cameras at all.
It was treated much more like an RC plane, where you were just looking at it from the ground as you would fly it around.
What was the moment?
I mean when you started this business, you were ahead of, you know, really the commercialization of drones or, you know, there's I mean, you can buy them for, you know, ten bucks on Amazon now, right?
I mean, like this.
They're everywhere.
What was the moment when you realized, like, oh, this might stick around like this business might actually work?
Well I think it was when the demand because a lot of what we've done in our business is we've had to tell people, you know, what they need from us in the very beginning.
Now, obviously, people come to us because they have a better idea.
But I think seeing drones in major retailers, that was a big ey opening thing here for a second.
We've been a client, we've been the Metroparks for a decade.
And I will tell you, and not to make you feel uncomfortable with compliments, but the Chris and Phil are still, telling us or advising us what we need, right?
I mean, we certainly understand, you know, we have beautiful stills with our Weber, a dog, Hayden.
Bob, who's on the show does, great, images as well.
We have, Alex Gatz and, our kids who do great videos, but we still rely on you and Phil, to say, well, how should what should we be capturing?
So when you say a full service, firm or agency that is so important.
The people in my position.
Because I want your opinion.
Right?
You have.
You have a real talent.
And without your input, you'd still just be boxed in by my limited vision.
Quite literally.
Right.
So.
Right.
You guys have come a long way.
And and brought your clients along with you, so we're grateful for that.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I mean, that's you are one of the metro parks, meaning you are one of our longest standing clients.
So they were one of the very, very few in the beginning.
So, it's been it's been fun.
Just, in the beginning, it was photo and video.
Right now it's what I like about it is it's constantly changing and evolving, like, what can we do with a drone?
And it's not always we call the eye candy.
As an ambassador to our company.
So people see the pretty pictures, they see the video from the marathon.
That's an ambassador for us as a company.
But, you know, the really coo stuff that we do might not look, you know, neat or exciting to somebody.
That's the technical work.
That's when you get into the mapping and the laser scanning and the thermal imaging.
It might not look cool, but I think it's incredibly exciting.
It's I mean, the tech around drones has changed so much.
I mean, you talk about you know, FPV, first person view sort of drones, bu being able to fly them indoors is, is is different than when you started the company.
What you've been flying them indoors the whole time.
My middle daughter Monroe and I bought, one at target.
We fly in a lot.
No, no, no, I mean, like, but the but the drones that you would have starte the business with 11 years ago.
Yeah.
You wouldn't take that same drone and fly it through a bowling alley.
No, no, I mean, we we did.
I mean, those were the tool tool that were available at the time.
But, you know the tools are always advancing.
So.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Can I ask because, the what what was the I have a favorite shot of amongst and I'm, I'm sure there's hundreds, but what is the sort of oddest thing that you were asked or capture or potentially the most unique and surprising because that has to happen.
The oddest thing there's been a lot of.
Sure, I don't know I think the stuff that makes me the most excited is probably PGA tour.
When we were, that was the whole story about that in and of itself.
They called us ten days before their event down in, Austin, Texas, and they said, what's it going to take to get you guys here?
Yeah, you're like, you're the one at money, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
And, we figured it out.
So we actually did one of ou drone golf ball drops for them.
But we also ended up capturing content for a golf digest in the tour itself.
And a lot of the bumper shots that they play on will be.
So, Chris, do you ever, like, kind of pinch yourself here?
The old saying like, where are you from originally?
So I'm from Woodville, Ohio a little small town, you know, rural, graduated with 70 some people.
So, yeah, it's really neat to travel around.
Yeah.
We got a Golf Digest amongst other, publication.
That's a big deal, man.
Yeah.
I mean, that's to me like a the like this is a big this is incredible I love you know, we're in the 3232 states that we've, done work in in the last 11 years.
So that's exciting.
But I really love all the work we do around here.
You know, our home base.
So we always we like to travel out and get that perspective.
We also like when people say, you're from Toledo, you know, that's it's not typically around the country.
We're not known as a tech forward area.
So we take that as a compliment.
Speaking of perspective, it's it's so interesting to me as a, as a creative person that you are, the perspective of always being, you know, on high shooting these things that are below and the difference that is from just taking a regular photograph or painting something straight o when you're down on the ground looking at something the way the rest of us do, do you, do you always wish tha you were seeing it from above?
That's a good question.
That is a good question.
Yes and no.
But you start to visualize it, and I don't know, you start to be more aware of what's going on in the sky.
You know, planes and stuff can fly over and most people don't even acknowledge them unless it's, you know, a helicopter flying right over their head.
But I think in our world, we're constantly listening to what's going on in the air.
Just for safety reasons, you know?
But it gets built into our mentality.
But then you start to envision things, you know, we can look at aerial photos and say, I know about how high that was taken from.
We got so fascinated.
So many.
Yeah, you talk about safety.
It's like a little bi like anybody can go to the store and buy a drone, right?
But not anybody can legally fly a drone.
Right, right.
What are what are some of the, the rules of regulations and things that you guys have had to keep up with and maybe what's what's one of those things that you guys have to do to, to fly for the PGA tour that people wouldn't realize is a part of that process?
Yeah.
So that's been one of the biggest evolutions aside from the technology i our industry, is the regulated, regulatory, you know, standpoint.
So all airspace is governed by the FAA, in our world.
So, you know, in terms of keeping safe, it's those high sensitivity air spaces that are typically the issue, you know, so in proximity of airports, things like that.
We actually worked with, live golf last year, and we ended up having to file for some additional authorizations because there were high value targets at the event.
So interesting.
They were heavily controlling the airspace, so they knew every drone tha was in the air and all of that.
So, you know, things like that that people just don't think about.
Because back when we started, I always tell people it was the wild, wild West.
There really wasn't regulation.
There were, you know, blanket things from the rest of the aviation world, but there wasn't anything, you know, strictly targeting the drone world.
So that has obviously advanced a lot, which has helped us as well.
There.
You also have an exciting development in the business in that you have, a brand new office space you're down by on mud hands.
You moved in with our friends at 4 to 4.
The marketing agency.
Tell us a little bit about your new location.
Yeah.
So we're right across.
I mean, in my office, I can turn around and see down into fifth, third field.
So it's great.
We've been downtown since 2017, but we're in the more in this central business district.
And now we're down in the warehouse district, which I think fits ou personality a bit more as well.
But we just love all the activity down there, the other businesses, and it's great to be part of, that active part of downtown.
What's what's something that you haven't been asked to cover yet?
That is a on a bucket list for you.
That's a good one.
I would think I'm a big F1 fan, so if you ever got to do anything F1, we've don some really cool sports things.
But F1 for me personally was how how fast can your drones go?
Good question.
100 100 ash.
If you get into the high performance ones.
So a lot of the, you know, fast F1 cars going to be faster than our drones, but they actually have built some drones around the world that ca slightly keep up with F1 cars.
The first time I ever flew in FPV drone.
Probably illegally not.
Probably.
Definitely legally.
I was fascinated how quickly how fast it gets quickly.
I mean, I was sort of tracking alongside the highway and I was passing the school bu like it was just insane to me.
What that can do is smashing our drone into the walls of our home I was also surprised how fast.
Yeah.
Yes.
And so was anyway.
Yeah.
And that positive.
We're talking with Chris Aldridge with Toledo Aerial Media.
I mean I like the the concept of perspective here, but I think it's, you know, does every event need an aerial view?
Nope.
Not at all.
You know what I tell people?
They look at us as the dron folks because it's in our DNA.
But drones are just a tool.
So we recently, you know, our tagline now is perspective changes everything.
And even though aerial is in our name, we don't really look at aerial as this is a drone in the air, or this is Chris hanging out the side of a helicopter anymore.
This is how can we change the perspective to give viewers a different view of that?
Yeah.
So that's you know, that kind of le to the evolution of the company.
We were 100% drones, but 2 or 3 years in, our clients started saying, you know, well, if you're doing this in the air for us, can you help us out on the ground?
And that was kind o the beginning of the evolution into a complete production studio, because, you know, a dron just being a tool, it provides certain types of vantage points that, you know, you still need to do things on the ground.
Or, I mean, we even have projects that are underwater too.
So you would take previously, you would take that drone footage and hand it over t somebody else that would make it into the finished product.
And now your company is doin start to finish the whole thing.
Yeah.
You know, in the beginning we would do all the post-production on our own aerial footage, and we've always done that but we just didn't add in the, you know, the ground element.
So now we just do everything from in the air to on the ground.
So which if, if somebody is interested in becoming a drone pilot, what advice do you have for them?
Don't do it.
No.
It's actually a great industry.
I mean, there's so many jobs.
It's not always, you know, taking the pretty pictures, like I said there.
I mean, there's operators out there that are flying telecom towers for inspections.
I mean, there's there's full time jobs where you can literally fly a drone at making deliveries.
Yeah.
I mean, the end the industry is where I mean, like police and fire now have drones.
You've got, you know, roofing companies that that are doing inspections through drones.
I mean, it's really interesting you say about police because I learned in law school about case law, drones were coming out and about privacy concerns and constitutional rights and what police can see in a drone and what they're able to use as opposed to what they can see with their own eyeballs.
So it's a very interesting and emerging area.
I mean, I know the video around it that's interesting to me that I not knowing anything, which is sort of my M.O., but I didn't realize that.
And, I mean, it's it's really that they have been around that long, and it's interesting because you were in law school a long time ago, I was not I was I know what you meant.
If people want more information on Toledo aerial media, where can they find it?
We are tam.com.
Awesome Chris, thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
Thanks so much for having me.
All right.
We're gonna take a break when we come back.
Adam.
Cassie with keep Toledo, Lucas county beautiful.
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Welcome back into the 419 powered by wget E. We're joined now by Ada Cassie with keep Toledo, Lucas county beautiful.
Hey, friends, how's it going to the show?
Welcome, welcome.
Is this your first time on the show?
It is my first time.
This is surprising to me.
I do, yeah.
I'll take the blame for that one.
Okay.
To go, Kevin, because I think you and I have known each other longer than most other people in Toledo.
That's probably true.
Yeah.
I do sometimes tell people the stor that I was living in Cincinnati.
And we had decided to move back to northwest Ohio.
And so I'm not like the walk of shame, but I walked into my boss's office and said, I put in my two weeks move into Toledo, and, he said, thank God.
And he said, yeah, right, right.
He said, do you have a job lined up in Toledo?
Like now?
We're just making the move and see what happens.
He's like, well, if you're moving to Toledo and you want to make connections, Kevin Mullen is the person that you need to talk to from from Cincinnati.
Kevin got a, referral.
All right.
How about.
Did that actually pan out for you?
We had lots of conversations about where it places.
I could work.
I don't know if any of them actually panned out, but lots of good connections.
We ended up at the zoo.
I ended up at the zoo.
We started at the zoo.
I made your way to KTLA.
CB you've been there for how long now?
2018 is when I started.
What is keep two little county beautiful people out for the question.
Yeah.
So I talk to people sometimes they're like, oh, I didn't I never heard of people.
Luke is kind of beautiful.
And then I'll see them two weeks later and they're like, you're everywhere.
You're doing all sorts of stuff.
So it's like when, you know, when you see a, when you buy a yellow car and then you see yellow cars everywhere.
So we do a lot in the community just sometimes behind the scenes.
Keep America Beautiful as a national organization, there's over 700 affiliates across the country.
So under then there's a number of umbrellas that we work on.
One is litter reduction, trying to get the city lookin better than the entire county.
As far as litter goes.
And there's lots of reasons why, that is important.
We do a lot with recycling and recycling, education and composting and just general waste reduction.
We are planting lots of trees, and then we're also getting into, to public art in partnership with, with Dean Davis, who was on recently.
At the risk of, you talking any faster than you just did.
Let me ask you a question.
In terms of, strategy which is a certainly overused, term in concept, how what is the strategy o keeping Lucas County beautiful?
When you look at the you mentioned of 2 or 3000 things a moment ago.
Sorry.
Walk us through slowly or, what the strategy of it is, how you look at this.
I mean, it's a giant county.
It's a giant city.
That has, some budget challenges.
Right.
So you're going to have limited support.
And I wouldn't say this is a pervasive issue.
We're both in the business o keeping Lucas County beautiful.
If you'll allow me that.
And the two of yo certainly make it more beautiful in the ways that you do every single day.
But talk to me about the strategy of, of thi and how you identify a priority.
Yeah.
So lots of people, when I say, oh, I work for kee Toledo, Lucas County beautiful.
They're like, well, how do you do that?
Well, I'm like we're an organization of three.
There's only so much that we can do.
It is very small steps, but there is lots of research out there that says, when somebody does something good for the environment, it makes them feel good about themselves, and they want to do mor good things for the environment.
There's researc that says when an area is clean, it's easier to keep it that way.
If you roll up to an exi and there's garbage everywhere, well, that's one more, you know, McDonald's bag or whatever it might be.
Not everybody, but occasionally somebody will think that, you know consciously or subconsciously.
But when it's clean, when it's pristine and you can tell that the neighborhood takes pride in that area, you kind of get the idea that it's socially unacceptable to litter there.
And so really, the end result of Keep Toledo, Lucas County beautiful is to really change that mindset that it is socially unacceptable to litter anywhere in Toledo or Lucas County.
The people that do litter don't understand how socially unacceptable it is.
I think that everybody does it.
But not everybody does it.
Most people don't do it.
And everybody who who doesn't litter is, you know, shaking their fist at the person who's really it, though.
I mean is that what the research says?
What the research says?
I was in Canada two years ago that some of them brag and, it's pristine.
There's not a there's not speck of litter anywhere in it.
You you are impacted visually by it.
Like, wait a minute.
This is that actually true or is there a like somewhat of a, like residency bias, right.
That like I lived here so I was even comparing it to Toledo, but that entire area that we were in, which is the was it was it was beautiful.
The highways, everything.
There was not litter.
So is that truly the reason that people litter is that they think that everyone does it?
Or like throwing a cig one their little cigaret butt at the window isn't going to be the thing.
That's one thing, right?
So I mean, it is.
And I hear this a lo with both litter and recycling.
Oh, I visited such and such a country.
And you know, they did such an amazing job at recycling.
And it is really a mindse and a culture shift that somehow we need to get America to get on board with a little bit better.
Both the recycling and the.
We don't litter.
Why are we still littering?
Why is that still a thing?
You know, the I remember when you're a kid and you have that anti littering campaig and you saw people litter box, you saw people litter and you're like they should be put to death, right.
Same thing with the fire safety.
I do wonder and maybe you can provide a little more context to this.
Or maybe it's just repeating what we've just said.
What happens between the fourth grade experience and an adult where you just pitch it out?
Because everyone else is doing it, or it's a matter of convenience.
And can you talk a little bit about what what what the theory is there?
And also, the idea of this is me paraphrasing.
Admittedly, the mission of this is sort of keeping things beautiful for a community, right?
And thinking of others.
Sure.
Can you expand a little bit on that?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, it's important for a number of aspects focusing on the litter side of things.
It's got an environmental aspect.
So Keep America Beautiful estimates there's about 50 billion with a B, pieces of litter across roadways and waterways in the United States.
88% of it is a lot smaller than four inches.
So, I mean, you're driving down the road, you see the plastic bag, you see the water bottle.
But I promise if you get out and stop and look around, there' there's small litter everywhere.
For us, specifically, a little bit of rain, a little bit of water.
That small litter is moving.
It's getting into the mommy rivers.
Getting out into Lake Erie, 2500 tons of just plastic flows into Lake Erie every year.
I mean, we hear about whales eating plastic and birds and seals caught in plastic nets, but it's every body of water, the Great Lakes included.
So we need to take care of our our natural resources.
The Miami River, the Great Lakes keeps litter.
Lucas kind of beautiful as part of a no pun intended ecosystem of organizations that all are about sustainability because they're all completely tied to each other.
People that are working on the lake, peopl that are working on making sure, vacant lots are mowed.
All of these people join together to.
For that reason, I'm assuming, to form the Sustainability Commission.
Yes, yes.
And so and one of the events you have coming up May 9th is, is is about that is called Eco Fest.
And it's about how all of these organizations are connected.
Can you talk about some of those other partner organizations that are part of th Sustainability Commission?
Yeah.
So this was at the I mean, th Metroparks are amazing, right?
And so you guys are doing a great job of planting lots of trees as well.
But there's so many, onl so many, you know, metro parks or city parks or street trees that we can play, which is where keep Toledo Lucas County beautiful comes in to plant those, backyard trees i front yard trees for residents.
But, with the eco fest, I mean it's just a great celebration, an educational opportunity for for residents to come out to a metro park.
It's at Market Hall over glass, over at the Glass City Metro Park.
So get outside and enjoy that park.
But then also, there'll be lots of vendor tables there.
Of Lucas Oil and Water Conservation District and partner for clean streams.
And, you know, all these different organizations that are doing good work in the community and being sustainable.
But there's also going to be, vendors ther who are people who sell products that are sustainable.
So it's a great way to learn about composting or how to put up solar on your, your, you know, roof.
So if you want resources about how to reduce your impact on the environment, and not just reduce your impact, I mean, that's a mindset we need to get away from.
We should actually have a positive impact on the environment.
That's the only way to be sustainable.
And Eco Fest is the One-Stop hub to learn all the things that you need to do.
Another step and another opportunity for people to be involved in the work you're doing.
And join at the do it at th real kind of micro, local level.
Litter League is kicking off in a couple of weeks.
What is literally and how can people, sign up to be a part of it?
Yeah.
So we just wrapped u wrap it up, which is our one day litter cleanup focu just on on ramps and off ramps.
Got over 100 bags of litter from that event.
And then our signature summer long competition for litter is called the Litter League.
And that is baseball themed.
Actually, Fifth Third Bank donates tickets to all the volunteers who, we come back and do a Mud Hens game in September, but if you have a business, a corporation, a nonprofit, a faith based organization, or just a family or some friends who are tired of looking at litter, join the litter League and we will give you all th bags and supplies that you need, and then help you get the bags of litter picked up after your your cleanup.
But it's a fun competition.
Usually we get 30 to 40,000 pounds of litter every single summer through this program, which sounds like a lot 40,000 pounds of litter.
But if you drive around during the summer, you're still going to see litter out there.
So we need more.
We need to continue to grow that program.
But it's a great way to, you know, a doctor, local park for the street in front of your business or you can call us and say, where can I take my team to get the most litter?
We want to have the biggest bang for our buck, and we'll help them.
For teens families, rotary, you know, has a team.
I mean, there's different kind of groups that you can pull together to be to be a part of this.
Commissioner Lopez is able to incinerate some of the litter just by her angry face.
Is that accurate?
She actually came out to last year.
Literally.
She sure did.
And our ramp it up and did an amazing job.
Yep, yep.
She's selling ramps.
So I'll go that far.
Yeah, yeah.
Me too.
All right.
Adam, Cassi with Quita Louisiana.
Beautiful.
Thank you.
All right, it's now time for Greg as well.
For this.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
Sarcasm.
No, I can tell he's like family.
You'll be.
Just be yourself, right?
I tried to study ahead of time, but, you know, you can't think you can't.
You can't stop this.
And I' going to ask you for your friend just to practice.
I'm going to ask for rapid fire questions.
Greg is going to have you describe Toledo in one word.
Can't be beautiful.
Oh, okay.
And then you and Matt are going to list the nine best things in Toledo.
Okay.
All right, he's ready.
The last name is pronounce Mullen.
All right, here we go.
Question number one.
Which one boo have you always wanted to read but have never gotten around to?
So you're going to want like, a, what we want is good day.
Great.
Or, you know, Five Dysfunctions of a team or some sort of professiona help book aren't, you know, no.
So hop on.
No, we want you to just say you can't read.
Yeah.
No, no.
So, I was very, very saddened when when they canceled Wheel of Time on Prime Video.
And I'm like, oh, I'm gonna I'm going to finish the story through the books.
Yeah.
And then I looked it u and it's like a 16 series books.
I'm like, no, I, I'm a slow reader.
That's like a second marriage, right there.
I don't have time for that.
So, I would never get to finish the story.
That's my plug for Prime Video.
Bring it back, bring it back.
We love time.
We'll time, time.
Yeah.
Sam.
So that's my nerd side.
Okay, come on out the other side.
Yeah, buddy.
How do you celebrate birthdays?
Oh, my birthdays are like my children's birthdays.
Because they look very different, right?
So, I mean, for children's, children's birthdays, lots of planning and, something later at night and it's fun.
Them with my kids are actually getting old enough that I can drag the along.
Yeah, let her clean up.
Not that that' how I celebrate their birthdays.
Like, hey, let's go pick up litter.
Favorite.
Do good for the world.
Pick any on ramp.
You 100, right?
Right.
Yeah.
So yeah, we always do something fun for the kids.
And it's nic because I've got a 12 year old who's done the circuit of all the fun things that yo can do for for birthday parties.
So now the second one, who's six, I'm like, oh yeah, we've got this lineup of I already know where we're going for this birthday, this birthday, this birthday.
Yeah, yeah.
Good.
What's one item you could never live without?
You'll never live without?
Oh, I mean, If you like, it should be something interesting and not like your phone.
Right?
Right.
I felt, Yeah, I don't know.
Okay.
We can pass on that one.
Yeah, a car phone.
I have a car phone.
Car phone, smartphone.
Zach Morris, what's your favorite meal to cook?
Favorite.
Darn it, man.
So this is a hard question to because it's going back to the kids, though they'll they'll go to a friend's house or they'll go to school and they'll come home and I'm like, oh, I love lasagna.
Lasagna is great And I'm like, oh, I love this.
I'd like to cook lasagna.
That's a fun one to cook.
And then I'll cook it.
I'm like, I hate lasagna.
Yeah.
Or they'll, they'll go somewhere and they'll be like, meatloaf is amazing.
And then I'll like, cook meatloaf.
And they're like, no, no, i sounds like they do that again.
Golden Corral.
So I do like to cook.
And I like a little bit of a challenge.
So I'm game for anything.
That's a good.
Yeah.
Right.
But then, but then the problem is the children, they like chicken.
They.
And burgers and pasta.
Chicken fingers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
What is the number on word you would use to describe City of Toledo or the region.
Yeah.
So.
Oh like I in my mind Toledo was like this, you know, rubber band that's being pulled with ever great thing that we do and every progressive thing and movement forward and the metro park coming downtown and doing the whole Riverwal and like eventually it's gonna, you know, snap and propel us forward.
So like, primed, I think it' like, we're like, ready to go.
We are growing.
We are expanding.
We are doing great things.
I mean, we've got the zoo and the metro parks and the city parks and the imagination.
You know, all the things that you guys know.
But we are really ready and primed to just that's a great answer.
And.
All right.
Okay.
We've got nine of your favorite things about the city and or region nine.
Let's do this.
Oh, jeez.
I'll keep track.
Fire away.
So, I mean, like, father first.
So do enjoy all of the family oriented things in town.
So all our imagination stations and zoos and libraries and not what we did.
We went for whatnot.
Oh.
Oh.
That comes right.
3 or 4.
So you've got five in.
Oh, man.
Because I was having, like, big events and stuff, you know, fast g fast.
Okay.
You've got three, right.
So collaboration I think.
Oh, I want to elaborate like, nope.
Toledo Mindfulness Institute is a great clas C Davis and all your kids name.
What what are all your kids names?
You know, Wesley and Wyatt.
There you go.
Awesome.
Keep till beautiful people want more information.
Where can they find it?
Okay, tell Seaborg keep Toledo, Lucas County beautiful.
Awesome.
All right.
Thank you so much.
We're gonna take a break.
When we come back, we'll wrap up this Thursday edition.
I was like, what day of the week is Thursday?
Edition of the 419?
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Gretchen, let's rapid fire fly through.
What are the top five events?
Top five events.
Night market in the garden.
The biggest week in American birding.
Maker's Mark Saturday, eco Fest Saturday and the music of Lights Up.
This isn't funny.
Saturday is a great lineup.
I mean, it always has been a great big weekend, particularly compelling.
There's a lot local, right?
There's a lot of kind of craft and there's there's some arts in there as well.
And then you get some birds and then you got those birds and birds.
Those birds.
Yeah.
There it is.
We knew i was going to make its way.
And and of course, great work that.
Adam.
Cassie.
Yes, yes.
Beautiful.
Doing great time in the fall.
And we didn't quite ge to their fundraiser in August.
Green time in the 419.
You can find it at KTLA Seaborg.
And of course, sign up for Little Leagu right now to be a part of that.
Yeah.
It's great.
We did, do it with Toledo Rotary.
They've got a team every year.
We won't g that have other friends again.
But, you know, you guys can join, Toledo Rudder.
And then, Chris Aldridge, I mean, such a cool, like, very cool.
The birds in town is really good.
Except for my.
Yeah, but nobody's better.
I've got a comment I want to make it.
I'm not good.
I kind of keep that up for.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was good.
That was a good one.
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