
Journalists' Roundtable 07/26/24
Season 2024 Episode 150 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
It's Friday and that means it's time for another edition of the Journalists' Roundtable.
It's Friday and that means it's time for another edition of the Journalists' Roundtable. Joining us this week is Wayne Schutsky of KJZZ Radio, Camryn Sanchez of KJZZ Radio and Mary Jo Pitzl of The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com
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Journalists' Roundtable 07/26/24
Season 2024 Episode 150 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
It's Friday and that means it's time for another edition of the Journalists' Roundtable. Joining us this week is Wayne Schutsky of KJZZ Radio, Camryn Sanchez of KJZZ Radio and Mary Jo Pitzl of The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com
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TED: XHUB NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," IT'S THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE WEEK'S TOP STORIES INCLUDING SENATOR MARK KELLY'S CHANCE OF BEING VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS' VICE PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATE.
THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE IS NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."
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TED: GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."
I'M TED SIMONS.
IT'S FRIDAY AND THAT MEANS IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE.
JOINING US TONIGHT, WAYNE SCHUTSKY OF KJZZ RADIO, AND CAMRYN SANCHEZ OF KJZZ AND MARY JO PITZL OF "THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC" AND AZCENTRAL.COM.
LET'S FINISH OUT THE WEEK TALKING ABOUT IT AGAIN.
MARK KELLY, SEEMS LIKE THE LIST OF VICE PRESIDENTIAL POSSIBILITIES FOR KAMALA HARRIS KEEPS GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER, HE'S STILL THERE.
>> THE LIST IS TECHNICALLY AT 8, YOU CAN NARROW IT FURTHER THAN THAT.
HE CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES, GREAT BIO, GREAT STORY, AN ASTRONAUT, A VETERAN, COMING FROM A SWING STATE, MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SENATOR FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HE.
CHECKS BOXES THAT HARRIS IS LOOKING FOR A RUNNING MATE.
TED: NAVY COMBAT PILOT, SPEAKING FOR HARRIS, GABBY GIFFORDS THIS WEEK.
WHAT'S THE REASON IT HASN'T BEEN ANNOUNCED ALREADY?
>> ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I HEARD IS NAME RECOGNITION.
PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF ARIZONA MIGHT NOT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT HIM TO BE EXCITED ABOUT HIM AS A VP PICK, AND ANOTHER PROBLEM IS REPLACING HIM.
HE GOES AND WHO DO WE PICK TO FILL HIS SPACE IN THE STATE SENATE.
TED: TALK ABOUT THAT MARY JO.
IT'S QUITE A PROCESS BUT NOT UNFAMILIAR WITH IT.
>> NO, THIS PARTICULAR SENATE SEAT SEEMS TO BE INSTEAD OF A SIX-YEAR TERM, A TWO-YEAR TERM.
SENATOR McCAIN WON IT IN 2016, AND SERVED TWO YEARS BEFORE HE PASSED, AND THEN WITH JON KYLE, MARTHA McSALLY LOST TO MARK KELLY WHO FILLED OUT THE REMAINING TWO YEARS OF THAT TERM, AND KELLY WON THE SEAT IN HIS OWN RIGHT AND HE'S SERVED TWO YEARS.
WE SHALL SEE.
IF HE DOES LEAVE, IF, IF, IF, IF HE IS PICKED AS VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE, IF THAT TICKET WINS, THEN IT'S UP TO THE GOVERNOR TO APPOINT SOMEONE TO REPLACE HIM AND THAT PERSON MUST BE A DEMOCRAT.
TED: AND WAYNE, WHO COULD THAT PERSON BE?
WHAT ARE THE NAMES BEING THROWN ABOUT.
>> THAT'S THE TALK OF THE NEWSROOM, NOT A SUPER DEEP BENCH BUT NAMES LIKE GREG STANTON COME UP.
A LONGTIME SERVING CONGRESSMAN, FORMER PHOENIX MAYOR, SOMEONE LIKE MAYBE RUBEN GALLEGO IF HE DOESN'T WIN THE SENATE SEAT, YOU COULD SEE HIM APPOINTED TO THE OTHER SEAT.
TED: THE MARTHA McSALLY MODEL.
>> RIGHT, FROM THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE.
THOSE TWO ARE FAIRLY OBVIOUS CHOICES OR RAQUEL TERAN, SHE WAS ELECTED TO THE HOUSE AND ENDED UP FILLING A VACANCY IN THE SENATE.
TED: RUBEN GALLEGO MENTIONED AS WELL, YOU HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN WIN THE ELECTION IN TWO YEARS.
>> IF IT IS ROMERO, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND FIND SOMEONE TO REPLACE HER.
ALL OF THE LEVELS OF REPLACEMENTS.
>> ONE THING ABOUT KELLY, NOTHING HE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT.
I HEARD A POLITICAL COMMENTATOR SAYING HE'S BASICALLY THE SAME AGE AS KAMALA HARRIS.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMEBODY YOUNGER IN THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL SLOT.
HAVE YOU J.D.
VANCE AT AGE 39.
GOING DOWN ANOTHER GENERATION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WILL FACTOR INTO THE DECISION, THOUGH.
>> I WONDER, HE LOOKS LIKE A BULLDOG, LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOT IT IN HIM, DOES HE HAVE IT IN HIM TO BE RELENTLESSLY CRITICAL AND RELENTLESSLY PARTED.
IS THAT A CONCERN?
I THINK IT IS A CONCERN.
>> I HAVEN'T WATCHED HIM IN ACTION, WHEN YOU PILE IN THE SPACECRAFT, YOU'VE GOT TO STAY ON THAT ALL THE TIME.
TED: YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP AND J.D.
VANCE AND THEY'RE NOT SHY ABOUT THROWING EVERYTHING AGAINST THE WALL.
>> YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE, WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR HIS SEAT AGAINST BLAKE MASTERS, HE HELD HIS OWN IN THOSE DEBATES, AND BLAKE MASTERS NO SHRINKING VIOLET WHEN IT CAME TO THROWING THE PUNCHES IN THOSE DEBATES.
>> PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE WEEKEND, NONE OF US ARE READY FOR IT.
KARI LAKE, RANDY KENDRICK, APPARENTLY A LITTLE BIT OF A SPLIT.
FIRST OF ALL, WHO IS RANDY KENDRICK?
>> A PROMINENT ARIZONA REPUBLICAN AND WIFE OF THE ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS OWNER AND DOESN'T THINK LAKE CAN WIN AGAINST GALLEGO IF AND WHEN LAKE WINS AGAINST MARK LAMB AND URGING PEOPLE TO SUPPORT MARK LAMB INSTEAD OF KARI LAKE, THOUGH IT'S LATE IN THE GAME.
>> VERY LATE IN THE GAME.
GIVEN THE EARLY VOTING, WE HEARD THERE WERE 340,000 EARLY BALLOTS THAT HAD ALREADY COME BACK INTO MARICOPA COUNTY.
THE BIGGEST COUNTY, BUT IT'S STILL, LATE OR NOT, IT IS MAKING A STATEMENT WHEN A MAJOR BENEFACTOR WHO SUPPORTS CANDIDATES IS SWITCHING HORSES.
NOT A GOOD SIGN FOR KARI LAKE.
TED: WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE?
>> SEEMS TO BE HER ELECTABILITY, WHICH AGAIN, WOULD HAVE MADE A BIGGER DIFFERENCE IF SHE SENT OUT A WARNING TO FRIENDS EARLIER IN THE ELECTION.
SEEMS LIKE THE LAST MODEL WHEN SHE LOST TO GOVERNOR KATIE HOBBS, ISN'T ATTRACTING THE MODERATE REPUBLICAN TO AVOID ANOTHER STATEWIDE LOSS TO A DEMOCRAT.
IT'S NOT A DIFFERENCE OF DISLIKING LAKE'S OPINION.
PACs GAVE TO FAR RIGHT TUCSON AREA LAWMAKERS, BUT THEY FEEL THEY CAN WIN THE RACES VERSUS THEY DON'T THINK LAKE CAN WIN STATEWIDE.
>> IF PEOPLE ARE MADE AWARE, THEY WOULD PREFER MARK LAMB OVER LAKE.
SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE MORE AWARE, AND COULDN'T OVERCOME IT AND THESE ARE JUST THE FACTS THAT KARI LAKE CAN'T WIN AGAINST RUBEN GALLEGO.
IS THERE SOME SORT OF INTERNAL POLLING SUGGESTING LAMBES HAD A SHOT OR ARE YOU THROWING MONEY AT THE WIND HERE?
>> I DON'T THINK LAMB HAS A SHOT.
IT'S A TREND WHERE IN THE PRIMARIES, MAGA REPUBLICANS ARE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL BUT IN THE GENERAL, DEMOCRATS DO BETTER AGAINST MAGA REPUBLICANS THAN NONMAGA REPUBLICANS.
THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM.
AND I'VE HEARD DEMOCRATS, OPERATIVES SAY THEY HOPE THE MAGA REPUBLICANS WIN THE PRIMARIES BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY HAVE A BETTER SHOT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
TED: IF IT COMES DOWN TO GALLEGO AND LAKE, WHICH MOST THINK IT WILL, IS RANDY KENDRICK, TO USE A BASEBALL METAPHOR, SIT IN THE DUGOUT AND NOT PLAY?
>> I THINK SO.
SHE SENT THIS OUT TO A LOT OF HER FAN BASE, THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER BASES THAT RANDY KENDRICK CAN GET INVOLVED IN AND WELCOME AND NEED THE SUPPORT THAT SHE CAN GIVE.
IT'S NOT JUST ALL ABOUT THE U.S. SENATE, ALTHOUGH CLEARLY THAT'S A BIG ONE FOR THE REPUBLICANS.
>> THAT'S A BIG HIT AGAINST LAKE.
THAT'S A HIT.
>> YEAH, YOU CAN'T UNDERSTATE HOW MUCH MONEY THE KENDRICKS PUT NOT JUST INTO POLITICS IN THE REGION BUT ARIZONA.
I TOOK A QUICK LOOK TODAY, AND $10,000 TO THIS PAC, COUPLE THOUSAND OVER TO THIS CAMP, THESE ARE BIGTIME PLAYERS IN ALMOST EVERY REPUBLICAN RACE, COMPETITIVE REPUBLICAN RACE IN THE STATE.
TED: WAYNE, STICKING WITH YOU, I WANT TO GET OUT TO GLENDALE OR TUCSON OR SCOTTSDALE OR WHEREVER ALL THESE CANDIDATES ARE FROM OR RUNNING FOR CONGRESS AND DEBBIE LESKO'S SEAT.
BLAKE MASTERS ECHOED J.D.
VANCE, VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, SAYING LEADERS MUST BE MARRIED WITH CHILDREN.
HOW IS THAT GOING TO GO OVER IN THAT DISTRICT?
>> IT'S A VERY CONSERVATIVE DISTRICT, SO THERE'S A CHANCE THAT A FAMILY VALUES TYPE OF MESSAGE COULD DO WELL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT SPECIFIC MESSAGE FRAMED THAT WAY IS GOING TO PLAY ALL THAT GREAT.
YOU ARE DOING WHAT LAKE DID IN THE LAST CAMPAIGN, ESSENTIALLY TAKING A GOOD PORTION OF YOUR VOTER BASE AND SAYING WE DON'T WANT YOU.
I THINK IT'S JUST A VEILED ATTACK AT MAIN OPPONENT IN THE RACE, ABRAM HAMADEH, A SINGLE MAN WITH NO KIDS AND A WAY TO GLOM ONTO THE NATIONAL NARRATIVE AND POLLING AT THE SAME TIME.
TED: IT SHOWS MASTERS WITH A TINY BIT OF A LEAD NOW, THIS COULD CAMPAIGN COULD COME OUT THIS LATE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
>> I DON'T HAVE KIDS OR A CAT.
MAYBE I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO WEIGH IN.
TED: YOU HAVE NO SKIN IN THE GAME, APPARENTLY.
>> I HAVE NO SKIN IN THE GAME.
I HAVE A GUINEA PIG.
I THINK IT'S NOT THE BEST THING, SOMETHING DEMOCRATS HAVE JUMPED ONTO, MY GOD, IT'S OUTRAGEOUS THEY WOULD SAY THIS AND TO SEE VANCE'S COMMENTS AND DOUBLE DOWN ON A RACE WITH SO MANY OPPONENTS STRIKES ME AS A BAD IDEA.
TED: WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?
THOUGHTS?
>> IT'S A FIVE-PERSON RACE, THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE VOTERS CAN GO TO THAT WOULD CARRY THE CONSERVATIVE BANNER, WITHOUT HAVING TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE CHILDREN REALLY DON'T DESERVE TO HAVE A VOICE IN OUR PUBLIC DIALOGUE.
TED: CERTAINLY SHOULDN'T BE LEADERS.
>> AND IT'S INTERESTING IT'S COMING OUT JUST AS WE'RE SEEING J.D.
VANCE'S 2021 COMMENT ABOUT HOW CHILDLESS CAT WOMEN ARE RUNNING THE GOVERNMENT AND THAT'S WRONG BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT INVESTED IN ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE.
TED: YEAH, AND LAST POINT ON THIS.
THE DATA ORBITAL POLL CAME OUT AND MASTERS HAS A SLIGHT LEAD OVER HAMADEH, SIX POINTS OVER TOMA, FOUR OVER FRANKS.
IF YOU ARE MASTERS, YOU DON'T WANT TO WALK ON A BANANA PEEL.
BOY, OH, BOY, IS THERE INTERNAL POLLING SAYING GO WITH THIS?
THIS WORKS IN THIS DISTRICT.
>> I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST DRAWING TOO MANY POLLING JUST LIKE THE LAST FEW CYCLES.
POLLING IS SO MUCH LESS RELIABLE THAN IT USED TO BE.
ONCE YOU GET ON A FIVE-WAY RACE, IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO PREDICT BEHAVIOR.
SOMEONE MIGHT LIKE SOMEONE ONE DAY AND SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND JUMP OVER TO THE MOST SIMILAR CANDIDATE CAN YOU FIND.
WHEN YOU HAVE A FEW BUNCHED UP LIKE THAT EITHER AT THE MIDDLEOST TOP, THAT TELLS ME IT COULD GO EITHER WAY.
TED: IF IT COULD GO EITHER WAY, HE'S THE ONE COMING OUT.
>> YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT IF YOU HAVE A SLIM LEAD OR POTENTIALLY HAVE A SLIM LEAD THAT'S GOING TO LOSE YOU THAT TINY ADVANTAGE.
TED: JUSTINE WADSACK, I WOULD ASK WHO IS JUSTINE?
I THINK WE ALL KIND OF KNOW WHO JUSTINE WADSACK IS, OUR AUDIENCE DOES AS WELL.
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HER AND HER TESLA?
>> THE TUCSON SENTINEL BROKE THE STORY, SHE WAS PULLED OVER FOR SPEEDING IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, AND THE OFFICER SAID SHE WAS GOING 71 MILES PER HOUR IN A 35 ZONE IN TUCSON, AND SHE COULDN'T BE TICKETED AT THE TIME BECAUSE LEGISLATORS HAVE THIS LEGISLATIVE IMMUNITY.
BUT WHEN THE SESSION ENDED, THEY COULD DO IT.
THEY CONTACTED HER AND SAID YOU NEED TO SIGN YOUR CITATION AND SHE REFUSED.
THIS IS ACCORDING TO POLICE DOCUMENTS AND SHE RESPONDED ON FACEBOOK AND SAID I WAS NEVER SPEEDING AND I DON'T THINK I'M ABOVE THE LAW, BUT IT'S LED TO REPERCUSSIONS THAT CAN YOU TALKED ABOUT.
TED: CALLED IT POLITICAL PERSECUTION.
>> YES, SHE SAID THAT WHEN TUCSON POLICE CONTACTED HER TO SAY WE NEED TO YOU COME DOWN AND SIGN THIS TICKET, SHE IS TAKING THAT VERY PERSONALLY.
WE'LL SEE.
I KEEP CHECKING THE COURT RECORDS TO SEE IF THE SUMMONS SHOWED UP IN THE COURT RECORDS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TUCSON CITY COURT.
A LOT OF THE REACTION TO THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE SPEEDING BUT ABOUT THE KIND OF CAR SHE'S DRIVING BECAUSE IT'S AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
SHE, IN A FACEBOOK POST, FELT COMPELLED TO THE FACT SHE HAS THREE GAS-POWERED VEHICLES, AND WE'RE ALL LEARNING A LESSON THAT DRIVING FASTER DOESN'T GET YOU THERE -- DOESN'T HELP YOUR FUEL SITUATION WHETHER IT'S GAS OR ELECTRONS.
TED: AND SHE ALSO CLAIMED THAT THE OFFICER TRYING TO GIVE THE CITATION, SHE HUNG UP ON THE OFFICER AS WELL.
AND TUCSON POLICE, SHE HAD ENDORSEMENT FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT DOWN THERE AND THEY'RE SAYING NOT ANYMORE.
>> THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, A WIDE ORGANIZATION, AND THEY PULLED IT BECAUSE THEY SAID THE WAY SHE IS FRAMING THIS AS POLITICAL PERSECUTION, THEY'RE SAYING THE OFFICERS WERE DOING THEIR JOB, YOU WERE GOING 71 MILES AN HOUR IN A 35-MILE-AN-HOUR ZONE?
TED: YEAH.
>> HOW IS THAT POLITICAL, UNLESS YOU'RE ALLEGING THAT THE OFFICERS LIED ABOUT THE SPEED THEY WERE MOVING, YOU ARE ALLEGEDLY LYING ABOUT THE SPEED.
>> THEN SHE WAS RACING HOME EASTBOUND TO A HOME SHE AND HER HUSBAND DO OWN IN WHAT'S CALLED THE SAM HUGHES NEIGHBORHOOD OF TUCSON, WHICH IS IN A DIFFERENT LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT THAN HER HOME IN LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT 17, SO IT'S REVIVED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE DOES SHE REALLY LIVE?
SHE DEFENDED THAT SAYING THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH OWNING THREE HOMES, BUT MY HOME IS UP IN VERANO.
TED: I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD BE KNOCKING ON THAT DOOR.
[ LAUGHTER ] >> I'M SORRY.
A PRIMARY AGAINST VINCE LEACH.
THIS COULD BE A FACTOR IN THAT RACE?
>> IT'S ROUGH TIMING WITH THE ELECTION COMING UP SO SOON FOR THIS TO BE ALL OVER THE NEWS, PRESUMABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TUCSON ARE HEARING ABOUT THIS AND MAYBE NOT APPRECIATIVE OF IT.
LEECH LOST TO WADSACK IN A SURPRISE LAST TIME AROUND AND OUT FOR REVENGE, SO HE'S BEEN CAMPAIGNING VERY, VERY HARD AGAINST HER, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THIS WON'T AFFECT PEOPLE'S VOTES.
>> BUT TO YOUR POINT ABOUT TIMING, AS WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT ANOTHER RACE, THIS HAS COME OUT IN THE LAST WEEK, SO AGAIN, IF THERE'S A LOT OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS, THE RACE MIGHT ALREADY BE DECIDED.
>> THE WING OF THE PARTY THAT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO VOTE IN PERSON.
WHOOPS.
TED: INTERESTING.
GOT TO DO MATH THERE.
WAY TOO MUCH TO DO.
MARY JO, STICK WITH YOU, REGARDING THE ABORTION MEASURE AND THE WORDING.
WE'VE SEEN THIS OVER THE YEARS WHERE THE WORDING ON THE MEASURE IS FOUGHT OVER TOOTH AND NAIL, COMMA AND SEMI COLON.
WHAT WAS THE FIGHT ON THIS ONE AND WHAT DID THE JUDGE RULE TODAY?
>> THE LANGUAGE THAT GOES INTO THE PUBLICITY PAMPHLET THAT IS SENT OUT TO EVERY VOTER FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION AND THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL IS CHARGED BY LAW TO COME UP WITH NEUTRAL, IMPARTIAL LANGUAGE THAT DEFINES WHAT THE VARIOUS BALLOT PROPOSITIONS DO.
THEY VOTED, THE PANEL IS MADE UP OF LAWMAKERS AND A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, THEY VOTED TO SUPPORT LANGUAGE THAT KEEPS UNBORN HUMAN BEING IN THE BILL, IN THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THIS ABORTION ACCESS FOR ALL WOULD DO.
THE DEMOCRATS OBJECTED AND SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU SHOULD USE FETUS, IT'S A MEDICAL TERM, A TECHNICAL TERM.
THE DISCUSSION WENT ON.
THE THOUGHT WAS WE USE FETUS IN ONE PART OF THE DESCRIPTION, WE'LL USE UNBORN HUMAN BEING.
THE ABORTION ACCESS PEOPLE SUED, WENT BEFORE A JUDGE, AND TODAY HE RULED THAT UNBORN HUMAN BEING IS NOT AN IMPARTIAL TERM.
TED: THE CITY WAS PACKED WITH EMOTION AND PARTISAN MEANING.
>> THIS IS THE EXACT LANGUAGE THAT APPEARS IN OUR EXISTING 15-WEEK ABORTION BAN, THEREFORE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED NEUTRAL.
THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE USING IT.
THE POINT THAT ATTORNEYS FOR THE CAMPAIGN MADE AND WAS ECHOED IN THE JUDGE'S ORDER IS THAT LAWMAKERS AREN'T REQUIRED TO USE IMPARTIAL LANGUAGE IN THE LAWS THEY PASS, IN THE BILLS THEY WRITE.
ONLY REQUIRED TO USE THAT IN THIS PAMPHLET.
ARGUING BECAUSE IT'S A LAW MAKES IT IMPARTIAL DOESN'T FLY.
TED: WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
>> THAT'S UNKNOWN BECAUSE THE JUDGE DIDN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO USE THE WORD FETUS, THEY ARE BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF HOW INTERESTING IT WOULD BE IF THEY CAME UP WITH SOMETHING CONSIDERED TO BE POLITICALLY CHARGED AND HAVE TO GO BACK TO COURT AGAIN.
I DON'T IMAGINE THEY WANT TO DO THAT.
TED: WHAT IS THE PROCESS?
>> WELL, I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT SPEAKER TOMA AND PRESIDENT PETERSON WERE LOOKING AT APPEALING THIS, THE JUDGE'S RULING.
INSTEAD OF HAVING THE 14-LAWMAKER PANEL GO BACK TO WORK RIGHT AWAY, YOU APPEAL THIS AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET A COURT TO OVERTURN THAT AND PRESERVE THE LANGUAGE OF UNBORN HUMAN BEING.
>> MEANWHILE, MARCHING TOWARD THE DEADLINE TO PRINT THESE THINGS.
I HAPPENED TO GROW UP IN A PRINT SHOP, IT TAKES TIME TO GET THE PAMPHLETS TOGETHER AND OUT THE DOOR, EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO NEED A RULING WHAT THE LANGUAGE HAS TO BE.
TED: THIS IS OUT OF LEFT FIELD BUT DOES THIS GIVE MORE ATTENTION TO THIS MEASURE?
DOES THIS HELP EITHER SIDE?
>> I WAS TRY TONG WHY THEY BROUGHT THIS CHALLENGE TO BEGIN WITH.
TOM RYAN TOLD OUR STATION TODAY WHETHER THE WORDING IS FETUS OR UNBORN HUMAN BEING, WHOEVER IS FOR IT IS FOR IT, WHOEVER IS AGAINST IT IS AGAINST IT.
THE WORDS DOESN'T CHANGE IT.
THE ABORTION FOLKS NEED TO BE SEEN AS FIGHTING TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO GET THIS PASSED.
THAT'S WHY THEY TOOK THIS TO COURT AND ASK GIVE THEM A LITTLE PRESS COVERAGE.
TED: CAMRYN, MEETING AT THE REDEEMER BIBLE CHURCH, A FIGHT BROKE OUT.
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW THEY WOULD SAY A FIGHT BROKE OUT.
THERE WAS A HEAD BUTTING INCIDENT WHICH ONE PERSON HEAD BUTTED ANOTHER PERSON?
WHAT APPEARED TO BE A NOT TOO AGGRESSIVE MANNER, BUT NOW IT HAS BECOME I THINK A COURT CASE.
TED: YEAH, WAS IT A HEAD BIT?
>> IF YOU WATCH THE VIDEO, IT'S A LITTLE BINK.
A HEAD BOOP.
PERSON WHO GETS HIT DOESN'T SAY, OW, AND FALL TO THE GROUND, THEY JUST STAND THERE.
>> AND THEN THEY FILED A COMPLAINT.
TED: A LITTLE MORE THAN A BOOP.
>> IT WAS THE HUSBAND OF A CANDIDATE RUNG FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, MANY REPUBLICANS WHO WANT TO BE ELECTED TO THE HOUSE OUT OF THE DISTRICT.
ONE OF THE INCUMBENTS BASICALLY MADE A COMMENT INSINUATING THAT THIS COMPETITOR'S SON IS TIED TO THE GILBERT GOONS, THE WELL-KNOWN CRIMINAL GANG OUT THERE WHICH THEY SAID IS NOT TRUE, WHICH LED TO SHOUTING, KNOCK IT OFF.
THE BROTHER-IN-LAW CONFRONTED THE BOSS OF THE LOCAL PARTY OUT THERE.
YELLING, TELLING THEM TO LEAVE, AND WE GET THE FACE BOOP.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CANDIDATE INVOLVED LEILANI HUNSAKER SAID THIS IS MY HUSBAND STANDING UP FOR OUR SON.
THIS IS UNTRUE.
HER SON IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE GILBERT GOONS.
SO LEAVE THAT ALONE.
WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH THIS AFFECTS VOTERS.
AGAIN, THIS IS ALL HAPPENING IN THE LAST TEN DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION.
>> AS WE KNOW FROM TODAY'S SHOW, I DON'T HAVE A KID.
IF I HAD A KID AND MY KID WAS ACCUSED OF BEING IN A VIOLENT GANG, I DON'T KNOW IF HEAD BUTTING THE ACCUSER WAS THE WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.
>> AND THE GILBERT PD ACTED QUICKER, THEY BROUGHT CHARGES AGAINST THE HUSBAND AND THE BROTHER-IN-LAW, TRESPASSING, DISORDERLY CONDUCT AND ASSAULT.
TED: AT THE REDEEMER BIBLE CHURCH.
>> YEAH, AND THIS COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
IT'S A FIVE-CANDIDATE FIELD FOR TWO LEGISLATIVE SEATS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.
TUNE IN ON TUESDAY NIGHT.
TED: SPEAKING OF TUESDAY NIGHT.
WE GOT THROUGH EVERYTHING QUICK, THAT'S GOOD.
I WANTED TO GET THOUGHTS FROM EACH OF YOU ABOUT TUESDAY NIGHT, AND WHAT YOU'RE WATCHING FOR SPECIFICALLY, ARE THEY RACES, TURNOUT.
MARY JO, START WITH YOU.
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT MOST FOR TUESDAY?
>> WILL IT BE A SMOOTH ELECTION?
TED: INTERESTING.
>> WHAT KIND OF ISSUE WILL TURN UP?
WILL THERE BE EQUIPMENT PROBLEMS?
WILL THERE BE LONG LINES THAT DON'T HAVE MAYBE ACCESS TO AIR CONDITIONING RIGHT AWAY.
SO SOME OF THE OPERATION.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE FAIRLY SMOOTH.
PRIMARIES ARE LOWER TURNOUT, THE PRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCE ELECTION IN MARCH, NICE WEATHER, WENT SMOOTHLY.
THAT'S TOP OF MIND.
BUT I'M FOCUSED ON THE LEGISLATURE AND I'M VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE HOUSE RACE UP IN EASTERN ARIZONA.
LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT 7.
YOU HAVE, MY GOSH, FIVE OR SIX REPUBLICANS RUNNING FOR TWO SEATS, INCLUDING STEVE SLAYTON, HE RUNS THE TRUMP STORE UP THERE.
IT'S PROVEN, HE HAS LIED ABOUT HIS MILITARY RECORD.
THAT HAS NOT DETERRED SUPPORT FOR HIM FOR PEOPLE LIKE SENATOR WENDY ROGERS, THE SENATOR FOR THAT DISTRICT.
HE IS RUNNING AGAINST INCUMBENT DAVID MARSHALL, TRYING TO GET ANOTHER TERM.
WALT BLACKMAN WHO WAS A STATE REP, STEPPED ASIDE AND TRY FOR ANOTHER TERM AND TWO OTHER PEOPLE.
WE'LL SEE HOW THAT ONE SORTS OUT, AND HOW MUCH THE CLAIMS OF STOLEN VALOR, A BOTCHED MILITARY RECORD OR MISREPRESENTED MILITARY RECORD PLAYS INTO THIS, AND WILL THERE BE ANY IMPACT ON WENDY ROGERS, WHO ALSO HAS A COMPETITIVE SIDE.
TED: INTERESTING.
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT FOR TUESDAY?
WHAT GRABS YOUR INTEREST?
>> BESIDE THE BIG CONGRESSIONAL SENATE RACES.
COUNTY.
THIS YEAR THERE ARE INTERESTING COUNTY RACES, WATCHING COUNTY SUPERVISOR RACES AS WELL AS THE RECORDER, SHERIFF AND ATTORNEY HERE IN MARICOPA COUNTY.
ESPECIALLY I WOULD SAY RECORDER BECAUSE STEPHEN RICHER IS THIS NATIONAL FIGURE WITH ALL OF THESE CLAIMS OF ELECTION FRAUD, OF COURSE, AND THEN HIM GOING UP LAKE WITH THE DEFAMATION LAWSUIT, AND WE'RE INTERESTED TO SEE IF HE CAN BEAT OUT JUSTIN HEAP COMING FROM THE MAGA CROWD TO CHALLENGE HIM.
TED: KEEP AN EYE ON THE LOCAL AS FAR AS MARICOPA COUNTY IS CONCERNED.
WHAT DO YOU GOT, WAYNE?
>> I PROMISE I DIDN'T COORDINATE THIS WITH MARY JO BEFORE.
THE WENDY ROGERS RACE, I'M KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT.
SHE'S RUNNING AGAINST DAVID COOK, INCUMBENT REPRESENTATIVE WHO HAS A LOT LESS MONEY THAN WENDY ROGERS BECAUSE SHE'S A PROLIFIC FUND-RAISER.
THE SMART MONEY WAS ON RODGERS GIVEN THAT DISADVANTAGE, BUT BECAUSE OF THIS SLAYTON ISSUE AND ROGERS' WILLINGNESS TO STICK WITH HIM, YOU ARE SEEING A LOT OF OUTSIDE SPENDING AGAINST HER, WHICH IS STARTING TO CLOSE THE SPENDING GAP THAT COOK HAD.
HE DOESN'T HAVE TO SPEND OUTSIDE OF HIS OWN CAMPAIGN BECAUSE GROUPS ARE AGAINST HER.
I'M INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.
TED: ANYTHING ELSE COME TO MIND?
>> SO MANY THINGS.
TED: YES, BUT SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY BUBBLES TO THE TOP?
>> I WANT TO SEE HOW ABE HAMADEH, MARK FINCHEM, KARI LAKE, WHO ARE ARGUING AND FIGHTING THAT 2022 RACES FOR DIFFERENT OFFICES WERE STOLEN, THEY'RE FLAWED.
TIED UP IN COURT.
I WANT TO SEE HOW THEY FARE RUNNING FOR NEW SEATS.
AND THE OTHER THING I'M CURIOUS HOW MANY RACES GO TO A RECOUNT.
TED: CD8?
CD1?
THAT'S NATURAL.
>> WAYNE'S ON CD8.
I'M ON CD1.
THAT'S A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY, CURIOUS TO SEE, I DON'T KNOW.
TED: TURNOUT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
GOOD?
BAD?
INDIFFERENT?
IT'S A PRIMARY.
A PRESIDENTIAL AREA.
>> IN CD1, YOU HAVE A LOT OF ENGAGED VOTERS WHO TURN OUT MUCH HIGHER AND A COMPETITIVE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY OUT THERE WITH FIVE CANDIDATES IN THAT RACE?
FIVE, SIX?
AND THERE'S A LOT OF PERSONAL ATTACKS GOING ON OVER THERE.
TED: YES.
>> NOT JUST FROM THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES BUT THE SURROGATES IN THE COMMUNITY.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF ENGAGED VOTERS GOING TO BAT FOR THEIR GUY.
TED: LOTS TO WATCH AND WE'LL HAVE OUR ELECTION SPECIAL ON "ARIZONA HORIZON" AS EVERYONE IS COVERING.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
I'M TED SIMONS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
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