
Journalists' Roundtable
Season 2024 Episode 25 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
Fontes Sued, Election Concerns, Rental Tax, Leezah Resigns, Hammadeh vs. Masters, Horne
It's Friday, and that means it's time for another edition of Journalists' Roundtable. To discuss this week's top stories we were joined by Laurie Roberts of Arizona Republic & azcentral.com, Camryn Sanchez of KJZZ, and Howie Fischer of Capitol Media Services.
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Journalists' Roundtable
Season 2024 Episode 25 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
It's Friday, and that means it's time for another edition of Journalists' Roundtable. To discuss this week's top stories we were joined by Laurie Roberts of Arizona Republic & azcentral.com, Camryn Sanchez of KJZZ, and Howie Fischer of Capitol Media Services.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> Ted: COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, IT'S THE JOURNALIST'S ROUNDTABLE AND WE'LL LOOK AT THE WEEK'S TOP STORIES INCLUDING LEGISLATIVE LEADERS FILING SUIT AGAINST THE SECRETARY OF STATE OVER THE STATE ELECTION'S MANUAL.
THAT'S NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."
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>> Ted: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.
I'M TED SIMONS.
IT'S FRIDAY AND THAT MEANS IT TIME FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF THE JOURNALIST'S ROUND TABLE AND WE HAVE LAURIE ROBERTS FROM AZCENTRAL.COM AND HOWIE FISHER AND CAMRYN SANCHEZ.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
I WANT TO GET TO THE LAWSUIT HERE IN A SECOND, BUT I WANT TO START, LAURIE, WITH THE IDEA OF KERN DECIDING TO OPEN AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT?
>> SENATOR KERN, AS WE LIKE TO CALL HIM, "FAKE LECTOR KERN," HE DECIDED TO OPEN AN INVESTIGATION INTO ATTORNEY GENERAL KRIS MAYES FOR WHAT HE CONSIDERS QUESTIONABLE MOVES AND NEVER SET OUT WHAT THOSE MOVES ARE OTHER THAN A VAGUE REFERENCE TO LOCAL DECISIONS TO PROSECUTE LOCAL OFFICIALS.
THAT'S A CLEAR REFERENCE TO THE COCHISE COUNTY SUPERVISOR TO CERTIFY THE ELECTION IN 2022, THROWING EVERYTHING INTO A CURVE AND NOW, KRIS MAYES IS PROSECUTING THEM.
>> THERE WERE MANY COMPLAINTS INCLUDING THE FACT THAT SHE HASN'T TAKEN OFF AFTER THE GOVERNOR FOR HER LITTLE MANEUVER ON THE DIRECTOR NOMINATIONS.
SHE'S CHANGED POSITION AGAINST THE STATE, WHICH IS NOT UNUSUAL.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE SAVE WOMEN SPORT'S ACT, MARK BRNOVICH AND SHE SAID NOT DEFENSIBLE.
TOM HORNE WANTS TO DEFEND IT, FINE.
AND THE WHOLE ABORTION CASE WHERE BRNOVICH SAID WE THINK THE LAW FROM 1864 IS THE ONE THAT APPLIES AND MAYES SAID, NO THE RECENT 15-WEEK LAW.
THE REAL BOTTOM LINE IS THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL KRIS MAYES IS LOOKING INTO THE QUOTE, UNQUOTE, FAKE ELECTORS AND THEN THE TWO ELECTORS VOTING FOR DONALD TRUMP.
THERE WERE 10,457,000 VOTES THAT SAID NO.
>> Ted: SENATOR KERN AMONG THOSE ELECTORS.
THEY SAY DEMOCRATS ARE CALLING IT THEATER AND HE'S STILL RUNNING FOR CONGRESS, LAST I HEARD, BUT THIS GOT OUT OF COMMITTEE, DIDN'T IT?
>> SURE, REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED LEGISLATURE WITH REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED COMMITTEES.
IT'S NOT SUPER SURPRISING WHEN THE WHOLE COCHISE COUNTY LET DOWN AND SOME WOULD TAKE ACTION AGAINST MAYES AND THAT'S THIS ACTION BEING TAKEN.
>> I THINK THEY'RE WORRIED.
IF YOU NOTICE THIS WEEK, TYLER BOYER, ANOTHER ONE OF THE FAKE ELECTORS FROM ARIZONA AND EMPLOYEE OF TURNING POINT U.S.A.
PUT A RESOLUTION AND SUGGESTED A RESOLUTION SAYING, LOOK, YOU ARE THE ONES WHO CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA AND WE WANT YOU TO COVER OUR LEGAL BILLS, IF, IN FACT, LEGAL BILLS COME AND SIGNALS SOMETHING IS COMING DOWN THE LINE.
>> Ted: HOW FAR DOES THIS GO?
I MEAN, DEMOCRATS ARE CALLING THIS POLITICAL THEATER AND HOW BIG OF A PRODUCTION COULD THIS BE?
>> WE'LL HAVE SPONSORS AND DANCING GIRLS AND THE WHOLE ROUTINE HERE BECAUSE LAWMAKERS AND COMMITTEE CHAIRS DO HAVE CERTAIN POWERS.
THEY CAN SUBPOENA PEOPLE AND THEY CAN ASK FOR WITNESSES TO COME IN AND SUBPOENA DOCUMENTS AND THEY CAN HOLD HEARINGS AND, AGAIN, THEY CONTROL THE AGENDA.
THEY CONTROL THE NARRATIVE AND SO, ANYTHING THAT ANTHONY KERN AND SOME THE FELLOW REPUBLICANS SAY THAT KRIS MAYES IS NOT BEING A GOOD SOLDIER EVEN THOUGH SHE'S INDEPENDENTLY ELECTED, SOMEHOW THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
WHERE DOES IT GO FROM THERE?
I THINK HE'S HOPING TO TARNISH DEMOCRATS AS LAURIE POINTS OUT, ILL-FATED EFFORT TO BE THE CONGRESSMAN FROM CD8.
>> Ted: WILL THIS OCCUR AND WILL WE SEE YET ANOTHER SHOW DOWN THERE?
[ Laughter ] >> THERE'S A NEVER-ENDING STREAM OF SHOWS.
>> Ted: SO EXPECT IT.
>> SURE.
>> Ted: LET'S MOVE ON TO THE SENATE PRESIDENT AND HOUSE SPEAKER BASICALLY SAYING SECRETARY OF STATE, ADRIAN FONTES, OVERSTOPPED THIS AUTHORITY AND WHAT IS THIS MANUAL ALL ABOUT?
>> A BIG DENSE BOOK THAT'S BORING TO US BUT ALL OF THE RULES TO HOW WE'LL RUN THE ELECTIONS AND HAS TO BE UPDATED REGULARLY.
SO WE HAVE A DEMOCRAT, THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, AND WE HAD A SIMILAR ISSUE COME UP WHEN HOBBS WAS THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND REPUBLICANS WERE COMPLAINING WHAT SHE WANTED TO BE IN THE MANUAL AND NOW REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING IT IS PUSHING ADRIAN FONTES AGENDA AND THINGS THAT ARE CONTEMPORARY TO WHAT THE LAW IS.
AGAIN, IT'S SOMEWHAT TARGETED AT SUPERVISORS AND SAYING, YOU HAVE TO CANVAS THE ELECTIONS OR WE'LL MOVE ON WITHOUT YOU.
>> Ted: IT GOES BACK TO COCHISE COUNTY, DOESN'T IT?
>> I KNOW YOU'RE SHOCKED BUT STATE LAW TRUMPS THE PROCEDURE'S MANUAL AND HERE IS WHAT THE LAW SAYS AND HOW WE FILL IN THE GAPS AND HERE IS HOW YOU COMPLY.
BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO ISSUES, THE COMPLAINTS HAVE TO DO WITH HOW QUICKLY COUNTY SUPERVISORS HAVE TO CANVAS THE ELECTION.
ADRIAN FONTES SAYS JUST BLESS THE NUMBERS AND THE STATE WILL CERTIFY THEM.
AND THE ATTORNEY PRESIDENT SAID, NO, THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO BE SATISFIED AND THEY HAVE MORE TIME.
WHAT MAKES THIS PARTICULARLY CRUCIAL, YOU HAVE A DEADLINE SET BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR WHEN WE HAVE TO GET OUR ELECTORS SENT TO WASHINGTON AND IF WE DON'T GET THEM SENT THERE BY DECEMBER 11th , GUESS WHAT?
ARIZONA DOESN'T COUNT.
>> Ted: I THINK THE LAWSUIT FOCUSES ON THE IDEA OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE CREATING POLICY AND THEY'RE SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THAT WHEN YOU'RE SECRETARY OF STATE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS IDEA OF SUPERVISORS IN COCHISE COUNTY NOT TURNING IN THE RESULTS.
>> ULTIMATELY, I GUESS, IF THE COURTS ACCEPT THIS LAWSUIT, THEY'LL HAVE TO DECIDE.
THE BOOK HAS TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND IF THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THE LAW, THEN THE BOOK SHOULDN'T COUNT.
BUT IF THE BOOK DOESN'T COUNT, THEY GO BACK FOUR YEARS.
SOME RULES THAT ARE IN DISPUTE ARE WHEN AND HOW TO THROW PEOPLE OFF OF THE EARLY BALLOT LIST, WHEN AND HOW YOU CAN THROW VOTERS OFF OF THE VOTER ROLLS IF A THIRD PARTY SAYS THAT PERSON ISN'T A CITIZEN AND HOW YOU DO IT AND HOW MUCH CHECKING THERE HAS TO BE.
THAT WILL AFFECT REAL PEOPLE AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY GET IT RIGHT.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS TO GET THIS INTO COURT THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING, JUDGES LIKE THE PLAINTIFFS IN THE CASE TO BE SOMEBODY AFFECTED BY THIS.
THIS IS ALL ACADEMIC.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS SAYING WE'RE CHARGED WITH NOT PROMPTLY CERTIFYING THE ELECTION.
THESE ARE TWO ELECTED OFFICIALS COMPLAINING AGAINST A THIRD ELECTED OFFICIAL HE'S INTERPRETING WRONG AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, JUDGES SAY COME BACK WHEN YOU HAVE A REAL CASE.
>> Ted: IT DISENFRANCHISES THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
IF YOU IMPLEMENT THESE RULES THAT THEY DON'T HAVE STANDING OR WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?
>> YOU TELL THE COUNTIES HAVE TO HAVE IT IN OR WE WILL NOT COUNT IT AND THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO DO IT.
AND THEY HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
LET'S GO BACK TO THE DECEMBER 11th DEADLINE TO GET STUFF BACK TO WASHINGTON.
IF THEY DO GET MORE TIME IF A JUDGE AGREES, WE'RE IN A CRUNCH AS IT IS AND WE'VE GOT THIS NEW LAW, MORE RECOUNTS THAT MEANS AFTER ALL THAT OCCURS, YOU CAN'T HAVE THE RECOUNT UNTIL AFTER THE STATE CERTIFICATION.
IF WE DON'T MAYBE THAT DECEMBER 11th DEADLINE, THE ENTIRE STATE IS DISENFRANCHISED WHICH MEANS NONE OF THE VOTES COUNT.
>> Ted: JUST IN GENERAL, TIMING CONCERNS, SOMEONE HAS TO GET DONE QUICK AND TELL US ABOUT THE PROBLEM, HOW IT EXISTS NOW AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE?
>> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE RECOUNT ISSUE NOW?
>> Ted: YES.
>> THERE WAS A BILL PASSED THROUGH THE REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED STATE LEGISLATURE AND IT WIDENS THE MARGIN OF VICTORY FOR WHICH AN AUTOMATIC RECOUNT IS REQUIRED.
IF SOMEONE WINS BY A FEW VOTES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RECOUNT AND WITHIN A WIDER MARGIN AND MORE RECOUNTS HAPPEN.
THE COUNTY DETERMINES THEY NEED AN EXTRA 19 DAYS BEFORE THE PRIMARY AND GENERAL TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE EXTRA RECOUNTS.
SO THEY SAID THIS MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO AND WE NEED HELP AND THE LEGISLATURE HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING TO FIX IT AND WE'RE COMING UP ON THESE TIME CRUNCHES.
THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS BECAUSE UOCAVA VOTERS CAN BE AFFECTED.
>> Ted: YOU'LL HAVE TO MOVE UP THE PRIMARY DATES.
>> THEY'RE SAYING WE NEED 19 EXTRA DATES AND WE WANT YOU TO MOVE UP THE PRIMARY AND WHAT IS IT, AUGUST 6th, A TUESDAY.
>> THE EIGHTH.
>> WE CAN MAKE UP THE REST OF THE 19 DAYS LIKE CURING BALLOTS AND YOU HAVE FIVE DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION TO CURE OR CHECK ON THOSE BALLOTS WHERE THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT SOMEONE'S SIGNATURE ON AN EARLY BALLOT AND YOU CALL THE PERSON AND SAY, IS THIS YOUR SIGNATURE AND DID YOU SEND IN A BALLOT AND SIGN IT AND THAT'S CALLED "CURING THE BALLOT."
BUT THEY'RE FIVE BUSINESS DAYS AND THEY CAN PRESS THAT TO FIVE CALENDAR DAYS AND SAVE A FEW DAYS.
THEY CAN SAVE THINGS HER AND THERE AND THE COUNTIES SAY THAT IT WON'T WORK IF WE CAN'T MOVE UP THIS ELECTION, THE FURTHER ONE, AND IF WE DON'T MAKE THE DECISION BY NEXT FRIDAY, WHICH WOULD BE FEBRUARY 9th, WE'RE IN A WORLD OF TROUBLE.
>> THAT'S JUST THE POINT BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS TIED TO EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU BACK OFF A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS TO GET TO THE PRIMARY AND TO WHAT SHE CALLS THE OVERSEAS BALLOTS FOR MILITARY AND HOW MANY DAYS THOSE HAVE TO GO OUT.
YOU NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF NOTICE WHEN THE FILING DEADLINE IS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RUN IN THE PRIMARY.
AS LAURIE POINTS OUT, YOU HAVE A REAL PROBLEM HERE IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THAT.
THE GOVERNOR SAID SHE'S NOT INTERESTED IN MOVING THE PRIMARY AND NOT JUST A PROBLEM IN TERMS OF THE ACTION BY THE REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS, BUT THE GOVERNOR OPPOSED FOR WHATEVER REASON SHE MAY HAVE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HIT THE FAN.
>> IF THEY DON'T DO SOMETHING AND MAKE UP THOSE 19 DAYS, HOWEVER THEY WANT TO MAKE THEM UP, THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TIME TO SEND OUT BALLOTS TO MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY AND VOTERS WHO ARE OVERSEAS.
AUTOMATICALLY DISENFRANCHISE THOSE PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO VOTE FOR PRESIDENT.
FURTHERMORE, IF FOR SOME REASON WE CAN'T MAKE UP THE 17 DAYS, I THINK THEY HAVE TO HAVE BETWEEN THE PRIMARY AND THE GENERAL TO DO THE RECOUNTS AND THINGS AND THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE GOES TO A RECOUNT, AGAIN, WE COULD BE DISENFRANCHISING THE ENTIRE STATE.
AS HOWIE POINTED OUT, IF WE CAN'T GET THE CERTIFIED VOTE TO CONGRESS BY A CERTAIN DATE, WE DON'T VOTE.
>> DO WE DISENFRANCHISE UOCAVA VOTERS?
>> SOMEONE WILL SUE SOMEONE ELSE AND ADDING TO OUR LONG LIST OF LITIGATION.
>> Ted: OR YOU JUST MOVE THE DEADLINE.
WHAT IS THE GOVERNOR'S PROBLEM WITH MOVING THE DATES?
>> SO SHE DOESN'T WANT TO CHANGE THE ELECTION'S CALENDAR, CUTTING CORNERS AND I WAS TALKING TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND WHY NOT REPEAL THE LAW ALL TOGETHER?
I DON'T SEE REPUBLICANS GOING FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY PUT THE LAW INTO PLACE AND IT'S AWKWARD TO BACK OFF.
THE RECOUNT LAW.
THE COUNTIES DON'T HAVE A REFERENCE ABOUT PARTISANSHIP AND WANT IT TO BE FIXED NOW.
>> Ted: THE COUNTIES ARE ALL ON BOARD.
>> I WANT TO POINT OUT THE COUNTIES SENT A LETTER OF WARNING TO THE STATE AND LEGISLATURE IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR SAYING, THIS WILL BE A PROBLEM AND WE NEED TO FIX IT AND WE SHOULD FIX IT NOW.
HERE WE ARE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND ONE WEEK TO DEAL WITH THIS AND STILL, THEY'RE DIDDLING AROUND.
>> THEY HAVE TO INVESTIGATE THE TORN GENERAL.
DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IMPORTANT, LAURIE?
>> YES.
BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED, AND WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S LEADERSHIP AT THE STATE CAPITOL.
>> Ted: YAY OR NAY, IS THIS THE KIND OF THING AT THE LAST POSSIBLE MOMENT, NOSE TO THE WALL AND SOMETHING GETS DONE?
>> THEY HAVE TO.
THEY HAVE TO GET TWO-THIRDS TO GO INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
>> Ted: DO YOU THINK THEY'LL DO IT?
>> THEY MUST.
>> Ted: WHAT DO YOU THINK, HOWIE?
>> I HAVE A FEELING WE'LL GO PAST FEBRUARY 9th AND DO SOMETHING WHEN THEY'RE OH, YOU KNOW WHAT AND TRY TO ENACT A LAW RETROACTIVE TO FEBRUARY 9th TO CHANGE THAT.
SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL MAKE THE FEBRUARY 9th DEADLINE.
>> Ted: WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I DON'T THINK NOT UNIFORMING OUR OVERSEAS MEMBERS ARE A GOOD LOOK.
>> Ted: THEY SENT A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR SAYING AREN'T YOU SUPPOSED TO DO SOMETHING?
>> RENTAL TAX WAS A BIG ARGUMENT LAST YEAR AND REPUBLICANS SAID, NO, WE SHOULDN'T AND PENALIZING PEOPLE WHO RENT AND UNFAIR.
AND THE CITIES DON'T NEED THE REVENUE.
THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, NOT AS MUCH REVENUE AND THEY'RE UPSET AND WANT MORE MONEY.
>> Ted: WERE THEY TOLD THEY WOULD GET RETROFITTED AND WOULD THE GOVERNOR TAKE CARE OF THAT?
>> A KISS AND PROMISE THAT CAME OUT OF THE NINTH FLOOR SAYING DON'T WORRY BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR HAD VETOED A PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE BILL AND AS A PART OF SOME LARGER, GLOBAL DEAL ON EVERYTHING ELSE INCLUDING THE BUDGET, SHE REDECIDED AND DON'T WORRY, I HAVE YOUR BACK.
>> SHE SAID, LOOK, WE'LL BACK THE MONEY OR FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FIX THE MONEY OR WHAT SHE LEAD THEM TO BELIEVE AND THEN THE STATE OF THE STATE'S SPEECH AS SHE'S LAYING OUT HER SPEECH AND THE BUDGET AND THEY'RE LOOKING THROUGH IT TO FIND OUT, WELL, WHERE IS OUR CITY OF PHOENIX, $90 MILLION, MONEY THEY NEED FOR POLICE AND FIRE AND LIBRARIES.
LOOKING THROUGH THE BUDGET AND NOTHING.
AND THERE'S NOTHING SAID IN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
AND UNDERSTANDABLY UPSET.
>> TO BE FAIR ABOUT THIS, THERE ARE CITIES DO NOT HAVE A RENTAL TAX AND SOMEHOW THEY MANAGE TO SURVIVE AND FIGURED OUT WHO ELSE THEY'RE TAX.
IT'S NOT LIKE WITHOUT RENTAL TAXES, THE 92 CITIES IN ARIZONA DON'T SURVIVE.
THIS IS A POLITICALLY POPULAR TAX AMONG SOME OF THEM BECAUSE, WELL, THE RENTERS ARE NOT THE ONES TURNING OUT TO VOTE.
IF WE LOSE THE RENTAL TAX, WE'LL RAISE THE PROPERTY TAX AND ADD TWO-TENTHS ON.
THIS IS A POLITICAL PROBLEM.
>> THEY HAVE LOST SEVERAL THINGS.
THEY'VE LOST SOME OF THEIR INCOME TAX SHARING, REVENUE SHARING WITH THE STATE AS A RESULT OF THE INCOME TAX CUTS AND THE CITIES THAT HAD GROCERY TAXES, THEY LOST THOSE.
THEY WON'T GIVE UP THE MONEY AND THEY'LL RAISE TAXES ON EVERYBODY ELSE.
>> Ted: YOU HAVE A DEFICIT, CAMRYN, AND HOW DIFFICULT TO BACKFILL UNDER THOSE?
>> I DON'T KNOW THIS THE YEAR TO BACKFILL THE RENTAL TAX ISSUES AND THE MUNICIPALITIES MAY HAVE TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES.
>> WHATEVER IT IS, 450, 480, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT NEXT YEAR AND MAYBE IN '27 WE'LL GET BACK IN THE BLACK.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO FIX THE CITY'S PROBLEM ASSUMING THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.
>> I'M NOT SURE THIS LEGISLATURE HAS AN APPETITE TO CARE ABOUT THE CITY'S PROBLEMS.
THEY'RE NOT PARTICULARLY SYMPATHETIC TO CITY CONCERNS.
THEY'RE FOR CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THEY CAN LIMIT WHAT CITIES CAN DO THAN TO GIVE THEM MONEY BACK.
>> EXCEPT, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE CITIES WITHIN THEM, YOU KNOW, LET HOW SPEAKER BEN TOMA TRYING TO GET INTO CONGRESS, REPRESENTING PEORIA AND THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE ON HIM BECAUSE HE MAY BE OUTSPENT AND OUTMANEUVERED AND SAYING I NEED THE CITIES SAYING YOU'RE THE CHAMPION AND PROTECTING OUR RESIDENTS.
>> Ted: LET'S MOVE ON HERE AND LAURIE, WE'LL START WITH YOU, REPRESENTATIVE LEEZA SUN IS NO LONGER A REPRESENTATIVE.
WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT REPRESENTATIVE SUN.
>> SHE'S A FIRST-YEAR FRESHMAN THAT IN HER FIRST TERM AS A HOUSE MEMBER FROM THE WEST VALLEY, THE FAR WEST VALLEY AND PRETTY MUCH CAME IN AND A ONE-WOMAN TRAIN WRECK AND SEEMS TO THINK THAT HER ELECTION TO THE LEGISLATURE GAVE HER THE AUTHORITY TO DO THINGS LIKE OPEN INVESTIGATIONS AND MAKE THREATS AND INTERFERE IN COURT ORDERS INVOLVING CHILD CUSTODY ARRANGEMENTS.
SHE THINKS SHE AS WEIGHT TO THROW AROUND.
I THINK THE STRAW THAT BROKE HER BACK WAS WHEN SHE IN FRONT OF WITNESSES TALKED ABOUT THROWING A LOBBYIST OFF OF A BALCONY AND WASN'T KIDDING.
>> Ted: I THINK HER RESPONSE WAS, IT WASN'T REALLY A BALCONY.
>> IT WAS A BALCONIED IN AND NOT OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
>> Ted: THAT'S NOT THE STRONGEST THERE.
>> AND SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T MAKE THAT THREAT.
SHE JUST THREATENED TO BEE SLAP.
AND THAT MAKES IT OK. >> Ted: THIS RESIGNATION CAME BEFORE THE EXPULSION WAS COMING DOWN THE TRACK.
>> WHICH LEAD TO US TALKING ABOUT, WELL, DID SHE JUMP OR WAS SHE PUSHED?
>> Ted: OH, GOODNESS.
>> BUT HER FELLOW DEMOCRATS DIDN'T WANT HER THERE AND WE CAN FIND ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS TO BE BETTER.
>> Ted: THE LAST OF REPRESENTATIVE SUN IN POLITICS?
>> I THINK SO.
MAYBE A CITY COUNCIL POST IN THE WEST VALLEY.
>> ISN'T SHE RUNNING FOR THE STATE SENATE?
>> YOU SAY I'M AN INCUMBENT TRYING TO GO TO THE SENATE.
>> VOTE FOR ME OUR I'LL THROW YOUR BACK END OFF THE BALCONY.
>> I'VE HEARD WORSE.
>> Ted: WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED PRAGERU AND TOM HORNE, HE LIKES THIS IDEA AND IS IT A FOR-PROFIT.
>> A NONPROFIT.
>> Ted: A NONPROFIT, OK. >> A NONPROFIT STARTED BY THE FAMOUS TALK SHOW HOST, DENNIS PRAGER KNOWN FOR SAYING OUTLANDISH THINGS AND CRITICIZED FOR THINGS LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE, GAY RIGHTS AND A FAMOUS QUOTE WHERE THIS CARTOON CHARACTER OF COLUMBUS IS TALKING TO SOME KIDS AND HE SAYS, SLAVERY IS NOT THAT BAD IN A WEIRD ACCENT.
BASICALLY, SUPERINTENDENT TOM HORNE, WHO IS A REPUBLICAN, ANNOUNCED A PARTNERSHIP AND THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF ARIZONA'S WEBSITE WILL LINK TO THEIR VIDEOS, THEIR EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS.
IT'S NOT ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT, BUT IT SENDS A SIGNAL AND SOMETHING A FEW OTHER STATES HAVE DONE AND LIKE FLORIDA AND OKLAHOMA.
>> Ted: SO THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THIS BE TAUGHT IN CLASSROOMS AND THERE IF YOU WANT IT.
>> LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS DECIDE WHAT'S TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS, NOT TOM HORNE, THANK GOODNESS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THESE VIDEOS, IT'S A TOTAL WHITE-WASH OF HISTORY.
THERE'S ONE THAT IS CALLED SOMETHING LIKE, "SO HEY, KIDS, YOUR PILOT WAS UNDER DEI, DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION" AND IT'S NOT THE GUY THAT CAN FLY THE PLANE BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE THE SOMEHOW DIVERSE.
>> WHAT THEY'VE TAKEN FOR THOSE THAT WATCHED THE LITTLE EINSTEINS ON CHANNEL 8, WHERE THE KIDS WOULD LISTEN TO HISTORIC FIGURES, THEY TAKE A LITTLE LICENSE AND AGAIN, WHAT CAMRYN WAS TALKING ABOUT.
SLAVERY WAS BAD BUT BETTER THAN BEING KILLED BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE WERE CANNIBALS.
WE'RE NOT CANNIBALS IN EUROPE AND NEVER MIND, WE WERE DEPORTING THE JEWS IN 1942.
I ASKED THE HEAD OF THE UNIVERSITY, THE FOUNDER, AND WHERE DO YOU HAVE THE HISTORICAL BASIS TO DECIDE CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS WOULD HAVE SAID SLAVERY IS BETTER THAN DEATH?
WELL, WE WOULD HAVE SAID THAT.
IT'S FINE FOR A HOLLYWOOD MOVIE BUT NOT A CLASSROOM.
>> AND PUTTING IT ON A WEBSITE AND WE'RE SAYING WE THINK THIS IS GOOD EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL.
>> Ted: IS IT THAT BIG WHEN YOU PUT IT ON A WEBSITE AND EDUCATORS COMPLETELY IGNORE IT?
>> I DON'T KNOW THIS WILL.
SO IT COULD BE A PUBLIC TEACHER, PRIVATE SCHOOL, CHARTER SCHOOL, HOME SCHOOL.
THOSE VIDEOS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE AND I ASKED AND THOUGH PARENTS CAN ACCESS THAT, RIGHT?
YES.
TOM HORNE WAS SAYING I THINK THIS IS GOOD, A GOOD REMEDY TO THE MARXIST LIBERATION OF OUR KIDS.
>> THAT'S THE KEY AND THE WOKE'S TEACHERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO WHILE HE CAN'T FORCE SCHOOL BOARDS TO DO SOMETHING, HIS DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION HAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF OVERSIGHT OF SCHOOLS AND STIRRING UP THE PARENTS TO SAY, LOOK -- >> Ted: THEY'LL CALL THAT HOTLINE.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT ALL OF THAT MARXIST BEHAVIOR AND HIRED AN INVESTIGATOR TO INVESTIGATE THESE TIPS THAT CAME IN AND GOT LIKE 15,000 CRANK CALLS, A HANDFUL OF CASES THAT WERE NEVER INVESTIGATED BECAUSE HE SAID, WELL, WE DON'T INVESTIGATE THESE THINGS AND TAKE THE CALLS.
NOT ONE SINGLE COMPLAINT WAS EVER VERIFIED OF ALL OF THIS BEHAVIOR FROM HIS HOTLINE.
>> THAT'S HOW TAX MONEY IS SPENT.
Mr. HORNE MAY BE LOOKING AT THE 2026 REELECTION OR RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR IN '26.
>> Ted: ABE HAMMADEH IS TELLING BLAKE MASTERS TO GET OUT OF THE RACE.
>> INFLATING THE NUMBERS AND BESIDES THAT, HE DOESN'T LIVE IN THE DISTRICT, EXCEPT, ABE HAMMADEH DID THE SAME THING AND ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED HIS NUMBERS.
>> Ted: THAT'S WHERE WE'LL END IT.
THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
I'M TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
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